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Slimkat Won't Turn On After Reboot

Slimkat won't turn on after reboot
I was running latest Slimkat (8/28) and rebooted the phone using the reboot menu option from holding the power button. It was plugged into a charger at the time.
A while later I noticed it still wasn't on. I tried pressing buttons, holding the power button for 30 sec., etc. The phone was a little warm before I did the reboot, not sure if that is part of the issue.
Has anyone had their phone unable to be turned on after a reboot? Any solutions?
Thanks in advance.
I can't post in the development forums yet, so forgive me if this post is in the wrong place.

A "little warm" during usage (watching videos / gaming) or charging is not unusual.
If you're using something like a TPU case, the heat from the back of the phone can't esacpe that quickly...
Running SlimKat for a week now, several reboots and complete power off. No problems.
What was your battery percentage when you started charging / at the time of the reboot?
Does it show the "charger icon" / battery percentage when you plug in the charger now or is there no reaction at all?
Discussions about custom ROM related issues are supposed to be in "General" or "Q&A / Help", so you chose the right place. (The development forum is meant for actual DEV material only)

Bingo Bronson said:
A "little warm" during usage (watching videos / gaming) or charging is not unusual.
If you're using something like a TPU case, the heat from the back of the phone can't esacpe that quickly...
Running SlimKat for a week now, several reboots and complete power off. No problems.
What was your battery percentage when you started charging / at the time of the reboot?
Does it show the "charger icon" / battery percentage when you plug in the charger now or is there no reaction at all?
Discussions about custom ROM related issues are supposed to be in "General" or "Q&A / Help", so you chose the right place. (The development forum is meant for actual DEV material only)
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Thanks for the reply.
The phone is unresponsive when plugged into a charger. No battery logo, doesn't seem to be charging (no heat).
I just tried plugging it into my Windows PC, and device manager is saying:
"A request for the USB device descriptor failed."
No response plugging it into a mac.

timosaur said:
The phone is unresponsive when plugged into a charger. No battery logo, doesn't seem to be charging (no heat).
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Yikes. Faulty hardware, worst case scenario? But from what you described, quite likely...
Did you buy it from one of the big Ebay deals or directly from Amazon? I think it's time to contact "them".

Bingo Bronson said:
Yikes. Faulty hardware, worst case scenario? But from what you described, quite likely...
Did you buy it from one of the big Ebay deals or directly from Amazon? I think it's time to contact "them".
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????????? The phone seems to have come back to life, after trying random chargers. The current charger started charging after maybe 30 minutes of no response.
The battery is charging from 0%. I know when the problem occurred yesterday, battery was nowhere close to 0. So the battery had to drain and reset somehow.
Thanks for all the help. I did buy from Amazon, and I'm within my return period... still on the fence if I should return or not.

timosaur said:
The phone seems to have come back to life, after trying random chargers.
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Can you check the Amazon charger with a multimeter? Maybe he's responsible...
Let's see if it charges properly and also how fast the battery drains afterwards.

Bingo Bronson said:
Can you check the Amazon charger with a multimeter? Maybe he's responsible...
Let's see if it charges properly and also how fast the battery drains afterwards.
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I was using a third party charger, I'll check when I get the chance. Not sure how to measure those tiny pins

timosaur said:
I was using a third party charger, I'll check when I get the chance. Not sure how to measure those tiny pins
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I had to go back to stock charger when running slimkat.
Bingo gave me something to think about though. How well do these phones handle high temps/how well do they cool down? I can count on one hand how many random reboots I've had. Strangely it hasn't occurred when playing high res video. But my case, which I really like, provides little to no ventilation (glass on front and back, plastic wrapped with thick rubber on the side). I'm reluctantly going to ask--should I find a case that at least opens up the back?
I'm having no issues aside from common bugs with the custom Roms. But I don't want to slowly cook this thing either. Anyone know about the heat sink we have?

timosaur said:
I'll check when I get the chance. Not sure how to measure those tiny pins
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That's just me being nosy ^^ You could measure it directly from the USB port of the charger (the outer pins).
KLit75 said:
How well do these phones handle high temps/how well do they cool down? [...] But I don't want to slowly cook this thing either. Anyone know about the heat sink we have?
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I remember that case, KLit75, I believe it was from the "clunky tank" series. The Snapdragon 800 starts throttling around 145.4 °F, iirc.
A case like this slows down the cool down process, no doubt, but a "naked" phone can get just as hot on the inside.
I guess there's a small advantage with a naked phone as long as the surrounding temperature is low enough to make a real difference and keeping it a bit cooler in the long run.
My default settings keep the CPU around 82 - 88 °F for things like browsing, maximum was 113 °F when playing videos for a longer time with MX Player (HW+ codec setting).
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Heat sink, M'Lady?
I think I will remove the back cover, rip out the NFC connector, apply some copper foil and drill some holes in the back (Homer Simpson style) for elite cooling results. :laugh:

@Bingo Bronson, above and beyond with the info! Many Thanks!!!

Follow up on CPU settings: (since this thread is getting slightly off the track already ^^)
Since we have to use the voltages (see pic below) provided by the Kernel, I guess I don't save much battery life with these settings, less heat most likely, since the max. freq. is limited the whole time and the Governor scales down faster.
But then, there's also this:
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Please don't confuse voltage with current.
The voltage at which a part runs does not equal power. Power (Watts) = V (voltage) x I (current).
Low voltage threshold processes are used for high performance and high voltage threshold processes are used for low power.
LVT processes have higher leakage and consume more power, not less than the HVT process.
You can draw no conclusion based on the operating voltage, except that the HPM will potentially have higher leakage and therefor a possible higher current draw with all things being equal. It also has a higher clock frequency potential.
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Keeping the input boost freq. low may have a little impact on battery life when you have a lot of interaction with the screen, as in "much tapping ➜ much boost ➜ much CPU".
Even with the currently lowered settings, I get "only" 3 days battery life with mobile data enabled.
I will lower my max. freq. to the same as input boost freq., both set to 960 MHz @ 800 mV and see how it goes (with the CPU set this low, it might be even worse since it needs more time to compute a task ^^)
Yes, I'm aware that these settings only qualify for basic phone & messaging usage.

