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[Q] Flashing a ROM, it's been a while...

Hi, I have posted this before but it got deleted because I very stupidly posted it in the wrong place.
My question has been answered before due to searching but no one else happens to be in my EXACT situation and I don't want to mess up my phone.
Basically my Desire HD is rooted etc and I want to flash the Android Revolution ROM, but I havent flashed any ROM's since my OLD G1 and now everyone talks about S-OFF etc and I don't understand these, on my G1 it was simply rooting and flashing a Recovery and then flashing a ROM, so basically what do I need to flash this ROM
My situation:
I am running the stock ROM (permroot on 1.32.405.6)
I have stock radio
I have Clockwork mod 3.0.0.6
and Buzz Sense 1.3 + OC (OC'd 1.6Ghz) kernel.
(+Ever since I downgraded from 1.72 I have lost wi-fi, it connected to my wi-fi but I get no internet access through it, its definitely a problem with the phone and nothing else because I have tested my router etc, all my other devices have connectivity through my router)

We all were in your exact situation. The Desire HD employs an extra level of security to prevent users messing with their handsets, S-ON.
You need to turn this off, Ideally ENG (Engineering) S-OFF, before you can make persistent changes to your system.
Have a read through the very helpful guides in the Dev section. They also contain the tools you need. Turning S-OFF should be a one time process only, i.e once you've done it there is no need to repeat it to flash another ROM.
Hope that helps.

andyharney said:
We all were in your exact situation. The Desire HD employs an extra level of security to prevent users messing with their handsets, S-ON.
You need to turn this off, Ideally ENG (Engineering) S-OFF, before you can make persistent changes to your system.
Have a read through the very helpful guides in the Dev section. They also contain the tools you need. Turning S-OFF should be a one time process only, i.e once you've done it there is no need to repeat it to flash another ROM.
Hope that helps.
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Sorry I forgot to mention that I have SHIP S-OFF and I'm unable to get ENG S-OFF because when I used the Easy S-OFF tool it can only give me SHIP S-OFF for some reason, I cant do anything now since its incompatible with my kernel as well. Can I flash a ROM with just SHIP S-OFF? I don't want to flash any radios because I bricked my G1 about 4 million times when flashing radios.

It you run a 1.32 WWE RUU and revert back to stock you can then reapply ENG S-OFF. A bit of a ball ache I know.
Most ROMs will work just fine with SHIP S-OFF but ENG is usually preferred.
To flash a radio you need Radio S-OFF another beast entirely. However there is a very good too to do it with. No bricks so far and your DHD will then have super CID and be SIM unlocked.

didge3 said:
Sorry I forgot to mention that I have SHIP S-OFF and I'm unable to get ENG S-OFF because when I used the Easy S-OFF tool it can only give me SHIP S-OFF for some reason, I cant do anything now since its incompatible with my kernel as well..
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Just tick the "I have radio s-off" box and it becomes compatible with everything.

follow my guide in the sig and skip to eng s-off and radio s-off part, or skip to whatever comes next if you've already done them

Tried that, I get a "Connection Error", I have made sure its fully connected as "Disk Drive" and I allow the Super User request when I do it, but it still doesn't work, plus the radio tool just says "Incompatible kernel" - or something like that.
I mainly want to know, can I flash Android Revolution in my current situation, can I flash with just SHIP S-OFF and my current kernel, or do I have to go back to stock kernel, flash the ROM and then flash my kernel back?
and why should I have ENG S-OFF, if it makes a lot of difference I will give it ago, but I mainly want to just flash this ROM to see if it fixes my wifi issue and my camera doesn't drop so many frames! (known issue in 1.32, fixed in 1.7X)

Disk Drive. Yeah, read the guide again more carefully, mate... And change the tool, why are you using easy radio tool!? It won't give you ENG S-OFF. My ENG S-OFF tool will give you that. And it most definitely will not say incompatible kernel if you just tick the box I talked about.
You can flash ARHD now. Do not mess around with it's kernel after flashing, because it comes with the best kernel out there. The kernel has been made to fit ARHD's needs.

jkoljo said:
Disk Drive. Yeah, read the guide again more carefully, mate... And change the tool, why are you using easy radio tool!? It won't give you ENG S-OFF. My ENG S-OFF tool will give you that. And it most definitely will not say incompatible kernel if you just tick the box I talked about.
You can flash ARHD now. Do not mess around with it's kernel after flashing, because it comes with the best kernel out there. The kernel has been made to fit ARHD's needs.
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I get the same as every other time, downloads the Easy S-OFF tool, "Pushing stuff to SD" Phone says "Unknown has been granted su access" and then the tool says "Error: Connection Problem!" - I get this every time, I have tried re-downloading this software every time, removing the "Unknown" in super user and then re-allowing it when it asks, I still get the same error...
Does it matter that I'm using Windows 7 64-bit?
EDIT: I think I've done it now, I downloaded the latest 2.3 SDK (I had 2.2) which updated my ADB drives, I didn't get the error this time, will boot into H-BOOT and check now.

