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Anyone elses rooted phone stopped getting paid app access today?

Title says it all.

Yep, blocked or somethings gone wrong.
Market enabler says it is working and access is ready. Go into market, select all apps and then change view to paid.
Getting message "no matching content in Android Market"
Killed tasks, started phone from scratch and still the same.

No problems here...

anyone got any help here please?

I can still see paid apps with my rooted while unlocked hero using market enabler.

Fixed it.
Market enabler was defiantly blocked/or bust in on my phone. Reinstall of app failed, everything failed except for....well PM me for details because I ain't posting it here. I have a feeling it may have been a deliberate act either by Google or Netcom though I cannot see how the later could have achieved this.

Same here.
Worked a couple of days ago.
Not anymore.
Have Onecall and that uses telenor and network Norways net.
Not netcom. Is Google that is ****ing us over again.

Same here , since yesterday , i cannot see paid aps in Market with ME

http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/issues/detail?id=6
Basically it says that 3.0 beta works if you set it to o2-de.
And I can confirm that it works (for how long, who knows)
Right now I'm buying out the market in case someone at Google decides it'll be a good idea to remove paid apps again.
I just wish I could actually locate CoPilot GPS....

death_hawk said:
http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/issues/detail?id=6
Basically it says that 3.0 beta works if you set it to o2-de.
And I can confirm that it works (for how long, who knows)
Right now I'm buying out the market in case someone at Google decides it'll be a good idea to remove paid apps again.
I just wish I could actually locate CoPilot GPS....
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Just tried,
It works when installing 3.0 beta like you said. I can also see CoPilot on the list of top paid apps.

Can you tell me if this:
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.alk.copilot.marketplace.na.full
shows up?
Or if the North American one from here shows up:
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/android/
I tried both using all 4 profiles in ME3 and none show up.

Calm down, calm down.
As I said, I have sussed the problem and it is not the blocking of T-mobile. It is your operator resetting your location and there is a simple fix.
I have reproduced the problem and a a workaround. Think about it, how can the operator block you if you are on wifi? The market enabler spoofs the location of the phone so the operator sends a message to the unit to reset location back to the home country provider. Google then blocks that as it was before the phone was Market Enabled. All you have to do get the phone back into a position of spoofing its location.
They could not block access for the T-mobile spoof as that would piss of all American Android users on T-Mobile who are not spoofing but have it for real. Therefore country id, in the marketplace, must be a combination of two factors. Google has just found a way of resetting one. I worked out a way of putting it back.

death_hawk said:
Can you tell me if this:
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.alk.copilot.marketplace.na.full
shows up?
Or if the North American one from here shows up:
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/android/
I tried both using all 4 profiles in ME3 and none show up.
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Ummm, I guess you're right. It doesn't show up. I guess the US T-Mobile profile is blocked?

OH come on read please.
For the last sodding time it's not blocked! I am on the T-mobile spoof address after resetting my location!

or if nothing works anymore you go the easyest way like i do since yesterday..... takeout my Orange Swiss simcard, put it in my X1, make it as a router, put my german Simyo simcard into my hero and go online by wifi over X1 if im on the way or use my wify at home...... if using a german simcard oder another one from an activated country everything will work wherever you are

Random Google wallet issues???

My experiences with Google wallet have been strange. Here's a run down:
Attempt 1
Went to Macy's, took about 4 tries before it went through.
Attempt 2
Went to meijer, got an error saying card reader could not be detected. I tried several times before giving up.
Attempt 3
Went to 7-11, no problems whatsoever.
Attempt 4
Went back to meijer tried a different checkout lane then the last time. No problems.
Attempt 5
Meijer, one more time went to the SAME lane as the time it worked. Didn't work this time got that error again saying couldn't detect card reader.
Is anyone else's this inconsistent? I don't understand. I unlock my phone, hold it up to the machine until it says sent. Any suggestions? Why is it like this? Everyone else stories I read say it works flawlessly or it doesn't work at all.
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are you using any particular case, did you update the app to the newest build?