Bingo Bronson said:
That's just me being nosy ^^ You could measure it directly from the USB port of the charger (the outer pins).
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Haha the charger that caused the issue is one of those direct to microusb chargers.. the ones without a USB port. Never trusting one of those again.
Bingo Bronson said:
I will lower my max. freq. to the same as input boost freq., both set to 960 MHz @ 800 mV and see how it goes (with the CPU set this low, it might be even worse since it needs more time to compute a task ^^)
Yes, I'm aware that these settings only qualify for basic phone & messaging usage.
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How did the 960 go? I've been running at a 1.5Ghz max and I've been happy with it running over a day. I can't find input boost in the app I'm using but would that explain why the CPU jumps over 1.5 sometimes?

timosaur said:
Haha the charger that caused the issue is one of those direct to microusb chargers.. the ones without a USB port. Never trusting one of those again.
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Yep, had a similar experience with one for my Raspberry Pi 2. It worked for ~ 3 hours, then the Pi didn't boot up. I bought a "good" charger with 5V / 2.4A, turns out he delivered 4,5x volts at best, s#it happens sometimes...
How did the 960 go? I've been running at a 1.5Ghz max and I've been happy with it running over a day...
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It's decent, right now 46% charge left since unplug, I had multiple longer calls yesterday and some more than ususal texting, needed to take some phots with flash...
Performance is enough for basic tasks. The "multicore power saving" is another thing...
I wonder if it uses less voltage, I guess the voltage indications are meant for "all cores active" but how much lower is the voltage with only 1 core active, if at all...
I can't find input boost in the app I'm using but would that explain why the CPU jumps over 1.5 sometimes?
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Yes, that explains it.
Input boost is usually set to max. freq. so that the CPU goes "full throttle" everytime the screen is tapped (for that fluid Android experience ^^).
Limiting it may have (some) benefits for "heavy tapping" users.
Side note: I flashed the SlimKat v2015/09/15 build at 95% charge.
Side side note: I started using the 960 MHz setting at around 78% charge.

The Cubot Dinosaur is announced! 4150mAh battery, 3GB RAM, Android 6.0!

Check out Alberto's review of it here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67482521&postcount=12
http://www.cubot.net/smartphones/dinosaur/
Cubot's new phone, the Cubot dinosaur will offer a jurassic experience. They want to solve the biggest issues we experience in cell phones today, namely battery life, performance, and the footprint of the phone. This phone will be 8.8mm thick while packing a 4150mAh battery, and Cubot hasn't been known to lie about their battery capacity. THey are also putting in 3GB of RAM that should help with performance, but are using the MTK6735? Which is a little strange, but hopefully the 3GB of RAM can make up for not using a Helio X10. It also comes with Android 6.0 Marshmallow, which is an extremely nice surprise from a chinese manufacturer, as they are generally released with Lollipop.
Full Specs:
MT6735A 1.3Ghz CPU
3gb RAM, 16gb ROM
Android 6.0
4150 mAh battery
5.5" 720 IPS Screen
MicroSD support
13MP (interpolated) / 5MP Front Camera
4G LTE
Dual SIM
USB OTG
8.8mm Thick

when can i buy it?

PetaX8 said:
when can i buy it?
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I think it's on presale right now but I believe by the end of april.

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CUBOT Dinosaur confirmed specs:
4150mAh high-density (650 Wh/L) battery, 3GB RAM, 16GB ROM, Android 6.0, 13MP Rear Camera with f2.0 aperture, 185g.
Dinosaur pre-sale started from April 26th, offering a nice surprise pack with many useful accessories.
http://www.cubot.net/dinosaur-pre-sale/

Ordered at Tinydeal

I'm just sad it doesn't get 3G in Canada.

Is there anyone here who already got the device?
Mine has been shipped, but it will take a while to arrive. (no express courier)

Hi.
Yes, i got one and i'm writting a review.
for now, i have some trouble trying to root the device.
if anyone can give me a tip for rooting, i will appreciate.

Will it have Adoptable Storage enabled?