Are you still using that disk drive mode? Because you should not.

THANKS
I have thanked everyones post, I can confirm my H-BOOT Now says PVT ENG S-OFF, one last thing, I'm all good to flash now? I can just put the ROM (sense version) on my SD card and flash it in CWM, with my current kernel, even though it will over write it with the one included for Android Revolution, I dont have to go back to stock kernel or anything first right?
Thanks again

Have you flashed ClockworkMod Recovery yet? If not download ROM Manager from the Market and flash it from there.
Once that is complete, download ROM, put on SD Card, Recovery, Wipe, Flash, Enjoy.

didge3 said:
Hi, I have posted this before but it got deleted because I very stupidly posted it in the wrong place.
My question has been answered before due to searching but no one else happens to be in my EXACT situation and I don't want to mess up my phone.
Basically my Desire HD is rooted etc and I want to flash the Android Revolution ROM, but I havent flashed any ROM's since my OLD G1 and now everyone talks about S-OFF etc and I don't understand these, on my G1 it was simply rooting and flashing a Recovery and then flashing a ROM, so basically what do I need to flash this ROM
My situation:
I am running the stock ROM (permroot on 1.32.405.6)
I have stock radio
I have Clockwork mod 3.0.0.6
and Buzz Sense 1.3 + OC (OC'd 1.6Ghz) kernel.
(+Ever since I downgraded from 1.72 I have lost wi-fi, it connected to my wi-fi but I get no internet access through it, its definitely a problem with the phone and nothing else because I have tested my router etc, all my other devices have connectivity through my router)
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andyharney said:
Have you flashed ClockworkMod Recovery yet? If not download ROM Manager from the Market and flash it from there.
Once that is complete, download ROM, put on SD Card, Recovery, Wipe, Flash, Enjoy.
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Note the very first post "Clockword mod 3.0.0.6" so in answer, yes.

Your good to go then, happy flashing.

[Q] questions about Rooting and Custom ROMs

helllooo there people of the XDA world.
i've rooted my phone and im using the stock htc ROM.
now i've got a few questions.
1) (although its too late to ask this question) - can i reverse the downgrading and rooting? i had a 1.75 firmware with 2.2.1(froyo). now i have a rooted 1.32 with 2.2(froyo). can i go back?
2) if i install a custom ROM, can i also do what i said in question 1?
3) i have ROM Manager installed, and when one first installs it, (s)he's suppose to choose the 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery' option. Problem is, i've pressed this option and it says it can't connect to server!
i've tried it with my carriers internet and with WIFI, but it keeps saying it. does the country you're in matter? (maybe they're blocking certain IP addresses).
3.5) if there is no solution to question 3. is there a manual way to 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery'?
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You need Eng S-OFF to flash CWM, I'm assuming you only have root. Check this guide.

CodeNameUnknown1 said:
helllooo there people of the XDA world.
i've rooted my phone and im using the stock htc ROM.
now i've got a few questions.
1) (although its too late to ask this question) - can i reverse the downgrading and rooting? i had a 1.75 firmware with 2.2.1(froyo). now i have a rooted 1.32 with 2.2(froyo). can i go back?
YES, just flash an older version, or go back to your backup-rom (also called NANDROID) you should always backup first when installing a new rom, you can do this easily in the ClockworkMod Recovery
2) if i install a custom ROM, can i also do what i said in question 1?
YES, same answer as for question 1
3) i have ROM Manager installed, and when one first installs it, (s)he's suppose to choose the 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery' option. Problem is, i've pressed this option and it says it can't connect to server!
i've tried it with my carriers internet and with WIFI, but it keeps saying it. does the country you're in matter? (maybe they're blocking certain IP addresses).
Read the post above from Letom, that'll do the trick
3.5) if there is no solution to question 3. is there a manual way to 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery'?
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Hope this helps, answers are in your quote