Any errors I've encountered could be chalked up to one of two things. Either the pad was not turned on/not connected (make sure there is a green light on the pad), or the network is down\you dont have a network connection.
The network has been somewhat spotty for me over the last day or two. Today it was down for almost 2 hours. An easy way to tell if the network is down is to look at the app, select payment cards, then choose the card you are using. I use the google prepaid card, tap it and at the bottom under userid if there is a number you are connected to the network.. If the network is down or you do not have connectivity you will see something that says "can't connect to bank". You can not make a purchase if you do not see your userid, I always open the app now and check while I'm waiting in line.

krichek said:
Any errors I've encountered could be chalked up to one of two things. Either the pad was not turned on/not connected (make sure there is a green light on the pad), or the network is down\you dont have a network connection.
The network has been somewhat spotty for me over the last day or two. Today it was down for almost 2 hours. An easy way to tell if the network is down is to look at the app, select payment cards, then choose the card you are using. I use the google prepaid card, tap it and at the bottom under userid if there is a number you are connected to the network.. If the network is down or you do not have connectivity you will see something that says "can't connect to bank". You can not make a purchase if you do not see your userid, I always open the app now and check while I'm waiting in line.
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Thanks! I'll give that a shot(checking the user id) that sounds like it could be helpful.
@nyplaya
no, I don't have a case and I don't know if I have the latest updated version. I haven't checked because I didn't want to update and become a victim of the secure element error. I'm not exactly sure what the cause is and didn't want to risk it. But if its safe to do so, how do I find out if I have the latest version and where would I get it?
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daledenton said:
Thanks! I'll give that a shot(checking the user id) that sounds like it could be helpful.
@nyplaya
no, I don't have a case and I don't know if I have the latest updated version. I haven't checked because I didn't want to update and become a victim of the secure element error. I'm not exactly sure what the cause is and didn't want to risk it. But if its safe to do so, how do I find out if I have the latest version and where would I get it?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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you can do one of two things, follow the OP here:
Or you can try my little faster method: not sure if it is for the paid version only but if you download and install the APK of wallet, then use the app appmonster to backup the app, you can then simply select it in appmonster to view in the market and it bi-passes the restriction of the carriers in the normal market app it allows updating

Samsung find my phone not working?

Hi Folks,
So I'm posting in the Tmobile side since I picked up a Tmobile S4 even though I'm using it on AT&T to see if its a Tmobile thing, maybe some conflict from running on AT&T or just doesn't work at all...
I setup and have created/logged in with a Samsung account in the accounts pane and when I go online to try to find the phone I get two things. The first is the site says its not available in my region. And the second is following some details on their site about enabling it on the phone aren't working. It says add a Samsung account (done), go to settings, more, security then remote management (or remote control) then more steps but there is no remote management or remote control listed under settings.
Is this working for anyone at all?

re: signing in
Screwbal said:
Hi Folks,
So I'm posting in the Tmobile side since I picked up a Tmobile S4 even though I'm using it on AT&T to see if its a Tmobile thing, maybe some conflict from running on AT&T or just doesn't work at all...
I setup and have created/logged in with a Samsung account in the accounts pane and when I go online to try to find the phone I get two things. The first is the site says its not available in my region. And the second is following some details on their site about enabling it on the phone aren't working. It says add a Samsung account (done), go to settings, more, security then remote management (or remote control) then more steps but there is no remote management or remote control listed under settings.
Is this working for anyone at all?
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Signing up and logging in to your tmobile, google or AT&T accounts are optional
and have nothing to do with how or if your phone will work.
You don't need to sign on to any of these three for your phone to work properly.
If your Tmobile M919 Galaxy S4 is NOT UNLOCKED it will not work on any network
except Tmobile.
It will not work with AT&T unless the phone is UNLOCKED.
Either way, the main thing I was trying to say is whatever your problem is it has
nothing to do with signing into tmoble or AT&T or gmail.
All three of those things are optional and have no effect on the phone working properly.

Awesome good to know. Now the only question is has anyone else gotten it to actually work if they have tried?

