Worth rooting and roming? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Hey everyone, I just got a nexus 7 2013 today, it's the 16GB model, and it was only £100, so I'm pretty pleased at that, it's running 6.0, the performance is great, but now, after even a day of use I have already been looking into rooting and ROMing it, I'm slightly hesitant to do so however.
Will there be a massive change in performance? If so, what ROM should I go for? I'd really like some suggestions please, and also if someone could point me to a guide to help me root and ROM it, that would be absolutely fantastic. I really don't want to f*ck up this tablet, so could someone please give me some advice. Also I'm not a rookie at custom firmware and all, I've had numerous devices but this is the first one I'm slightly concerned about moding as it comes with no warranty as it's a refurbished unit :/ .
Thanks all
P.S. I realise after reading around that I've posted this in the wrong section....Whoops sorry

Stock 6.0 runs great. I root to block ads thats it.
When official support stops I'll go with something else but right now there's no need.
You're unlikely to **** it up if you read first so try whatever you like. Just make a nandroid first.

I stay stock in my N7 2013 LTE with root + xposed + elemental kernel

After trying many roms, I finally settled on Slimkat. Fantastic performance, incredibly stable, etc.

@ssenemosewa you prefer KitKat over MM ?
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pk-sanja said:
@ssenemosewa you prefer KitKat over MM ?
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Yup, just as I prefer Windows 7 over Windows 10 and my 2009 Toyota Corolla over the later models.
I've tried pretty much everything on my Nexus 7. And every time, I came back to KitKat. IMHO, it offers the best performance, best battery life, most stability, and best functionality for what I want my tablet to be able to do.
Marshmallow, as far as my experience goes, certainly lives up to its name. It made my Nexus 7 feel like I dropped it into this sweet, sticky, gooey mess that, while tasting good for a moment or too, just became too tough to chew for any length of time.

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[Q] New to the Nexus Scene: Battery and ROM

