no low battery warning? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i know i can just get a battery alert from the play store. but, does anyone else have no low battery alert on the G4, or is mine not functioning right? i'd rather have a in-built warning enabled, rather than a third party app, can't find the setting though...

reg66 said:
i know i can just get a battery alert from the play store. but, does anyone else have no low battery alert on the G4, or is mine not functioning right? i'd rather have a in-built warning enabled, rather than a third party app, can't find the setting though...
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Works fine here (h815, V10d) - pops up at 15% and at 5%

Cheers bud, mine gives no warning at all - H815 v10d also. Maybe something went amiss with flashing root injection

reg66 said:
Cheers bud, mine gives no warning at all - H815 v10d also. Maybe something went amiss with flashing root injection
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Ah, things can go wrong while roothing with that method. I went down the Unlock> TWRP> Flash way and everything is fine.

bit the bullet today and hard factory reset to see if that cures it. no joy. looks like i'm stuck with a 3rd party app. still, if that's only thing wrong after extracting img, injecting root and flashing back, then i can't really complain. had a few fc's in playstore since the factory reset though - no biggy

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[Q] Status Bar

At first I thought I was the only one suffering from this annoyance, but then I saw this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvTFu6UKJI
See, the problem is that whenever I send or receive a message, this icon pops up. At first I thought I was delusional, but then it repeatedly became clear that this was truly a bug. I managed to get a screenshot of it (which was really difficult considering that it only pops up for about half a second). I want to know if I anyone else has had this issue, and whether or not someone found a workaround from it popping up. Anyone at all?
Are you using Hangouts?
Nope! Stock everything, and unrooted. Using the HTC messaging app
hezirance said:
At first I thought I was the only one suffering from this annoyance, but then I saw this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvTFu6UKJI
See, the problem is that whenever I send or receive a message, this icon pops up. At first I thought I was delusional, but then it repeatedly became clear that this was truly a bug. I managed to get a screenshot of it (which was really difficult considering that it only pops up for about half a second). I want to know if I anyone else has had this issue, and whether or not someone found a workaround from it popping up. Anyone at all?
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Hey man I got the same thing going on. had this happening on stock and it still happens in any other stock sense 6 based rom that I have tried but I dont know what it is.
Technowhiteboi said:
Hey man I got the same thing going on. had this happening on stock and it still happens in any other stock sense 6 based rom that I have tried but I dont know what it is.
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Probably Carrier IQ for some reason tracking your location. My LG G2 does the same thing.
hezirance said:
At first I thought I was the only one suffering from this annoyance, but then I saw this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvTFu6UKJI
See, the problem is that whenever I send or receive a message, this icon pops up. At first I thought I was delusional, but then it repeatedly became clear that this was truly a bug. I managed to get a screenshot of it (which was really difficult considering that it only pops up for about half a second). I want to know if I anyone else has had this issue, and whether or not someone found a workaround from it popping up. Anyone at all?
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This bothered me as well, but I have since gotten rid of it. Granted that you're rooted, you can download an Xposed module called NotifyClean. It listens for "notifications" in the status bar, and you have the option to disable them. Download/install/activate the module, turn on the listening feature, and send a message. When you go back into NotifyClean, you'll see "Data Usage". Select that, then select "Data usage is running". It should highlight the selection in red, and ultimately get rid of the little annoying icon that shows up for a split second.