Screwbal said:
Awesome good to know. Now the only question is has anyone else gotten it to actually work if they have tried?
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It's difficult to say if it will work or not since I have NO idea of what the problem is to start with.
All I know is that you have an Tmobile Galaxy S4 cell phone.
I don't even know if you ever tried a Tmobile sim card in it or whether the phone is unlocked and so on.
So I don't know how to be more helpful to you.

Misterjunky said:
It's difficult to say if it will work or not since I have NO idea of what the problem is to start with.
All I know is that you have an Tmobile Galaxy S4 cell phone.
I don't even know if you ever tried a Tmobile sim card in it or whether the phone is unlocked and so on.
So I don't know how to be more helpful to you.
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No, I just mean the feature in general on the phone. Does anyone have the find my phone function through Samsung working or at least have tried and can confirm that it does work for you, or that you too can't set it up?

Screwbal said:
No, I just mean the feature in general on the phone. Does anyone have the find my phone function through Samsung working or at least have tried and can confirm that it does work for you, or that you too can't set it up?
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You still are very unclear in what your really want to know, I still do not even know if your phone ever worked properly for you.
I still don't even know if your phone is UNLOCKED or not and I don't even know if you have a at&t sim or a tmobile sim card.
You never mention these things in any of your posts so how can anyone confirm anything you are asking to be confirmed?
If you use your phone on the Tmobile network you will have the option of free wifi calling which does not count against cellular minutes.
On the AT&T network there will be no option at all for wifi calling.
All the other features and options on the Galaxy S4 whether it's on the AT&T network or Tmobile network will be exactly the same.
You will not see or find any differences at all except for the wifi calling which I wrote about.
Anyway I am a bit busy, so I cannot help you anymore but I am sure there will be a lot of other people
here who can help you even more than I can.
Perhaps a mind reader will give you a hand if your lucky enough to find one.

The question is clear. Has anyone had this option ever work for them?
To be honest I am not sure how the option works but it maybe GPS related if Samsung is controlling it and not the carrier.
Wayne Tech Nexus

zelendel said:
The question is clear. Has anyone had this option ever work for them?
To be honest I am not sure how the option works but it maybe GPS related if Samsung is controlling it and not the carrier.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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The question has nothing to do with whether the phone is network locked or not; or what carrier's sim card is installed. It has to do with whether a specific function in an app works or not for AT&T users with a TMO device. I have an unlocked TMO version on AT&T network, I'll try what you are talking about and get back with you. I'm reverting back to my stock backup to check. I can't seem to find the particular app you're using through Samsung apps and it doesn't appear to be present on the debloated stock ROM I'm using.

re: function
lordcheeto03 said:
The question has nothing to do with whether the phone is network locked or not; or what carrier's sim card is installed. It has to do with whether a specific function in an app works or not for AT&T users with a TMO device. I have an unlocked TMO version on AT&T network, I'll try what you are talking about and get back with you. I'm reverting back to my stock backup to check. I can't seem to find the particular app you're using through Samsung apps and it doesn't appear to be present on the debloated stock ROM I'm using.
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You must be the mind reader I was talking about........ LOL
Have a great weekend...

Misterjunky said:
You must be the mind reader I was talking about........ LOL
Have a great weekend...
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I just happen to have nothing but time on my hands.
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lordcheeto03 said:
I just happen to have nothing but time on my hands.
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My experience so far is that I also cannot access the feature. You are correct in the fact that the "Remote Control" tab doesn't exist under Settings->More->Security. It should be below "Encrypt Device" but it isn't. The website findmymobile.samsung.com says that once you activate/register your Samsung account on the device, that menu will automatically be enabled; but from my experience (and yours as well apparently) that is definitely not the case.
I did a little research, and within a few minutes I was directed to a thread here on XDA from the SIII forums talking about this particular problem. Apparently, the carriers themselves have removed the ability to use Samsung's built-in mobile location features in preference of the carrier's own mobile location apps and services.

