Hi XDA geeks , pros and fans !
I'd like to start this new threadline concerning the freshly-appeared TCT MOVE handheld device marketed for the budget segment.As i understand it appeared in march or later this year and has quite good specs for the approx. 100 euro category.
Some details can be found on
http://alcatelonetouch.com/products/smartphones/move
Contrarily to some beliefs IT IS NOT a branded OT-908 ,rather a cosmetized one .It comes in black or silver / white , a bit heavy for it's size , and higher specs than the OT-908.
Concerning the hardware specs, i'll be coming back later with some accurate chipset and sensor details.For now
OS is Android Froyo v2.2.2.Looks like there will be official ROM updates,at the time being there is the OneTouch Upgrade v1.2 ,which downloads about 540 Mb chunked firmware files, and exits with error.
Memory is 512 Mb RAM , for user space is available about 300 Mb
512 Mb ROM flash, available to user about 160Mb.
SD card slot supports up to 32Gb MicroSD, the phone comes with a 2Gb one.
Camera is a 2.1Mpixel one.There is no secondary one,but the main camera is available for video calls,with Yahoo! Messenger i tested it myself.How to use it this way i will explain later.
GPS is amazing , if assistance software is used , the lock-on takes only seconds.
Sensors - linear acceleration sensor
- 3 axis orientation sensor
- 3 channel magnetic field sensor (digital compass)
- light sensor for illuminance detection
- optical proximity sensor , it seems not in use by operating system(or rather poorly)
Processor - 600 MHz Qualcomm ARMv6 compatible, min frequency is 122 Mhz, and deep sleep capability.Qualcomm MSM 7627 chipset
rooting ?
hi djada80.i should like to ask if you managed to root your phone ?
Yeah , it's quite simple.There are in the Android Market some free apps , i think the best which i also use is the one named Ginger Break.Just download and install it.Detailed usage info can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
firmware upgrade
it seems that the branded ones somehow cannot be upgraded ! at this point i need assistance , so PLEASE , if there is anybody experienced in debranding Acatel smartphones, then YOU ARE MOST WELCOME !.I saw guys having problem with debranding T-Mobile Move , so let's DO IT !
cannot sync with windows
i cannot sync my tmobile move with windows.have a toshiba satellite c665 with win 7 .pls help !
connect phone to computer,enable usb tethering.install alcatel android manager on computer. Can be found here
alcatelonetouch.com/contents/download/T-Mobile_AndroidManager_2.2.1108.1645.rar
This should work,instead of Android Sync Manager WiFi ,the last has some issues with this phone ,do not use it.
Yahoo! messenger front camera
Contrarily to some beliefs THERE IS POSSIBLE TO MAKE VIDEO CALLS with front camera only on Froyo 2.2.It is quite simple:
1.) if you have any version of yahoo apps , remove them all
2.) install Y!Messenger v1.3.2 , the afferent audio and video plugin and
optionally Y!Mail v1.3.2
Nothing fancy with it , just works.Remember, DO NOT UPDATE from Market.
Might also check this,if it doesn't work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087769
remove bundled apps ?
Hi !
Is there a way to remove some of the unnecessary factory shipped apps ?
RE
Yes , there is. So the smart method vould be to remove them from phone memory , and eventually install it on SD Card , if they are (and they are) UNMOVABLE.
Or just leave them ,anyway a factory reset will restore all the shipped applications.
1.) [optional] install Android SDK with platform 2.2 , sdk tools and eventually drivers.Enable USB debugging on device.On PC launch command prompt and change directory to \Android\android-sdk\platform-tools\.Run command
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
This enables SDCARD installation by default.Prerequisits to have ROOT ACCESS.
2.) with RootExplorer simply delete unwanted applications from \custpack\apps\ on device.Optionally you can make backups.
3.) if you made backups , the backed-up apk can be used to be reinstalled , NOW ON SD CARD
Good luck.
