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Hi , guys , i want new phone for next 3 years. I am not planning to root it by any chance. I am done with that. I want phone for 550 dollars max. Tried Note 3 ,amazing but camera weak in low light. Going to swap it for G3 or Z2. Now i have to decide. Want reliable phone , no rooting , fast and snapp , 5,2 inch or more , one of the best cameras , price 550 dollars max.
Thank you.
If its not theZ3, go with the G3. Z2 is "obsolete" in tech world. (Oh i'm so gonna get flamed for saying that xD)
We'll be getting Lollipop in a couple of days, its fast and snappy, and the phone has a great camera, great battery and a great screen.
Lowlight isnt impressive, but then again, which phone Lumias and the new iPhones aside is...?
If Battery life is your main concern, Then Go for Z3(Dont buy Z2)
Z3 Battery Endurance Can Differ from 5Hours SOT on heavy usage to 6.30Hours SOT on Moderate
Battery Life on G3 is Average. .. Coming from Moto E which gives me Atleast 5-5.30Hours SOT ON HEAVY USAGE, I'M disappointed In LG G3.. Feels Like I'M Regretting buying this...
Battery Problems Aside, It A very Good Phone/Phablet
I own a Z2. In a few weeks my wife will be eligable for an upgrade and will have my Z2 whilst I get a new phone.
Z2 has great battery life, easily the best of any android phone I've had (About 8 since HTC Hero) and camera is great too.
Low light is way better than any previous phone I've had. In a slightly dark room the photo comes out looking brighter than it looks to the human eye. Yes you'll get noise but way better than say One X or Nexus 4.
I'm thinking of getting a G3 rather than a Z3, for following reasons:
Looks. I find the Sony phones a bit boring. And G3 bezel impresses me.
Removable cover. This means I can replace the battery. My wife's One X is 2.5 years old and battery is rubbish now, it needs replacing. Battery life will steadily decline after 1 year so think how long u will have phone.
I'd say camera is fairly similar so not much difference there.
Battery life is prob better for Z2 but its rare for me not to have mine charging in work and I rarely have to have it last a long time without charging anyway.
So for me, a G3.
But you'd never complain if you got a Z2 instead.
Hey guys,
I'm moving away from my LG G3 3GB RAM 32 GB to Zenfone 2 4GB RAM 16 GB.
The most disappointing to my LG G3 was battery life and the un-needed 2K screen.
The differences are a removeable 3000 lithium-ion vs a non-removeable 3000 lithium-polymer battery. On GSM arena it is showing 63 hrs endurance vs 59 hrs for the Zenfone 2.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6294&idPhone2=6917
The reviews are very positive for the Zenfone 2, but I don't read much about the battery life? I'm not really a poweruser. You can find me usually on chrome reading stuff and apps like TapaTalk... What do you guys think? I'm really disappointed in the LG G3 and I have used it for about a year now.
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Hey guys,
I'm moving away from my LG G3 3GB RAM 32 GB to Zenfone 2 4GB RAM 16 GB.
The most disappointing to my LG G3 was battery life and the un-needed 2K screen.
The differences are a removeable 3000 lithium-ion vs a non-removeable 3000 lithium-polymer battery. On GSM arena it is showing 63 hrs endurance vs 59 hrs for the Zenfone 2.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6294&idPhone2=6917
The reviews are very positive for the Zenfone 2, but I don't read much about the battery life? I'm not really a poweruser. You can find me usually on chrome reading stuff and apps like TapaTalk... What do you guys think? I'm really disappointed in the LG G3 and I have used it for about a year now.
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I do the same thing with minimal social apps (twitter, and such for just news updates) and it lasts me 36-40 hours with 4-5 hours of screen on time. However, your standby may be different to mine if you don't root since I was using Greenify, Amplify, and Power Nap. I believe it is somewhere in the 18-25 hours or so with 4-5 hours of screen on time without these apps (This is of course saying that you use the phone for 4 or 5 hours in the day, it will easily last you close to two days if you do say 2 hours today and maybe 1- 2 hours the next).
Agree in few things
G1-Amateur said:
Hey guys,
I'm moving away from my LG G3 3GB RAM 32 GB to Zenfone 2 4GB RAM 16 GB.