dumb! but I figured out that lookout can do it. going on 24 hours since I picked it up and dusting off my android cobwebs still for how I used to get by a year ago. Was trying to have to install some 3rd party app that I didn't know so tried the built in stuff with no luck but with lookout pre installed and I already know it I figure that should work just fine for me. Thanks folks for the feedback and conversation!

re: finally I understand...............
lordcheeto03 said:
I just happen to have nothing but time on my hands.
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My experience so far is that I also cannot access the feature. You are correct in the fact that the "Remote Control" tab doesn't exist under Settings->More->Security. It should be below "Encrypt Device" but it isn't. The website findmymobile.samsung.com says that once you activate/register your Samsung account on the device, that menu will automatically be enabled; but from my experience (and yours as well apparently) that is definitely not the case.
I did a little research, and within a few minutes I was directed to a thread here on XDA from the SIII forums talking about this particular problem. Apparently, the carriers themselves have removed the ability to use Samsung's built-in mobile location features in preference of the carrier's own mobile location apps and services.
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AH, so that's what the guy was looking for, I just could not make much sense of what he was asking after reading his posts.
There are several apps at the play store which have the same or similar capabilities.
Here is a link to one of them, it's called "find my phone" it's a free app which finds phones which have been stolen or lost etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5mc3AuYW5kcm9pZC5waG9uZXRyYWNrZXIiXQ..

Misterjunky said:
AH, so that's what the guy was looking for, I just could not make much sense of what he was asking after reading his posts.
There are several apps at the play store which have the same or similar capabilities.
Here is a link to one of them, it's called "find my phone" it's a free app which finds phones which have been stolen or lost etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5mc3AuYW5kcm9pZC5waG9uZXRyYWNrZXIiXQ..
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Yeah, but if it's supposed to be provided by the manufacturer it would stand to reason that it would be available to everyone who bought the device. Apparently though, our carriers tend to believe their own software is far superior to that of those who manufactured the device... I personally don't even use that stuff as I never turn GPS on in the first place; so in the event that my phone is stolen or lost, that kind of software won't do me any good to begin with.

[sm-t705] build.prop question (spoofing)

Ok so my network (Three uk) disabled my unlimited wifi teathering some time ago which rendered the tablet i used at work useless.
So i went out and found myself a new big screen phone, the sm-t705, a little unwieldy as a phone but hay it works.
Only here comes the snag, when i put the sim card into the device the internet would not work, an error page tells me to put the sim card into a phone to get net, three tech support told me that my phone is a tablet and cant make phone calls .....i was using it to call them lol
Anyway, to the point, i recently read that a rooted device (i am rooted) can pretend to be another device by changing the build.prop there are tons of guilds on how to change it, though from the view point of making google play see it as a different device to install unsupported applications, seems straight forward (if a little risky) but here are my questions,
1) what sections do i need to change so the phone reports as a normal phone?
2) what phone should i spoof as? (im thinking i should spoof as a phone as close to my specs in terms of processor etc as possible to avoid installing a version of an app that may have different cpu requirements or may burn out my phones gpu)
3) anyone done this? any tips if you have?
Thanks in advance,all advice greatfully recieved.

Regarding your old tablet, have you tried Foxfi?
Foxfi doesn't need a tethering plan or root and can create a hotspot using either Bluetooth or wifi.
It works great for me.
Barnacle wifi also used to be good on older devices, but seems to have issues with newer ones.
I used it to create a hotspot on a device that didn't even support it.
All you need is Foxfi on the phone and pdanet on the tablet for the 2 to connect via Bluetooth. Foxfi provides the instructions and links to pdanet to get it up and running in minutes.
For your new tablet if the sim is detecting it is a tablet and three are blocking it from mobile data then I don't think a spoof using the build.prop will fool it as it uses the imei as far as I know.
You may be better off with an xposed module to spoof the device, even then I think your success will be limited.
It's a bit crap of three to do this. I use O2 and have no issues using my phone sim in any tablet.
Does the tablet not even make a mobile data connection?
Have you checked the apn settings are correct?
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I used pdanet for a while, but would prefer to just use one device, the old tablet was sold to pay for the t705 (will part pay, damn this thing was pricy)
Does the imei reveal the device model?