RE again
A reboot of the device is required to cleanup the junk after a forced delete.Or it can be done manually , BUT USE CAUTION.
i have an alcatel move branded Cosmote Move, i like this phone very much but i`ve managed to brick it the second time, first time i bricked and took it to waranty, they reinstall the software free of charge, now it has the same simptoms (pass the carrier logo and get stuck to carrier animation) and i need to send it to waranty again. i dont manage to get it unbricked. i`ve root it with gingerbreak but this phone doesnt go to recovery mode. i`ve searched the internet and google it for hours, but nothing.
if anyone knows how to do it please tell me, in the user manual says hard reset vol - and power, get stuck whit touch buttons light up and screen black!!
thanks in advance
re Themaster
it's not a brick yet i suppose , though you didn't specify how you managed to "brick" your phone.a nice clean reflash would solve the problem , probably you deleted some system files while in root mode.again did you use root explorer or something similar ?
try a factory reset as it follows:
1.) turn off the phone
2.) press vol up and the power on and hold the buttons pressed for about 1 minute
3.) the phone boots up , android logo appears and then an animation with some sort of thrashcan or whatever
4.)wait until it finishes , then the phone shuts down automatically.power on the phone and it will be restored
Beware ,battery must be at least 70 % charged or kept in charger , NOT USB connected to PC.
This restores phone to factory state , but not all the applications from /custpack/apps
Best regards !
Useful Key Combinations
These keypress modes apply on a shut down phone
Hard Reset - reinstalls android core system from ROM , deletes user data and misconfig
key combo : vol up + power on long pressed until trashcan animation appears
Flash Mode - used for ROM update , useless momentarily
key combo: vol down + power on long pressed , black screen appears and touch buttons lit up
Root access , mount filesystem with root access ,DANGEROUS !
key combo : home + power on long pressed until boot
build environment under Ubuntu
Lately, there has been some problems setting up an Android build environment under Lucid Lynx, as i've seen many have been complained for the missing java5 jdk.
For Romanian users: seems to be a problem with the Romtelecom DNS servers , when adding Jaunty or Dapper repositories to Lucid.
Use Google DNS as alternatives 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.This works.
From what I've been able to determine. The move and 908(s) are the same hardware with with only cosmetic differences. Something is different in software, I've been unable to root my 908s with ANY tools I've found.
I was also unable to use ADB under windows. The handset apparently requires four drivers, I was only able to find three of them. I got the Alcatel tools to work, as well as tethering, but no ADB. i didn't have any such issues under Ubuntu, but without root it isn't helpful.
I could not locate a stock rom or source anywhere on the Alcatel sites, so I sent a GPL request, i'm waiting to hear back.
UPDATE
After a long night I managed to root my 908s. I'll write out the jist of it, but I was flying by the seat of my pants, fueled by caffeine and sleep depervation. DON'T consider this a HOWTO.
First off, to the best of my knowlage there is no one click solution as of yet. As I said before still missing the driver that makes ADB work in windows, and handset based solutions didn't pan out. A little reasearch showed that the OT-990 has the same chip/ram and ROM space as ours. The screen is bigger, and I don't know what board is in it, but on a hunch I figured it was close enough. So I went here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164391 in the hopes that some sort of combined effort in future ROM development would be possible.
Yes that's right folks its a guide to MANUALLY root you handset with ADB. So not for the faint of heart. I didn't have high hopes, as issuing ls -l on either the sqlite folder or data threw a permission denied. So blindly I tried to push psneuter, busybox and su to /data/local. I almost fell off my chair when it worked! from there I used psneuter to get ADB into root, and managed to get the su binary to /system/xbin, and Superuser into /system/app. Superuser was installed, but still no root. So I checked out Root Checker to see what was going on. There are three places that su typically lives; /system/xbin, /system/bin, and /sbin. So I tried to put su in those folders. I got it into /system/bin but sbin is mounted read-only. I did not remount any directories, as the instructions are lacking syntax (I'm a little rusty with advanced mounting commands). I think things are mapped a little differently anyway. I still did not have root on the handset, so I then fired up Superuser to see what it could see. It saw the su binary, even though it wasn't working right. Then I thought well if it can see it, then maybe it can update and fix it. Sure enough after running the update to su in Superuser, (drumroll please...) I had working root.
So that's my story so far, I'm gonna give Alcatel a week or so to reply to my request. Then we'll take it from there. (Hey it worked on Huewei right?)
If a real dev should come across this, feel free to jump in. Its a solid little phone and has the potential to work on a range of handsets.
Gratitude
Thanks snkiz for your attention ! I am pleased that someone 'heavy' noticed my efforts of dedicating this threadline to the newcomer ! Indeed a small little phone with potential , maybe in time we get it gingerbread , cupcake ( or whatever ),even wm6.5 or 7 ...
