I know there are custom roms to improve battery life and id like to get rid of the cruft but my experience with connections optimizer in the past is that despite my 110mb cable modem and ac wireless router it still wants to go to the cellular data and i havent tried it on my s6 yet. So i still get the popups for this connections optimizer and i close it. Mostly i want that gone. Im not sure if i want root though. Ive seen on the internet that samsung pay doesnt work on rooted devices. Is this true? Still not sure what real advantage 8 core gets anyone.
In the mean time could someone advise about the samsung pay not working with rooted devices?
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In the mean time could someone advise about the samsung pay not working with rooted devices?
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That is correct, liz.beth. Telling you more than perhaps you want to know, rooting will trip Knox, Samsung's protection system. Once that is tripped, you will not be able to use Samsung Pay on that device, even if you disable root.
I do have a suggestion for you regarding Connections Optimizer. First try going to your Wifi settings, click advanced and disable Wifi from turning on automatically. After that go to settings, to "more", mobile network, the Connection Optimizer and uncheck the box.
Hmm... well i guess we wouldnt like to be tripping knox in that case
I dont actually see an option to prevent wifi from turning on automatically
but i do see a smart network switch option and set it to off
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That is correct, liz.beth. Telling you more than perhaps you want to know, rooting will trip Knox, Samsung's protection system. Once that is tripped, you will not be able to use Samsung Pay on that device, even if you disable root.
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That sux.
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I dont actually see an option to prevent wifi from turning on automatically
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Wifi -> More ->Advanced -> Always Allow Scanning to Off.
Thanks. Did that. Still pops up though less perhaps?
I don't understand, why don't you just turn connection optimizer off.
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How?
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I turned smart switch off and i still get the popups
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Settings / Mobile networks / Connections optimizer, uncheck it.
Yup i have done that before and it is unchecked.
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What are people using for tethering since root isn't available yet?
Ive used the method described in the following thread. The best part about how it works is that it offers infrastructure mode, so I can tether my Galaxy Tab without any problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079340
Note: See post #6
I heard that doing the ##778 edit causes a loss of phone data while tethered to the PC. Meaning data on the phone is dead but the pc has data. Is this true? After the edit do you just use the stock 3g mobile hotspot app?
Yes it's true, I've tried it.
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Yes it's true, I've tried it.
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But do you lose data on the phone while tethering? Also do you use the stock vzw app?
The answer to both questions is yes. I actually hadn't noticed it before but on my Dinc2 the signal meter only shows 1X instead of 3G when I activate the hotspot option. I guess I don't find that all too terrible as the only time I'm tethered I'm either using my tablet or my laptop.
Once the change is made, the hotspot app functions like it would if you were subscribed to the service.
What why would you do the hack if you only get 1x when tethering, that would be crazy slow.
Oops, My mistake. It appears my earlier reply was a load of crap!
3G is still clearly visible with hotspot enabled. Just ran a speed test on my Galaxy Tab. Downloads ranged from 473-329kbps with uploads between 303-193kbps.
So just to clarify. You did the following edits.
-in edit mode you will open 'security' and 'm.ip default profile' in turn. each time you look for the only entry containing "dun", as in:
<your actual phone number>@dun.vzw3g.com
edit out the "dun." so it looks like
<your actual phone number>@vzw3g.com
And you then use the stock 3g mobile hotspot app. After you enable the hotspot can you browse using the phone also? Or does internet on the phone stop working.
I think you're right, clarification is certainly in order.
Yes I simply removed dun from both of those locations and now use the standard, VZW included, hotspot app.
The phone cannot access the internet while tethering is enabled. Certainly a sacrifice, but from what I've seen so are the apps available with a rooted device which from my understanding cannot create an infrastructure hotspot, only ad-hoc.
Yeah the phone data loss kinda is a downfall. But I have an infrastructure connection with wireless tether on incredible 1 just for your info. Some apps are lucky and give good connections. well loss of data is probably a sacrifice I will make. thanks
Seems to me that the only time this would really matter is if you're sharing your connection with friends while still using your phone for data. Is there something I'm missing? I can see it being a minor annoyance but something I'd personally never run into.