mrgreaper said:
I used pdanet for a while, but would prefer to just use one device, the old tablet was sold to pay for the t705 (will part pay, damn this thing was pricy)
Does the imei reveal the device model?
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It's used to identify the device, so they will know it's a tablet.
There is an xposed module called device faker, but like I say I think success will be limited as I think the sim will identify the imei from the hardware.
It's seems three don't want you using your tablet for data, do they have an explanation for this?
Maybe all you need is an updated sim card.
I have a three sim card that I can use for data, but if I want I can also make calls with it if I put credit on it.
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This explains the issue better then I can,
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/opinion/...y-monthly-account-from-use-with-ipad-3368856/
As for why, the lady at the three shop told me the data to a tablet is different to the data to a phone as it's not the same operating system......I did my best to not laugh and asked to speak to a higher up, they told me that as it is a tablet and not a phone I would be breaching my contract if I used my simcard in it.....
The actual reason, someone who uses a tablet is more likly to use data and therefore they can get more money out of them via tablet plans with limited data... To sum up, greed.
My temporary solution is to use a bt simcard which gives me access to the world's most unstable bt WiFi network (which disconnects every 30 mins or so) I was hoping the build.prop would be the magic solution doh

I am not familiar with samsung builds, but i had this problem on my motorola phones, (tether locked and forbidden)
Ok, in motorola we have 2 prop files:
build.prop
And
cda.prop
In the cda.prop , i found a line
ro.tether.denied=true
try find this line on your device
If the line does not exists, try force to exist
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And your carrier will nevermore be able to remotely set your device again forcing by a init.d script or putting this command in /system/bin/debuggerd:
setprop persist.radio.adb_log_on 0
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Dethfull said:
I am not familiar with samsung builds, but i had this problem on my motorola phones, (tether locked and forbidden)
Ok, in motorola we have 2 prop files:
build.prop
And
cda.prop
In the cda.prop , i found a line
ro.tether.denied=true
try find this line on your device
If the line does not exists, try force to exist
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And your carrier will nevermore be able to remotely set your device again forcing by a init.d script or putting this command in /system/bin/debuggerd:
setprop persist.radio.adb_log_on 0
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Tethering isn't really the issue, it's that three block my simply from data access when I put it in my sm-t705 so I was hoping to make 3 think my sm-t705 was infact a Xperia z3 for example

mrgreaper said:
Tethering isn't really the issue, it's that three block my simply from data access when I put it in my sm-t705 so I was hoping to make 3 think my sm-t705 was infact a Xperia z3 for example
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I'll ask again, do you or do you not get a mobile data connection? [emoji53]

ashyx said:
I'll ask again, do you or do you not get a mobile data connection? [emoji53]
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Yes and no
Any page you try to access goes straight to a page three has to say that your sim card won't work in this device and to put it back in a phone, so while technically you have data you can't use it, no apps can use it either

mrgreaper said:
Yes and no
Any page you try to access goes straight to a page three has to say that your sim card won't work in this device and to put it back in a phone, so while technically you have data you can't use it, no apps can use it either
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So you actually do get a mobile data connection it's just any data sent is blocked.
Have you tried using a vpn, this can circumvent most carrier restrictions.
DotVPN is free and very good, available on play.
There is also TouchVPN, but DotVPN is better as its truly anonymous.
I use these to circumvent Sky's stupid restrictions.
Worth a go.

Vpn? He will have to use vpn? Forever?, i believe your carrier is denying access due to fake id. . .return to yor real roots, or you will get troubles,
Example , is imposible, strictly forbidden change IMEI number of mobiles,
So i may able to SHOW a fake IMEI for really nonsense apps that NEVER interest my IMEI. THAN THE CARRIER.
The carrier, will recognize my real IMEI EVER.
If i change the code inside the IMEI,
They will suspend the services.
So. . .
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Dethfull said:
Vpn? He will have to use vpn? Forever?, i believe your carrier is denying access due to fake id. . .return to yor real roots, or you will get troubles,
Example , is imposible, strictly forbidden change IMEI number of mobiles,
So i may able to SHOW a fake IMEI for really nonsense apps that NEVER interest my IMEI. THAN THE CARRIER.
The carrier, will recognize my real IMEI EVER.
If i change the code inside the IMEI,
They will suspend the services.
So. . .
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They already have suspended his services and no he doesn't need to use a vpn forever, he can always update his plan.
What's wrong with a vpn anyway? I use one all the time and he only needs to use it for mobile data not wifi.
We're looking for solutions here to unreasonable restrictions not statements to the obvious.