got this device had it for few days very pleased so far a few teething problems but its running ok I like the marshmallow and the movement of apps new UI I had to set the sd card up on first use to choose it. but it automatically puts apps on the sd card for you it joins the sd card in with the internal rom as far as I can make out
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Review
Introduction
This is the CUBOT Dinosaur
Hardware
This device is powered by a Mediatek MT6735A SOC clocked at 1.3GHz, with a plenty amount of RAM (3GB) and enough ROM (16GB). It has an 8MP Rear Camera (OmniVision OV8856), photos interpolated to 13MP, and a 2MP Front Camera (GalaxyCore GC2355), again interpolated to 5MP . Follow my next paragraphs to know more.
Unboxing
Packaging comes with some accessories: 1x Rugged TPU Cover (amazingly robust), 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x 5V/1A Charger, 1x Quick Start Guide, 1x Compliance Regulation paper and the Smartphone (of course). No Headset included.
Unlike most devices from CUBOT, this one has a Plastic Chassis, with a Metal Chassis inside, this makes the whole device robust and lightweight in the same time. Pretty interesting, probably the first time that I see a device with something like this. To know more, just look the CUBOT Dinosaur teardown that can be found on the CUBOT YT Channel.
It is just 15.5x7.9x0.96cm, pretty slim considering that there is a 4150mAh battery inside, and it weights 201g, lightweight enough.
On the front side there is the usual 2.5D Curved Display enclosed in a plastic frame. Sincerely, on this device the plastic frame is pretty noticeable, I don’t know why. The upper front side of the device features a Front-Facing Camera, an Earpiece, and the Sensors hole that includes Light, Proximity and Gesture Sensors, and rare Notification LED. (only Blue color is supported, not RGB)
On the lower front side of the device there are the Soft-Keys Navigation Buttons (not retro-illuminated), and almost hidden Microphone Hole. (on the left)
On the back side there is the removable plastic back cover, with a nice texture similar to the Xiaomi MI4s.
The upper rear side of the device features a flat Camera supported by a Single-Flash (Single Tone) configuration.
The lower rear side of the device features some words about Model & Certificates, and the huge Speaker hole.
Inside, there all the slots are indipendent, smarter than other devices featuring a common slot where only 1x SIM-Card can be used at the same time if you use also a Micro-SD card.
Device
Screen
CUBOT, even if they do not declare it, choose an high-quality IPS screen on this device, made by AUO. But, it requires some a bit on work on the calibration, because color temperature and other factors are not as they should be. A software update might calibrate it.
Brightness is great, without no issues at all under direct sunlight. The Light Sensor works great too, and supports smooth light changes making auto-brightness much better.
About Viewing Angles, the screen doesn’t suffer any kind of issue, it behaves perfect in every single condition.
Camera
Rear Camera works as on all other devices with the same camera sensor, nice quality but high noise level. Focus is pretty fast though, even better that what I thought.
As you can see, HDR makes photos brighter just like it should.
Flashlight is powerful enough for nice shots, and it is almost required because even with medium light the camera sensor suffers a bit.
As regards Video Recording, there are no major issues. 1080p videos (Video Quality – Fine) are recorded with a decent level of details, just remember that there is no OIS so you can’t expect stable videos. It is just me or there is a slight purple tint?
V Just check my sample here V
Front Camera is decent, but it is just 2MP so do not expect superb quality or high-detailed photos.
Audio
Built-in Speaker is...excellent, similar (be careful, not identical) to the Ulefone Vienna. It is loud, and low-frequencies are here, even if not too much, and it has a nice clarity. Well Done CUBOT!
Unfortunately, it is positioned on the back, and, as I have already said for many other devices, if you place the device on a table you could experience volume issues, but this doesn’t mean that it is a bad thing. As always, what matters here is the quality.
Nothing negative to say about the in-call/telephony quality.
Telephony, Mobile Network & WiFi
Thanks to the 4G Band 20 support (some other Chinese Smartphones don’t have it), I’m almost always and everywhere connected to the 4G Network of my Mobile Network Provider (TIM Italy).
Also 3G Signal Reception is accurate, actually I never managed to get connected to the 2G Network of my Mobile Operator because there was always some 3G Signal available.
4G Network Speed is decent, it highly depends on your Mobile Operator and mine isn’t pretty good. While 3G Network Speed, is just fine.
There is no WiFi 5GHz support here, but WiFi 2.4GHz speed isn’t extremely low, I managed to get connected to my network connection at 65mbps, and Speed Tests reach more or less 35mbps.
Battery Life
I have measured the real battery capacity using my USB Tester, and as you can see it is even higher than declared. (declared 4150mAh, real almost 4900mAh) WOW!
Battery Life is just great, thanks to the huge battery. More than 10 hours of screen-on time are achiveable on this device. My PCMark’s Battery test confirms it.
If you are worried about charging times, well...you have to. It doesn’t come with a Quick Charge power supply, so it takes a more than 2 hours to full charge. Maybe they should have used the same charger used on the CUBOT H2 with 5V/2A output, because with my own AUKEY charger, it manages to use nearly 1.4A. The included 5V/1A charger isn’t enough I think...this is a little mistake made by CUBOT. My advice is to use another charger with at least 5V/1.5A Power Output.
Software
Unlike previous devices from CUBOT, this one comes with a completely clean Android 6.0 release, without any customized lockscreen or anything else. Only the Settings app has been categorized, but nothing else. Excellent!
Just like other last-gen Mediatek Devices, there are some typical features such as Gestures, Turbo Download, etc…
The UI is extremely responsive and smooth, no lags at all. Performance is great too, and you’ll see it on the next paragraph, probably the fastest MT6735 device.
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark, Antutu Benchmark, Epic Citadel, GeekBench 3, GFXBench, AndroBench, PCMark (Work & Storage) and Vellamo (Browser & CPU Tests) to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark – GPU Performance isn’t extremely good, OpenGL 3.1 & 3.0 tests require lots of power, and this is where almost every mid-range GPU falls. OpenGL 2.0 tests are pretty good though.
Other 3DMark tests can be found on my Imgur album linked at the bottom of the thread.
AndroBench – eMMC Performance is the highest I have ever found on a MT6735 device.
Antutu Benchmark – I won’t say a lot about this benchmarks, this isn’t as reliable as others. I’m providing this just for benchmarks lovers.
Epic Citadel – As you can see, 3D performance is decent, enough for almost all games.
GeekBench – CPU Performance is nearly as good as other CPUs with the same configuration (4x Cortex-A53), enough to handle almost every type of activity.
GFXBench– GFXBench score is low, but you can’t expect something better with this CPU.
PCMark – As you can see, only Writing score is a bit low. Pretty good.
Work
Storage
Vellamo
Browser score is decent, as good as other MT6735 devices.
The same for the CPU score.
I didn’t expected so high performance on this device. An excellent work has been made by CUBOT engineers, and I hope that they’ll continue to update this device for even more improvements.
Conclusions
With an huge battery, even more powerful that the value declared by the Manufacturer, and with excellent performance, this device is a nice compromise between quality and price.
Do I recommend it? Yes, if you need a long-lasting and powerful enough device, then this is the best choice. If you need a device for heavy-gaming, well...it might be better if you choose something else. Light Games run without any issue though.
Pros:
AUO Screen
Battery Capacity higher than declared
Smooth and Clean Android OS
Notification LED
Cheap
Cons:
Low-End Camera Sensors (Rear & Front)
Single-Color Notification LED
Screen needs to be Calibrated
No Compass/Gyroscope
Rating: 8.6
Packaging and Accessories: 8.5
Design and Materials: 8.5
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 8
Screen: 8
Camera: 6.5
Sound: 9
Battery Life: 9.5
Software: 9.5
OEM Support: 9
Price: 9
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/tz1Kk
Official Website: http://www.cubot.net/smartphones/dinosaur/
You can buy it on many online shops.​

Amazing review, @Alberto96. Many thanks!

