Nexus 7 rom without battery drain - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

So we all know there is something very wrong with 6.0.1. Does anyone knows when the battery drain started? Like are 6.0 roms also messed up? What about 5x roms? What rom is least likely to present battery issues for those who have actually had them?

6x? 5x? How about 4.4.4...Specifically, the Slimkat rom? That's what I've been running and, believe me, I've tried them all.
No other rom has given me the battery life, stability, and flexibility that this rom has. Battery lasts forever even with heavy use, and oh, do I use this thing. I'm an IT tech and my Nexus 7 is like a third hand to me. And when you use it the way I do, you can't mess around with dying batteries, instability and what not.
Trust me...newer roms with higher numbers and all kinds of eye candy are not always better.

ssenemosewa said:
6x? 5x? How about 4.4.4...Specifically, the Slimkat rom? That's what I've been running and, believe me, I've tried them all.
No other rom has given me the battery life, stability, and flexibility that this rom has. Battery lasts forever even with heavy use, and oh, do I use this thing. I'm an IT tech and my Nexus 7 is like a third hand to me. And when you use it the way I do, you can't mess around with dying batteries, instability and what not.
Trust me...newer roms with higher numbers and all kinds of eye candy are not always better.
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I am running a 6.0.1 rom but am curious to try a 4.4.4 rom. Will the bootloader version cause any trouble?
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Debanka said:
I am running a 6.0.1 rom but am curious to try a 4.4.4 rom. Will the bootloader version cause any trouble?
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Not sure about that. I use multirom and thus avoid any of that possible trouble. Allows me to switch between roms as easily as changing a pair of socks.

Debanka said:
I am running a 6.0.1 rom but am curious to try a 4.4.4 rom. Will the bootloader version cause any trouble?
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I too am running 6.0.1 with TWRP on bootloader 4.05 (or whatever the latest versions is). I was able to install Slimkat 4.4.4 no problem.

RunNgun42 said:
I too am running 6.0.1 with TWRP on bootloader 4.05 (or whatever the latest versions is). I was able to install Slimkat 4.4.4 no problem.
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How do you check the boot loader version? I remember updating to the latest one while updating from lollipop 5.0.2 but I dunno how to check it now
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Debanka said:
How do you check the boot loader version? I remember updating to the latest one while updating from lollipop 5.0.2 but I dunno how to check it now
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I believe if you manually try to enter recovery mode it will show you at the preboot menu of Android. For instance, turn power completely off, then hold volume down + power, when that funky BIOS looking screen shows up where you can choose to enter bootload/recover mode, it will say at the bottom of the screen "bootloader = 4.05" or something like that.
On an unrelated note, I'm getting absolutely horrid wifi speeds on this rom. Just to download a 30meg app is going to take 30 minutes. Maybe bad radio version?

RunNgun42 said:
I believe if you manually try to enter recovery mode it will show you at the preboot menu of Android. For instance, turn power completely off, then hold volume down + power, when that funky BIOS looking screen shows up where you can choose to enter bootload/recover mode, it will say at the bottom of the screen "bootloader = 4.05" or something like that.
On an unrelated note, I'm getting absolutely horrid wifi speeds on this rom. Just to download a 30meg app is going to take 30 minutes. Maybe bad radio version?
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Yeah... Or reboot to bootloader (screen with green android) and see the bootloader version at the bottom of the screen.
ssenemosewa said:
6x? 5x? How about 4.4.4...Specifically, the Slimkat rom? That's what I've been running and, believe me, I've tried them all.
No other rom has given me the battery life, stability, and flexibility that this rom has. Battery lasts forever even with heavy use, and oh, do I use this thing. I'm an IT tech and my Nexus 7 is like a third hand to me. And when you use it the way I do, you can't mess around with dying batteries, instability and what not.
Trust me...newer roms with higher numbers and all kinds of eye candy are not always better.
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Exactly right. Slimrom 4.4.4 is the best ever android ROM for overall stability, customization, performance, and battery life. Only ROM that ever came close was omni official 4.4.4. Used both on 3 different devices.
RunNgun42 said:
I too am running 6.0.1 with TWRP on bootloader 4.05 (or whatever the latest versions is). I was able to install Slimkat 4.4.4 no problem.
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4.05 is, in fact, the latest bootloader.
Debanka said:
How do you check the boot loader version? I remember updating to the latest one while updating from lollipop 5.0.2 but I dunno how to check it now
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See my response above, reboot to bootloader.