The most disappointing to my LG G3 was battery life and the un-needed 2K screen.
The differences are a removeable 3000 lithium-ion vs a non-removeable 3000 lithium-polymer battery. On GSM arena it is showing 63 hrs endurance vs 59 hrs for the Zenfone 2.
The reviews are very positive for the Zenfone 2, but I don't read much about the battery life? I'm not really a poweruser. You can find me usually on chrome reading stuff and apps like TapaTalk... What do you guys think? I'm really disappointed in the LG G3 and I have used it for about a year now.
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I am agree about the screen on the g3 so much ppi, only with a bionic eye can see it :silly: , 1080p and 401 ppi is more than excellent on the zenfone 2, BUT about the battery life, im not sure if you are going to find it "better".
PD: Tomorrow im going to get my zenfone 2, So i cant say much, only what i have read on comments and reviews...
Thanks guys,
Someone experienced the galaxy S4 or xperia z2? I've heard their battery life is excellent...
And whats up with the 39 minute "quick" charge? I m using my 2 Amps DELL tablet to charge my phone and this charges fast too?
Also, if your zenfone does not react and the screen stays black... How do you reset the battery? I had it a few times and removed the battery in such extreme cases; but what about a non renoveable battery?
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Thanks guys,
Someone experienced the galaxy S4 or xperia z2? I've heard their battery life is excellent...
And whats up with the 39 minute "quick" charge? I m using my 2 Amps DELL tablet to charge my phone and this charges fast too?
Also, if your zenfone does not react and the screen stays black... How do you reset the battery? I had it a few times and removed the battery in such extreme cases; but what about a non renoveable battery?
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Yes, battery life on those two is very good.
Quick Charge only applies to the wall adapter since the usb connection to any other device doesn't provide enough amps for it to charge that fast. 2 amps on usb versus 11 amps on the wall charger.
Holding down the power button for a continuous 10-15 seconds forces shutdown so the non-removable battery should be fine.
Christopher876 said:
Yes, battery life on those two is very good.
Quick Charge only applies to the wall adapter since the usb connection to any other device doesn't provide enough amps for it to charge that fast. 2 amps on usb versus 11 amps on the wall charger.
Holding down the power button for a continuous 10-15 seconds forces shutdown so the non-removable battery should be fine.
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Great tip.
I've move from LG G3 to zenfone 2 (lost my G3 )and can say... Zenfone 2 is way better than G3. Faster, better battery life (+1h SOT) but G3 have a bigger comunity (more roms, mod's,etc). But i'm pretty happy with zenfone
What does SOT mean?
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What does SOT mean?
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Screen-On-Time.
I see. Cheers.
Spec-wise, this phone seems great, with the glaring exception of the battery's size.
I'm hoping someone with the phone could let me know, ideally as detailed as possible, what the battery life is like. Thanks!
duraaraa said:
Spec-wise, this phone seems great, with the glaring exception of the battery's size.
I'm hoping someone with the phone could let me know, ideally as detailed as possible, what the battery life is like. Thanks!
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Initial tests mentioned a screen on time of 4h+, which is nothing to write home about.
On another hand, even though we have a "mere" 3k mAh battery & 5.7" screen, the latter is amoled, which should offer considerable savings as compared to LCD.
I'm waiting for my unit to be shipped, will do some tests & share.
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Initial tests mentioned a screen on time of 4h+, which is nothing to write home about.
On another hand, even though we have a "mere" 3k mAh battery & 5.7" screen, the latter is amoled, which should offer considerable savings as compared to LCD.
I'm waiting for my unit to be shipped, will do some tests & share.
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This is why it is somewhat tempting to go with the $399 5.5" model and the Snapdragon 625. You lose a bit from the 5.7" SD 820: no AMOLED, smaller sensor in the camera, only 4 GB of RAM, but based on battery tests with other phones with the 625, the life could be better than the 820 model.
Review units in the U.S. are starting to appear, TechnoBuffalo recently received their 5.7" and did a quick preview on it.
FYI. PCMagazine has a review up of the 5.7", SD 820 version. They managed about 7 1/4 hours on their video run-down test. The Axon 7 with the same test ran about 6 hours, Samsung S7 Edge, around 10(!).