Hi there,
I recently purchased a used Galaxy Nexus from eBay after having seen the good spec and for the low price. I have a few questions before I receive the phone and I'd like to know what ROM would be the best to use, I have seen a stable Cyanogenmod is this the best? Also, I have seen some questions around issues on battery life, has anyone using this ROM had any problems and if so what advice could you give?
I have previously owned the Orange SF 1 and 2 and was not satisfied with battery life after having changed the ROM etc. and I don't want to have those issues with this phone. So, I appreciate any help I can get with my questions, thanks!!
Every single rom I've used has pretty much been the same with battery. The battery on the galaxy nexus isn't the best. That's how it was built. No rom is going to magically make it better. Any difference in battery you get will be minimal and depend more on how you use your phone. I suggest try out some ROM and kernel combinations and see what works for you. There are plenty to chose from and honestly, they are all good. You aren't going to get one single answer from everyone here.
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Every single rom I've used has pretty much been the same with battery. The battery on the galaxy nexus isn't the best. That's how it was built. No rom is going to magically make it better. Any difference in battery you get will be minimal and depend more on how you use your phone. I suggest try out some ROM and kernel combinations and see what works for you. There are plenty to chose from and honestly, they are all good. You aren't going to get one single answer from everyone here.
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Thanks for your reply. All right, does the battery for you last on a day to day basis? I don't want to mess about with ROMs too much, I am looking for that one ROM that would be most stable and I won't have to change. What is the stock Android like on the Nexus, also I have seen "PARANOIDANDROID" to be very popular so is that good, what do you use? Thanks again!
Nifty3 said:
Thanks for your reply. All right, does the battery for you last on a day to day basis? I don't want to mess about with ROMs too much, I am looking for that one ROM that would be most stable and I won't have to change. What is the stock Android like on the Nexus, also I have seen "PARANOIDANDROID" to be very popular so is that good, what do you use? Thanks again!
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I am not one to answer these questions. I work at a desk all day with a charger in my phone pretty much the whole day so battery has never been an issue. But if you arent doing a lot to your phone all day like streaming music and movies and gaming then you should be fine. As for your other question, I have been on a different ROM every week since 4.3 came out. lol. All of them are nice and smooth and good ROMs. If you like a lot of features, go with Paranoid Android. If you like minimal stock go with Cyanogenmod or any other AOSP ROM. Stock isnt all that bad either though. Its like I said, try some out and find what you like. As long as you know what you are doing, you shouldnt have any problems flashing a bunch of stuff. Thats the fun part anyway.
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I am not one to answer these questions. I work at a desk all day with a charger in my phone pretty much the whole day so battery has never been an issue. But if you arent doing a lot to your phone all day like streaming music and movies and gaming then you should be fine. As for your other question, I have been on a different ROM every week since 4.3 came out. lol. All of them are nice and smooth and good ROMs. If you like a lot of features, go with Paranoid Android. If you like minimal stock go with Cyanogenmod or any other AOSP ROM. Stock isnt all that bad either though. Its like I said, try some out and find what you like. As long as you know what you are doing, you shouldnt have any problems flashing a bunch of stuff. Thats the fun part anyway.
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All right, okay. Thanks a lot for your answers, you've helped a lot and I will try different the two ROM's when I get my Galaxy Nexus later today. I am liking Paranoid Android so far but I can see its got quite a few versions, is the latest one 3.97 stable? Sorry for all the questions, I really appreciate you taking time to answer them.
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All right, okay. Thanks a lot for your answers, you've helped a lot and I will try different the two ROM's when I get my Galaxy Nexus later today. I am liking Paranoid Android so far but I can see its got quite a few versions, is the latest one 3.97 stable? Sorry for all the questions, I really appreciate you taking time to answer them.
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Higher number means newer version..
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Higher number means newer version..
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Lol I know that, I was asking if the latest version 3.97 was stable or not. Got my Galaxy Nexus today and its on stock 4.2.2, so going to try a few ROM's later on to get it to 4.3 just wanted to know about the stability of Paranoid Android.
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Lol I know that, I was asking if the latest version 3.97 was stable or not. Got my Galaxy Nexus today and its on stock 4.2.2, so going to try a few ROM's later on to get it to 4.3 just wanted to know about the stability of Paranoid Android.
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I cant think of any unstable ROMs that we have. The good thing about the Galaxy Nexus is that the developers dont have to do any workarounds to get things working. Its a completely unlocked phone with all the tools for developing available for them. So all the ROMs that are made pretty much have everything working in it.
EDIT: Oh, and just make sure you use the ROM that is made for your device. If you have the unlocked GSM version, you need ROMs made for "Maguro".
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I cant think of any unstable ROMs that we have. The good thing about the Galaxy Nexus is that the developers dont have to do any workarounds to get things working. Its a completely unlocked phone with all the tools for developing available for them. So all the ROMs that are made pretty much have everything working in it.
EDIT: Oh, and just make sure you use the ROM that is made for your device. If you have the unlocked GSM version, you need ROMs made for "Maguro".
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Thanks a lot for all your help! Since, I have installed Cyanogenmod and stuck to Android 4.2, as ParanoidAndroid wasn't for me. I have also used the Touchwiz UI and it looks great. The battery life I am happy with it even though it does go down a little more than average, but it's fine for me. Thanks again, great phone!

It's been fun..