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[Q] Best custom/mod kernel for Stock UCLJ3 Rom (root)

Just wondering what the best kernel is to flash to the stock UCLJ3 rom?
I'm suffering crazy battery drain since updating. I've done a ton of things including a full wipe and reflash, and it's still happening.
Only thing I havent tried, or done before is flash a kernel...
Any recommendations?
melvatron said:
Just wondering what the best kernel is to flash to the stock UCLJ3 rom?
I'm suffering crazy battery drain since updating. I've done a ton of things including a full wipe and reflash, and it's still happening.
Only thing I havent tried, or done before is flash a kernel...
Any recommendations?
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Haven't had any trouble with the battery drain using IcePop rom! but of course flashing any new rom, you have to let it settle for 1 to 2 days / charge cycles for the os to stabilize!
I've been running it since day of release.... Using battery apps all reports that the Android OS using a heavy % and/or the phone isnt always going into deep sleep.
And its happening even before I put a google account on or install any apps.
I suppose I could go back to G9 or the H2 release... might do it as a test, to see if it really is the J3 release thats causing me problems.
melvatron said:
I've been running it since day of release.... Using battery apps all reports that the Android OS using a heavy % and/or the phone isnt always going into deep sleep.
And its happening even before I put a google account on or install any apps.
I suppose I could go back to G9 or the H2 release... might do it as a test, to see if it really is the J3 release thats causing me problems.
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Which kernel are your running? Also check to see what your cpu governor is set to! Use system tuner from the market
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Just the default I think... I dont believe I've done anything more than flash an entire ROM, and mostly rooted stocks.
Gonna give that app a try though, thanks for the tip.
melvatron said:
Just the default I think... I dont believe I've done anything more than flash an entire ROM, and mostly rooted stocks.
Gonna give that app a try though, thanks for the tip.
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I'm hoping to release a new an updated version if not tonight maybe by Monday! battery life should be good.
keep in mind that a deodexed rom will use a little more power!
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[Q] Should i change my ROM

Hi,
I have Xperia S from O2, locked Bootloader. My phone is fast and smooth running. Battery life drains 10% in 8 hours of turned off, and about 20-30% turned on for 45 mins.
ROM - XTXperience_7 (installed Start of Jan)
Android Version 4.0.4
Baseband - 8660-AAABQQLYM-314010-28
Kernel - 3.0.8+1.0.21100-30145-01956-g43358ca
Should i keep phone as it is or can anybody suggest a slightly better one?
Kindest Regards
It all depends on what your preferences are, I would suggest trying a few different roms (like cm10, aosp, paranoidandroid etc) and see what you like best
but make a backup of your current setup 1st so you can revert to it easily
420 Ghost said:
It all depends on what your preferences are, I would suggest trying a few different roms (like cm10, aosp, paranoidandroid etc) and see what you like best
but make a backup of your current setup 1st so you can revert to it easily
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he clearly says his bootloader is locked, so all those suggestions are useless.
i heard latest release of xtxperience had all the xperia T jellybean stuff so i'd say go for that one.
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They were merely the first roms that came to mind as I'm not familiar with locked bootloader roms.
Did you not see the 'etc..'?
Sorry for being 'useless' LOL
My point still stands, try a few and see what you like best
420 Ghost said:
They were merely the first roms that came to mind as I'm not familiar with locked bootloader roms.
Did you not see the 'etc..'?
Sorry for being 'useless' LOL
My point still stands, try a few and see what you like best
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well that's true, just try and see what you like. honesty i wouldn't have a clue either if my bootloader was locked.
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He also says it's locked. Not that it's not unlockable
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morby42 said:
Hi,
I have Xperia S from O2, locked Bootloader. My phone is fast and smooth running. Battery life drains 10% in 8 hours of turned off, and about 20-30% turned on for 45 mins.
ROM - XTXperience_7 (installed Start of Jan)
Android Version 4.0.4
Baseband - 8660-AAABQQLYM-314010-28
Kernel - 3.0.8+1.0.21100-30145-01956-g43358ca
Should i keep phone as it is or can anybody suggest a slightly better one?
Kindest Regards
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XTX7, is damn good, XTX9 is also very good, and XZX1 is great, they all work with locked bootloader, and install pretty easily, make a backup and try XZX1 (i think its really usuable) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2137561
this is of course just my opinion.