Enjoy this Official Video made by CUBOT;

Thanks Alberto! Your review hsa been placed in the first post

hi guys i just bought this phone yesterday & it's awesome as hell...but one thing i can't do is root it coz i want to remove bloatware & install xposed and gravity..anyone who has had success rooting it?

killaflow said:
hi guys i just bought this phone yesterday & it's awesome as hell...but one thing i can't do is root it coz i want to remove bloatware & install xposed and gravity..anyone who has had success rooting it?
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Yes, you can root this device.
Just flash custom recovery TWRP with SP_Flash_Tool. (https://mega.nz/#!fYkkSSIY!tcpvabiGf1JUPo08pSt22el55LYQIGdA1kh-MNe1vAs) Archive contains TWRP and scatter file for dinosaur.
After that you can flash SuperSU By Chainfire from TWRP.

I just started using this phone and second your awesome its a all good rounder I not sure if I root it its fine for me at the moment as far as I can see its pretty well 98%marshmallow in my opinion ?
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How do i boot to recovery with the dinosaur? i flashed the recovery. it seemed to have worked. when i boot i hold down vol(-). a chinese menu appears with a single english entry (english factory) wich i chose not to do. did i do it right? the booting i mean.

wiedster said:
How do i boot to recovery with the dinosaur? i flashed the recovery. it seemed to have worked. when i boot i hold down vol(-). a chinese menu appears with a single english entry (english factory) wich i chose not to do. did i do it right? the booting i mean.
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That's wrong. Volume Up + Power

thx. im such a jackass. didnt work when i tried. didnt try again. i could boot into twrp but now im stuck at the welcome screen. cant swipe to continue. touch controls dont seem to work. is there a non touch based recovery for the dinosaur?

m-net Power 1 - Information & Reviews - 5.0" HD | MT6580A | 1GB | 8GB | 5050mAh

m-net Power 1 - Information & Reviews - 5.0" HD | MT6580A | 1GB | 8GB | 5050mAh
m-net Power 1
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Specs:
Dimensions: 71.7 x 143 x 11.7 mm
Weight: 187 g
Chassis: Plastic
SoC: MediaTek MT6580A
CPU: ARM Cortex-A7, 1300 MHz, Cores: 4
GPU: ARM Mali-400 MP1, Cores: 1
RAM: 1 GB
Storage: 8 GB
Memory cards: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC
Display: 5.0 in, IPS, 720 x 1280 pixels, 24 bit
Protection:
Battery: 5050 mAh
OS: FreemeOS (based on Android 7.0 Nougat)
Back Camera: 2560 x 1960 pixels (5MP), OmniVision Sensor
Front Camera: 2560 x 1960 pixels (5MP), with Flashlight, OmniVision Sensor
SIM card: Dual-SIM, Dual-Standby
Wi-Fi: b, g, n 2.4GHz, single-band, Wi-Fi Hotspot
USB: 2.0, Micro-USB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Positioning: GPS, A-GPS
Other Features:
Colors: Black, Golden, Grey, Lime
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Development & Support:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/m-net-power-1-development-support-t3725777
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Reviews:
My own review: Post #2 & #3
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Review (part 1)
Introduction
This is the m-net Power 1.
Hardware
Joining the battery phone area, this device features an huge battery considering that it is only a 5 inches device: 5050mAh. Thus, combined with the low-power and also low-end Mediatek MT6580 SOC clocked at 1.30GHz, the battery life should be great, or not? Keep reading the review to know more.
Unboxing
Packaging comes with basic accessories: 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x 5V/1.5A USB Charger, 1x Quick Start Guide, 1x Warranty Card, 1x Extra Back Cover and the Smartphone (of course). A plastic screen protector is already applied, but there isn't any case included in the box.
Being a battery phone, it is clear that this device can't be considered small neither light. It is 14.3x7.17x1.17cm, with noticeable bezels, and with a weight of 187g.
The whole device is made of plastic, there are no metal parts for the body, but the unibody removable plastic back cover make the device pretty solid, even though it doesn't feel premium at all.
On the front side there is the usual 2.5D Curved Display and the upper front side of the device features the Front-Facing Camera supported by a Flashlight, an Earpiece, and the Sensors hole that includes Light, Proximity and Gesture Sensors. No Notification LED is here.
On the lower front side there is the classic soft-keys zone, with Recents, Home and Back buttons.
The upper rear side of the device features the Camera Sensor supported by a Single-LED Flashlight.
On the lower rear side there isn't important anything at all since the speaker is located on the bottom.
Device
Screen
Even though this is a low-end budget smartphone, it features a decent screen, with an acceptable color accuracy. I would not have expected to find such a good screen on this device, impressive.
The Light Sensor supports partial light changes, with a sufficient auto-brightness management. This is its maximum brightness.
Viewing Angles almost matches IPS screen capabilities, but there seems to be a small gap between the screen and the touch-panel. I guess this is not a full-laminated screen.
Camera
Camera Quality is mediocre, barely sufficient to get some decent shots, but with an excellent auto-focus management. There seems to be an issue with the exposure management, making all photos look darker than usual even on excellent light conditions. An OTA update might fix this issue.
Just like most budget smartphones, also this one doesn't have an high quality flashlight, with a noticeable blue tint. It is powerful though, still better than nothing.
As regards Video Recording, 1080p videos are recorded at 25fps, with a barely stable frame-rate.
This will probably sound weird, but the front-camera is able to take some great shots, and the front flashlight is powerful too. Unbelievable.
Audio
Unfortunately, when it comes to audio quality, it is possible to notice that this is a budget smartphone. Lack of volume from the speaker, and muffled microphone.
For standard calls it is just fine, but i can't recommend it for sound recording in loud environments.
GPS
GPS quality is decent for outdoor usage, insufficient indoors.
Outdoors on the left, Indoors of the right.
Telephony, Mobile Network & WiFi
Being an old-style 2G/3G smartphone, it isn't possible to get any great result, at least not in my area, using the mobile connection. Signal Reception seems to be great, but do not consider this result as the bible since 3G network coverage is basically everywhere nowadays.
The same can't be said for the WiFi connection. Connected to my 2.4GHz network, the result was not impressive as regards the bandwidth, unfortunately an issue present on the majority of MT6580 devices.
Battery Life
Following my standard battery testing procedure, i tested the real capacity using my USB Tester, and, based on the result, its capacity doesn't match the declated value (declared ~5050mAh, real ~4795mAh).
As expected, the PCMark Battery Life test provides a great result, reaching almost 18 hours and an half. (lowest brightness, WiFi on, Sync on)
Thankfully, m-net provides a 5V/1.5A charger instead of a crappy 1A or 0.5A. Ok, this isn't still fast charging, but with more or less 3 hours it is possible to recharge the device completely.
Software
Running on Android Nougat 7.0 with July 2017 Security Patches and a light version of the FreemeOS ROM, the device looks pretty clean and doesn't have major performance issues. Unfortunately, there is some bloatware pre-installed, that can be uninstalled without any problem. Due to the screen refresh rate capped to ~50hz, the UI doesn't feel as smooth as it should be.
Common Mediatek Features such as MiraVision, double tap-to-wake, gestures and so on are there.
No Malwares Detected by the MalwareBytes Anti-Malware app.

