Hello, long time WFS owner, first time poster on this site.
Ever since I've owned the Wildfire, I've been rather perplexed by the music it gives me. The sound quality itself seems decent, but the controls are... odd. Almost every time I press play the music starts, then after around 3 seconds there's a notable pause, before it starts up again. It's not a big deal, but it makes me wonder whether this is a normal thing on this handheld, or if it's a problem with the SD card I'm using. I managed to get a 32GB class 10 micro SD on sale, so I hope nothing's wrong with it. It doesn't seem to miss-handle any other files I put on it (except for some pictures that turn all black sometimes...)
I tried to use some alternatives like Player Pro or Power Amp, but these actually made the problem far worse or introduced all sorts of new bugs. On P.P. instead of a gap of silence at 3 seconds I get this high-pitched screech. Once the music starts playing it's OK, it doesn't do it at the beginning of every song, just occasionally (and certainly more often than I would like) when I hit the play button and start the music. Another thing both P.P. and P.A. suffer from is buggy lock screens and buggy screen rotations. I remember both crashing a lot while music was playing when all I would do is turn the phone on it's side.
Has anyone else noticed problems like this?
Philippe Lemay said:
Hello, long time WFS owner, first time poster on this site.
Ever since I've owned the Wildfire, I've been rather perplexed by the music it gives me. The sound quality itself seems decent, but the controls are... odd. Almost every time I press play the music starts, then after around 3 seconds there's a notable pause, before it starts up again. It's not a big deal, but it makes me wonder whether this is a normal thing on this handheld, or if it's a problem with the SD card I'm using. I managed to get a 32GB class 10 micro SD on sale, so I hope nothing's wrong with it. It doesn't seem to miss-handle any other files I put on it (except for some pictures that turn all black sometimes...)
I tried to use some alternatives like Player Pro or Power Amp, but these actually made the problem far worse or introduced all sorts of new bugs. On P.P. instead of a gap of silence at 3 seconds I get this high-pitched screech. Once the music starts playing it's OK, it doesn't do it at the beginning of every song, just occasionally (and certainly more often than I would like) when I hit the play button and start the music. Another thing both P.P. and P.A. suffer from is buggy lock screens and buggy screen rotations. I remember both crashing a lot while music was playing when all I would do is turn the phone on it's side.
Has anyone else noticed problems like this?
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I have no problem with any music player,it must be something wrong with your card.I still use the 2 GB stock card.For the best sound quality use PowerAMP,much better than stock player.And also better headset would be recomended.
i use poweramp and have no problems.
also, if you change the settings to "no fading" under the audio engine settings, change buffer size to "huge(+750ms)", and keep audio priority at "+2", you can get gapless playback on standard mp3 files most of the time....occassionally you'll still get that slight blip between tracks, but it's way better than anything else i've tried without having to re-rip everything to a totally different format. (p.s. don't set it to "crossfade" or "cut silence", as i've found this makes it worse for some reason).
i used to hear what i think you're describing as a "screech" sound, i think it sounds more like you can hear the processor working between loading songs or something, but to be honest, i only ever heard it between really quiet song endings/beginnings and only on the stock headset,while listening in my totally silent room, at night...
currently using a cheap-as-chips smartphone headset adapter/mic connected to my KOSS pathfinder "plug" style headphones, using the EQ settings of PowerAmp, and it sounds amazing. The headphones bock out all outside noise, and give plenty of bass and still great mids and highs. to be honest, this is the best setup i've heard on a phone, if you need somethign better, you'd have to get a standalone mp3 player (and this sounds better than most of those, without going for somethign that's speficically designed for high quality audio, as opposed to some cheap and cheerful generic mp3).
No, it's not usual, you should uninstall your player and maybe download another one, if all your mp3 files have this problem then it mustn't be the music files.