I know I've only had this phone a year, but I'm soon selling it as I'm buying a OnePlus One once it is up for preorder. Some of the reasons I'm selling the phone are; Poor LG updates; not so great custom ROM support, thanks to everyone that made them though; not much activity in the forums anymore and lastly, its just getting slower as Android gets newer. Maybe some of you are upgrading soon, if so what are you getting?
I've done the same upgrade as you are doing. Had the optimus g for a year and a half. Great phone however battery life is disappointing and the occasional BSOD is quite annoying so I now have the oneplus one. Great phone just bear in mind it is a huge phone (same size as the iPhone 6 bendy)
>Poor LG updates
S3 didn't even get 4.4
>not so great custom ROM support
Most popular ROMs out there are ported. They work fine and has everything you'll ever need. Personally I found no problem with ROM support.
>its just getting slower as Android gets newer
Still smooth on my phone. It's just as smooth as any flagship out there.
Unless you're running a nuclear powerplant on your phone I wouldn't say it's "slow"
Well the oneplus one wins it all round for me, 64gb internal is great. Battery life is meh as @etalocohc pointed out. Also, the camera isn't so good. Its been a rollercoaster.
Maybe you are right, but Optimus G is lot older and cheaper device. Wouldn't say LG updates are poor, stock firmware is great, and they put KitKat on device from end of 2012 which is nice. I can agree with Custom ROMs, they aren't great and not really much for e975, i think there are more ROMs for USA editions of LGOG. Battery life can be decent with good kernel, my phone goes down with voltage to -137,5 which is really good, better battery life and lower heating.
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Maybe you are right, but Optimus G is lot older and cheaper device. Wouldn't say LG updates are poor, stock firmware is great, and they put KitKat on device from end of 2012 which is nice. I can agree with Custom ROMs, they aren't great and not really much for e975, i think there are more ROMs for USA editions of LGOG. Battery life can be decent with good kernel, my phone goes down with voltage to -137,5 which is really good, better battery life and lower heating.
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I think most OEMs are supposed to update their phones or at least flagships for at least 2 years. Check your DMs, I asked a question .
Duo8 said:
>Poor LG updates
S3 didn't even get 4.4
>not so great custom ROM support
Most popular ROMs out there are ported. They work fine and has everything you'll ever need. Personally I found no problem with ROM support.
>its just getting slower as Android gets newer
Still smooth on my phone. It's just as smooth as any flagship out there.
Unless you're running a nuclear powerplant on your phone I wouldn't say it's "slow"
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Yes but ROM support sucks, not to bash on devs or anything, but most of the time ROMs are left half working, are then abandoned and another ROMs project starts. Also Gee sources which are used for a lot of ROMs on this device are just not the best I've seen.
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Galileo said:
Yes but ROM support sucks, not to bash on devs or anything, but most of the time ROMs are left half working, are then abandoned and another ROMs project starts. Also Gee sources which are used for a lot of ROMs on this device are just not the best I've seen.
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At least now Faust93 has ported the kk camera driver. Fantastic progress which means gee ROMs can finally qualify as a daily driver.
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At least now Faust93 has ported the kk camera driver. Fantastic progress which means gee ROMs can finally qualify as a daily driver.
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There's still the thermald.conf file issue for me, i dont want my phone to be a mobile oven :V
Yeah, maybe in some months I will try to find some excuses to change my G phone, for now I'm happy and KK update was fantastic for me.
Most probably I will stay with LG, regarding One Plus One, I don't like the phone size and I will more time to see their hardware quality.
Got my invite tonight and ordering it later
Duo8 said:
>Poor LG updates
S3 didn't even get 4.4
>not so great custom ROM support
Most popular ROMs out there are ported. They work fine and has everything you'll ever need. Personally I found no problem with ROM support.
>its just getting slower as Android gets newer
Still smooth on my phone. It's just as smooth as any flagship out there.
Unless you're running a nuclear powerplant on your phone I wouldn't say it's "slow"
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+1
Please compare the G with devices from same time (s3) !
We have all roms u need and i think there are much not here at xda! Chineese dont often use xda because they cant english and are not interested!
And its great to see that one rom works for many models (f180, e970, ls 970..)
Yea one point: i think our g/device trees can more when we have better support with the right devs (we have good devs! They can build roms and fix errors and im happy! But i think device tree has more potential)
Battery life is for me great, i dont belive on wonders and see it in comparison with other devices!
I love my G and i will buy/replace backcover instead to buy a new phone! Theres no different.. I also can replace battery, no problem...
Camerais good! But my backcover has scratches and thats ehy quality awful and high senitivity by lights...
Opo is for me to big!
And hey, we have kitkat, its newest os! 4.4.2. 4.4.4 update makes no sense.. Find differents!
Only one i hate on lg: dont know if we can see g3 ui in future and we have no knockOn or knockCode! Lowend devices are on 4.2.1 but became update in that time with the knockon feature while we have waited for kitkat
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Well, it's a bit sad that I am putting my OG up for sale... I love this phone, but a great deal on a G2 was too good to pass, so I am moving on. All of you that are still using an OG, or considering getting one -- have fun and enjoy it, this puppy has plenty of life left in it, and it's still an awesome device today.
Thank you all who helped me along the way, the community support here on XDA is great!
kt-Froggy said:
Well, it's a bit sad that I am putting my OG up for sale... I love this phone, but a great deal on a G2 was too good to pass, so I am moving on. All of you that are still using an OG, or considering getting one -- have fun and enjoy it, this puppy has plenty of life left in it, and it's still an awesome device today.
Thank you all who helped me along the way, the community support here on XDA is great!
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Oh, G2 has silly problems. I hope you won't regret. But, wish you the best anyway
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Oh, G2 has silly problems. I hope you won't regret. But, wish you the best anyway
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I know this is an offtopic here, but I am wondering if you have any pointers to such problems. I haven't perused G2 forums yet, but definitely planning to do it. I am not planning to do any heavy modding; still, would be interested to know what to look out for...
kt-Froggy said:
I know this is an offtopic here, but I am wondering if you have any pointers to such problems. I haven't perused G2 forums yet, but definitely planning to do it. I am not planning to do any heavy modding; still, would be interested to know what to look out for...
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Well, first of all a little signal issue, then something like BIOS battery problem! I mean if you turn the device off at night your settings will reset! Even if you don't turn it off, in the morning you notice it's not silent while you'd switched to silent mode.
Camera lens cover is aweful in quality which will heck your picture quality up. Battery life on kitkat is at least 20 percent worse than JB. Screen has two types which requires two types of kernel. Poor build quality comparing with OG. Risky to put in pocket. Screen yellow tint in many cases when it gets hot. And some other problems that I don't remember now. Oh the soft buttons. They are a real pain. You can't hide them and they are always present in every apps and games.
Even with a OnePlus One, I'll sorely miss my G, with so little amount of people in this forum, its such a tight community which I love. I'll still be around for help, just won't be able to test unless I keep my G alongside my One, still considering it .
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Which Rom & Kernel Are You Hoping To Flash On You Nexus 5X ?