Review (part 2)
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark, AndroBench, Antutu Benchmark, Epic Citadel, GeekBench 4, GFXBench, PCMark (Work 2.0, Computer Vision, Storage & Work 1.0) and Vellamo to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark – A Mali-400MP2 GPU struggles to provide enough power for 3D apps.
AndroBench – A low-end eMMC has been used, i would have preferred something better.
Antutu Benchmark – I won’t say a lot about this benchmark, this isn’t as reliable as others. I’m providing this just for benchmarks lovers.
Epic Citadel – Some OpenGL 2.0 games should have enough power for a decent gaming experience.
GeekBench – CPU Performance is as low as expected, due to the 4x Cortex-A7 SOC.
CPU
Compute
GFXBench – Not the best GPU performance here, but i might have expected something even worse.
PCMark – Just like on all MT6580 devices running on Nougat, the Work 2.0 test isn't able to run properly due to issues with Video Editing tasks so i guess some codecs are not working properly.
Work 2.0
Computer Vision
Storage
Work 1.0
Vellamo – Surprisingly, all tests run correctly even with just 1GB of RAM. The results of course can't be impressive.
Conclusions
This is the first device ever released by m-net, and, considering what they managed to obtain, i guess they will keep focusing on budget devices. Even though it is called "Power 1", it can't be defined a powerful device. OK, its battery is superb, but it would have been better to have some extra performance too.
I do not dislike the idea of having a compact battery phone, since many users do not like devices with a screen bigger than 5.2". With a decent front camera, and a solid, but cheap, build quality, i can't say this is a device that should be ignored completely. I hope m-net will fix the back camera auto-exposure issue, and why not, also optimize the OS a bit more, in order to obtain a more usable smart-brick (not in a bad way, but it is thick).
Pros:
Solid Build Quality
Impressive Screen Brightness
Great Battery Life
Extra Back Cover included
Cons:
No Notification LED
Issues with Back Camera auto-exposure
Low Screen Refresh Rate
Audio Quality could have been better
Battery Capacity lower than declared
Rating: 7.7
Packaging and Accessories: 8.5
Design and Materials: 7.5
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 6
Screen: 8
Camera: 7
Sound: 6
Battery Life: 9.5
Software: 8
OEM Support: Unknown
Price: 9
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/xyond
Official Website: http://www.m-netmobile.cc/p1/
You can buy it on many online shops. Official, and authorized, Retailers are listed in the m-net website.​

Grazie
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Si può fare il root con i soliti kingo root etc. ?

Fastboot and the m-net power
Can't get the phone to stay in fastboot it enters fastboot mode but within seconds it boots. Is there a button combination im suppost to press or something

i tried kingo root. no luck. i think its a glitch with my phone.. ill try kingo again

how to download rom? my m net power have a problem with a firmware, is very very laggy

andreamalachi said:
how to download rom? my m net power have a problem with a firmware, is very very laggy
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Here it is: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/m-net-power-1-development-support-t3725777

A couple of semi-hard questions about MMax3

Good morning
Xiaomi Mi Max 3 is certainly a top contender to be the best phone in terms of SOT.
I. Do You think MM3 SOT will be better than Redmi Note 4 (4100 mAh - small screen) and Moto E5 Plus (5000mAh also smaller screen)?
II) Did you experiance ant bugs in the sticj user interface?
III) What would you describe as pros and cons of this phone?
IV) What is your charging time when OFF from zero to 100% using box charger?
and finally do You think that's the best normal looking (not armored type) phone with the best SOT?

I. Perhaps worse, factoring in their specs (mostly screen)
II. I suppose you meant "stock". Really, no bugs except for some annoying things while using the Full Screen gestures:
when typing with a keyboard in one-handed mode it's very easy to hit the areas for the gestures, resulting in missed clicks around the edges of the screen (bottom for the home/recents gesture and sides for the back/switch app gesture).
also you might do it accidentally sometimes but I guess it's just something to get used to.
III. Pros:
Battery life is great for this phone factor
Has a headphone jack
Type-C
IR Blaster
Fast face unlock/fingerprint unlock
Comfortable yet still massive (depends on your hands)
Back camera array is pretty good and you can force camera2api with root.
Cons:
Speaker isn't the best OOB (you can tweak it with Viper though)
Front camera isn't very good
Before-mentioned gesture problems (you get used to it and learn to use it though)
Anti Rollback
IV. I can't really answer that because I don't use my device very hard so it ends up with like 60% at the end of the day if I used it more, also I don't like doing 0-100% charges as I'm anxious about wasting battery cycles, so hopefully someone can cover that instead of me.
Also the looks aren't really something that matters to me, but this phone looks really sleek to me so I guess that's a yes.
Hope I answered the things you asked ^^

1. Yes according to experience and gsmarena
2. Daily driver bug, Swiftkey keyboard resize, and perhaps a few untranslated chinese here and there. China rom 6gb 128gb model.
3. Pros: Roaming NETWORK BANDS, IR Blaster, headphone jack, batt, notchless screen, microsd
Cons: Speakers, rooting & roms, ymmv camera
4. Not sure rarely had to push it that far.. Keeping it above 60% at most times with slow charge to prolong battery longevity.
5. Energizers 16000mah phone will beat this phone.
Overall i picked this for the superior batt, near flagship roaming bands, notchless screen, plus jack and ir, all for a reasonable price.
CPU is just the right balance for lagfree use and batt efficiency. I don't game so GPU power was never what I was looking for.

