From LG G3 to Zenfone 2 - ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I'm moving away from my LG G3 3GB RAM 32 GB to Zenfone 2 4GB RAM 16 GB.
The most disappointing to my LG G3 was battery life and the un-needed 2K screen.
The differences are a removeable 3000 lithium-ion vs a non-removeable 3000 lithium-polymer battery. On GSM arena it is showing 63 hrs endurance vs 59 hrs for the Zenfone 2.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6294&idPhone2=6917
The reviews are very positive for the Zenfone 2, but I don't read much about the battery life? I'm not really a poweruser. You can find me usually on chrome reading stuff and apps like TapaTalk... What do you guys think? I'm really disappointed in the LG G3 and I have used it for about a year now.

G1-Amateur said:
Hey guys,
I'm moving away from my LG G3 3GB RAM 32 GB to Zenfone 2 4GB RAM 16 GB.
The most disappointing to my LG G3 was battery life and the un-needed 2K screen.
The differences are a removeable 3000 lithium-ion vs a non-removeable 3000 lithium-polymer battery. On GSM arena it is showing 63 hrs endurance vs 59 hrs for the Zenfone 2.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6294&idPhone2=6917
The reviews are very positive for the Zenfone 2, but I don't read much about the battery life? I'm not really a poweruser. You can find me usually on chrome reading stuff and apps like TapaTalk... What do you guys think? I'm really disappointed in the LG G3 and I have used it for about a year now.
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I do the same thing with minimal social apps (twitter, and such for just news updates) and it lasts me 36-40 hours with 4-5 hours of screen on time. However, your standby may be different to mine if you don't root since I was using Greenify, Amplify, and Power Nap. I believe it is somewhere in the 18-25 hours or so with 4-5 hours of screen on time without these apps (This is of course saying that you use the phone for 4 or 5 hours in the day, it will easily last you close to two days if you do say 2 hours today and maybe 1- 2 hours the next).

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G1-Amateur said:
Hey guys,
I'm moving away from my LG G3 3GB RAM 32 GB to Zenfone 2 4GB RAM 16 GB.
The most disappointing to my LG G3 was battery life and the un-needed 2K screen.
The differences are a removeable 3000 lithium-ion vs a non-removeable 3000 lithium-polymer battery. On GSM arena it is showing 63 hrs endurance vs 59 hrs for the Zenfone 2.
The reviews are very positive for the Zenfone 2, but I don't read much about the battery life? I'm not really a poweruser. You can find me usually on chrome reading stuff and apps like TapaTalk... What do you guys think? I'm really disappointed in the LG G3 and I have used it for about a year now.
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I am agree about the screen on the g3 so much ppi, only with a bionic eye can see it :silly: , 1080p and 401 ppi is more than excellent on the zenfone 2, BUT about the battery life, im not sure if you are going to find it "better".
PD: Tomorrow im going to get my zenfone 2, So i cant say much, only what i have read on comments and reviews...

Thanks guys,
Someone experienced the galaxy S4 or xperia z2? I've heard their battery life is excellent...
And whats up with the 39 minute "quick" charge? I m using my 2 Amps DELL tablet to charge my phone and this charges fast too?
Also, if your zenfone does not react and the screen stays black... How do you reset the battery? I had it a few times and removed the battery in such extreme cases; but what about a non renoveable battery?

G1-Amateur said:
Thanks guys,
Someone experienced the galaxy S4 or xperia z2? I've heard their battery life is excellent...
And whats up with the 39 minute "quick" charge? I m using my 2 Amps DELL tablet to charge my phone and this charges fast too?
Also, if your zenfone does not react and the screen stays black... How do you reset the battery? I had it a few times and removed the battery in such extreme cases; but what about a non renoveable battery?
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Yes, battery life on those two is very good.
Quick Charge only applies to the wall adapter since the usb connection to any other device doesn't provide enough amps for it to charge that fast. 2 amps on usb versus 11 amps on the wall charger.
Holding down the power button for a continuous 10-15 seconds forces shutdown so the non-removable battery should be fine.