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FYI. PCMagazine has a review up of the 5.7", SD 820 version. They managed about 7 1/4 hours on their video run-down test. The Axon 7 with the same test ran about 6 hours, Samsung S7 Edge, around 10(!).
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They panned the phone though. TechnoBuffalo loved it, but PC Mag said the camera was shoddy and the UI is absurdly intrusive.
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They panned the phone though. TechnoBuffalo loved it, but PC Mag said the camera was shoddy and the UI is absurdly intrusive.
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CNet liked the regular Zenfone 3 in a recent review. Though they too, thought the Zen UI was way too heavy. Seems to be a problem with some of the imported Android phones lately.
At this point I won't get a Deluxe unless it can be rooted, which I think is likely to happen based on Zenfone 3 progress.
It's the best thing you can atheistically look at. Battery life will get you one day of strong usage. Which combined with USB type-c that's nothing to be bothered by. I'd give the overall phone a solid 8.5 out of 10.
Battery life is terrible.
The same apps I use with no issues on other devices (including other sd820) cause a severe battery drain on the z3d.
My guess is the power management policy in the HAL, framework, or issues with the scheduler on the kernel level.
Initial investigation points to communication apps (Riot, Conversations), which cause a lot of wakelocks (then again, no such issues on other devices).
Once (& if) we have a bootloader unlock, this will be one of the first topics to address in custom kernel builds or custom rom builds.
I go ten hours at work with 2 plus screen time, 30-45 minutes on phone, 3 emails syncing, Facebook, instagram, Snapchat, two phone numbers, and I leave with 50% battery.
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I'm in the same boat as mostly everyone else here. I'm heavily on my phone while at work as well (roughly 6 hours of constant use on most days with heavy internet usage as well). I stay at work 2 days in a row every 3 days, and in that time frame, I still go home with 30-40% battery still left on my phone.
If I were still using my note 4, I would have had to put the phone e on the charger twice a day for both of those days.
Plus, with the dual SIM feature, I don't have to carry around a work phone. My boss was more than happy to get me a nano SIM for my pho e when he found out both my work phone and personal phone would be one in the same and easier to contact.
So yeah, with the above stated, for me, the battery life is way better than what I have put up with on the note 4 for the past 2 years.
Battery is great for me. I don't have a SIM yet but use Google hangouts/Voice# and am constantly on my phone browsing and using different apps. I charged it 7 hours ago, it has 3 hours of screen on time so far, and battery is at 57%. It says it has 9 hours left (based on my current rate, I will probably hut around 7 hours of screen on time. That is on High Performance, though also without a mobile network connected. I am constantly connected to and using wifi though and location is on too.)
Plus with QC3, my phone charges from dead to full in an hour. It is crazy fast.
Edit: Correction, I am in Power Saving mode as I guess I clicked into it when prompted last time my battery drained and forgot to switch back. Didn't notice a performance difference though so maybe I'll stick with this mode until I play a game. Next time I recharge, I will put it in High Performance and record my Screen on time then.
Hi, i have been noticing that my battery its just getting me through the day with 4hs SOT in 14 or 15 hs of use. I have tried many roms and kernels and there is no difference. My phone its not too old (1 year and a half) so i wanted to ask you how was your battery doing. And if mines dying. (Sorry for poor english)
lineage os 15.1
I get from 4.5-6h of SOT depends on how heavy or how many pics I abuse the phone
stock pie, I barely get 2.5h of SOT and if I go heavy use on it, I barely crack 2h
18 months is more than average use, and that usage is normal, and mine is exactly like yours by the way, and the device is of same age too LoL. I am gonna keep using it like this and when SoT drops below 3 hour mark might consider replacing the battery. You can already consider changing the battery anyway.
PS: Tip, stop using those stupid Adaptive ****s Pie brought, both the battery and brightness thingy, those do nothing except drain more.
SaberJ2X said:
lineage os 15.1
I get from 4.5-6h of SOT depends on how heavy or how many pics I abuse the phone
stock pie, I barely get 2.5h of SOT and if I go heavy use on it, I barely crack 2h
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What about like stock pie with a custom kernel?
Stock Pie here, latest security, just rooted with TWRP.
Get about 2.5 with mixed media and gaming and little gaming I can get about 3.5 hours SOT. Just got the phone about two weeks ago, coming from a 6P. Accubattery shows 71 battery health.