shoukanju said:
5. Energizers 16000mah phone will beat this phone.
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Wasn't it canceled?

g3njln said:
I. Perhaps worse, factoring in their specs (mostly screen)
II. I suppose you meant "stock". Really, no bugs except for some annoying things while using the Full Screen gestures:
when typing with a keyboard in one-handed mode it's very easy to hit the areas for the gestures, resulting in missed clicks around the edges of the screen (bottom for the home/recents gesture and sides for the back/switch app gesture).
also you might do it accidentally sometimes but I guess it's just something to get used to.
III. Pros:
Battery life is great for this phone factor
Has a headphone jack
Type-C
IR Blaster
Fast face unlock/fingerprint unlock
Comfortable yet still massive (depends on your hands)
Back camera array is pretty good and you can force camera2api with root.
Cons:
Speaker isn't the best OOB (you can tweak it with Viper though)
Front camera isn't very good
Before-mentioned gesture problems (you get used to it and learn to use it though)
Anti Rollback
IV. I can't really answer that because I don't use my device very hard so it ends up with like 60% at the end of the day if I used it more, also I don't like doing 0-100% charges as I'm anxious about wasting battery cycles, so hopefully someone can cover that instead of me.
Also the looks aren't really something that matters to me, but this phone looks really sleek to me so I guess that's a yes.
Hope I answered the things you asked ^^
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You've earned your 3rd Thanks button acction!
Absolutely fantastic answer(s)!
Please help me out with these:
1. Very few people understand how important for the phone's ergonomics is the activation of letters, functions or gestures using the "holding hand". It can drive the user nuts.
You know your stuff very well bro.
2. Do You think the 1. will appear also when using 2 hands?
3. I never use use gestures so will the 1) issue be a problem for me?
4. Anti Rollback - what do you mean by this?
5. If your day ends with 60% why don't you let your next day end up in 20%?
6. Does 0%-100% charges waste battery? Some people say it's good for the battery cause it forms and calibrates it.
7. Are You worried about wasting battery cycles because of potential selling of the phone?

shoukanju said:
1. Yes according to experience and gsmarena
2. Daily driver bug, Swiftkey keyboard resize, and perhaps a few untranslated chinese here and there. China rom 6gb 128gb model.
3. Pros: Roaming NETWORK BANDS, IR Blaster, headphone jack, batt, notchless screen, microsd
Cons: Speakers, rooting & roms, ymmv camera
4. Not sure rarely had to push it that far.. Keeping it above 60% at most times with slow charge to prolong battery longevity.
5. Energizers 16000mah phone will beat this phone.
Overall i picked this for the superior batt, near flagship roaming bands, notchless screen, plus jack and ir, all for a reasonable price.
CPU is just the right balance for lagfree use and batt efficiency. I don't game so GPU power was never what I was looking for.
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that's the 40th Thanks button for you - THANK YOU!!!
1. "Cons: (....) roms, tymmv camera" - can you be more specific? What did You have in mind?
2. 60% why not 20% and..... - The same question as above.
3. "near flagship roaming bands" - can you be more specific? What did You have in mind?
4 "Daily driver bug, Swiftkey keyboard resize" - can you be more specific? What did You have in mind?
Sorry for my bad understanding of English.

Roms: some people would like more custom rom developments to be made available on xda.
Camera: some people think the camera isn't good enough
60% battery: this is best for your phone according to many experts online. The lower your battery level, the more strain there is on the battery to maintain a stable power output. Think of it like collecting water from a well; easy when its full, and harder and harder when it starts to run dry.
Also, heat is the no. 1 enemy of your battery. Quick charge produces more heat. So does car windshield phone holders as you're literally cooking the phone under the sun (i use an air cond vent holder)
Network bands: number of 4G LTE Channels the phone support. More than your average budget phone. LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), TDSCDMA, CDMA.
Swiftkey bug: https://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001432823-Keyboard-sizing-issues
Energizer phone: Was launched but in low quantity. They are launching a 18000mah model soon. https://www.gsmarena.com/energizer_...h_an_18000mah_battery_and_more-news-35221.php

shoukanju said:
Roms: some people would like more custom rom developments to be made available on xda.
Camera: some people think the camera isn't good enough
60% battery: this is best for your phone according to many experts online. The lower your battery level, the more strain there is on the battery to maintain a stable power output. Think of it like collecting water from a well; easy when its full, and harder and harder when it starts to run dry.
Also, heat is the no. 1 enemy of your battery. Quick charge produces more heat. So does car windshield phone holders as you're literally cooking the phone under the sun (i use an air cond vent holder)
Network bands: number of 4G LTE Channels the phone support. More than your average budget phone. LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), TDSCDMA, CDMA.
Swiftkey bug: https://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001432823-Keyboard-sizing-issues
Energizer phone: Was launched but in low quantity. They are launching a 18000mah model soon. https://www.gsmarena.com/energizer_...h_an_18000mah_battery_and_more-news-35221.php
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I clicked the thanks button, that's now 41st thanks point for you - THANK YOU!
1. Does the 60% rule apply also to othe phones/models/brands?
2. Is it better to turn off the fast charge to give the battery more life?
3.that Energizergot got canceled
4. Is this bug a very irritating issue?
5. Does it exist in Mi Max 2?

Hi,
1. I get 14h Sot over 6 days from 100 to 0. Normal use without gaming. Xiaomi.eu Rom
2. No bugs for me - runs great
3. Pros: big screen, great batterie, good camera with gcam, headphone jack, fullscreen gestures, price
Cons: None for me
4. In general I load the phone from 30 to 80 in 90mins with non quick charge charger. 0 to 100 with qc I think it is little over 2 hours.

blackxr said:
Hi,
1. I get 14h Sot over 6 days from 100 to 0. Normal use without gaming. Xiaomi.eu Rom
2. No bugs for me - runs great
3. Pros: big screen, great batterie, good camera with gcam, headphone jack, fullscreen gestures, price
Cons: None for me
4. In general I load the phone from 30 to 80 in 90mins with non quick charge charger. 0 to 100 with qc I think it is little over 2 hours.
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THANK YOU!!! - +1 thanks point for You
1. 6 days of SOT mmmm that's pure melody. Can You specify more what do You do under your SOT
4. What do You prefer? charging the phone from 30% to 80% or from 0%-100%? Is it fifty-fifty? or do you have a preference for example to charge from zero to 100%? What is the ratio of charging from 30% to 80% to from 0% to 100%? Do You believe and perforem the method of prolonging battery life that is about not discharching the phone below a few tens of % (like 60%-20%)?
5. Is normal charger the one from the phone box? Does the fast charger has to be bouguht sepretly and does it require a special USB cable or normal?
6. Did MM3ax ever lagged or got frozen?