And Set your phone back to factory spec is the last choice
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also, if you change the settings to "no fading" under the audio engine settings, change buffer size to "huge(+750ms)", and keep audio priority at "+2", you can get gapless playback on standard mp3 files most of the time....occassionally you'll still get that slight blip between tracks, but it's way better than anything else i've tried without having to re-rip everything to a totally different format. (p.s. don't set it to "crossfade" or "cut silence", as i've found this makes it worse for some reason).
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It's not really a gap problem, and I personally like gaps between my songs. I often listen to songs on shuffle and it can be a little distracting when it seamlessly switches from soft classical to System of a Down rocking hard, lol. But yeah, it's really: The song starts, enough of it playing that I can recognize which song it is, awkward 2-3 second pause of absolute silence, then it picks up again. Not every time I start enough, but it does it enough for me to consider it a recurring problem.
All I can do is go buy a new micro-SD card I guess... I lent the stock 2 GB one that came with the device to a friend, so I can't exactly use that. I swear, all these bugs, combined with the fact that this thing seems impossible to Root (I have a GSM model) makes me sorely tempted to crawl back to iOS for my next model. I just with the iPhones didn't have such puny screens...
My old wfs use to do the same thing, play music for 10 secounds or so and then stop, idk why it did that but that phone was a problem, everytime I hung up from a call the screen would turn off for 3 mins everytime and the touch screen never works, so some phones do it and dont...but I got a new one and I love it Works great
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There are several threads now detailing a problem with playing music, mainly reported when using the Google Music app. To be more specific here are some examples:
When playing music and then multitasking, the phone crashes and requires a battery pull and reboot.
Another is when playing music and then turning the screen off, the music is jerky and stutters.
People have reported this happening with apps other than Google Music, so it would appear that this isn't a problem with the Music app, but either the phone or ICS.
I wanted to start a poll to gauge how many people have this problem and establish whether it's everyone or not.
Here are some links to what I'm referring to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381413
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380773
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1379600
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22669
Your poll is a bit flawed. My experience so far is that these crashes are a bit more random than being attributed to any specific apps right now. I've experienced the crash, but long story short, I am not convinced it was related to the exact app that I was using at the time.
Well just because you have experienced an unrelated crash it doesn't mean my poll is flawed, just that you have a separate issue
People have spoken of this happening repeatedly when trying to use Music and multitask so I think it is definitely an issue of it's own. Usually it is said that the sound/screen goes corrupt and then requires a battery pull. Are you not referring to a random reboot or something?
i have a couple of problems with PowerAmp, no problems with google music though.
1. PowerAmp can't see playlists that were created in google music
2. PowerAmp stutters when the screen goes to sleep. (does the clock speed lower when the screen goes off?)
i've read that increasing the buffer size in poweramp options fixes no. 2. I havent tried it due to no.1.
i'm just using google music at the moment.
WinAmp i found would often have slight cracks in the music (i.e. stop and start again quickly, almost like it was being disturbed/cpu high).
doubletwist is fine though, as is Music player
This is such a huge problem I can't believe more people haven't responded :S
I've had Google Music, Rhapsody, and Pandora all crash at one time or another.
str355 said:
i have a couple of problems with PowerAmp, no problems with google music though.
1. PowerAmp can't see playlists that were created in google music
2. PowerAmp stutters when the screen goes to sleep. (does the clock speed lower when the screen goes off?)
i've read that increasing the buffer size in poweramp options fixes no. 2. I havent tried it due to no.1.
i'm just using google music at the moment.
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increasing the buffer size in power amp fixes no.2
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problem number 2 here for me. songs with high bit rates tends to trigger the stutter problem after the phone goes to sleep. tried on google music and playerpro
Google Music 4.0.1 (ICS stock) often crashes within a minute after I reboot the phone - without me actually using it.
Obviously it's trying to do something in the background on start-up and fails. Miserably.
Did not crash while I was using it so far, but I didn't run it for any lengths of time either. No problems with other apps crashing, just Music.