@letom: na, i have Eng S-OFF, but i didnt know about that post ... so thanks!
@Enjoy!: regarding the answer to question 1 -> my FW 1.75, and 2.2.1 OS wants rooted ofc, and thus i didnt do a nandroid....and also after downgrading .. i also didnt do a nandroid.
But im not taking about going back to a fresh 1.32 ROM (thats what i'd have if i restored using nandroid), im talking about going back to the stock ROM i had when i first brought the phone! the 1.75 FM with 2.2.1 Android OS. Can i go back to that?
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and say i didnt do a nandroid, and my phone gets damaged, ... , couldnt i just go to the bootloader and install PD98IMG.zip file and go back to my 1.32 non-rooted phone?

i went to the guide #letom gave me, and i downloaded it, went into bootloader, i choose the fastboot and click the .bat file in Windows.
command prompt came up and dissapeared in a flash...the phone restarted, and still, nothing ... although the download is v3.0.2.4, my ROM Manager is v3.0.1.4. so it didnt update ... any ideas?

[Q] Questions about rooting

Since I got my HTC wildfire late last year I've been following these forums and reading up on android terminology. Thanks to all those who warned me not to update my phone, I was so close to doing so however I believe that these can be rooted now. I've finally got annoyed with the shortage of memory on eclair and now that I have a bit more time over the summer I want to root it and so I have a few questions.
1) I know that to "unroot" I need to use an RUU. Looking on shipped roms, I can't see a vodafone uk eclair RUU, so which one would I use?
2) After creating a gold card, will you be able to use the sd card as normal (ie to store music, videos, photos, apps etc)
3) Looking around, there are many different recoveries in the development forum, I know that unevoked already comes with a recovery but should I use that one or another?
4) Has the switched off chargeing problem been fixed in clockwork recovery?
5) After rooting, I plan to install CM7. Does everything thing work properly in CM? (I ask this because a while back (before CM7) I read that that camara didn't work as well as stock and that the FM radio didn't work at all)
6) I know that there is official froyo apps 2 sd but I've seen other unofficial ones around. What are the differences between all of these and which one should I use?
7) I know that CM7 is a non-sense rom, I don't think I'll miss much of sense except the clock/weather widget. Is there anything available that is exactly like the htc clock/weather widget?
8) I know there are different radios around, will I need to update mine?
Thanks

1) maybe, depends on the method of rooting
2)yes you will be able to, the gold card only changed the hexcode inbiult, so you should be able to store things on the sd card
3)clockmod is the way to go for me, i had a htc desire and it worked brilliant for me.
4)if you dont want to use that version of clock mod you can also use a previous version which will do the same thing.
5)and when you install and download CM7, make sure you download the specific version form the websute for your device.
6)it doesnt really mater, its just moving the apps to the sd card form the phone, this is done by rooting it and gaining root acess.
7)an widget app similar to that is beautiful widgets ( i think you need to pay fro it but get it form 4shared or somewhere else) but they have most htc widgets, and MAYBE there might be ports in the future or have been done already.
8)it is recomended to upgrade your radio when you do your first root.
all information and downloads should be able to be downloaded i nthe index page of the forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
and ALL custom roms made my people are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822181

technolust109 said:
1) maybe, depends on the method of rooting
2)yes you will be able to, the gold card only changed the hexcode inbiult, so you should be able to store things on the sd card
3)clockmod is the way to go for me, i had a htc desire and it worked brilliant for me.
4)if you dont want to use that version of clock mod you can also use a previous version which will do the same thing.
5)and when you install and download CM7, make sure you download the specific version form the websute for your device.
6)it doesnt really mater, its just moving the apps to the sd card form the phone, this is done by rooting it and gaining root acess.
7)an widget app similar to that is beautiful widgets ( i think you need to pay fro it but get it form 4shared or somewhere else) but they have most htc widgets, and MAYBE there might be ports in the future or have been done already.
8)it is recomended to upgrade your radio when you do your first root.
all information and downloads should be able to be downloaded i nthe index page of the forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
and ALL custom roms made my people are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822181
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1) My method of rooting would be unevoked
4) What version of clockmod would you recommend?
8) Is updating the radio risky? and can you undo it if needed?

any answers?
Also I got one more question,
When should I create a gold card, before/after root? or after flashing a new rom?
Thanks in advance

1) You are on Eclair, in which case you can only go with Unrevoked. No other alternative, so, there are no issues there.
4) There are essentially two versions - 2.x and 3.x, and, honestly, you will want to keep both, because 2.x supports flashing of Radios and Froyo ROMs, and 3.x supports flashing Gingerbread ROMs. What you can do is when using Unrevoked, Select Custom Recovery Image, and Point it to a 3.x Recovery File. This way, your primary Recovery will be 3.x. Then, download ROM Manager from the Market, Select Install Clockworkmod Recovery from within that app, and it will install 2.x on your SDCard (Secondary Recovery). So, essentially, you have both.
8) Radio flashing is not risky per se, but, you have got to be careful and follow basics like not interrupting the process, making sure you have sufficient battery charge etc. because, mistakes here can brick your phone. You cant "undo" it but you can flash your old radio version again.
- Goldcard is only needed when flashing an RUU. If you are simply rooting using Unrevoked and installing Custom ROMs, you dont need one.
lastly, make sure you use an old version of Unrevoked, (3.14 upto 3.21), not the latest.