I don`t get 6days of sot. I have 14 hours sot within 6 days standby. Sot is mostly surfing, texting, mails, youtube, news . Some navigation and photos.
Yes, charging from 30 to 80 will hopefully exceed batterie life. It is about lithium ion batterie physics.
Qc charger comes with the phone. I use a different charger with a little lesser output. Mostly because this one fits german sockets other than the original chinese one.
No lags and freezes for me.

blackxr said:
I don`t get 6days of sot. I have 14 hours sot within 6 days standby. Sot is mostly surfing, texting, mails, youtube, news . Some navigation and photos.
Yes, charging from 30 to 80 will hopefully exceed batterie life. It is about lithium ion batterie physics.
Qc charger comes with the phone. I use a different charger with a little lesser output. Mostly because this one fits german sockets other than the original chinese one.
No lags and freezes for me.
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it's good that You explain that 6 days/SOT
thank you +1 thank point foe you

Look here a max 3 shot

I have the max 2 many redmis with good battery but like this non
Sent from my MI MAX 3 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

nokiagye said:
I have the max 2 many redmis with good battery but like this non
Sent from my MI MAX 3 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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So You're saying that Mi Max 3's battery is better than Mi Max 2 and other Redmis?
Can You list all your Xiaomi phones that You have please?
It's very important.

BTW +1 THANKS +1 THANKS points for your both replys.
BTW#2 can You get these images in English please? (switch to english language and capture them)

androidbadboy said:
So You're saying that Mi Max 3's battery is better than Mi Max 2 and other Redmis?
Can You list all your Xiaomi phones that You have please?
It's very important.
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It's not that important but the photos
Sent from my MI MAX 3 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

nokiagye said:
It's not that important but the photos
Sent from my MI MAX 3 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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THESE Are the OLD photos NOT in English dude!!!

7 hours screen time from 100 to 80% I didn't see that on any other phone no matter the usage. On this case I was almost always on fly mode with wifi on and I was browsing and watching YouTube.
Sent from my MI MAX 3 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

nokiagye said:
7 hours screen time from 100 to 80% I didn't see that on any other phone no matter the usage. On this case I was almost always on fly mode with wifi on and I was browsing and watching YouTube.
Sent from my MI MAX 3 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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What do you mean by saying "On this case I was almost always on fly mode"

WHY THE ROG PHONE 2 IS THE BEST OVERALL PHONE RIGHT NOW ? LET'S TALK...