It seems that I'm not the only one having an issue. Well hopefully there's a better work around for this because I don't plan rooting my phone for a long time! Flashing roms and tweaks could be addicting haha! Hopefully someone finds a better fix to hide this annoying notification!
hezirance said:
It seems that I'm not the only one having an issue. Well hopefully there's a better work around for this because I don't plan rooting my phone for a long time! Flashing roms and tweaks could be addicting haha! Hopefully someone finds a better fix to hide this annoying notification!
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Yeah, take it from someone that flashed a ROM today and every mod/tweak I could find... it gets addicting. I spent 8 hours at my computer today going over various mods and personalizing my phone. Unfortunately, I can't think of anything to help with your issue that doesn't involve root. If you know what is causing the notification then you may be able to go into settings>apps>all and disable the offender?
My Beer Belly said:
Yeah, take it from someone that flashed a ROM today and every mod/tweak I could find... it gets addicting. I spent 8 hours at my computer today going over various mods and personalizing my phone. Unfortunately, I can't think of anything to help with your issue that doesn't involve root. If you know what is causing the notification then you may be able to go into settings>apps>all and disable the offender?
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I managed to get a screenshot, and I checked what app was causing it but it was a system app called "Data Usage". Anyone know how to turn off data usage notifications? Turning off data usage alert doesn't help
This is normal behavior. While it shouldn't be popping up, its normal as in that it is what is done when a SMS/MMS is sent while on WiFi.
You can locate the app through Application Manager and tap it to Disable Notifications. This doesnt require root or anything.
Taking shots in the dark here, but there is a data usage section under wireless & networks in settings. In that menu there is a toggle for 'alert me about data usage'. You can then drag a slider up and down to set the cap for when your phone warns you about data usage. Maybe yours is dragged to the very bottom so it alerts you about any data usage?
Unlikely because it would show up during everything, but worth asking. Maybe just disabling the notification toggle would work. Also, does your carrier ship with specific software to monitor data usage? If so then check all of those apps settings to see if anything has any effect.
It doesn't matter whether or not the wifi is on, it still annoyingly pops up. I meant that you really can't disable notifications as it is a system app
My Beer Belly said:
Taking shots in the dark here, but there is a data usage section under wireless & networks in settings. In that menu there is a toggle for 'alert me about data usage'. You can then drag a slider up and down to set the cap for when your phone warns you about data usage. Maybe yours is dragged to the very bottom so it alerts you about any data usage?
Unlikely because it would show up during everything, but worth asking. Maybe just disabling the notification toggle would work. Also, does your carrier ship with specific software to monitor data usage? If so then check all of those apps settings to see if anything has any effect.
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I've tried that too! It still pops up, and it annoys me. Thanks for the effort though!
No, I don't think so. My S3 never did this. My phone is unlocked from HK
lostangelintx said:
Probably Carrier IQ for some reason tracking your location. My LG G2 does the same thing.
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I read its some type of traffic usage. Someone here posted a picture of it here. Also I have an option on the ROM I'm running to hide that notification. O don't think its carrier IQ but then again.