It's not too bad but not that great either. Personally it gets me through work and back home and it charges very fast using the 6P charger even when gaming.
I wish the battery was better, other than that I LOVE my Pixel XL!
Stock Pie, not touched, not modified, not rooted. Perfectly happy with battery life so far, up to 8 h. SOT, up to 1 day of moderate usage.
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Stock Pie, not touched, not modified, not rooted. Perfectly happy with battery life so far, up to 8 h. SOT, up to 1 day of moderate usage.
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Can you share some more details regarding what apps you have used, was it on WiFi full time and the brightness of the display?
ylapas said:
Stock Pie, not touched, not modified, not rooted. Perfectly happy with battery life so far, up to 8 h. SOT, up to 1 day of moderate usage.
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8h SOT seems pretty crazy for a 2 year old device but I can see it. Mine usually gets upwards of 5-6 depending on what games I'm playing on it etc. Mind you I'm rooted with a custom kernel installed. Either way I am still very much impressed with the Pixels battery life.
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8h SOT seems pretty crazy for a 2 year old device but I can see it. Mine usually gets upwards of 5-6 depending on what games I'm playing on it etc. Mind you I'm rooted with a custom kernel installed. Either way I am still very much impressed with the Pixels battery life.
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Well, in my case is totally possible as the one in my hands is only two months old
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Stock Pie, not touched, not modified, not rooted. Perfectly happy with battery life so far, up to 8 h. SOT, up to 1 day of moderate usage.
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Sorry to say, but are you sure you didn't charge your phone to 90 percent and unplug it a few times? That doesn't reset SOT.
Hard to believe that my phone is still bate minimun, stock Pie and can barely squeeze 3.5 hours SOT out of it at 72 percent battery health.
There are legit nothing keeping my phone awake either. I use gsam and BetterBatteryStats.
There is no way you're getting 8 hours SOT on a two year old devices, when even the Note 9 isn't getting anywhere near that.
As I have mentioned before, the one in my hands is brand new, born from Pie. So I am holding barely 2 months old device, far away from two years and it easily last from morning till next morning. 8 hours of SOT is possible depending on usage, double checked. Even GSM arena test says it's holding 11 hours of video playback. Moderate usage, dark themes in every possible app, some YouTube, Facebook, Google Play Music, browsing, on WiFi almost 24 /7, up to 30 min calling per day. But no gaming at all.
My first screen shot may be a bit confusing one as I unplugged my device from charger while taking it and posting. 5 h SOT, half juice left, but it will go a bit faster now, never exceed 8 hours here. If you are using if for processor intensive task I agree 4-5 hours will be most what you'll get.
Stats at this moment.
How do you guys get such crazy battery life?! I'm lucky to scrape in an hour of screen on time! And that's just using it to look at Facebook and Snapchat here and there.
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Custom pie rom here. I usually average about 5 hrs sot. Sometimes if im just texting and light browsing I'll get to 3 hrs at 50% but no matter what else i do it magically ends at about 5 hrs even when Im on track for 6. Now if I start using snapchat, youtube, camera the battery drops like a rock and I'll show only 3.5 maybe 4 hours. this is with LTE, not much wifi, but that doesnt seem to alter the outcome much one way or another.
Oh and share, Im getting 1 less with pie compared to oreo. Someone in another thread tried to tell me it was just me and my phone but looks like thread everywhere show pie is a battery bogger.
What's a good app to measure battery health
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hi I'm actually xda passive user from 2011, since then I always using sony devices (xperia arc, xperia SP, xperia Z2 xperia XA2 Ultra, XZ Premium) but this is my first time to have an account and be active user. My pixel XL using custom pie rom (liquid remix) and kingkernel by KingBri, Blu_Schedutil gov can least up to 4.5-5hours SOT in 30% LTE and 70% wifi moderate use (WA,IG,Youtube,Chrome) but it can drop to 3-4hours SoT when I'm gaming PUBGM for total 1hour. I think thats good remind I bought second hand Pixel XL in Indonesia just about less than 2 weeks ago. sorry no screenshot because I forgot to capture it when still in liwuid remix and now I'm in BootLeggerROM 3.5 Pie and wanna test the differences. Thank you :good::good:
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6 month old, so far everything is good.