Sadly what I use most of my data for is Netflix, I work as night security. A vpn would be bad.
To chap further up, nothing is spoofed at the minute, three detect the sm-t705 when I have thier sim in it and block data access, put the sim in my phone and the block is lifted, I'm looking for a way to make three think my sm-t705 is saying Xperia z3 and leave my data along

Your IMEI correspond to your device model number.
If You change or reformat your IMEI partition with a new number and device model number and id, the carrier will blacklist and suspend your device, simcard.
Is imposible to fake IMEI to carrier provider
I am able to spoof IMEI to all that i judge nonsense apos, minus the carrier...
Sent from my XT320 using xda premium

Bought Unlocked Pixel 3 From Google, & T-Mobile Crammed an App Onto the Phone Anyway!

Bought Unlocked Pixel 3 From Google, & T-Mobile Crammed an App Onto the Phone Anyway!
How to make a customer very angry, and concerned about security...
Bought a brand-new Pixel 3 from Google, inserted my T-Mobile SIM card, (Goodbye Sony Xperia Series! Good Riddance!) and went about my business with my new Android 10 phone.
But a few days after, just today, I see a screen pop up that was pink - I asked me if I wanted to check and see if my phone was "eligible" for unlocking.
One surmises that T-Mobile noticed the new device ID associated with the same old SIM card, and downloaded the app WITHOUT PERMISSION AND WITHOUT ANY NOTICE THAT THEY WERE DOING SO. They also did not even bother to check the ID against their own inventory to determine if they had sold the phone or not, if they did, they would have seen that it was a Pixel, which they don't offer.
At no time did I visit a T-Mobile sit or download any T-Mobile related apps. They just took it upon themselves to silently install software without even asking.
So here's the punchline - what ELSE might they have installed, and how can I be sure about this?
What else might they install in the future? On whose behalf?

packetfire said:
How to make a customer very angry, and concerned about security...
Bought a brand-new Pixel 3 from Google, inserted my T-Mobile SIM card, (Goodbye Sony Xperia Series! Good Riddance!) and went about my business with my new Android 10 phone.
But a few days after, just today, I see a screen pop up that was pink - I asked me if I wanted to check and see if my phone was "eligible" for unlocking.
One surmises that T-Mobile noticed the new device ID associated with the same old SIM card, and downloaded the app WITHOUT PERMISSION AND WITHOUT ANY NOTICE THAT THEY WERE DOING SO. They also did not even bother to check the ID against their own inventory to determine if they had sold the phone or not, if they did, they would have seen that it was a Pixel, which they don't offer.
At no time did I visit a T-Mobile sit or download any T-Mobile related apps. They just took it upon themselves to silently install software without even asking.
So here's the punchline - what ELSE might they have installed, and how can I be sure about this?
What else might they install in the future? On whose behalf?
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I noticed the same thing on my pixel 3 xl and I'm on Google Fi and I can't uninstall that app to unlock my phone, I can only disable the app

lavin40 said:
I noticed the same thing on my pixel 3 xl and I'm on Google Fi and I can't uninstall that app to unlock my phone, I can only disable the app
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What's worse is that the app itself claims that you CAN remove the app, after it has (correctly) determined that the phone is not locked.
Is your app also a "T-Mobile" app with a pink icon, or is it a variant that is branded for the Google FI service?

packetfire said:
What's worse is that the app itself claims that you CAN remove the app, after it has (correctly) determined that the phone is not locked.
Is your app also a "T-Mobile" app with a pink icon, or is it a variant that is branded for the Google FI service?
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The app is pink I believe I got a Verizon pixel 3 xl cause the OEM unlock option is greyed out so I can't even root the phone

During the initial setup, there is a "sneaky" screen that asks if you want to finish (or something, I forgot). But if you expand that screen, there are several apps that Google intends to install, and you can opt out right there. Duo is definitely one of the apps, and several T-Mobile apps (I'm on TMO) as well as some others. I opted out and don't have any TMO apps.