As of ADB drivers , i had ADB from the first by these steps:
1.) http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/contents/download/move upgrade 1.2 Setup.rar , package contains the drivers
Now i noticed that when i try firmware upgrade , the utility downloads about half a giga of *.bin files and then exits with 'download failed error'.
2.) installed Android SDK , platform tools and Google drivers (i am not sure if necessary), the 2.2 platform (api 8)
Under Win7 cmd in platform tools , adb shell , su and on device pops up 'unknown has been granted superuser rights' and voila! in cmd shell i have '#'.Previously installed Gingerbreak.
My device is a Cosmote Move.
Ya, no I got that file too. I think they are "consumer drivers" because like I said I got all the Alcatel tools running but on my win 7 one driver was still missing, and I have pretty good googlefu. effin hate windows, this is why. I'm by no means a "heavy" but I am comfortable in a Linux environment, that helps alot. As to you being able to get gingerbreak to work, i'd bet that comes down to carrier firmware.
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djada, seeing as your the op could you please re-tag the thread with the model numbers to make it easier to find? cosmote, 908, 908s, and qualcom should do.
perhaps a mod could move this thread to the android hacking forum where it can get the proper attention please?
ADB driver
Driver files are from WHATEVER.\android-sdk\extras\google\usb_driver\ , if does not install automatically , can be forced.Anyway Win$ux 7 detects ADB interface , installs some sh.t from windows update server , and you'll have an ADB interface in Device Manager (working or not).Try to force the google drivers.
On the other hand ,i'm sorry but dunno how to move the thread , maybe i should start a new one in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565&order=desc&page=552
Just looked at it and they don't have Alcatel
Mod
Just started workin on a Cyanogen build , if i manage to build at least a kernal img , maybe i can lure in the Koush guy from github.We are in need of flash , backup , recovery tools.Not as lucky as the Samsung or HTC guys ...
Hello people,
Background info what I did before problem arose:
I wanted to root my Desire Z, so I figured out what to do:
- downgrade android 2.3.3 to 2.2 using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 ; option 4a didn't work, bootloader didn't see PC10IMG.zip while it was on the SD card in root folder. Option 4b did work luckily.
- root desire Z via http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and made it to superCID, simlock off and S-OFF
So now I got a working Desire Z with android 2.2
Wish I stopped there...
I decided to try out android 4.2.1:
- I installed rom using http://genius-tips.com/update-htc-desire-z-to-android-4-2-1-jelly-bean-cm10-1-custom-rom/
It worked. I now have an Desire Z with android 4.2.1. But it was somewhat slowish so I decided I wanted my gingerbread back:
- I tried to install roms but somehow it didn't work, I kept my 4.2.1
- I followed the same steps I did to downgrade to 2.2 as described above, and it worked.
So I got a working Desire Z with android 2.2
- using HTC software update (settings -> about telephone -> software update) I download and install update 1
- download and install update 2
From here it gets interesting for this topic:
- download and install update 3, which is android 2.3; and during the install, while I still have my usb cable connected from laptop to telephone, my laptop battery runs out and update on telephone somehow fails (WTF, it is in charge only mode when it is installing right? The battery was full, or full enough, the telephone downloaded the update itself to SD-card or internal memory, so I assumed there was no connection.)
But now the Desire Z doesn't boot any more, it stays on the htc logo, without the 'quietly brilliant'.
- I tried via bootloader reset to factory defaults: vibrate, htc logo, image of telephone with green arrows above and loader below with image of SD-card on the right of loader. But loader doesn't progress and after some time telephone resets and stays at htc logo.
- I tried recovery via bootloader: vibrate, htc logo, and image of telephone with red exclamation mark and red triangle.
- no connection via sdk/adt.
I also tried to boot CyanogenMod 7.1 from SD-card using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572924 , but same result as above.
What can I do to save my Desire Z, other than replacing motherboard ?!
Please help...
The update failed being it was in the process of writing some firmware when you lost power, this tends to mean a partial update and a brick. The pc10img.zip you tried to flash before was not to be in any folder, so not a folder called root, rather no folder at all.
This may also be your salvation, maybe the only way of fixing, more info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33917375
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
Thanks, I will try it out this afternoon.