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problem number 2 here for me. songs with high bit rates tends to trigger the stutter problem after the phone goes to sleep. tried on google music and playerpro
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Yes I notice it too, it's very annoying especially since I payed so much for this phone and a good set of headphones just for my high bit-rate music to constantly stutter; hopefully google fixes this. I seem to only notice this on the stock music player, but I prefer to use it over others due to its integration with the lockscreen and notification pulldown bar, especially considering the nice visuals it now has.
my 2 cents:
i can recreate the crash consistently by doing the following:
1. reboot the phone and connect a pair of headphones
2. stream a song (i.e., a song that's not already saved to the phone) using google music
3. use the home button to leave the google music app and return to the homescreen
4. while the song is playing, try to increase or decrease the volume of the music with the volume buttons and then almost immediately the phone reboots automatically.
i haven't been able to recreate the issue once with the headphones disconnected. also, the issue doesn't seem to occur if you connect the headphones after you start playing the music. i need to test that theory some more though.
I noticed this right away when I got my phone (launch day)
Since I constantly stream music from google music, I noticed pops and weird noises all the time. Very weird and SUPER annoying
The stock music app is not able to find my music at all. I use PowerAMP now and that works fine.
Music also crashes when not actively in use at all. When I open a lot of apps, i.e. multi-task a lot, Music often just force closes after a while.
I'm using PowerAmp now to listen to music stored in either .flac or the highest quality .mp3 files lame could produce. Some are 320kbps cbr others are vbr. In PowerAmp I set the process to the highest priority possible but left the buffer on auto.
I have never had any reboots or studering when locking the screen and I've been listening to music for over 3 hours now while doing some home work. Just to test it I put on one of my flac files and quickly locked and unlocked the screen. The phone took it like and champ with no studers at all.
No problems with music apps crashing, or needing to pull the battery. The only issue I have is with music or podcasts played through the native music player or Google Listen stopping at random intervals. Happens using wired speaker/headphones or bluetooth audio.
Frustrating, but not a dealbreaker yet.
I called Verizon for no other reason other than trying to create a record of the issue... They claimed to have not heard of this... Is there any way to let Samsung know directly? I know there is a google code ticket open, but Google hasn't "owned" the issue yet... I'd also say if you have the issue to let VZW know so they can get things in motion on their side as well.
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I called Verizon for no other reason other than trying to create a record of the issue... They claimed to have not heard of this... Is there any way to let Samsung know directly? I know there is a google code ticket open, but Google hasn't "owned" the issue yet... I'd also say if you have the issue to let VZW know so they can get things in motion on their side as well.
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It seems they don't give a ****, unfortunately. Just have to live with it..
WinAMP - today while playing an album with the screen off paused (twice). I had to turn on the display, and hit the play button to continue. There was a bit of a lag (I got the FC screen, but when i hit wait the app returned a few seconds later)
Loving my Galaxy Note 2, but I do have a few minor niggles regarding the stock Music Player that I'm hoping someone may be able to help with. I'm on stock firmware btw.
#1 Headphone play button often does not respond if left in pause mode for over a few minutes.
Allow me to explain - I'm at my desk at work listening to music with the stock music program. I get a phone call on my work phone so I click the headset button to pause the music. I finish my call and press the headset button to resume music. No response. Sometimes if I click once, twice or three times more it will start playing again. It's like the phone enters a sleep mode that won't respond straight away.
#2 Music EQ gets lost when something else happens on the phone.
For example, if I unplug my headphones to go for a walk to another part of the office. I return moments later, plug my headphones back in but the EQ is all messed up. Almost sounds like you’re in a tunnel. If I click the EQ button it immediately reverts to the correct EQ setting. This can also be simulated on demand by having music playing, swipe your hand over the screen to take a screenshot (music fades out, there is a camera click sound), then when the music fades back in it has gone into that tunnel EQ sound. Again, clicking the EQ button sorts the issue out.
I have considered moving to a different music program instead. I've tried Google Music (which has it's own bugs like album art disappearing), Winamp etc but for some reason the stock player's EQ settings (custom extended with Bass on 2, and Clarity on 1) make my Sony headphones respond far better than the EQ's in the other programs. And you can put a spot of reverb on the music as well which sounds ace.