Just like the above comment, it's in your 'additional-apps' section of the initial setup. If you uncheck? It doesn't install.

jbarcus81 said:
Just like the above comment, it's in your 'additional-apps' section of the initial setup. If you uncheck? It doesn't install.
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Yep. This. If the app(s) are installed it's because you let the setup install them. They (Google/T-Mobile) didn't install them on the phone without your consent. You just missed where you have the option to not install them.

ktmom said:
During the initial setup, there is a "sneaky" screen that asks if you want to finish (or something, I forgot). But if you expand that screen, there are several apps that Google intends to install, and you can opt out right there. Duo is definitely one of the apps, and several T-Mobile apps (I'm on TMO) as well as some others. I opted out and don't have any TMO apps.
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Well, that must be how it was done - anyway, the app is gone now, all by itself, so it appears to be yes, an undetectable silent install of an undelete-able "system app", but it seems that once you are verified as "unlocked", it self-deletes.
But I got nothing but the "unlocker", no Duo installed for me. (I like Google Authenticator - 2FA without anything else to carry, and SIM-swap-proof).
So this was the paternalistic Google trying to be helpful, but creeping people out yet again with their presumptuousness.

packetfire said:
Well, that must be how it was done - anyway, the app is gone now, all by itself, so it appears to be yes, an undetectable silent install of an undelete-able "system app", but it seems that once you are verified as "unlocked", it self-deletes.
But I got nothing but the "unlocker", no Duo installed for me. (I like Google Authenticator - 2FA without anything else to carry, and SIM-swap-proof).
So this was the paternalistic Google trying to be helpful, but creeping people out yet again with their presumptuousness.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.pr.mytmobile
Tmobile silently installed this app on my unlocked pixel 3xl from best buy just yesterday after I set up my playstore account!
As a User app though.

packetfire said:
How to make a customer very angry, and concerned about security...
Bought a brand-new Pixel 3 from Google, inserted my T-Mobile SIM card, (Goodbye Sony Xperia Series! Good Riddance!) and went about my business with my new Android 10 phone.
But a few days after, just today, I see a screen pop up that was pink - I asked me if I wanted to check and see if my phone was "eligible" for unlocking.
One surmises that T-Mobile noticed the new device ID associated with the same old SIM card, and downloaded the app WITHOUT PERMISSION AND WITHOUT ANY NOTICE THAT THEY WERE DOING SO. They also did not even bother to check the ID against their own inventory to determine if they had sold the phone or not, if they did, they would have seen that it was a Pixel, which they don't offer.
At no time did I visit a T-Mobile sit or download any T-Mobile related apps. They just took it upon themselves to silently install software without even asking.
So here's the punchline - what ELSE might they have installed, and how can I be sure about this?
What else might they install in the future? On whose behalf?
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Just to show that it was indeed installed to the device...

dirtyreturn said:
Just to show that it was indeed installed to the device...
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As stated in this thread, you accepted the install of the T-Mobile app during the setup process.

ktmom said:
As stated in this thread, you accepted the install of the T-Mobile app during the setup process.
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That's just exclusive to the pixel 3? Stock Rom?
Just wondering since it's a first that this happened for me. Being on the same carrier with previous phones this did not happen.

dirtyreturn said:
That's just exclusive to the pixel 3? Stock Rom?
Just wondering since it's a first that this happened for me. Being on the same carrier with previous phones this did not happen.
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I think I had to disable TMO apps during setup on my PH-1. I'm sure that Google has agreements with the carriers who offer the device. Even (esp?) when the device comes straight from Google.
And yes, stock ROM.