Phone got SO hot last night :/

So last night my phone was acting weird. Wouldn't send text and was kinda dying faster than usual.
I got it fully charged and went to sleep. Unplugged it after it was charged....I woke up like 4 hours later, the phone was at 6% and was seriously SO hot... I thought it was going to burst into flames. I turned it off a little to cool down and after checked the battery stats.. "Google play services" 35% Keep awake 5h 23m 26s -- CPU total 1h 24m
I need a little help because its still kinda warm
Anyone
Get greenified and greenify google play services. You need "pro" version to greenify system apps.
Next time phone starts acting up, restart it.
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Helloworld294 said:
Get greenified and greenify google play services. You need "pro" version to greenify system apps.
Next time phone starts acting up, restart it.
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I shall download it!..phones getting hot again around 30% and its acting up..the download of the app keeps stopping at 67% ugh
EDIT: got the app, paid version, cant find google play services in the picker to even greenify it
I had this after several ota updates, did a full wipe flash to 10i (latest) and it's been done ever since.
mjb152 said:
I had this after several ota updates, did a full wipe flash to 10i (latest) and it's been done ever since.
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See my phone isn't even rooted! I have the tmobile version and I will admit after the ota update that happened not to long ago it's been giving me probs.
Also... My phone drained it's self last night while I was sleeping. It was around 85% and I woke up it was dead. I think I gotta factory reset it
sorry, I'd assumed you'ds rooted it. Definitely do a factory reset, you've got some pain backing up and restoring apps though.
If you root and use titanium, that gets much easier
mjb152 said:
sorry, I'd assumed you'ds rooted it. Definitely do a factory reset, you've got some pain backing up and restoring apps though.
If you root and use titanium, that gets much easier
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Yeah I've rooted my last 3 phones but this one I've been just waiting and keeping it stock. Funny story: about 7 years of having rooted phones... Never used and app back up and just did it myself :x haha.
I'm just gonna back up the pics now and do it
mjb152 said:
sorry, I'd assumed you'ds rooted it. Definitely do a factory reset, you've got some pain backing up and restoring apps though.
If you root and use titanium, that gets much easier
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Now I'm contemplating if I should just root it haha
I always tell myself I won't mess with the device I buy. But then I always end up rooting lol
I think root and then install xposed, and you'll get access to a whole heap of functionality.
I did this and also use tasker, and I'm very happy.
Reverting back to a non rooted phone is very easy should you need to.
The reason I rooted was to make the external sd card writable, and also to perform the headphone mod for volume increase.
So can anyone confirm that to stop this its as easy as using the paid version if Greenify, the OP said he couldnt find it in the list?
seems everyone has this problem, i struck it on my old Galaxy, took me ages to sort it
Well now maybe I'll just root it. Any idea what the best way to root the tmobile version is
Vivasanti said:
So can anyone confirm that to stop this its as easy as using the paid version if Greenify, the OP said he couldnt find it in the list?
seems everyone has this problem, i struck it on my old Galaxy, took me ages to sort it
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Google Play Services has been updating I believe and causing issues for some. If your issues don't stop after a couple days and with some reboots you could always root the phone and try Greenify like suggested, although so many things depend on GPS that typically it won't Hibernate easily.
Factory resets, clear cache/Dalvic and reboots can help.
xzero425x said:
Well now maybe I'll just root it. Any idea what the best way to root the tmobile version is
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I'd definitely root that phone! Use Stump Root found in the Original Development Forum. Also, you can run a custom recovery on your TMobile G3 and with that you can make nandroid backups in case whatever you decide to do to your phone goes badly, you can easily restore it. Your very lucky to have that option, your G3 is the only one right now with a true untethered custom recovery.
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[Q] LG G4 H815 Not rotating/Accelerometer stuck