Stock Pie I get maybe 3 hours SOT without any gaming... 70 percent battery health.
Hello
I just received my s20 plus for a week now and the battery life just like my old s7 edge after 4 years .. 3.5 to 4.5 SOT .
Is this normal ?
Same here mate, but this might improve with software updates.... At least I hope so
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Same here mate, but this might improve with software updates.... At least I hope so
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I hope.. i am afraid that the device has high power consumption design that with time should only get worse.
Give it 4 days to settle down. But yes it does drain faster than s10+. I knew that before pre-ordering but I thought Samsung would have figured something out...
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Guys this is completely normal for the phone to drain this fast, the phone is learning all your usage patterns in order to adjust the battery, use this time to go over the settings and tweak it to your liking. Also in the s10+ forum there is a battery optimisation post, go over there and apply it to your phone. Also maybe you are using the ultra high definition and 120hz, maybe start with that to tweak it.
Another thing is if you just restore the phone from a backup, this can bring corrupted settings that might be the culprits do factory reset and install all from zero without a backup.
''maybe you are using the ultra high definition and 120hz, maybe start with that to tweak it.''
thats physically IMPOSSIBLE now
I assume that you are using the exynos versions?
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I had 7 1/2 sot yesterday SD 120hz
Second day, 120Hz is lovely but damn, I'm at home connected to my WiFi and it's draining like crazy, I'm worried how is it gonna look when I go outdoors to the college and will be using LTE. I'm on Exynos
I'm getting 2 hours of SOT through my day (7 am to 10 pm)
It's been a week that I've been using the Exynos version @ 120Hz RR. Battery life is way worse than S10+ on similar settings, tweaks and usage pattern.
I have charged my phone for the 2nd time and i get +- 5 hours of sot. I use everything on the phone, 120hz etc. The battery is still in the learning pattern phase...getting same battery life as I got on my S10+. I get roughly 24 hours with one charge and 6 hours is included when I sleep...The battery will get better. With my S10+ I got 24-36 hours of battery time with +- 3-5 hours sot...depending on usage...So if I can get the same or a bit better I would be very happy
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It's been a week that I've been using the Exynos version @ 120Hz RR. Battery life is way worse than S10+ on similar settings, tweaks and usage pattern.
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True. Battery life is horrible. I don't want to use such a phone tbh
iamnotkurtcobain said:
True. Battery life is horrible. I don't want to use such a phone tbh
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I'm reading pretty bad about the Exynos Ultra as well in different but reliable sources. It's a pain to have a primary driver that dies mid-day on medium usage, that era of "unacceptable batterylife" on a flagship is believed to be over years back. I remember me behaving in an uncivilized? manner with the ones who tried to defend Exynos S9+ in every online forum when the culprit was the SoC itself to start with..
no wonder they didnt want to enable 120hz at 2K res - it would kill the battery in 1h probably
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I had 7 1/2 sot yesterday SD 120hz
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7.5hrs screen on time? How? First person I've heard that high.
I have the S20+ with the snapdragon processor. I think the battery life is very good, way better than my P4XL. I have 4 hours sot right now and have 60% left. I'm using 120 hz refresh rate. I believe it has gotten better over time, either from "settling" or updates, or maybe my imagination, haven't actually checked but some nights I go to bed after a day of light use and I'm shocked at the battery left. I unplug at 6am and at 10pm I've seen 80% battery left. That's minimal use like I said, not a typical day.
I think the battery life is quite alright, on par with my second phone (OnePlus 7 pro)
Exynos/12gb ram/120hz: stranded on 12%, so it would be around 7.5hours of SOT in full day.
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I have the snapdragon version and the battery on this thing is a BEAST!
Going on 34 hours off the charger and 7 hours of sot. I have done nothing to conserve battery. Loads of apps/accounts syncing. I am super impressed. Way better then my s10+ was.
120hz on, about mid-brightness, I'm lasting all day use with my personal usage habits. Battery life is as good if not a bit better than on my Note 10+. Snapdragon here on T-Mobile. Mostly WiFi. But it's only been about a week of use.
Can't complain at all.
ETA: Also BT always on using with my Frontier watch and Galaxy Buds on occasion.