Just so you know...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/05/30/psa-using-an-unapproved-tether-app-on-your-verizon-device-expect-to-have-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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Just so you know...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/05/30/psa-using-an-unapproved-tether-app-on-your-verizon-device-expect-to-have-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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I'm just amazed it's taken the carriers as long as it has on this.
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I'm just amazed it's taken the carriers as long as it has on this.
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If the detection is at the app level (unauthorized), like the article suggests, the hack may still be under the radar for the time being since folks are probably using the authorized app pre-installed on their phone.
I believe there may be some noobs on XDA, like myself, who did not know how to set up wifi tethering after root. Here's a quick rundown.
1. ROOT your phone (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756885)
2. Go to Playstore and download "Wifi tether for ROOT users" (****EXCEPTION BELOW)
3. IMPORTANT!!! go to the app's setting and set the "Change Device Profile" to "GENERIC ICS"
4. there is no step 4.
Save yourself some $$$ instead of paying Verizon a service that should have been free to start off with. :victory:
EDIT: **** buhohitr mentions that you can achieve wifi tethering WITHOUT ROOT through the playstore app "FoxFi"
ENJOY!!!!!
mehhh decent post. Saves some time, but really doesnt belong here.........
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mehhh decent post. Saves some time, but really doesnt belong here.........
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Well... I figured it'll get the most views in the development section so here it is. One thing I might change is getting this in the "Guide" category
Just a note: I've been using this app with really inconsistent results using generic ics profile and auto setup. I've only been able to detect the wifi twice. I read somewhere that turning wifi tether on, let it start up, turn it off, reboot phone, and start up tethering again works somehow. I just tried it and it worked right away but this is only once. I don't know if this will work consistently 100% of the time though
best wifi tethering is just down load Foxfi from the market, installed and bang work like a champ..very reliable.Foxfi work with root and without root.
Thanks, that was a lot easier than I'm used to. Wifi tether worked the first time, and I turned it off and on a few times and it worked everytime.
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Just a note: I've been using this app with really inconsistent results using generic ics profile and auto setup. I've only been able to detect the wifi twice. I read somewhere that turning wifi tether on, let it start up, turn it off, reboot phone, and start up tethering again works somehow. I just tried it and it worked right away but this is only once. I don't know if this will work consistently 100% of the time though
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do NOT set it as AUTO
shilohdrummer said:
do NOT set it as AUTO
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Why not?
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kthung said:
Why not?
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I believe that's what's causing the disconnection
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Why not?
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Because it doesn't work for crap. I set mine as a galaxy nexus for CDMA/LTE and it works flawlessly.
redbearde said:
Because it doesn't work for crap. I set mine as a galaxy nexus for CDMA/LTE and it works flawlessly.
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This is the correct way to do it. choose "galaxy nexus for CDMA/LTE"
also, do not forget to check "routing fix"
this will give you full infrastructure tethering instead of ad-hoc tethering.
what does this mean? It means that your phone will allow things like ipod's , game systems (psp, gameboy..) to connect as well. It will function exactly like a wifi router.
cheers
This could just go in the themes and apps forum technically since all you're doing is installing an app basically... But I guess it's a guide. Thanks for the info OP. For those of you on the new shared data plans, don't even worry about following this guide, the tethering is included in the package because Verizon wants you to use more data and pay overages.
The default tethering app however does support open NAT for Xbox and PSN though which is kinda nice :X (Only wireless tethering root app I got to work with PSN and Xbox for open NAT is barnacle WiFi tether and it was a bit of a pain the butt.)
Free Hotspot on Shared Plan
If you purchased the phone with Verizon After the deadline and lost your unlimited data however, gaining a shared plan, Wifi Hotspot is included in the share data plan at no additional cost. There is no reason to hide your wifi traffic. HOWEVER, I personally find the Wifi Tether app to be better than the default Hotspot app anyway.
Serinety said:
This is the correct way to do it. choose "galaxy nexus for CDMA/LTE"
also, do not forget to check "routing fix"
cheers
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You must have meant that this is the correct way for you. When I check "routing fix" or "galaxy nexus CDMA/LTE", my laptop connot see a wifi signal. However, following the OP's post worked like a charm for me. Obviously, it may take a bit of tinkering for people to determine the best setup for themselves.