I randomly realized my G4 wasn't rotating the screen anymore and I have since tried everything - factory resetting, calibrating the sensor (doesn't work) and even the banging phone on table method, none are successful.
This may indicate that it is a hardware issue but if I hold the phone landscape and open the camera the buttons do rotate, but if I rotate whilst already inside the app nothing changes so I'm not exactly sure what is going on. When I use the app CPU-Z to track the accelerometer value it stays static until I turn the screen off and move the phone a bit, when I turn it on the value changes again but stays still.
Any idea what the cause is??
does booting into safe mode make any difference (i know you said factory reset, but I'm curious).
Also, probably won't, but is there any difference whilst the phone is charging?
Throwing this out there. Did you debloat? On the Samsung models, if you uninstall the Hub app, rotation gets broken for some weird reason. I don't know what that would be on the G4, but maybe? Just a random guess.
lawrence750 said:
does booting into safe mode make any difference (i know you said factory reset, but I'm curious).
Also, probably won't, but is there any difference whilst the phone is charging?
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I'll try booting into safe mode, and there's no difference while charging.
pre4speed said:
Throwing this out there. Did you debloat? On the Samsung models, if you uninstall the Hub app, rotation gets broken for some weird reason. I don't know what that would be on the G4, but maybe? Just a random guess.
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I believe I did remove a few apps but since I factory reset and flashed a fresh image I believe they should be restored?
wilfred888 said:
I'll try booting into safe mode, and there's no difference while charging.
I believe I did remove a few apps but since I factory reset and flashed a fresh image I believe they should be restored?
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Not necessarily. I know a factory reset doesn't restore any previously removed apps, and flashing factory a fresh image depends on how it's flashed I've discovered. Only a CSC restores the phone to factory specs, while other methods didn't for me.
pre4speed said:
Not necessarily. I know a factory reset doesn't restore any previously removed apps, and flashing factory a fresh image depends on how it's flashed I've discovered. Only a CSC restores the phone to factory specs, while other methods didn't for me.
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Safe mode didn't help, and I actually don't know which ones I removed but they looked pretty normal, how do I check or compare vs stock?
wilfred888 said:
Safe mode didn't help, and I actually don't know which ones I removed but they looked pretty normal, how do I check or compare vs stock?
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I think I recall seeing a debloat list somewhere. See if you can find it and compare what you've got. I'm not saying this is the problem, but it could be.
pre4speed said:
I think I recall seeing a debloat list somewhere. See if you can find it and compare what you've got. I'm not saying this is the problem, but it could be.
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Yeah I found a few lists but they only have apps that are safe to remove and don't warn or mention possible ones that cause problems which I may have already removed
wilfred888 said:
I randomly realized my G4 wasn't rotating the screen anymore and I have since tried everything - factory resetting, calibrating the sensor (doesn't work) and even the banging phone on table method, none are successful.
This may indicate that it is a hardware issue but if I hold the phone landscape and open the camera the buttons do rotate, but if I rotate whilst already inside the app nothing changes so I'm not exactly sure what is going on. When I use the app CPU-Z to track the accelerometer value it stays static until I turn the screen off and move the phone a bit, when I turn it on the value changes again but stays still.
Any idea what the cause is??
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I had the exact problem a few weeks ago, thought my hardware was already flaking. Don't remember what I did to get it working, but it wasn't overly complex.. Rebooting didn't help, I think I pulled the battery, waited a bit, and then rebooted and then went to calibration from there.
Do you happen to have xposed installed by the way?
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strikelight said:
I had the exact problem a few weeks ago, thought my hardware was already flaking. Don't remember what I did to get it working, but it wasn't overly complex.. Rebooting didn't help, I think I pulled the battery, waited a bit, and then rebooted and then went to calibration from there.
Do you happen to have xposed installed by the way?
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Hey thanks for your reply, I am trying now the battery pulling method, did you then calibrate through the sensor in display settings?
And yeah I do, hmm not sure if it stopped working after that actually.. but I remember after I flashed a fresh .kdz even without xposed it still doesn't work.
wilfred888 said:
Hey thanks for your reply, I am trying now the battery pulling method, did you then calibrate through the sensor in display settings?
And yeah I do, hmm not sure if it stopped working after that actually.. but I remember after I flashed a fresh .kdz even without xposed it still doesn't work.
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Yea would have been the calibration from the regular settings.
As for xposed, flashing a kdz will keep user data and settings.. It might have been gravitybox causing the issue for me, which if you uninstall that, reboot and reinstall it, might help. Same goes for any other modules you had enabled.
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strikelight said:
Yea would have been the calibration from the regular settings.
As for xposed, flashing a kdz will keep user data and settings.. It might have been gravitybox causing the issue for me, which if you uninstall that, reboot and reinstall it, might help. Same goes for any other modules you had enabled.
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Oh yeah it did but I factory reset as well so... I never installed gravitybox since I heard there were some problems with it but I'll see if there are any modules causing issues.
Silly question: Have you tried clicking the rotation icon in the pull-down notifications bar?
alamo76 said:
Silly question: Have you tried clicking the rotation icon in the pull-down notifications bar?
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Yeah I have I don't even know there are signs that point towards it being a hardware or a software issue tbh.
Problem happened to me too. Started yesterday, sometimes worked, sometimes stuck on portrait.
Shutting down and pulling the battery for a few seconds seems to do the trick. It works properly now..
Have you been used apps which could calibrate the accelerometer before?
etc. some games that needs to be controlled by rotating the phone on its axis..
onotor said:
Have you been used apps which could calibrate the accelerometer before?
etc. some games that needs to be controlled by rotating the phone on its axis..
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Me? Not that I know. Some new apps yes, but still proper screen rotation.
This problem happened on my g4 today...
Stock ROM?
LG 4 not rotating??
quick fix which worked for me was just take the battery out, wait 30 seconds, put back in switch on and problem solved...
hope this helps guys.... regards Steve