Thanks for your amazing post
Could I ask why an old version of unrevoked is needed?
Where can I get an old version from as when I click on wildfire on the unrevoked website it gives me v3.32

Rooted but....
hi. i just got a htc wildfire and i want to install cyanogen mod. I already rooted my phone using alpharevX and got the S-OFF message. But when i install ROM manager and tried to install CN7 i got the message " An error occured while attempting to run privileged commands". Is there something wrong or something that i missed?

S-OFF =/= rooting.

fireice7 said:
Thanks for your amazing post
Could I ask why an old version of unrevoked is needed?
Where can I get an old version from as when I click on wildfire on the unrevoked website it gives me v3.32
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The newer version actually lowers compatibility with the Wildfire, rather than raising it. You are bound to get some error or other, unless extremely lucky. (And the most common one would be "Firmware too new?" error).
Just try searching the Wildfire Forum for links. Many have uploaded 3.14, but unfortunately, the posts are all scattered somewhere.
EDIT:, NVM, You can get it here:
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/recovery/3.14/reflash_package.exe

There is also clockworkmod 4.x should I use that?
and
Which method would you recommend for flashing new roms, via rom manager or recovery?
Thanks for all your help

Yes, you can. Although I am still sticking with 3.1.0.2, because of two reasons - laziness and a few reports by users which suggest some problems with 4.x. Compatibility between 3.x and 4.x is the same though - ie. you can only install Gingerbread ROMs on them.
Also, personally, I prefer flashing ROMs through Recovery, rather than ROM Manager.

If you are S-OFF, you can stay on CWM 3 and use the PC49IMG.zip file to flash a radio. Simply put inside the android-info.txt from a RUU and the radio.img you want to flash, then reboot under HBOOT.

[Q] HTC Wildfire Root

Greetings to all.
I ve tried everything possible way to root my phone (ver 2.2.1) (unrevoked, z4root) and i still cant do anything.
Is anything can help with that?
Sorry if a silly question but im waiting a serious answer.

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paramedic21 said:
Greetings to all.
I ve tried everything possible way to root my phone (ver 2.2.1) (unrevoked, z4root) and i still cant do anything.
Is anything can help with that?
Sorry if a silly question but im waiting a serious answer.
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You really need to search this forum first! Anyway, I'll make it easy for you this time.
If you have the HTC stock ROM v2.2.1 and your phone is network branded then you most likely have HBOOT 1.01.0002 which means that the standard rooting methods will not work unless you do this first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132028
After you do that, which downgrades your HBOOT from 1.01.0002 to 1.01.0001 you'll have to use Revolutionary to S-OFF you phone. At the end, the Revolutionary process will ask you if you want to install a recovery. Make sure that you DO!
Option 1. If you want to stay with the stock ROM then you also need to do the next step:
After that you need to put the zip file attached (see end of this post) on you SD card, boot your phone into recovery and install that zip from your SD card to gain ROOT. Afterwards you'll probably also want to go onto the Market to download BusyBox and install it in both possible locations, i.e. system/bin AND system/xbin - diferent programs look for BusyBox at different locations.​
Option 2. Otherwise, you can just put your favourite custom ROM zip on your SD card, boot into recovery, do a 'Wipe/factory reset' and then install the custom ROM zip.
NOTE: This will NOT unlock your phone if it is network locked! You will be rooted and be able to install custom ROMs, etc. but you will STILL be network locked!

paramedic21 said:
Greetings to all.
I ve tried everything possible way to root my phone (ver 2.2.1) (unrevoked, z4root) and i still cant do anything.
Is anything can help with that?
Sorry if a silly question but im waiting a serious answer.
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what ways have you tried?