Still on 4.1.2

Anyone else still this far back? I'm on Eclipse 412. I want to upgrade, but I've never found a rom that works as well. Tried some of the 4.2 and 4.4 but haven't found a good one yet. Didn't try any 4.3 for some reason. I just keep going back to 412, but Google services don't work on it and I'm sick of seeing that pop up on some apps. Though I'm wondering if maybe that's a good thing since I hear a lot abt Google services killing battery and stuff.
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eclipse 4.1.2 was one of the best setups I've ever ran on this device. I've considered going back to it recently even, not sure what you mean about Google play services not working on it?
Google now doesn't work for example. I'll get a message saying "Google services cannot run on this device"
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cnoevl21 said:
Google now doesn't work for example. I'll get a message saying "Google services cannot run on this device"
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Must be only that ROM related issue.
Everything works fine with the PA 4.1.2 ROM I've still been running for 18+ months, but I did have some temporary Google issues from using a black theme, uninstalled theme and it was back to normal.
Test it out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/rom-maguro-toro-toroplus-t1892214
isajoo said:
Must be only that ROM related issue.
Everything works fine with the PA 4.1.2 ROM I've still been running for 18+ months, but I did have some temporary Google issues from using a black theme, uninstalled theme and it was back to normal.
Test it out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/rom-maguro-toro-toroplus-t1892214
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time to upgrade to 4.3/4.4. they're better than 4.1.2 for sure. 4.3 is more fluid for sure. Try the stock 4.3 rom or purity 4.3 + franco. you won't be disappointed.
hp13 said:
time to upgrade to 4.3/4.4. they're BETTER than 4.1.2 for sure. 4.3 is more fluid for sure. Try the stock 4.3 rom or purity 4.3 + franco. you won't be disappointed.
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BETTER in what way exactly?
Cause I've tested all the 4.2/4.3/4.4 ROM's and nothing seems to work any BETTER than 4.1.2 for my needs, which for me is too have as many possible controls/functions available from touching the lower half of the screen, w/out having to sacrifice any screen space for status/navi bars and while holding it w/1 hand only using thumb, be it for any quick settings or launching/switching/closing apps or typing or turning the screen on/off/unlocked.
Extended desktop in 240dpi tablet mode helps too.
isajoo said:
BETTER in what way exactly?
Cause I've tested all the 4.2/4.3/4.4 ROM's and nothing seems to work any BETTER than 4.1.2 for my needs, which for me is too have as many possible controls/functions available from touching the lower half of the screen, w/out having to sacrifice any screen space for status/navi bars and while holding it w/1 hand only using thumb, be it for any quick settings or launching/switching/closing apps or typing or turning the screen on/off/unlocked.
Extended desktop in 240dpi tablet mode helps too.
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im on resurrection remix (4.4.2) and it is so much smoother and faster than the 4.3 and older ROMs ive tried (PA and PACMAN). I heard LiquidSmooth is also great so I consider upgrading to that at some point and switch to F2FS while im at it
Plenty of roms have the option to customize that nav and status bar (including hiding it for slide in) as well as app launchers and various other features. I recommend checking out reviews of popular roms on youtube or something, to check what the are capable of and then decide on which one to pick!
hp13 said:
time to upgrade to 4.3/4.4. they're better than 4.1.2 for sure. 4.3 is more fluid for sure. Try the stock 4.3 rom or purity 4.3 + franco. you won't be disappointed.
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Skip 4.3 if you can, it is horribly slow and heavy. at least go to 4.2.2 or 4.4 would even be better in term of overall performance and device usability.
jazle said:
Skip 4.3 if you can, it is horribly slow and heavy. at least go to 4.2.2 or 4.4 would even be better in term of overall performance and device usability.
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i found 4.2.2 rom sluggish. i didn't experience the memory leak bug on 4.3. even the stock launcher on 4.2.2 was little laggy
Just stick with 4.1.2 if that works best for you. 4.2 is very laggy and 4.3 and 4.4 are so-so(not as smooth as 4.1.2).