No one else has these problems? Does no one use the Note 2 for music listening?
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No one else has these problems? Does no one use the Note 2 for music listening?
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I have had some issues with my Note 2 also. Coming from Htc One XL with beats audio which some people don't like, however I did. Whenever I plug my headphones in the sound quality is just not as good but compared to HTC output sound is so much better.
Ive tried Original settings with phone plus added beats mods, but neither are producing same I quality I had with HTC phone, which is a pain as I do listen to music regularly on my phone. Not sure if makes big difference but thought I'd better mention I'm using in ear phones not headphones.
similar issue here.. sometimes the headset next/pause button works.. sometimes it doenst.. looks like once the phone sleeps it doesnt want to respond .. but response if i wake up ,, which is just stupid.
Hi,
most of the time, I'm using my phone for listening to music, and since I own Galaxy S4 Mini (GT-I9195), I'm thinking about throwing my 320€ worth smartphone in trash. Mostly I'm listening to rock music where basses are very important. When I was using stock firmware, everytime I increased the bass level, the music volume diminished. It came so far, that when I was traveling from work to home by bus, I could hear what people around me were talking to, even though my volume level was on 100%. Then I somehow increased the volume of my phone (I found a thread how to do that here on xda), but then the next problem became annoying. Almost every time I skipped the song, the equalizer settings went back to default. So every time i had to press menu button --> settings --> equalizer, and then basses went back to normal. Sometimes equalizer doesn't work at all, until I reboot my phone.
So I tried with Cyanogenmod today, and I'm even more disappointed with music quality. Every time I try to turn on bass boost, the music starts to crackle, even though bass level is only on slight. I'm using 120€ worth Sony headphones, which work great on any other device, so the problem definitely isn't in headphones.
Does anyone deal with the same problem? I just don't know what to do anymore ...
Thanks in advance & sorry for bad English.
m_010411 said:
Hi,
most of the time, I'm using my phone for listening to music, and since I own Galaxy S4 Mini (GT-I9195), I'm thinking about throwing my 320€ worth smartphone in trash. Mostly I'm listening to rock music where basses are very important. When I was using stock firmware, everytime I increased the bass level, the music volume diminished. It came so far, that when I was traveling from work to home by bus, I could hear what people around me were talking to, even though my volume level was on 100%. Then I somehow increased the volume of my phone (I found a thread how to do that here on xda), but then the next problem became annoying. Almost every time I skipped the song, the equalizer settings went back to default. So every time i had to press menu button --> settings --> equalizer, and then basses went back to normal. Sometimes equalizer doesn't work at all, until I reboot my phone.
So I tried with Cyanogenmod today, and I'm even more disappointed with music quality. Every time I try to turn on bass boost, the music starts to crackle, even though bass level is only on slight. I'm using 120€ worth Sony headphones, which work great on any other device, so the problem definitely isn't in headphones.
Does anyone deal with the same problem? I just don't know what to do anymore ...
Thanks in advance & sorry for bad English.
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Hello there.
First off, if you are going to throw S4 mini into trash, you can instead send it to me and I'll pay for the delivery, as I simply love the phone.
Secondly, I think the problem is you and not the phone. I have S4 mini and I love listening to music. As anyone who loves music (proffesionaly or unproffesionaly) knows, basses ARE NOT THE ONLY (and most) important thing, even in rock music. And as far as basses goes S4 mini does a very good job, as it does in other spectrums of music playback. The volume decreases a bit if you set it to bass, because the equalizer decreases the treble value, thus you get the perception of decreased laudnes. Although I would recommend you get your hearing checked, as the laudness of S4 mini seems to be laud enough for others.
If you really like to listen to high quality music and are a true audiophile, than you wouln't be listening to the music on S4 mini on the first place, but would go for a high quality professional grade mp3 (or FLAC) player with an external amplifier.