To clarify:
In order to downgrade to android 2.2 I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 in which is stated
I - 4a) Manual Downgrade
...
Desire Z: "PC10IMG.zip"
...
Place the zip file in the root of your sdcard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What does this mean if I am not supposed to have this file on my SD-card ? [edit: Or did my previous post suggest I had a folder called 'root' on my SD-card in which I had the zip?]
Second thing to clarify:
When my telephone has battery AND it is connected to my laptop (charge only I assume) AND my telephone is updating firmware from the SD-card/internal memory of the telephone; why would the telephone lose power / fail installation at the moment my PC tries to shut itself off because of low battery. Or is there something wrong in my assumptions?
Yeah I misunderstood ya, I thought you had a folder named root, if you did don't,
I must have been reading too fast I also thought you were doing an ruu through the computer not an ota update which is what you were doing, if that's the case the power loss on computer shouldn't have mattered unless there is some weird deal that I don't know about when charging through PC.
Can you confirm what is written on bootloader screen, radio, SPL, etc?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Sure, I posted it on the topic you recommended me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37613472 to continue there.
Conclusion:
Format SD card in FAT32 if it wasn't yet, then bootloader can read images again and flash ROMs. Then telephone is unbricked
Thanks.
I'm on a Japanese new phone which was never rooted (but sent to repair twice for bad front speaker/earpiece and motherboard)
It currently on Android version 5.0
Japanese version 2.15.40.13
The Phone doesnt connect to the PC, I've tried normal connection with windows explorer, tried the Asus application.
The phone either appears as empty or appears and then suddenly disappears, on and off. I can't even view the contents let alone copy/move/delete. (from the computer that is)
Is there another option to move files to the computer beside dropbox? which takes up my bandwidth and is kinda slow.
I've seen on ASUS site that there are 3 official 2.20.xxx versions yet my phone doesnt recognize anything when I press the CHECK FOR UPDATE.
Is there a way to update it without rooting ? and without doing a factory reset ?
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I've tried this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtQeVbKT6Zc
But I dont get the Update pop-up.
Also, Do I need to put the next available version, and update in order or just the newest/latest one ?
EDIT 2:
After a while I noticed that it didnt even copy the file to the phone.
When I connect the phone to my PC (windows 10) via USB 2.0 and/or 3.0 a folder called z00ad shows for a few sec. then disappeared.
I tried to several cables and ports.
sometimes it shows as an empty folder and sometimes I can see the folders inside but then it disappears and I get an error message.
I've got developer rights or access by tapping the kernel version.
I've enable the install by third parties option.
I've disabled the lock
disabled the screen off timer
Is it a Windows 10 thingy ? (I got the new Intel Driver for android)
EDIT 3:
Uploaded the file to Dropbox and downloaded on my phone, saved with ES File explorer to main directory, reset the phone, and now its updating. (UL-Z00A-JP-2.20.40.174-user)
When its done I will update for the next update (UL-Z00A-JP-2.20.40.183-user), and then the latest one (UL-Z00A-JP-2.20.40.185-user).
Hope Android 6 will arrive soon and that all of the problems are software related and not hardware...
Only trouble with this phone
EDIT 4:
Stuck on the INSTALLINg sYSTEM UPDATE... screen.
Its been like that for over 10 min. now, the blue progress line is stuck somewhere between the G and S (installinG System)
How long should I wait for it to finish? I saved the update file to the built-in memory, not the SD so speed shouldn't be an issue right ?
If its stuck what should I do ? Turn the phone off? Reset ? will I lose all of my files/photos?!
For this guy the problem solved itself after almost an hour...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/help/stuck-installing-update-t3151529
I will try to give it 2 and see how it goes
EDIT 5:
After almost 2 hours my phone was updated.
Yet still connection problems to the PC.
I'm trying the next Update, maybe it will fix this issue.
I've read online and I can't seem to find a solution.
I've tried different cables and connected to different USB slots but still, either I get no detection, or a detection with empty drive, or detection with external and internal memory but then it quickly disappears. The phone itself still keeps charging so it must be connected properly.
Has anyone else had this problem ? (I also had it while I was on Win 8.1, now win 10)
EDIT 6:
After doing the 3 available updates, manually... for around 6 hours ... I still cant connect the phone to the computer