Christopher876 said:
Yes, battery life on those two is very good.
Quick Charge only applies to the wall adapter since the usb connection to any other device doesn't provide enough amps for it to charge that fast. 2 amps on usb versus 11 amps on the wall charger.
Holding down the power button for a continuous 10-15 seconds forces shutdown so the non-removable battery should be fine.
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Great tip.

I've move from LG G3 to zenfone 2 (lost my G3 )and can say... Zenfone 2 is way better than G3. Faster, better battery life (+1h SOT) but G3 have a bigger comunity (more roms, mod's,etc). But i'm pretty happy with zenfone

What does SOT mean?

G1-Amateur said:
What does SOT mean?
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Screen-On-Time.

I see. Cheers.

Related

[Q] battery life

I just noticed this new phone, and wanted to know, how long lasts the battery?
1. how long, when u basicly only call/text (minimal useage)
2. how long with wifi/gps etc
On Verizon version. Given the variables you described,
A. 8 hours stock.
B. 6.5 hour stock GPS on. Browsing web for 30 minutes, a couple or rounds of Flick golf (Game)
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Considering his location, the OP will most likely be looking at the GSM variant of the Galaxy Nexus.
didnt know it changes much... Im europe, so its GSM.
8h with only texting/calling?
Yes. I'm almost certain that GSM version has a commendable battery life over The CDMA/LTE version.
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Which mean I am not able to see location. Using this app.
Hopefully a GSM user can chime in and give a more accurate account.
Stiflerlv said:
didnt know it changes much... Im europe, so its GSM.
8h with only texting/calling?
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Yes it does change a lot. The CDMA version features 4G LTE which has a larger battery size (1850 mAh vs 1750 mAh [GSM]) but it drains faster due to LTE technology.
It's really hard to tell you what the battery life is because nowadays there are so many different factors out there that change battery life such as: reception, unvolting CPU, custom kernel with battery tweaks, custom ROM, and so on.
You can also buy a genuine 2000 mAh battery with a extended battery cover. The battery itself has NFC so you won't lose NFC capability.
Overall, I don't think you should have a problem lasting a whole day with the stock battery with the proper setup (meaning intervals isn't refreshing every 15 mins).
My friend usually only texts and calls and his battery lasts around 30 hours.. with 3 hours of screen time.
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My last charge lasted 24 hours. That was with one call, a couple of texts and wifi. Total time screen was on: 2,5 hours.
I'm hapoy with the battery time.
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Lasting a day... with not much of use? Its just to little! 2 years ago got myself HTC tattoo, and it lasted only ~3-4 days, which wasnt enof and I bought extended battery. Phone is now 2x size and 2x weight, if buying new phone I dont want to do that!
Why it cant handle normaly 2 days? 1day at heavy usage? Thats not much to ask :/
Stiflerlv said:
Lasting a day... with not much of use? Its just to little! 2 years ago got myself HTC tattoo, and it lasted only ~3-4 days, which wasnt enof and I bought extended battery. Phone is now 2x size and 2x weight, if buying new phone I dont want to do that!
Why it cant handle normaly 2 days? 1day at heavy usage? Thats not much to ask :/
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It IS much too ask when the screen is bigger (uses much more battery), the resolution of the display is higher (720p, uses more battery)the CPU is faster (uses much more battery), phone is slim (Less room for big battery). All compared to the HTC Tattoo ofc.

my g3 battery draining fast?!

Hi,
My LG G3 D850 battery is going down pretty fast and always gets about only 18 hrs of standby time (less than 4 hrs on screen) no matter what I did. In such a case, is the extended battery a good option? I already found a mpj 6000 mah extended battery, or ss something wrong with my stock battery? I don't really know much about the smart phones, but I really like this phone so if anyone could help me fix the battery issue thank you so much!
What's your brightness? I'm getting about the same 18hrs too with my battery. I usually have the brightness on 50%.
g3g4 said:
Hi,
My LG G3 D850 battery is going down pretty fast and always gets about only 18 hrs of standby time (less than 4 hrs on screen) no matter what I did. In such a case, is the extended battery a good option? I already found a mpj 6000 mah extended battery, or ss something wrong with my stock battery? I don't really know much about the smart phones, but I really like this phone so if anyone could help me fix the battery issue thank you so much!
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4hrs on screen is pretty normal depending on your usage. That being said, look into Greenify. It should help a bit.
Remember that this is a 4k display, which is harder on the battery. Some people make it to 6hrs+ screen time with mods, you can look into that if you'd like but being new to smart phones, it's not the first thing I'd suggest.
BWolf56 said:
Remember that this is a 4k display, which is harder on the battery.
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It's a 2K display
Pfeffernuss said:
It's a 2K display
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Sorry meant QHD.