Therefore I conclude that you are just a bass freak who wants to complain, but please feel free to prove me wrong.
My opinion and advice may not matter since I don't own a s4 mini (would love to have it)
But did you tried sound alive from Samsung?
Just increase the bass and some clarity then reverb and room size (if you like) then the bass is on a good level, wanting more bass than that would only get in the way of the guitars part!!
Or try viper4android if you're on a desperate situation...
Can I ask something here?? Is the smart volume feature any good??
@Shiningb
Firstly, thanks for your answer. I realized that everything works perfectly with stock Samsung Music app (which doesn't use build-in equalizer, but uses it's own one). The quality of sound is really great.
Only problem is that I prefer Google Play Music which is much clearer, easyer to navigate and overall has nicer interface. But there I deal with equalizer problem; the sound is great at the moment, the equalizer is set the way I want, basses are great, but then suddenly (without particual reason) equalizer just goes flat and the volume increases for about 30% rapidly which is a great way to go deaf. Then I have to restart equalizer app, and it starts working normally again for about next 10 minutes. Until I won't find the solution, I have to use stock music app, ok, i can get along with this
I googled about the issue and I found that it is quite common with S4 users. I heard about ViPER4Android today, and I'm going to try it right now, thaniks for your advice !
And sorry, I don't know if smart volume feature works good, I use mp3gain app on my PC which equalizes volumes of all tracks on the same level and works perfectly.
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@Shiningb
Firstly, thanks for your answer. I realized that everything works perfectly with stock Samsung Music app (which doesn't use build-in equalizer, but uses it's own one). The quality of sound is really great.
Only problem is that I prefer Google Play Music which is much clearer, easyer to navigate and overall has nicer interface. But there I deal with equalizer problem; the sound is great at the moment, the equalizer is set the way I want, basses are great, but then suddenly (without particual reason) equalizer just goes flat and the volume increases for about 30% rapidly which is a great way to go deaf. Then I have to restart equalizer app, and it starts working normally again for about next 10 minutes. Until I won't find the solution, I have to use stock music app, ok, i can get along with this
I googled about the issue and I found that it is quite common with S4 users. I heard about ViPER4Android today, and I'm going to try it right now, thaniks for your advice !
And sorry, I don't know if smart volume feature works good, I use mp3gain app on my PC which equalizes volumes of all tracks on the same level and works perfectly.
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This happens with equalizer because the system kills it from the ram
So a great solution is to use viper...
But you need root and put the apk of viper into system/app set permissions to rw-r-r
Like this it won't be killed, because it will make part of the system app
By the way what kind of music do you hear??
I'm a sound freak with viper, I tunr things like crazy until I reach the perfect sound (for a time!)
I really wanted to know how the smart volume works since the I9070 won't have a official 4.2.2 update :'(
Thanks for fast answer.
I installed ViPER4Android, but everything I try to change, doesn't have any effect on sound. I don't know what is wrong ...
Could you help me with Viper? I know how to put a file in system/app and set permissions.
My phone is rooted I'm using CWM and stock android from Samsung.
My favorite artists are 30 Seconds to Mars, Billy Idol, Bring me the Horizon, Foo Fighters, HIM, Kings of Leon, Oasis, RHCP, etc.
Sry, probably really won't. I owned I9000 before I9195 and it was the best phone i ever had, even better with Cyanogenmod
Is anyone else having an issue getting this to work? I have it enabled but it's not showing in anything on the ambient screen or when the phones unlocked. Tried playing popular songs off Spotify.
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Is anyone else having an issue getting this to work? I have it enabled but it's not showing in anything on the ambient screen or when the phones unlocked. Tried playing popular songs off Spotify.