[Q] Complete noob humbly asking for help

Hey guys,
I've been around the Defy forum for quite a while now; however, my Desire is back from the dead and now my beloved
Motorola Defy is retired, which means that I'll be getting to know this forum instead!
Right now I have absolutely nothing. Just a TELUS Desire GSM on 2.2 stock froyo. Can someone point me in the right
direction for rooting and S-OFF? Do I need to unlock my bootloader as well for most ROMs?
I have this ROM in mind:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980122
Everything is pretty straightforward except for a few things:
Someone PLEASE help me, but I'm not going to be demanding or anything. So help me if you can.
1. How the hell did you guys end up with, like, 10 different recoveries and HBOOTs? I've heard CM7R2, stock, Amon RA, among others.
Someone can clarify this?
2. I don't get the partition things at all. For the above ROM what do I need?
3. And just how to root and S-OFF and unlock BL if I need to...
4. A simple procedure for all this maybe?:silly:
5. A simple explanation on how HBOOT and recovery and custom recovery work? On the Defy, we had a 2nd-init and 2nd-boot that basically
launched a custom ROM and kernel on top of stock because the bootloader was locked down. The CWM recovery was accessible from the bootmenu, which was in turn launched by pressing volume-down at the blue LED halfway through boot.
6. Last and not most important does the ROM above (Cooldroid Revolution 9.0) have working Wifi? It says it's "fast, smooth and stable" but...
Thanks so much.

Soooo...
Welcome to the Desire forums.
You should start by ignoring anything that has to do with the Defy. You don't need to unlock the bootloader.
Now, let's start with s-off.
Follow this tutorial Long link, and ignore step 2.
After you're s-off, you should install 4ext recovery. It's the best recovery for the Desire.
In this guide, you will install 4ext, and create an ext partition on your sd-card. The partition is allocated for more internal memory (more apps).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Read every guide carefully. You will learn a lot.
After you did those things, you can install a custom ROM. I don't recommend you use the one you mentioned as a daily one. It's still a work in progress, and has a lot of bugs.
There are many hboots. When you change hboot, you change the way the internal memory is partitioned.
For example, the cm7r2 hboot has a smaller system allocated space than the stock hboot.
You usually change hboots to get more app space.

Thanks!
But what about root? What tool should I use?
Edit: never mind, I saw the guide link in your signature
I'll get back to you when I'm done rooting. Fingers crossed.

You will root it when you either install a custom rom, or install the supersu zip.

So I read up on some guides that told me to use unrevoked, so I have this reflash_package.exe ready to go. I've uninstalled HTC sync because unrevoked tells me to.
Just one question: I can only use CWM recovery if using unrevoked? That's the default, and only recovery available with it. Can I just download the 4EXTRecoveryUpdater.apk later and change it to 4ext recovery?
If I end up somehow with a ROM that does not boot, how do I fix it? Flash an original RUU?

Why didn't you just listen to me? You don't need unrevoked.
Did you backup before flashing a rom? If you did, then restore it..
Flash another rom, or flash the 2.3 ruu.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Why didn't you just listen to me? You don't need unrevoked.
Did you backup before flashing a rom? If you did, then restore it..
Flash another rom, or flash the 2.3 ruu.
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I did it! Thank you so much for helping me, despite all my noobiness in this forum.
I'm running Cooldroid Revolution 9.0 now. Again, thanks so much. About 7 hours later after I started reading up
and working with my Desire, I've learned a lot of things about S-OFF and HBOOT and EXT4.
I did a nandroid backup of my original 2.2 ROM before I formatted my SD card and it's backed up on my new
fat32 and my desktop as well. I guess I'm safe for now.
Oh and one more thing, are RUUs like a last-ditch attempt to save your phone? I remember there was a 2.3 RUU upgrade
that came in the form of an .exe and you just needed to plug your phone in, the .exe would do all the upgrading stuff for you.

Yeah. Ruu's are usually the last things that can save your roms.

Even noobier
I am even more of a noob than anyone else I've seen on here.
I am a college student, and I'm considered the best programmer in my class, so I was hired by my school to develop a mobile app for the admissions department. One of my classmates already developed one for apple, but he graduated, so my job is to create one for Android. They are fully aware that mobile app development is not taught here, and none of the people I will be working with knows anything about it either, so it is going to be interesting, to say the least.
My best language is C#, so Java should be no problem, but I am completely at a loss as to where to start. All the app development information I've been able to find is geared toward Ice Cream Sandwich, but I want to make sure my app works on Gingerbread because of its huge market share, plus anything newer.
I've looked at the "beginners" threads on here but I don't understand even half of what people are saying (I speak geek but it's a completely different dialect lol). Is there a resource somewhere where a good C#, Visual Basic, and SQL programmer can teach herself something completely new, and do it right?

Try this guide:
http://developer.android.com/training/index.html

Thanks, I will look into that
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