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Helo All,
So I have a locked Desire Z from Bell, and I am with Bell. I dont really feel a need to change the Rom on my phone as I have no issues with it and am pretty happy with it.
My main thing that I would like to do though is remove the bloatware that Bell installed. Such as demos to games I care nothing about and also seem to find themself running in my Advanced Task Manager despite me never using them.
So I know that I can root the phone and uninstall them which is my main goal, I have been looking around and see multiple methods for rooting, with S-Off and such, so I was looking to see I truely need to go about it that way or should I just obtain root leave S-On and all that other jazz and just uninstall them.
So I welcome suggestions on how I can go about rooting my phone for my needs.
Thanks
I put together this guide that I pieced from this forum. Tried to make it really user friendly. I have the Bell Desire Z too.
http://androidforums.com/desire-z-all-things-root/233729-ultimate-guide-rooting-overclocking-your-bell-desire-z-newb-friendly.html
Nice guide, Will this work for European DZ also?
There are two methods of rooting. The first uses an app called Visionary to root, and the second uses a program called rage. There are guides on how to use both of these on this forum.
I recommend you look at this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390
That guide shows you how to root with Visionary (though you can substitute the rage method), and then to get S-OFF with gfree. The relatively "new" method of using gfree is very safe to use, and getting S-OFF will open up a lot more options to you than just root, e.g. the ability to flash custom recovery (so you can do a Nandroid backup of your phone) and to flash custom ROMs.
It's possible to undo all of this stuff should you ever need to do a warranty return. Although if you're going to flash a custom ROM, make sure you either have an RUU/ROM image for your stock ROM, or a Nandroid backup of your stock ROM to restore (because there aren't RUUs/ROM images available yet for all stock ROMs).
Hi
Let me open this thread by saying that I have just bricked a DHD yesterday. So I guess I was a bit unprepared. It was nice on part of the repair centre to replace it under warranty. (I dont think they knew, because the bloody thing won't even boot, no matter what you did.)
So, to tell you what I did yesterday, I followed this tutorial to root the Desire HD: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_HD:_Rooting
I was already on 1.32.405.6, so I didn't need to downgrade.
I then gained Temp root access and then perma root access, as per tutorial
I DID NOT Flash the Engineering HBOOT (since it said its optional). Should I have dont this if I was installing a custom ROM?
Then, I followed this tutorial for Flashing Cyanongen. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Ace:_Recovery,_Radio_and_CyanogenMod
Again, I did not Flash the radio. Is this absolutely necessary to flash a custom ROM ?
I successfully installed CM7 and booted. Then I decided to format the microSD card. It returned with a notification as, "Blank SD card" Clicking on the notificaiton would ask me to Format the card.Nothing happens.
I posted in another forum and someone asked if I made partitions ? This got me searching again and I then proceeded to make partitions with Clockwork Recover Manager
Another thing I want answered is if I should have created partitions on the microSD card or not ? At what stage should I create the partitions ?
What is the difference between ROM Manager and Clockwork Mod
Should I install a new kernel during Flashing ROM ?
I did a search via Google, There are hundreds of thousands of posts regarding rooting, but a lot of them use Visionary+ and then flash a ROM. I read earlier that this is not desirable. I can use adb on PC, no problem.
Any comprehensive definitive tutorial for rooting DHD and installing custom ROM
geek7899 said:
Hi
I posted in another forum and someone asked if I made partitions ? This got me searching again and I then proceeded to make partitions with Clockwork Recover Manager
Another thing I want answered is if I should have created partitions on the microSD card or not ? At what stage should I create the partitions ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043160
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043160
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11557769
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
Those should get you started.
Do not partition SD card, it is what caused your brick. Flashing ENG hboot is your own choice, you can choose to do it later with my one click tool (link in signature). It is not necessary to flash a custom ROM and/or radio. A ROM always comes with proper kernel, so you do not need to flash it separately. ROM Manager is just an interface for ClockworkMod, nothing more.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043160
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Ouuchhhhh .. came a day too late ....
I was one of the ones bricked
You cannot remove it. Just post something useful to general or discuss here. Koush is working on that recovery problem, but I would advice to stay away from the partitioning feature at all times.
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more questions after reading Guide
WOW ,,,, thanks guys ...
Just finished reading the [GUIDE]How to flash a ROM onto your DESIRE HD [COMPLETE]. Wheew....
Now I have more questions . Thanks to anyone who answers.
Here we go
1.) I have a Vodafone branded DHD, with a boot animation splash screen and useless apps. Will I need a goldcard ?
2.) Is it OK to use Visionary+ to perma root for flashing ROM's ? I had read on some forums where they didn't approve of this method. Rather they said, use the adb command prompt. The Cyanongen guide even says that if you have Visionary+ installed, uninstall it before rooting .... /confused/
3.) To put it crudely, Radio S-ON is like a security check to see if the approved apps/software are being installed. Is that correct ?
Then what is ENG S-ON ?
4.) When you do a Permanent root (by Visionary+ or adb command prompt), doesn;t it automatically set Radio S-OFF. If it does, then why do we need to do radio S-OFF as in using the tool ?