Is there a way to lower the power of the Wifi from the phone to save power. The range you get when tethering is way further than necessary and it might be better for battery if you could lower the power usage.
Also, is using this rooted wifi tether safer than using foxfi in terms of verizon detecting the use.
How safe are these methods compared to using a power toggle widget to just enable the built-in tethering app? I've found if you try to enable it from the menu, it checks for subscription, but if you use a power toggle app, it "just works."
Edit: One more question....while performing the Wifi pop-up hack, I found an option along the lines of TETHER_ALWAYS_ON. Has anyone tried changing this to a 1?
I believe tethering is more frowned upon than anything else by verizon. I have not heard otherwise, or heard of trouble with big red because of it. However, the "best customer experience" is had when you pay for it. Haha.
Been using Foxfi the last couple of days with no problems. Solid app that works well.
That worked for me, thank u sir
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This is going to theme an apps. It's not really a mod at all.
Is there any way to get the GNex to work as a dialup modem? I have wifi and usb tether working but sometimes I would just like to disable data on the phone and just use it as a dialup modem. Is this possible at all? When I switch to modem mode from PhoneUtils (DIAG mode) I can see VIA USB Modem in Device Manager but it does not connect when I try to configure it as a dialup modem. Do I need to do something else to make this work?
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Is there any way to get the GNex to work as a dialup modem? I have wifi and usb tether working but sometimes I would just like to disable data on the phone and just use it as a dialup modem. Is this possible at all? When I switch to modem mode from PhoneUtils (DIAG mode) I can see VIA USB Modem in Device Manager but it does not connect when I try to configure it as a dialup modem. Do I need to do something else to make this work?
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Are you referring to actually using a dial-up internet connection like the old AOL or something similar? If so, I don't think that would work at all. Those old modems used analog signals to transmit and being all cell communication is digital these days, I can't see it working. If your computer is detecting it as a modem, it is probably something like a digital modem.
Of course I could be wrong. I doubt there is much on the subject since I doubt many people have ever thought of doing that, lol.
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Are you referring to actually using a dial-up internet connection like the old AOL or something similar? If so, I don't think that would work at all. Those old modems used analog signals to transmit and being all cell communication is digital these days, I can't see it working. If your computer is detecting it as a modem, it is probably something like a digital modem.
Of course I could be wrong. I doubt there is much on the subject since I doubt many people have ever thought of doing that, lol.
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He mean dailing a phone number and setting up a connection using his phone. My old feature phone can do that.
Wow, I suppose it might be possible to do that, but I sure haven't ever seen anyone mention it before. I'm not sure an analog connection is possible on a digital connection.
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I used to be able to do this on my Droid Incredible, which had "Internet Connection Mode" when switched on converts the phone to a dialup modem and one can disable data on device and connect on a laptop as if using a normal usb modem. It was not tethering per se. Any clues on this with the GNex?
I see what you mean but... why would you want to punish yourself like that?
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I see what you mean but... why would you want to punish yourself like that?
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I see that USB tethering have no disadvantages, no idea why he wants to do it though.
USB tethering charges the phone slightly and pull data at the same time.
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I see that USB tethering have no disadvantages, no idea why he wants to do it though.
USB tethering charges the phone slightly and pull data at the same time.
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OK. My reason for asking about this is because I do not have unlimited data, like 1.17GB monthly so I was looking for a way to disable data on the phone itself while still being able to use it on my laptop. USB tethering must have data enabled on the phone for it to work, thereby draining my bandwidth with updates, email sync and all other data related stuff running on the phone. All this while my laptop is consuming its own data from the tether. Being able to activate the dialup modem would save me some of that data the phone will be using in the background.
So if I understand correctly you want to disable all on-device data use while allowing tethering.
I don't know that Android allows this. However if you disable auto updates in Google Play and turn off auto-sync, that'll stop your Google accounts from syncing in the background. There are also some (but not all) apps that are programmed to stop syncing when that system setting is disabled.