Problems with screen brightness, LED notifications, Xprivacy / slowness

So I seem to have a whole bunch of problems with my D851, and am curious if others have the same problems and know of fixes. Mine has 20g (stock Lollipop) installed, and is rooted.
Main problem: enabling Xprivacy makes this phone become significantly slower. The settings menu crawls with Xprivacy turned on. Anyone else experience this?
Auto brightness is *way* too dim to use. Surely, I must not be the only person experiencing this? I see a few people mention it in passing, but it doesn't seem to be an big deal. Are people not using auto brightness? Or do most folks not have this issue? All other devices I have with Lollipop allow a brightness range if set on auto. This one doesn't ? Can I get this feature somehow?
Even when I set the brightness manually, it keeps getting reset to 100% some half the times it wakes up from sleep. Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone know of a fix?
Also, the display off time never gets set. I set it to 30sec or 1min, and it always gets reset two 2 min.
The notification LED is virtually useless. It blinks once in like 20 seconds when I get an email (gmail app). I rely on this. Is there a fix to get it to blink every second or 2 seconds? Light manager didn't work.
What I don't understand is, since I experienced all these issue on pretty much a phone out of the box + rooted, I'm surprised they don't seem to be common problems.
Thanks in advance.
fivemill said:
So I seem to have a whole bunch of problems with my D851, and am curious if others have the same problems and know of fixes. Mine has 20g (stock Lollipop) installed, and is rooted.
Main problem: enabling Xprivacy makes this phone become significantly slower. The settings menu crawls with Xprivacy turned on. Anyone else experience this?
Auto brightness is *way* too dim to use. Surely, I must not be the only person experiencing this? I see a few people mention it in passing, but it doesn't seem to be an big deal. Are people not using auto brightness? Or do most folks not have this issue? All other devices I have with Lollipop allow a brightness range if set on auto. This one doesn't ? Can I get this feature somehow?
Even when I set the brightness manually, it keeps getting reset to 100% some half the times it wakes up from sleep. Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone know of a fix?
Also, the display off time never gets set. I set it to 30sec or 1min, and it always gets reset two 2 min.
The notification LED is virtually useless. It blinks once in like 20 seconds when I get an email (gmail app). I rely on this. Is there a fix to get it to blink every second or 2 seconds? Light manager didn't work.
What I don't understand is, since I experienced all these issue on pretty much a phone out of the box + rooted, I'm surprised they don't seem to be common problems.
Thanks in advance.
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I think maybe you got a dud. Try flashing a rom and see if problems stop,if they don't then get another phone through warranty
Still_living714 said:
I think maybe you got a dud. Try flashing a rom and see if problems stop,if they don't then get another phone through warranty
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Thanks, I think that was a part of it, but not all of it. I tried flashing stock on a different unit, and I found that the brightness issue was largely (but not fully) better, and the display settings not getting set issue went away. The Xprivacy and LED notification issues remain, and will occur on all units as far as I can tell. I haven't seen anything here that contradicts that info.
fivemill said:
Thanks, I think that was a part of it, but not all of it. I tried flashing stock on a different unit, and I found that the brightness issue was largely (but not fully) better, and the display settings not getting set issue went away. The Xprivacy and LED notification issues remain, and will occur on all units as far as I can tell. I haven't seen anything here that contradicts that info.
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I have xprivacy and my phone is still very smooth plus my LED works just fine. I even changed the colors
Still_living714 said:
I have xprivacy and my phone is still very smooth plus my LED works just fine. I even changed the colors
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Thanks a bunch for the info, this is good to know, and good to hear from another D851 user. The Xprivacy issue may be less easy to measure. The LED issue may be more objective. I have no trouble with changing LED colors. It's the blink rate that's at issue. Are you able to get it to blink say, twice per second, or even once per second when you get new email in your gmail app if you use that? Are you using any kind of an LED app?
Also, are you running Lollipop? Stock? Rooted? Thanks.
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Thanks a bunch for the info, this is good to know, and good to hear from another D851 user. The Xprivacy issue may be less easy to measure. The LED issue may be more objective. I have no trouble with changing LED colors. It's the blink rate that's at issue. Are you able to get it to blink say, twice per second, or even once per second when you get new email in your gmail app if you use that? Are you using any kind of an LED app?
Also, are you running Lollipop? Stock? Rooted? Thanks.
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I'm always rooted lol I'm running fulmics 5.0 and in the settings it gives you the option of length and speed of the LED. I highly recommend that rom if you want to try out marshmallow.
Still_living714 said:
I'm always rooted lol I'm running fulmics 5.0 and in the settings it gives you the option of length and speed of the LED. I highly recommend that rom if you want to try out marshmallow.
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Very good to know again, thanks for the recommendation! And the LED options are an additional reason. I'll try out fulmics soon.