Best ROM?

I'm trying to figure out the best ROM for the g3. I also understand that a good amount of this is going be opinion however this is fine by me . As personal experience with a daily ROM driver is best.
A few key features are things like longer battery life and the double tap to wake. Are really important. I'm using blisspop currently and everything outside of double tap taking forever or never working.
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The one that has the most of what you want... They are all good. Just go through the threads, read the Original posts, and try the ones that interest you.
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proxy0 said:
I'm trying to figure out the best ROM for the g3. I also understand that a good amount of this is going be opinion however this is fine by me . As personal experience with a daily ROM driver is best.
A few key features are things like longer battery life and the double tap to wake. Are really important. I'm using blisspop currently and everything outside of double tap taking forever or never working.
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I purchased a phone with illusion rom already on it. Double tap works great and battery life seem great. I'm also exploring ROMS but wanted to give you my feedback.
I came from a sammy ROM that allowed me to customize everything so a little disappointing so far. not even sure if xposed works on this phone.
orateam said:
I purchased a phone with illusion rom already on it. Double tap works great and battery life seem great. I'm also exploring ROMS but wanted to give you my feedback.
I came from a sammy ROM that allowed me to customize everything so a little disappointing so far. not even sure if xposed works on this phone.
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xposed definitely works on G3. I have 6 modules activated, and looks to me that the repository is the same as sammy. I'm running stock rooted, with SkyDragon kernel 1.61. LG is definitely different, but even stock is almost half size of full touchwiz.
dongarritas said:
xposed definitely works on G3. I have 6 modules activated, and looks to me that the repository is the same as sammy. I'm running stock rooted, with SkyDragon kernel 1.61. LG is definitely different, but even stock is almost half size of full touchwiz.
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xposed wont install. says Xposed is not compatible with android sdk version 21 or your processor architecture (armeabi-v7a).
orateam said:
xposed wont install. says Xposed is not compatible with android sdk version 21 or your processor architecture (armeabi-v7a).
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I'm using stock rooted 10r, with skydragon 1.61 kernel untouched. I tried using the AOSP/CM/PA 5.whatever ROMS, and had too much instability and compatibility problems. My guess is that either you are trying the wrong version of the framework, or it is incompatible with the Rom you are using. Search the illusion thread, and I think they may have a Q&A in the general section. I have been running this for a week or more with no issues whatever. Good luck :good:
Illusion is a Lollipop Rom. You have to use the Xposed alpha for lollipop and not the standard release. Search xda and you'll find a read only thread from the dev...And a mess of a discussion forum. There are issues with Xposed alpha & a few LG apps, so use with caution if you flash an LG Lollipop Rom...notably smart cover and a couple weather apps.