[Q] Zenfone 2 or Vibe Z2 Pro

Lets compare Zenfone 2 and Vibe Z2 Pro
I dont know what to buy..
Zenfone2
+Support
+MicroSD Card
...
-Battery life?? (it will be better in the future? maybe with custom ROM?)
-Maybe 10.9 mm height
...
Vibez Z2 Pro
+Battery
+Construction, materials
...
-Support
-Too big screen
-No MicroSD Card
...
Zf2 Battery life is already OK. I get between 5 and 6 hours SOT
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Yeah. Don't take the b*tching of the few about sucky battery life as gospel. The reviews that I have read/watched dinged the battery but were comparing the phone to others with huge batteries or just whining that it didn't go for a week between charges. I go all day with mine with medium to heavy usage and still have juice left when I get home at night.
lenovo is **** it lags like samsung and does'nt even have support like zenphone.....lenovo heat eeven more than zen2
Battery life is pretty decent. My Nexus 5 was crap compared to my Zenfone 2. A day of light usage like today- check a few emails, receive a phone call, stream 15-20 minutes of music in the car, look up a couple of things on the web, and I had 83% left when I got home from work. Heavy usage will see me down to about 50-60%. The battery life has gotten a lot better with updates than when I first received my first Zenfone in March.

Lg g3 battery drain issue [ Tried normal methods % have screen shots ]