For those of you who will unlock the bootloader & root your brand new 5X. Which rom & kernel combination are you hoping to flash (either based on previous experience or from what you have heard) ?
Paranoid android is the only developer that brings innovative ideas to the table...
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Am i the only person that stopped rooting and flashing roms when they got their n5? I used every top of the line Android phone on T-Mobile, was a flash addict. Got my n5, it was perfect, and people were talking about how rooting the n5's were showing slower data speeds. I didn't want to chance slower speeds and vanilla Android runs too good to play with. Missed the addons from other roms but it wasn't worth it me.
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On my moto G 2014 I unlocked and rooted but didn't flash (rom scene isn't close as good as nexus I think) only used stock. Only rooted to use adaway and cf lumen. I wish we can root our phones without unlocking bootloader.
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Am i the only person that stopped rooting and flashing roms when they got their n5? I used every top of the line Android phone on T-Mobile, was a flash addict. Got my n5, it was perfect, and people were talking about how rooting the n5's were showing slower data speeds. I didn't want to chance slower speeds and vanilla Android runs too good to play with. Missed the addons from other roms but it wasn't worth it me.
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I am going to be unrooted and completely stock, like you. Marshmallow added in features that makes custom ROMs less of an appeal to me. I would like Android Pay to work
From what I can see Nexuses have no real need to have a custom rom installed (compared to other smartphones). Also Android Pay will not work if rooted.
Would people agree ?
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From what I can see Nexuses have no real need to have a custom rom installed (compared to other smartphones). Also Android Pay will not work if rooted.
Would people agree ?
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I agree. I used to just like flashing roms to see new things, but man, when a phone works as good as an n5 right out of the box, its hard to want to mess with that.
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I'm going to try to stay stock. But when the roms start showing up I won't be any to resist
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I'm going to try to stay stock. But when the roms start showing up I won't be any to resist
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Same here... plus I have some root apps I can't live without. I don't really care about custom roms on the Nexus, but like you I won't be able to stop myself, I'm sure. I'd like for Android Pay to work though, but not necessary.
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Same here... plus I have some root apps I can't live without. I don't really care about custom roms on the Nexus, but like you I won't be able to stop myself, I'm sure. I'd like for Android Pay to work though, but not necessary.
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What are the benefits of Android Pay ?
Being in Canada and not being eligible for Android pay there is no adverse affect of rooting. Ideally would be running stock + xposed/gravitybox but one can only speculate when that will be available on 6.0. Until then something ASOP or stock based that includes extended reboot menu, circle battery mod, multiwindow, and additional quick setting toggles
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What are the benefits of Android Pay ?
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You can pay with your phone at 23% of the stores in America lol lol. Which it's pointless. Now if you had Samsung pay that would be a different story, but you don't so let the rooting begin
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What are the benefits of Android Pay ?
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You can be embarrassed holding up the checkout line trying to use Android Pay while your pay card rests in your back pocket. The only use I ever see for this stuff is if you actually forget your card. Then it's great to be able to pay with a phone. And at a drive-thru or restaurant, they take your card.
Cataclysm ROM -PERIOD!
Hands down smoothest ROM I have ever used on any Nexus phone, including stock Google. It is a little different but has everything I could ever want. The battery life is amazing. I've tried others, but have stayed with Cataclysm with my N5 2013.
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Cataclysm ROM -PERIOD!
Hands down smoothest ROM I have ever used on any Nexus phone, including stock Google. It is a little different but has everything I could ever want. The battery life is amazing. I've tried others, but have stayed with Cataclysm with my N5 2013.
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@Mrwirez Is it guaranteed to come for the 5X ?
Cataclysm was favorite in N4 days. But the developer went MIA for 10 or so months during the jelly bean and kit kat days.
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Cataclysm was favorite in N4 days. But the developer went MIA for 10 or so months during the jelly bean and kit kat days.
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@Riverdales27 He's back now ?
I'm usually stock with some kernel like franco or elemetnalx.
Also, I love GravityBox but I guess we'll have to wait a long time for that to work on M.
I'd be looking for put SlimROM on there as soon as possible, I have it all customised just the way I like it on my Nexus 5.
Hopefully none. I didn't get to play around with Marshmallow yet and I hope the new features are enough to make me stay stock. I'm a big fan of CM's Privacy Guard and I want to see how extensive the new Marshmallow one is, that and quick toggles customization. If I'm not satisfied, I'll probably flash CM 13 nightlies when they're available.