5.) I see you are not using ROM Manager for wiping cache etc. Instead you are using Full-Wipe 1.3. Is it better than using Clockwork Recovery for doing a wipe of cache ?
6.) The Radio S-OFF and simunlock tool. Can it lock my handset, since its already officially unlocked ?
7.) Why would I flash the Radio... (last step before Flashing ROM). Is it only for getting a /possible/ battery performance or network strength ? If it is not actually required for the actual Flashing of ROM, I might leave it out. Network is pretty ****ty here anyway
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
1. Yes
2. Sure it is, the guide in Cyanogen is a bit.. Weird.
3. No. S-OFF in general is a setting that allows you to write to the internal memory (read+write rights). It also disables some version checks and so on. ENG S-OFF is a special case which enables fastboot commands. Those allow you to flash radios, splash screens and such easily via USB connection.
4. S-OFF is WAY more serious mod (like god mode) than permanent root. Visionary only gives you root, which basically gives you rights to do more stuff in Android.
5. Nah, I do not personally use that wipe.zip. It is useless in my opinion The feature in cwm does pretty much the same.
6. It does not lock your device.
7. It is not entirely necessary. But if you have crappy network, it is a very good reason to flash a radio, which will improve your signal quality. My advice, flash it.
Some more questions posted in the DHD rooting/flashing thread. If anyone feels to answer them ,,,,,, thanks
over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13106095&postcount=128
Since I got my HTC wildfire late last year I've been following these forums and reading up on android terminology. Thanks to all those who warned me not to update my phone, I was so close to doing so however I believe that these can be rooted now. I've finally got annoyed with the shortage of memory on eclair and now that I have a bit more time over the summer I want to root it and so I have a few questions.
1) I know that to "unroot" I need to use an RUU. Looking on shipped roms, I can't see a vodafone uk eclair RUU, so which one would I use?
2) After creating a gold card, will you be able to use the sd card as normal (ie to store music, videos, photos, apps etc)
3) Looking around, there are many different recoveries in the development forum, I know that unevoked already comes with a recovery but should I use that one or another?
4) Has the switched off chargeing problem been fixed in clockwork recovery?
5) After rooting, I plan to install CM7. Does everything thing work properly in CM? (I ask this because a while back (before CM7) I read that that camara didn't work as well as stock and that the FM radio didn't work at all)
6) I know that there is official froyo apps 2 sd but I've seen other unofficial ones around. What are the differences between all of these and which one should I use?
7) I know that CM7 is a non-sense rom, I don't think I'll miss much of sense except the clock/weather widget. Is there anything available that is exactly like the htc clock/weather widget?
8) I know there are different radios around, will I need to update mine?
Thanks
1) maybe, depends on the method of rooting
2)yes you will be able to, the gold card only changed the hexcode inbiult, so you should be able to store things on the sd card
3)clockmod is the way to go for me, i had a htc desire and it worked brilliant for me.
4)if you dont want to use that version of clock mod you can also use a previous version which will do the same thing.
5)and when you install and download CM7, make sure you download the specific version form the websute for your device.
6)it doesnt really mater, its just moving the apps to the sd card form the phone, this is done by rooting it and gaining root acess.
7)an widget app similar to that is beautiful widgets ( i think you need to pay fro it but get it form 4shared or somewhere else) but they have most htc widgets, and MAYBE there might be ports in the future or have been done already.
8)it is recomended to upgrade your radio when you do your first root.
all information and downloads should be able to be downloaded i nthe index page of the forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
and ALL custom roms made my people are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822181
technolust109 said:
1) maybe, depends on the method of rooting
2)yes you will be able to, the gold card only changed the hexcode inbiult, so you should be able to store things on the sd card
3)clockmod is the way to go for me, i had a htc desire and it worked brilliant for me.
4)if you dont want to use that version of clock mod you can also use a previous version which will do the same thing.
5)and when you install and download CM7, make sure you download the specific version form the websute for your device.
6)it doesnt really mater, its just moving the apps to the sd card form the phone, this is done by rooting it and gaining root acess.
7)an widget app similar to that is beautiful widgets ( i think you need to pay fro it but get it form 4shared or somewhere else) but they have most htc widgets, and MAYBE there might be ports in the future or have been done already.
8)it is recomended to upgrade your radio when you do your first root.
all information and downloads should be able to be downloaded i nthe index page of the forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
and ALL custom roms made my people are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822181
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1) My method of rooting would be unevoked
4) What version of clockmod would you recommend?
8) Is updating the radio risky? and can you undo it if needed?
any answers?
Also I got one more question,
When should I create a gold card, before/after root? or after flashing a new rom?
Thanks in advance
1) You are on Eclair, in which case you can only go with Unrevoked. No other alternative, so, there are no issues there.
4) There are essentially two versions - 2.x and 3.x, and, honestly, you will want to keep both, because 2.x supports flashing of Radios and Froyo ROMs, and 3.x supports flashing Gingerbread ROMs. What you can do is when using Unrevoked, Select Custom Recovery Image, and Point it to a 3.x Recovery File. This way, your primary Recovery will be 3.x. Then, download ROM Manager from the Market, Select Install Clockworkmod Recovery from within that app, and it will install 2.x on your SDCard (Secondary Recovery). So, essentially, you have both.