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Doesn't seem to work if it's the phone playing the music. Needs to be external. Works great when playing music in my truck
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i dont even show the option to turn it on. I know its in sound>advanced underneath emergency broadcast. But not there
works for me... but it's slow to respond. from one song to another i noticed it took about half the new song before the old song disappeared and the new song reappeared on the screen
i've disabled this feature. for (paranoid) me, the security concerns of an always listening mic combined with the lackluster response of the feature itself, and the fact that i can use soundhound to determine the songs i want to know (which isn't every single song that is playing) make it not a worth while feature to utilize. it's nifty, but not worthwhile imho.
works fine for me.
here is some explanation about how it works...
https://www.androidcentral.com/heres-full-breakdown-google-pixel-2s-now-playing-feature
Works OK for me, but it takes at least 30 seconds to recognize songs. I was playing the music on a different device.
I've been experience a few issues with the new update. One of them, which is more a nuisance than anything, is my bluetooth connection to my car. It's a 2015 Mustang with MyFord Touch. The phone is a galaxy S8+. About 1/3 of the time when I start the car, the phone shows up named a bunch of random characters, instead of Galaxy S8+. Not a huge deal. My music player starts automatically (even if I close it, and kill the process). The thing that's weird is that the audio is kind of hollow sounding when it starts up UNTIL I turn on the phones display, then it kicks into a fuller sound. It's never done this before. Not only that, but it decides when it wants to display track information from Samsung music player only a small portion of the time.
If I'm playing music through Amazon Music, it updates the track information, no problem. If I switch to Samsung's music player, it just displays the last track I played on Amazon music, and never changes. If I start the car with the music player going, it won't update track information until it gets to the next song, and even that is spotty.
Aside from these issues, and the issues I'm having with the default browser, I think it's a pretty good update. But this music thing is really bugging me. For the record, I've tried rebooting the phone. I've tried changing through the AVRCP versions in the developer options, I've toggled Dolby Atmos on and off, changed the sample rate, channels, etc. Nothing seems to be affecting this problem.
On a side note, how do I close the music player so it doesn't automatically start playing when connected to bluetooth?
Thanks in advance. If this doesn't belong here, let me know.
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I've been experience a few issues with the new update. One of them, which is more a nuisance than anything, is my bluetooth connection to my car. It's a 2015 Mustang with MyFord Touch. The phone is a galaxy S8+. About 1/3 of the time when I start the car, the phone shows up named a bunch of random characters, instead of Galaxy S8+. Not a huge deal. My music player starts automatically (even if I close it, and kill the process). The thing that's weird is that the audio is kind of hollow sounding when it starts up UNTIL I turn on the phones display, then it kicks into a fuller sound. It's never done this before. Not only that, but it decides when it wants to display track information from Samsung music player only a small portion of the time.
If I'm playing music through Amazon Music, it updates the track information, no problem. If I switch to Samsung's music player, it just displays the last track I played on Amazon music, and never changes. If I start the car with the music player going, it won't update track information until it gets to the next song, and even that is spotty.
Aside from these issues, and the issues I'm having with the default browser, I think it's a pretty good update. But this music thing is really bugging me. For the record, I've tried rebooting the phone. I've tried changing through the AVRCP versions in the developer options, I've toggled Dolby Atmos on and off, changed the sample rate, channels, etc. Nothing seems to be affecting this problem.
On a side note, how do I close the music player so it doesn't automatically start playing when connected to bluetooth?
Thanks in advance. If this doesn't belong here, let me know.
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Did you ever try to update your car's firmware or going to your dealer and ask for it? I think it's because Android 9 is "too new" for your car
I updated to the latest firmware about 6 months ago. No new updates since then. It would be kinda bogus if android 9 made a 4 year old car obsolete, but i suppose it's possible.
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I updated to the latest firmware about 6 months ago. No new updates since then. It would be kinda bogus if android 9 made a 4 year old car obsolete, but i suppose it's possible.
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It could be possible that you have to expect for a new car firmware or ask to your device forum if anyone else have your same problem with android auto
Good call. I'll pop the question over to my mustang forum. Thanks.
DarcSystems said:
Good call. I'll pop the question over to my mustang forum. Thanks.
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Post it on your mobile device forum too