HI EVERYONE
I'M THE CREATOR OF NUMEROUS POSTS OF ROG PHONE 2 . AFTER ALMOST TWO YEARS I REALIZE THAT THIS PHONE IS THE BEST FOR MY NEEDS . I'VE TESTED MORE THAN 50 SMARtPHONES EVEN MI 10 PRO AND THEY AMAZING JBL SPEAKERS( THIS IS THE LATEST I HAD) BUT BATTERY IS NOT AS GOOD AS ROG , SPEAKERS AREN'T VERY LOUD BUT GOOD QUALITY AND BASSES.... BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS ROG WHY IS BETTER
- IT HAS VERY SOLID BUILD QUALITY. GORILLA GLASS 6 , GLASS AND METAL COMBO, 7000 SERIES ALUMINIUM( ROG PHONE 5 IS WELL COSTRUCTED BUT IT BEND MORE EASILY THAN IPHONE 6 PLUS AND IT'S UNACCETABLE FOR 899$ PHONE.
-FIRST ROG WITH 6000MAH BATTERY THAT CAN LAST UP TO 2 DAYS, EVEN 3 WITH 60 HZ AND DARK THEME!
-IT HAS 3.5MM JACK WITH EXCELLENT QUALITY AND EQ (I REALLY MISS ON ROG PHONE 3 AND MOST HIGH END SMARTPHONES)
-IT HAS PROBABLY THE LOUDEST SPEAKERS I' VE EVER HEARD WITH VERY GOOD QUALITY AND CLARITY+ OUDOOR MODE THAT BOAST TREBLE ( ROG 3 DOESN'T HAVE THIS AND ALSO QUIETER SPEAKERS WITH SIMULATED BASSES)
-IT HAS 2 STRONGER VIBEATOR MOTORS ( MOST PHONE INCLUDED ROG 3 HAS ONLY 1)
-4 WIFI ANTENNAS, 4 MICROPHONES
-FIRST 10BIT OLED HDR 120 HZ, 240HZ SAMPLING RATE DISPLAY WITH VERY GOOD DELTA ( QHD IS NOT NECESSARY UNLESS YOU USE VR, AND IT CONSUME MORE BATTERY AND LOWER THE FPS) 90HZ IS THE STANDARD BASE FOR 2020, FROM 60 YOU WILL NOTICE A DIFFERENCE. 120 IS RECCOMEDED , 144 IS ONLY FOR EXTREME GAMING AND DRAIN A LOT. BUT UI,SOCIAL,GAMES BEST IS 120 FOR EYES
-RGB LOGO. THIS IS COOL FOR NOTIFICATION, DURING NIGHT , IT'S A DISTINGUISHABLE SPEC THAT PEOPLE WILL NOTICE.
-18W CHARGING WILL DEGRADE BATTERY LOWER THAN FAST CHARGER LIKE 65W OR 120 AND MY TIP IS TO CHARGE UP TO 80%. THIS PHONE ALSO SUPPORT 30W. SINCE THE BATTERY IS 6000 MAH I RECCOMEND BOTH . BOTH ARE SAFE
-FIRST ROG WITH ALMOST STOCK ANDROID.ANDROID 9 IS LATEST ROM THAT SUPPORT ALSO GLTOOL ( FUTURE PROOF TOOL FOR GPU DRIVERS) AND ALSO ANDROID 9 HAS RW SISTEM. I RECCOMEND THIS ROM BECAUSE A10 IS NOT AS OPTIMIZED AS A9 AND IT' S HAS LOTS OF PERMISSION THAT MADE MODS, APPS NOT COMPATIBLE. BATTERY IS ALSO BETTER IN A9
-AIRTRIGGERS
-FAST UFS 3.0 STORAGE, LOTS OF RAM STORAGE, LAG FREE DEVICE. COSTANT PERFORMANCE
-2 PORTS. USB 3.1 AND 2.0 FOR CHARGING AND REVERSE CHARGING
-GOOD CAMERA EIS( WITH GCAM YOU WILL DO MUCH BETTER PHOTOS AND VERY STABLE 60FPS VIDEOS)
- VERY FAST 855+ PROCESSOR DON'T OVERHEAT AND BETTER TEMPS THAN LATEST 800 SERIES SOCs.
-BEST ROG EVER MADE FOR AESTETIC ( ORANGE ACCENTS ON THE BACK AND THE SPEAKERS, BACK COVER HAS METAL COLOR, MORE COLORFUL ACCENTS ON THE BACK AND MORE SQUARE CAMERAS AND FRAME, IT HAS MORE GAMING LOOK.
THE CONS THAT NOT AFFECT MY DECISION TO BUY AGAIN THIS PRODUCT:
-NO IP RATING, FOR NORMAL USE LIKE RAIN IS PROTECTED SINCE THERE IS NO DIRECT CONTACT TO MOTHERBOARD
-NO WIRELESS CHARGING, I DON'T NEED AND USE I PREFER 3.5 MM JACK THAN THIS..
-NO OIS FOR CAMERA , GCAM WILL FIX THIS WITH NIGHT MODE AND THEIR AMAZING SHOTS AND VIDEOS ( MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR A GAMING PHONE)
-NO DDR5 RAM OR LATEST SOC: 855 PLUS IS PROBABLY THE BEST SOC SINCE DOESN'T OVERHEAT A SINGLE DAY. IT'S MORE EFFICIENT THAN 865 OR 888. THESE OVERHEATS AS LOT OF REVIEWS. DDR4 RAM IS VERY GOOD IF YOU HAVE 8/12 GB ON A PHONE. NO DIFFERENCE IN REAL LIFE.
-NO 8K. NO NEED SINCE PANEL IS FULL HD AND YOU NEED 8K TV FOR SEE THE VIDEO RECORDED
-NO 5G. IT'S FASTER BUT DEPEND BY COUNTRY COVERAGE. THIS WILL DRAIN MORE BATTERY AND MAKE DEVICE HOT. FOR ME IS ENOUGH 4G+ SINCE IS MORE MATURE TECNOLOGY FOR MY NEEDS
-NO SD CARD( BUY 128 OR 512/1T STORAGE NO PROBLEM)
-WEIGHT( THIS IS VERY BALANCED ON ROG 2 TAKE CONSIDERATION OF THAT)
i bought again from giztop at very good price new for 459$ 8/128 gb is a lot for me and i SUGGEST as base in 2021 64gb at least, RECCOMENDED 128GB
i will modify some my post to get best possible user experience on this phone
thank you to all members to enjoy this forum

I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles

asdor said:
I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles
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Were thinking same

Are there xda awards for the most useless posts? I nominate yours.

Considering the dying PM 8150 chip state I would dare say it's literally impossible to argue that the rog2 is the best phone.

Now, because of this post, i will search and buy ROG phone 2 right away

ianseer said:
Now, because of this post, i will search and buy ROG phone 2 right away
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eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post

dvijetrecine said:
eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post
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quite sure he was being sarcastic

Danishblunt said:
quite sure he was being sarcastic
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i do hope that is the case, as OP is going a bit over the top

Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...

nguadien said:
Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...
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You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Obviously my impressions with "latest updates" are very bad.
Every time an Android device update (or being forced to), battery life always downgrade or shortened, because phone providers want you to feel sluggish, slowed, outdated, inconvenient with your devices. Then you would want to buy newer models after 3 years.
My friends all used Oppo and Samsung. First stock roms always have best battery life and smoothest experience. Then things went down until 2-3 years later, when every devices become all laggy, jittery, battery hungry.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Ok now I updated my experience so far for Android 11:
2201.211 rom: Cannot root, even if I installed Magisk 24.3 FIVE times - yes I tried so many times and ways to install root
2111.160 rom: Can root after installing Magisk 24.3.
- I then used Mantis Gamepad Pro to use PS5 controller. After 2 days it stopped recognizing inputs.
- Without Mantis Gamepad Pro, I can use PS5 controller but of course cannot map properly in-game
- Battery draining rate with Bluetooth is very fast (even when the only app opened is Mantis Gamepad Pro + Ebook reader), -80% battery in 3 hours
=> I'm back to 1910.35 for Android 9 - doubled battery saving, better performance, no Mantis Gamepad Pro bugs
Also, I need to update two bugs in Android 11:
+ It does not accept chargers from other brands, for me it's TWO different Samsung 18W charger (Android 9 accepted them normally).
+ It does not accept charging after being drained to 0%. I accidentally slept when reading ebook, making it drop from 50% to 0% during the night.
Next day, no matter what kind of charger (Oppo, Samsung, Asus), it flashed green charging circle for 0.5s then screen off. I had to charge using Asus charger for 1 hour to bring it to 1%, then held Power key to enter OS. Then it did NOT accept charging, I had to re-plug Asus charger again to make it recognize charging.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Android 11 has Accessibility bug that's not been fixed in any rom
Fake Camera app also cannot work on Android 11
Besides the better System UI and keyboard switching button - I cannot find a reason why Android 11 is better.
Android 9 consumes 5% per 30 min gameplay
Android 11 consumes 20% per 30min gameplay
This is a huge difference man.
However, Android 9 System UI would often stop working for 5-10s if I use older apps in 2018, which is a little annoying.