Mokee e98X 2016-06-02

Is anybody using Mokee over here?
If I'm not wrong, in the past the rom was CM based. However, now it seems to be AOSP based.
What can you comment on its quality and community support?
Thx
g0at1 said:
Is anybody using Mokee over here?
If I'm not wrong, in the past the rom was CM based. However, now it seems to be AOSP based.
What can you comment on its quality and community support?
Thx
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Yes, im using mokee
duongthinh441 said:
Yes, im using mokee
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And how about it? Do you recommend? How does it compare to blisspop and slim?
g0at1 said:
And how about it? Do you recommend? How does it compare to blisspop and slim?
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you should try if you like it great ?
duongthinh441 said:
you should try if you like it great ��
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Can you tell us in a few words, what bugs have you mentioned while using this ROM?
On official CM 12.1 black screen bug is very annoying,everything else is quite good.
saneksem said:
Can you tell us in a few words, what bugs have you mentioned while using this ROM?
On official CM 12.1 black screen bug is very annoying,everything else is quite good.
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Cm 12.1 and mokee No bug with my device f240L + wildkernel , but batery drain
duongthinh441 said:
Cm 12.1 and mokee No bug with my device f240L + wildkernel , but batery drain
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that's why i am asking,i don't use wildkernel because of battery draing,but without it black screen bug appears
i want to know about usage with stock ROM kernel
saneksem said:
that's why i am asking,i don't use wildkernel because of battery draing,but without it black screen bug appears
i want to know about usage with stock ROM kernel
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I think you can't using rom with stock kernel, because stock and cm are different !!!
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Sorry , because I am a Vietnamese , so my english is not perfect
Well, I decided to test the rom. Up to now I only noticed the following :
When I set Open Camera to HDR, after about 5 seconds the screen goes black and I found no way to get back at it without rebooting. Maybe, that's what @ShadySquirrel was working on before his device had USB problems.
On both Bliss and Slim, if you reboot while on LTE, when you get back at the home screen you'll notice you have no signal. Thus, the best way is changing to 3G before rebooting, and then changing again to LTE after the phone has restarted.
Mokee still has this same problem. However, up to now, it seems to be more stable.
For the rest, I'd say it's pretty smooth. No screen glitches whatsoever.
It has most feature Slim does, but what I miss is more about some design details that I eventually could try to request them later...
I really recommend moving to it as it seems like it has been developed and tested up to the last release. So, you'll surely find a level of stability we didn't have on lollipop.
g0at1 said:
When I set Open Camera to HDR, after about 5 seconds the screen goes black and I found no way to get back at it without rebooting. Maybe, that's what @ShadySquirrel was working on before his device had USB problems.
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If that happens in other apps, you have your culprit: PCC commit for kernel/updates for LiveDisplay in device tree.
g0at1 said:
Well, I decided to test the rom. Up to now I only noticed the following :
When I set Open Camera to HDR, after about 5 seconds the screen goes black and I found no way to get back at it without rebooting. Maybe, that's what @ShadySquirrel was working on before his device had USB problems.
On both Bliss and Slim, if you reboot while on LTE, when you get back at the home screen you'll notice you have no signal. Thus, the best way is changing to 3G before rebooting, and then changing again to LTE after the phone has restarted.
Mokee still has this same problem. However, up to now, it seems to be more stable.
For the rest, I'd say it's pretty smooth. No screen glitches whatsoever.
It has most feature Slim does, but what I miss is more about some design details that I eventually could try to request them later...
I really recommend moving to it as it seems like it has been developed and tested up to the last release. So, you'll surely find a level of stability we didn't have on lollipop.
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Can you please test it few days and tell if black screen appears anywhere else except camera app(and better don't use stock camera)?
g0at1 said:
Well, I decided to test the rom. Up to now I only noticed the following :
When I set Open Camera to HDR, after about 5 seconds the screen goes black and I found no way to get back at it without rebooting. Maybe, that's what @ShadySquirrel was working on before his device had USB problems.