In Settings > Data Usage you can see which apps consume the most mobile data. If any of them are "out of control" you can restrict background mobile data usage for those apps.
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So if I understand correctly you want to disable all on-device data use while allowing tethering.
I don't know that Android allows this. However if you disable auto updates in Google Play and turn off auto-sync, that'll stop your Google accounts from syncing in the background. There are also some (but not all) apps that are programmed to stop syncing when that system setting is disabled.
In Settings > Data Usage you can see which apps consume the most mobile data. If any of them are "out of control" you can restrict background mobile data usage for those apps.
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Found the solution. But implementation is cumbersome. *#*#DATA#*#*, Other, Dialup Networking, Enable. If only I could create a shortcut with bettercut... sadly this setting does not appear in bettercut all activities and I do not know the activity name in order to create it from scratch.
I first replied from Tapatalk so I did not see your signature that pointed out you have the CDMA version. The code you mentioned is not present in the GSM version.
Why don't you just get a higher data plan?
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Why don't you just get a higher data plan?
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Well, you gona pay?
Neat, I didn't know we can do that, even though USB Tethering is easier.
Are there really any pros to doing this over USB Tethering? I remember using this to bypass Verizon's 3G Mobile Hotspot app back in the day, but since rooting to make stock tethering work, I haven't given it any thought...
Edit: does this work in Jelly Bean? I'm not getting anything...
Exit again!: 4636 isn't working either, must be the ROM that I'm on....
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Got it! Installed Nova launcher from Play Store, in widgets drawer you can see Nova Activities. Just select it drag to home screen and a whole lot of activities pop up, choose Dial Up Networking and... Voila... I can use the GNex as a dialup modem. It's neater than USB tether, for those on limited data plans. You only use data on your computer and no data on the phone while you are online on your computer. Really neat!:good:
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Neat, I didn't know we can do that, even though USB Tethering is easier.
Are there really any pros to doing this over USB Tethering? I remember using this to bypass Verizon's 3G Mobile Hotspot app back in the day, but since rooting to make stock tethering work, I haven't given it any thought...
Edit: does this work in Jelly Bean? I'm not getting anything...
Exit again!: 4636 isn't working either, must be the ROM that I'm on....
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If you are on Verizon stock ROM you are out of luck. No hidden menus on that ROM. Mine is a Verizon Gnex but running Sprint (Toroplus) CM10 M2 ROM. The Sprint ROMs have the hiddne menus (*#*#4636#*#*, *#*#3282#*#*, etc).
Unless you have special need for Verizon bloatware you can run a Sprint ROM and it works just fine, but you must combine a Sprint CDMA Radio with the Verizon LTE Radio.
Interesting..... so any toroplus ROM works with toro phones as long as we have the Verizon LTE radio flashed? I mean radios don't come with ROMs so am I good to just flash and reboot?
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Interesting..... so any toroplus ROM works with toro phones as long as we have the Verizon LTE radio flashed? I mean radios don't come with ROMs so am I good to just flash and reboot?
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Since you are on Toro ROM already it's most likely you have both Toro CDMA and LTE radios. Just look for a Toroplus CDMA radio and flash via CWM, but please flash a Toroplus CWM first, then you can flash the Toroplus CDMA Radio and a Toroplus ROM.
I know I can't be alone in thinking that flashing a Toroplus radio on a Verizon Gnex is an all around bad idea.
adrynalyne said:
I know I can't be alone in thinking that flashing a Toroplus radio on a Verizon Gnex is an all around bad idea.
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Proof that it works http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696621 This thread made it possible for me to use my GNex on a CDMA network here in Nigeria. Talk, text and 3G data working. Infact I am using the dialup feature to post this right now.
Hey is there a way to turn off WiFi from automatically turning on all the time. Thanks
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bstangs1 said:
Hey is there a way to turn off WiFi from automatically turning on all the time. Thanks
Stock Rooted SG3
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That's the Sprint Connection Optimizer turning your wifi on all the time. Just disable it in settings (not sure exactly where in settings, but it's definitely there, I'd assume in "more" under wireless settings).