How to get best performance out of my N7

Hey,
I recently started to use my N7 more and more. And I am wondering how to get or out of the device.
It would be crazy good if there is some way to play hearthstone lagfree. Because I am using my phone for it atm.
Also I have the feeling that switching between apps is sometimes very laggy.
Can you recommend a few tools, to enhance the devices computing power. I am currently running Pure Nexus 7.1.2 Rom and the 3.4 Krexus Stock kernel.
Merry Christmas
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subersauger said:
Hey,
I recently started to use my N7 more and more. And I am wondering how to get or out of the device.
It would be crazy good if there is some way to play hearthstone lagfree. Because I am using my phone for it atm.
Also I have the feeling that switching between apps is sometimes very laggy.
Can you recommend a few tools, to enhance the devices computing power. I am currently running Pure Nexus 7.1.2 Rom and the 3.4 Krexus Stock kernel.
Merry Christmas
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I had LOS 14.1 for several months, and found this it got very slow after a while. I just went back to stock 6.0.1, and it is usable again. I also am looking for suggestions on the fastest stable 7.1 ROM with security updates.
I just loaded Pure Nexus after having been on stock Marshmallow. The performance improvement was very noticeable but I'm not certain if it's the ROM or doing a clean install of an OS after a few years.
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I'm running stock 6.01 marshmallow here on my n7 rooted with Elemental X kernel. I haven't come across any games yet it doesn't run well if you look on YouTube I posted some vids a while back. I think there are some hardware issues with the Nexus 7 I guess I'm lucky to own a good one ?
im using microg los 14.1 and gotta say the tablet is as snappy as ever and the battery life improved drastically (from 5 hours sot to 9 hours sot watching youtube videos)

Question on a custom kernel on a custom rom

Hi a total total newbie here I have no clue but I love to learn.
I really like the ElementalX kernel for my htc one m7 mainly because of the overclocking and undervolting for battery consumption and the doubletaptowake with some sound enhancement. I custom rommed lineage os 16.0(stable) Android 9.0 from the site and I tried installing ElementalX kernel 14.12 sense which was for Android 4.4.2 sense UI 6 and the newer ElementalX-m7-22.4-Sense, obviously it wouldn't work because none of them are built for Android 9 and it would just bootloop all over again. The phone is rooted and I did download some root-needed apps kernel editors but you know how they go.. I don't wanna go back to stock because of the newer apps I'm gonna miss out on
Is there any hope for me to find a kernel that sort of supports my purpose? Thanks in advance
I honestly can’t answer your question. Just wanted to say I’m impressed you’re still rocking the m7 after all these years.
Was an awesome phone when it came out, except for the battery consumption; and then Verizon dragging their feet, and eventually refusing to release official updates.
I eventually turned to custom ROMs for a couple years before I eventually moved onto an iPhone 5c. May not have been able to customize it. But, I knew Apple would keep the updates flowing for a while.
Good luck in your quest.
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I honestly can’t answer your question. Just wanted to say I’m impressed you’re still rocking the m7 after all these years.
Was an awesome phone when it came out, except for the battery consumption; and then Verizon dragging their feet, and eventually refusing to release official updates.
I eventually turned to custom ROMs for a couple years before I eventually moved onto an iPhone 5c. May not have been able to customize it. But, I knew Apple would keep the updates flowing for a while.
Good luck in your quest.
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I knowww tbh I'm still using the LG V20, the Samsung note edge and the Nexus 6(which I still love to this day and wouldn't sell) from time to time. The main problem I have with those devices was the battery life.. "was" as in not anymore since I changed the battery and they're workhorses back again but the m7 is a hurtful little thing. I opened it once and immediately regretted unscrewing the first screw. It's a mess and hardware alternation is my current options . Anyways thank you for your input. I appreciate it. I might as well downgrade to lineage OS 14.1 Android 7 and there's a custom kernel for the same LIOS14.1 which might be compatible.

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