'bad key' message when booting phone

Hi, first time newbie posting here
I've tried looking up my problem but I have a slightly different issue to what I've seen others have.
When I turn on the phone it says 'bad key' in an odd spot. It delays the boot up time a little but eventually loads up fine.
I was aware of this before I purchased it from the person. I think the person must of got an early release of Nougat for developers because the 'About phone' details seem different to my 2nd (store purchased) Moto Z Play even after checking for system updates.
Bad Key Photo (apologies for the bad quality)
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I would assume the bootloader is unlocked, but the message looks a little different than what it usually says. Normally there's a triangle and says the device is unlocked and cannot be trusted as well. As for the About Phone, it looks the same for me.
IncendiaryPyro said:
I would assume the bootloader is unlocked, but the message looks a little different than what it usually says. Normally there's a triangle and says the device is unlocked and cannot be trusted as well. As for the About Phone, it looks the same for me.
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Here are the details on my other Moto Z Play (the stock one) - note the different build number and security patch (both updated).
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Could locking the bootloader remove the 'bad key' thing? How would I go about doing that?
iivii14 said:
Here are the details on my other Moto Z Play (the stock one) - note the different build number and security patch (both updated).
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Could locking the bootloader remove the 'bad key' thing? How would I go about doing that?
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Sorry but once the bootloader is unlocked, there is no method to relock.
iivii14 said:
Hi, first time newbie posting here
I've tried looking up my problem but I have a slightly different issue to what I've seen others have.
When I turn on the phone it says 'bad key' in an odd spot. It delays the boot up time a little but eventually loads up fine.
I was aware of this before I purchased it from the person. I think the person must of got an early release of Nougat for developers because the 'About phone' details seem different to my 2nd (store purchased) Moto Z Play even after checking for system updates.
Bad Key Photo (apologies for the bad quality)
imgur.com/a/YCwht
Settings>About Phone Screenshot
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This is just someone trying to cover up the unlocked bootloader message with an altered boot logo. Whoever you bought it from tried to hide the fact that they terminated the warranty even though you could send it to Moto for them to relock it with a new key.
DroneDoom said:
This is just someone trying to cover up the unlocked bootloader message with an altered boot logo. Whoever you bought it from tried to hide the fact that they terminated the warranty even though you could send it to Moto for them to relock it with a new key.
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Thanks, I'll give that a shot. Hopefully it wont cost too much.
Just wondering if I changed the rom to lets say Lineage would that 'bad key' message still exist?
What is so bad about that message?
It says
"You can do backups of partitions using TWRP"
It says
"You can root, meaning you can do backups of apps using Titanium backup"
It says
"You can root, meaning you can copy files keeping timestamps like on any other OS"
It also says
"You most probably won't get repairs from Lenovo because warranty is void"
Last point is the disadvantage, but changing the image or text won't help. Lenovo has your device ID in the database of unlocked devices.
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What is so bad about that message?
It says
"You can do backups of partitions using TWRP"
It says
"You can root, meaning you can do backups of apps using titanium backup"
It says
"You can root, meaning you can copy files keeping timestamps like on any other OS"
It also says
"You most probably won't get repairs from Lenovo because warranty is void"
Last point is the disadvantage, but changing the image or text won't help. Lenovo has your device ID in the database of unlocked devices.
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I got in touch with Motorola's/Lenovo's authorised repairer here in Australia. I was told the motherboard would have to be changed- around $400 so not worth it.
I was actually planning to use the phone as a gps tracker so the extended boot time bothers me a little and also the fact the system updates aren't the same as my other (stock) Moto Z Play.
iivii14 said:
I was actually planning to use the phone as a gps tracker so the extended boot time bothers me a little
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That 5 seconds display bad key? Never had problems with it, because I usually keep my device running. Would it be difficult for you to not turn it off?