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That's the Sprint Connection Optimizer turning your wifi on all the time. Just disable it in settings (not sure exactly where in settings, but it's definitely there, I'd assume in "more" under wireless settings).
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+1 Go to settings>wireless and networks more settings>mobile networks>connection optimizer and uncheck it and forget it exists
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+1 Go to settings>wireless and networks more settings>mobile networks>connection optimizer and uncheck it and forget it exists
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Thanks for the clarification, Rocker of Dragons. I've been running AOSP Roms for so long I've forgotten where all of the settings are in stock TW.
And just a quick question: I noticed in your sig that you used Mskip's Toolkit when rooting. Did you have the same issues with Wifi being borked when you rooted it using the toolkit? I've stopped recommending it because of the issues people have has with it. I currently recommend Skunk Ape's guide, since it's easy to follow and walks you through each step with pictures and everything.
You can remove it via Titanium Backup, if you think its as useless as I do
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Ok thanks for your help.
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If your on a TW rom I recommend freezing it and not removing. Removing it has caused issues because it is linked to other tw based apps within the system.
On my two cents I love it I pick up wifi hot spots everywhere and the phone just connects automatically once you have already set it up. I go to Target I'm connected, I go to grocery store I'm connected, I go to mall I'm connected, I go to bookstore I'm connected, I go to Home Depot I'm connected, I go to Bahamas Breeze I'm connected... Lol see the advantages to using it.
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Subject says it all. Even when connected to Wi-Fi, my LTE/3G/1X icon still shows. I've literally never had a phone that does this. Is this normal?
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Mine does the same thing, but can't answer your question. The pessimist in me thinks it could be some shady trick Verizon does to seep more data out of us for overages.
Was going to post this same question, I remember on the galaxy s4 they had the caller id app causing the issue, doesn't seem to be the case this time. Also tasker can't control mobile data on lollipop anymore, so that's out of the question.
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Mine does the same thing, but can't answer your question. The pessimist in me thinks it could be some shady trick Verizon does to seep more data out of us for overages.
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I've seen that bussiness model before. I have a HP printer at work that uses 4 cartriges that cost roughly $180 (each) HP has set it so even if you print strictly in b/w, it still applies slight C/M/Y to the mix till it depletes the other cartridges...
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It's persistent. Your wifi is on and working, if you want to you can turn off data and it will only show wifi
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IMO it is the "my <insert carrier name> app"
Same happens on my tmobile galaxy s6. I think is a 5.1 thing. Sucks balls.
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Subject says it all. Even when connected to Wi-Fi, my LTE/3G/1X icon still shows. I've literally never had a phone that does this. Is this normal?
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I had the s6 edge before this for a couple days and this phone is similar from what I've noticed some apps require carrier data to provide authentication and some phones use both Wi-Fi and lte to download faster this phone does it at times it's just not really a feature to turn on and off yet like it is on the edge.
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I've got the H815 and can not confirm this. I never had a phone that did this, save you activated that option within an Xposed module. I did this on my Note 10.1 2014 LTE because I wanted to check the connectivity strength of my carrier even when I had WLAN enabled. But out of the box? No.
On the G2 pre-lollipop, we could change the icon set and hide data icon when on wifi.
After lollipop, it seems to stick regardless. Annoying I know.
The only downfall of the LG is the intense amount of status bar icons. I really only used xposed to hide most of those and have centerclock. Need root first though. Not sure if xposed is supprted without a custom recovery yet. They disabled activation through the app until testing was complete.
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Same happens on my tmobile galaxy s6. I think is a 5.1 thing. Sucks balls.
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Same to me, im on T Mobile galaxy S6, i just update mine to 5.1.1 and this anoyin bug start to show.
When im on Wifi the Data icon show up randomly:crying:
For what it's worth, I set up a tasker profile along with autoinput for when I connect to my saved wi-fi access points it would turn my mobile data off. Now it's not a smooth as tasker before lollipop, but it gets the job done.
That's a Verizon thing, same appears on my Moto X. Doesn't bother me, I'm always interested to see signal strength available even if I'm using data via WiFi.
This is how every Verizon phone has been for the past few years. This is intended and I honestly prefer it.