Guys im sorry but i have rushed a few replies to get the 10 posts but can you please not take this down i need to know if this is legit as my money back only lasts a certain amount
Ok so i bought a lg g3 from ebay, Its legit i have tested with antutu officer but it can get really hot and battery drains very quickly when watching movies and games.
My screen usage is always above 60% but i have screen on 30 seconds and 0% bright. My phone also says that i have used like 1000 mah at 50% but it should say 1500 mah.
I have a d851 and marshmallow and use my phone only with wifi no gps/nfc i also dont have background apps
My phone gets 188 mins on gfxbench
Screenies
http://imgur.com/D95ABh1
http://imgur.com/G8I2tcS
http://imgur.com/LcM3NRe
http://imgur.com/st0GBFP
http://imgur.com/fi9ho9j
Sorry for structure of thread...
Is this normal guys
razakma16 said:
Guys im sorry but i have rushed a few replies to get the 10 posts but can you please not take this down i need to know if this is legit as my money back only lasts a certain amount
Ok so i bought a lg g3 from ebay, Its legit i have tested with antutu officer but it can get really hot and battery drains very quickly when watching movies and games.
My screen usage is always above 60% but i have screen on 30 seconds and 0% bright. My phone also says that i have used like 1000 mah at 50% but it should say 1500 mah.
I have a d851 and marshmallow and use my phone only with wifi no gps/nfc i also dont have background apps
My phone gets 188 mins on gfxbench
Screenies
http://imgur.com/D95ABh1
http://imgur.com/G8I2tcS
http://imgur.com/LcM3NRe
http://imgur.com/st0GBFP
http://imgur.com/fi9ho9j
Sorry for structure of thread...
Is this normal guys
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Why should it say 1500 mah? The screen is not the only thing that drains the battery, you know that, right?
Running any benchmark will cause many battery drain. Don't do that. And that app you have to see the cpu temperature, 42º is not high for CPU. For battery it is.
dcop7 said:
Why should it say 1500 mah? The screen is not the only thing that drains the battery, you know that, right?
Running any benchmark will cause many battery drain. Don't do that. And that app you have to see the cpu temperature, 42º is not high for CPU. For battery it is.
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I meant the total of the battery is 1000 mah usage. But is it normal for screen usage to be 60-70 percent usage i use on low brightness aswell
Guys... Please help
razakma16 said:
Guys... Please help
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What help? Get a new battery or go away from Snapdragon devices. And, the screen usage is about right, because i don't know if you know, but the screen you are staring at is 1440x2560, or 2K, which is an insane resolution, and crammed in a 5.5 inch display at 538 ppi, it will consume A LOT. And the battery is just 3AH, which seemed much, but compared to the S5, with a 1080p display and a 2.6AH battery, the G3 has the worst SOT out of the 2014 flagship lineup.
西村大一 said:
What help? Get a new battery or go away from Snapdragon devices. And, the screen usage is about right, because i don't know if you know, but the screen you are staring at is 1440x2560, or 2K, which is an insane resolution, and crammed in a 5.5 inch display at 538 ppi, it will consume A LOT. And the battery is just 3AH, which seemed much, but compared to the S5, with a 1080p display and a 2.6AH battery, the G3 has the worst SOT out of the 2014 flagship lineup.
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The 2K screen doesn't consume that much power. There are mods which allow you to lower the resolution, but you won't see much or any increase in battery life or performance (maybe in games it's going to be most noticeable).
razakma16 said:
Guys... Please help
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Sounds like a bad battery. Quite possibly a reason why the other person decided to sell it in the first place. How old is the device that you purchases?
You can get an original replacement battery online for a few dollars. Just make sure you use a reputable vendor, like LG's official website.
engmia said:
The 2K screen doesn't consume that much power. There are mods which allow you to lower the resolution, but you won't see much or any increase in battery life or performance (maybe in games it's going to be most noticeable).
Sounds like a bad battery. Quite possibly a reason why the other person decided to sell it in the first place. How old is the device that you purchases?
You can get an original replacement battery online for a few dollars. Just make sure you use a reputable vendor, like LG's official website.
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Its brand new thats why i'm worried and i have downloaded a few battery checking apps and they say battery health is good.
But when i add up usage it totals lower then the battery capacity, they total up to 1000mah at 50%, when it should be 1500mah
Do you have any benchmarks i can try so i can see if its working right or its just me.
razakma16 said:
Its brand new thats why i'm worried and i have downloaded a few battery checking apps and they say battery health is good.
But when i add up usage it totals lower then the battery capacity, they total up to 1000mah at 50%, when it should be 1500mah
Do you have any benchmarks i can try so i can see if its working right or its just me.
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Oh so it's a brand new LG? How many hours of screen usage are you getting, what usage (web browsing, checking email or playing games?) and with what period of idle time.
Don't trust the numbers in the battery stats, especially in a new ROM. They are supposed to get better over time but I've found them to be wildly inaccurate even on months old ROM. I haven't really found an application you can benchmark accurately with.
But you compare with other (real) results on the foruns and rather you get the hang of what's the normal usage you should be getting out of a good battery.
Did you make a day without running any benchmark apps? What is your SOT? Standby time? Do you have location,wifi,bluetooth,NFC,mobile data on?
All of this matters. You shouldn't start right away with "I have problems with my battery" if you are running benchmark apps. Benchmark apps drains battery!
Wait a few days without running that apps and see how it manages. Another thing. The battery stats, the mah usage, not all of the things appears in the default android battery stats. And another thing, the battery value (the percentage of the battery), it is an approximation. Sometimes it could go up without charging, it is because it detected that has a wrong value. You could try charge your phone to 100%, usage it normally until 0%, until it turns off. Then charge it again to 100% and use it normally (don't discharge to 0% to many times, it just hurts the battery).
engmia said:
Oh so it's a brand new LG? How many hours of screen usage are you getting, what usage (web browsing, checking email or playing games?) and with what period of idle time.
Don't trust the numbers in the battery stats, especially in a new ROM. They are supposed to get better over time but I've found them to be wildly inaccurate even on months old ROM. I haven't really found an application you can benchmark accurately with.
But you compare with other (real) results on the foruns and rather you get the hang of what's the normal usage you should be getting out of a good battery.
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I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
dcop7 said:
Did you make a day without running any benchmark apps? What is your SOT? Standby time? Do you have location,wifi,bluetooth,NFC,mobile data on?
All of this matters. You shouldn't start right away with "I have problems with my battery" if you are running benchmark apps. Benchmark apps drains battery!
Wait a few days without running that apps and see how it manages. Another thing. The battery stats, the mah usage, not all of the things appears in the default android battery stats. And another thing, the battery value (the percentage of the battery), it is an approximation. Sometimes it could go up without charging, it is because it detected that has a wrong value. You could try charge your phone to 100%, usage it normally until 0%, until it turns off. Then charge it again to 100% and use it normally (don't discharge to 0% to many times, it just hurts the battery).
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OK i will try but it think you misunderstood i just want to run a benchmark to check i dont run them in the background constantsly now that would be
razakma16 said:
I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
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Streamed from the internet with at least 1h10 SOT, that is not bad. That is almost 4 hours SOT. If you have 1h12 minutes SOT, that is 4 hours. It is good.
razakma16 said:
I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
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Oh yeah, considering you even streamed the movie, it's signs of a good new and healthy battery. 3 hours of SoT with internet browsing is quite the norm, and 4 hours is on the up side.
I can barely get to 2 hours of SoT with my now aging battery.
engmia said:
Oh yeah, considering you even streamed the movie, it's signs of a good new and healthy battery. 3 hours of SoT with internet browsing is quite the norm, and 4 hours is on the up side.
I can barely get to 2 hours of SoT with my now aging battery.
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There are a few things you can try if you are rooted to improve battery.
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There are a few things you can try if you are rooted to improve battery.
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It's not about the software side of things, it's about that my battery is old now, and that's why happens to old batteries, the just deteriorate.
Thankfully the LG G3 has an easily replaceable battery, and I have a replacement waiting for me. Not getting a phone on which you can't remove the battery..
And never found those apps like Greenify to really work, at least in the last few years of Android. The OS seems to be doing just of a good a job and I see no improvement in battery life. Maybe they help in cases with poorly written apps that are draining your battery in the background, but I don't see why would you use such a software in the first place.
engmia said:
It's not about the software side of things, it's about that my battery is old now, and that's why happens to old batteries, the just deteriorate.
Thankfully the LG G3 has an easily replaceable battery, and I have a replacement waiting for me. Not getting a phone on which you can't remove the battery..
And never found those apps like Greenify to really work, at least in the last few years of Android. The OS seems to be doing just of a good a job and I see no improvement in battery life. Maybe they help in cases with poorly written apps that are draining your battery in the background, but I don't see why would you use such a software in the first place.
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There are other things. Try to disable assertive display. You can disable logd. Turn of VoLTE. I use greenify because the aggressive doze.