On both Bliss and Slim, if you reboot while on LTE, when you get back at the home screen you'll notice you have no signal. Thus, the best way is changing to 3G before rebooting, and then changing again to LTE after the phone has restarted.
Mokee still has this same problem. However, up to now, it seems to be more stable.
For the rest, I'd say it's pretty smooth. No screen glitches whatsoever.
It has most feature Slim does, but what I miss is more about some design details that I eventually could try to request them later...
I really recommend moving to it as it seems like it has been developed and tested up to the last release. So, you'll surely find a level of stability we didn't have on lollipop.
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Are you using the HISTORY 160420 version?
DanC7766 said:
Are you using the HISTORY 160420 version?
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I was until some days ago. But I had problems with the screen going black in some inconvenient moments. For example when I was driving somewhere I didn't know very well and had to reboot to get back with waze.
Thus, I went back to bliss but then I had sudden reboots that had the same effects as black screens while I was driving.
Well, to wrap up I'd recommend Mokee as long as your needs won't be much affected if a reboot is needed. It really is a smooth rom.
Oh, I didn't test bluetooth...
Anyway, I am posting to their g+ community right now pointing at that bug. Maybe they can do something about it.
BTW, if anybody decides to test Vanir, please share the experience.
Since yesterday I've decided to try the latest wild kernel with mokee again.
Up to now no black screens.
If something else happens I'll report back.
hello g0at1 i dont know if you been using an lg optimus g pro for a long time but i have buts its like all roms for the e980 have flashes for black screen and i wonder if does the mokee for the e980 also causes ur screen to get hot too cuz for my lg e980 screen gets hot near the home button from the different roms such as carbon rom which is the current rom im using and other roms such as cynogenmod and resurrection remix and please reply quickly becuz im so frustrated with this phone for a while now even though i have a big battery for it for 9300mah
Hey!
I have my G Pro since 2013.
Different from other roms, Mokee doesn't overheat. Even if you don't use it with wild kernel. However, with wild kernel I have had no black screens in a week.
Then, you should try it.
Well, I'm back to report that although I didn't have black screens in two weeks, I did have some screen flickering and they would only go away after a reboot.
I now think they've been blind building Mokee for our device for some time. Thus, I'm back at slim following @ShadySquirrel advice to try different governors in order to avoid rebooting.
I'm using Intelimm right now. Let's see if it'll reboot some time.
Previously I had tried Inteliactive and intelidemand... Both rebooted. Then, I checked kmsg and I did not find any dsp subsystem error.
As of right now I'm convinced that lg ogp doesn't react too well with the lollipop, regardless what flavor of rom. If it's not one problem, then it's another. As much I love this device, I really don't think it can be a stable device running anything more than the kitkat. Because with the lollipop, all the issues were never really fixed. Instead, they're merely are patched over, as if they're "duct taped" together to keep from falling apart. Which can't hide any of the problems for long. So as much as I hate to admit and tell you, no matter what combo you try, there is no way to make this device run well, while it's running any of the lollipop rom.
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hawkwind212 said:
as of right now i'm convinced that lg ogp doesn't react too well with the lollipop, regardless what flavor of rom. If it's not one problem, then it's another. As much i love this device, i really don't think it can be a stable device running anything more than the kitkat. Because with the lollipop, all the issues were never really fixed. Instead, they're merely are patched over, as if they're "duct taped" together to keep from falling apart. Which can't hide any of the problems for long. So as much as i hate to admit and tell you, no matter what combo you try, there is no way to make this device run well, while it's running any of the lollipop rom.
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so true bro.
Andy Chi said:
so true bro.
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I went back to SlimLP. Only this time I'm using adaptative governor.
Also, I'm using Kernel Adiutor v2.0 and LMK set to aggressive.
I noticed that in my device this combination worked well.
After that, no more random reboots.
But I have it pretty clear, my next phone will be a nexus again...
Just don't know yet if I'll opt for the 6P or nexus 2016...

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