8) Radio flashing is not risky per se, but, you have got to be careful and follow basics like not interrupting the process, making sure you have sufficient battery charge etc. because, mistakes here can brick your phone. You cant "undo" it but you can flash your old radio version again.
- Goldcard is only needed when flashing an RUU. If you are simply rooting using Unrevoked and installing Custom ROMs, you dont need one.
lastly, make sure you use an old version of Unrevoked, (3.14 upto 3.21), not the latest.
Thanks for your amazing post
Could I ask why an old version of unrevoked is needed?
Where can I get an old version from as when I click on wildfire on the unrevoked website it gives me v3.32
Rooted but....
hi. i just got a htc wildfire and i want to install cyanogen mod. I already rooted my phone using alpharevX and got the S-OFF message. But when i install ROM manager and tried to install CN7 i got the message " An error occured while attempting to run privileged commands". Is there something wrong or something that i missed?
S-OFF =/= rooting.
fireice7 said:
Thanks for your amazing post
Could I ask why an old version of unrevoked is needed?
Where can I get an old version from as when I click on wildfire on the unrevoked website it gives me v3.32
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The newer version actually lowers compatibility with the Wildfire, rather than raising it. You are bound to get some error or other, unless extremely lucky. (And the most common one would be "Firmware too new?" error).
Just try searching the Wildfire Forum for links. Many have uploaded 3.14, but unfortunately, the posts are all scattered somewhere.
EDIT:, NVM, You can get it here:
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/recovery/3.14/reflash_package.exe
There is also clockworkmod 4.x should I use that?
and
Which method would you recommend for flashing new roms, via rom manager or recovery?
Thanks for all your help
Yes, you can. Although I am still sticking with 3.1.0.2, because of two reasons - laziness and a few reports by users which suggest some problems with 4.x. Compatibility between 3.x and 4.x is the same though - ie. you can only install Gingerbread ROMs on them.
Also, personally, I prefer flashing ROMs through Recovery, rather than ROM Manager.
If you are S-OFF, you can stay on CWM 3 and use the PC49IMG.zip file to flash a radio. Simply put inside the android-info.txt from a RUU and the radio.img you want to flash, then reboot under HBOOT.
So, I've got root with Weaksauce. and I've tried to S-off with Firewater, but it just stops working around the second bottle. I've tried looking for a way to unlock the bootloader, but haven't found anything for verizon. I'm not even sure if I need bootloader unlocked though. I just want to flash a custom Sense 6 or Google edition ROM to my phone, but having Verizon and being stupid and doing the OTA KitKat update, I'm finding it insanely difficult.
Any advice you have, or links, would be very highly appreciated.
Linktolegend said:
So, I've got root with Weaksauce. and I've tried to S-off with Firewater, but it just stops working around the second bottle. I've tried looking for a way to unlock the bootloader, but haven't found anything for verizon. I'm not even sure if I need bootloader unlocked though. I just want to flash a custom Sense 6 or Google edition ROM to my phone, but having Verizon and being stupid and doing the OTA KitKat update, I'm finding it insanely difficult.
Any advice you have, or links, would be very highly appreciated.
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I'm sure the advanced users are going to ask you for more information (logs, screen prints, etc). I am also assuming that you have the M7VZW and not another phone (like AT&T's or a global phone).
I'll start with that you should be sure that you installed weaksauce properly and have root.
With Firewater, I found the instructions on the firewater site to be more than adequate to get S-Off next.
http://firewater-soff.com/instructions/ I followed the normal rooted device method.
From there, I installed the custom recovery (TWRP 2.7.0.0) Make sure you use Santod040's version if you are installing one of his ROM's.
I used the fastboot instructions on the TWRP site.
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/164
I also found this guide on installing the recovery to be invaluable
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-flash-a-custom-recovery-like-CWM-or-TWRP-on-Android_id53914
With the custom recovery, I created a backup first and then did a wipe. From there, I installed the ROM using TWRP. It was all good from there.
In addition to the above, GrayTheWolf's videos were a big help.
Hope this helps.
Hey guys, I'm just curious as to how come there's no 4ext recovery for the M8
And I'd also like to ask what's the procedure to making or porting a recovery (cause I'm absolutely clueless) A link to it would do fine.
I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge but here's what I gathered so far from owning an HTC Amaze 4g
4ext allows the flashing of a boot partition via SmartFlash, which can be enabled and disabled accordingly.
I think it was extra useful for those who couldn't achieve S-OFF with JuopunutBear
So I'm thinking (More like assuming) the S-OFF function is still the same.
That's basically why I'm asking if having a recovery such as 4ext on the M8 would help those who can't get S-OFF to flash roms that might need it.
I can't speak from experience because I was successful in getting S-OFF on my Amaze4G but there were some people who claimed that it allowed them to flash roms that required S-OFF
You can flash the boot.img without issues, this isn't the old One X issue!!
We also have a different S-OFF method to the old days so TWRP is the custom recovery of choice these days