I'm more bothered by annoying boot animation, unfortunately with sound. But there locked or unlocked bootloader makes no difference.
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and also the fact the system updates aren't the same as my other (stock) Moto Z Play.
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If you don't root it and don't install another OS, there is no reason for updates to be different just because the bootloader is unlocked. What is the difference in your case?
tag68 said:
That 5 seconds display bad key? Never had problems with it, because I usually keep my device running. Would it be difficult for you to not turn it off?
I'm more bothered by annoying boot animation, unfortunately with sound. But there locked or unlocked bootloader makes no difference.
If you don't root it and don't install another OS, there is no reason for updates to be different just because the bootloader is unlocked. What is the difference in your case?
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It's about 20 seconds- I know it's not thaaaat bad but still I'd like it to fire up asap.
Its going to live in a car and only charging while the car is running (so the car battery doesn't go flat). I still need to set it up but once the car is started it'll turn back on.
I'm uncertain if its actually a different OS- it looks like the original one but its almost like the previous owner unlocked it to get Nougat on it before it was officially released- thought someone might know from the screenshot.
iivii14 said:
Its going to live in a car and only charging while the car is running (so the car battery doesn't go flat). I still need to set it up but once the car is started it'll turn back on.
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You may consider adding a power block to your setup. I'm usually not charging my mobile from the car, but from a power block which has the advantage that I don't need long cables (cigarette lighter is on the other side of steering wheel). They are cheap and add flexibility.
If you charge the power block at home or from the car, maybe charging power block and mobile sometimes in parallel using dual adapter in the car, and which size of power block you use, may be worth consideration.
iivii14 said:
...- thought someone might know from the screenshot.
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Sorry, I can't tell.
If it turns out to be some wrong version or if you just don't trust the current installation, you are free to flash an original one. Unfortunately Lenovo does not release signed official versions, at least not until now. There are some links on xda. Some of them should be the right one
iivii14 said:
Thanks, I'll give that a shot. Hopefully it wont cost too much.
Just wondering if I changed the rom to lets say Lineage would that 'bad key' message still exist?
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You would get 'N/A' in place of the 'bad key' message. This because custom rom devs don't encrypt/sign their roms like Moto does so there is no key to compare (thus N/A).
iivii14 said:
Hi, first time newbie posting here
I've tried looking up my problem but I have a slightly different issue to what I've seen others have.
When I turn on the phone it says 'bad key' in an odd spot. It delays the boot up time a little but eventually loads up fine.
I was aware of this before I purchased it from the person. I think the person must of got an early release of Nougat for developers because the 'About phone' details seem different to my 2nd (store purchased) Moto Z Play even after checking for system updates.
Bad Key Photo (apologies for the bad quality)
imgur.com/a/YCwht
Settings>About Phone Screenshot
imgur.com/a/6eDtd
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I know this is old, but I'll place my own answer as an exercise on the subject, if you don't mind: "Bad Key" sign means that someone flashed an unsigned, stock but non-original OS version on your phone; if just unlocked bootloader and even flashed custom recovery on an otherwise original OS (as shipped) it must read "N/A" instead. In both cases, phone should be equally usable; however, if OTA updates can be downloaded, they won't be installed as usual. Assuming that forcefully needed, updates can be ADB or recovery sideload installed. Relocking bootloader won't be possible under given conditions. The black screen with "Bad Key" in there simply means that there is actually no bootlogo installed, probably because previous owner failed in flashing an unwarned one and just refused to keep trying. You can't get rid of the "Bad Key" sign, but you can cover it by flashing any bootlogo of your likes, either with a full white background or a custom made image with a white section that covers exactly on the sign coordinates. Creativity should be used here. No way someone try to charge you big fat megabucks for a new motherboard, since there is no motherboard failure and there's no actual need for such a radical "solution". According to humble my point of view, you just can go rooting Z Play and enjoy the hell out of it...
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