Quick Question on Battery Drain

I watched an hour of youtube and drained 6%. Do you guys get this same amount of drain on your mate 20x watching an hour on yt?
Is this considered normal on this phone with a 5000 mah battery?
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Yeap brother, i even got like 9-10% battery drain... is it normal.. But now it depends on the battery as well and the charging cycles... If you don't charge correctly, you're going to damage the battery in time... Cheers
filip_pine said:
Yeap brother, i even got like 9-10% battery drain... is it normal.. But now it depends on the battery as well and the charging cycles... If you don't charge correctly, you're going to damage the battery in time... Cheers
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Hey filip,
Thats wack unfortunately. I installed the accubattery app and it read that my true capacity was 4,584 mAh, not the 5,000 mAh battery capacity. Is this normal??? I feel like taking this phone back and either buying another one or just staying with my samsung a70. Anyway I hope you can answer my question.
Firstly please dont use 3rd party app as it get incorrect readings and worse they are the battery eater.
Also, I used both mate20x and the new note 10 plus, about half an hour of youtube (I know its bad but its the way to keep a toddler busy), m20x will drop 6 - 8% while note 10 plus will drop 15%.
Mate 20x is really a beast..
hippo1n2 said:
Also, I used both mate20x and the new note 10 plus, about half an hour of youtube (I know its bad but its the way to keep a toddler busy), m20x will drop 6 - 8% while note 10 plus will drop 15%.
Mate 20x is really a beast..
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Hey hippo1n2,
Wow.. on my mate 20x the batt drains 6% for watching 1 hour of yt.. I guess I'm ok then.

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