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[Q] Should I jump-ship from the M7?

Hey there
I have been a long time HTC One M7 user and I must say this is the best phone I ever had (and I switch phones a lot), it is perhaps the only device I never thought about changing until the M8 came out.
I have Sense 6 on my M7 and it is smooth and snappy, and to be honest everything about the device is spectacular, except for a couple of things;
1) The battery life is not that good. I am a long time user and I know exactly what to do in order to maintain a decent battery life, but in general the battery's capacity is kind of small for a device with an intense display like that.
2) The camera after the sun goes away is pretty AWFUL. It has this purple tint which completely ruins night pictures, and the flash isn't as strong as to make that go away. Does the M8 have that purple hue? Some people claim their M7 has a green hue instead of purple, so what about the M8? This could definitely affect my purchasing decision because it's a waste when you have such a good camera in your hands.
3) IS it easy to modify the device in terms of going S-OFF, rooting, installing recovery, changing CID and MID, and such or did it not reach that phase yet?
4) Is it a lot faster than the M7? My device never actually lagged, but I am guessing if the M8 is even faster that would be just tremendous.
5) What about overheating issues? My M7 used to overheat back in the day before I started becoming a mild rather than heavy user. It still does when I install a new ROM and start restoring applications and such from TitaniumBackup, and I believe that is the reason the purple tint comes quickly, because certain particles in the camera actually melt from the heat.
6) Is the M8's material as strong as the M7's? My device fell several times and it does not have a single scratch or crack, and the aluminium material is just superb. The grip itself isn't very good because it's slippery, but I have used covers since day one so I don't have that problem.
7) I just noticed that the M8 does not have any physical buttons, but what does that mean for features like swipe2wake and swipe2sleep? To be honest the on-screen buttons are kind of annoying and I'd have preferred the physical ones like on the M7.
Thank you very much guys. I appreciate your time.

TarekElsakka said:
1) The battery life is not that good. I am a long time user and I know exactly what to do in order to maintain a decent battery life, but in general the battery's capacity is kind of small for a device with an intense display like that.
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I'm coming from an S4 so that is how I am going to compare. Battery life is pretty awesome. Some users are talking like 5-6hrs of on screen time. I am very happy with the battery life.
2) The camera after the sun goes away is pretty AWFUL. It has this purple tint which completely ruins night pictures, and the flash isn't as strong as to make that go away. Does the M8 have that purple hue? Some people claim their M7 has a green hue instead of purple, so what about the M8? This could definitely affect my purchasing decision because it's a waste when you have such a good camera in your hands.
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No complaints about the camera. What impressed me was the color and audio of some video I recorded.
3) IS it easy to modify the device in terms of going S-OFF, rooting, installing recovery, changing CID and MID, and such or did it not reach that phase yet?
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All of this can be done, and fairly easy. I came from an S4 so it was all foriegn to me. You coming from a M7 should have no issue. My device is Unlocked, S-OFF, Rooted, and SuperCID. The MID can be changed, but it was suggested to me not to because I am in the US and require 4G.
4) Is it a lot faster than the M7? My device never actually lagged, but I am guessing if the M8 is even faster that would be just tremendous.
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Benchmarks state that the M8 is crazy fast.
5) What about overheating issues? My M7 used to overheat back in the day before I started becoming a mild rather than heavy user. It still does when I install a new ROM and start restoring applications and such from TitaniumBackup, and I believe that is the reason the purple tint comes quickly, because certain particles in the camera actually melt from the heat.
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Never got hot, but has got warm when performing tasks you mention.
6) Is the M8's material as strong as the M7's? My device fell several times and it does not have a single scratch or crack, and the aluminium material is just superb. The grip itself isn't very good because it's slippery, but I have used covers since day one so I don't have that problem.
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Dropped once from two feet on to tile, no scratches.:silly:
Over all, I LOVE MY M8!

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your information. Coming from the S4, do you miss the physical buttons? I am not sure if I'll actually like the onscreen ones, especially since they eat up a portion of the display.
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Coming from the M7 these are my wife's findings:
Battery life - huge improvement. It sleeps better and trains less under use. She has hit 8 hours of SOT.
Camera - Again another massive improvement over the One in speed and ability. Also the purple tint is gone making it a no-brainer to update.
Modifications - this one is as easy/easier then the M7 to mod and it appears that AOSP is hitting less problems on the M8 compared to the M7. Also the GPE model allows stock Google to run perfectly if you so desire.
Speed - the M8 is very very fast but most of that lies in Sense 6. Otherwise the M8 runs much like the M7 did back in the day
Overheating - Mine will get warm from time to time, but I can underclock mine by 75mv so it runs cool all the time now.
Materials - the Gray color is soft. It will scratch easily and the Silver is just like the M7s silver. For me the curved edges and beautiful design are worth the softer finish
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Thank you so much for your input, you've been very helpful. I think I am decided on jumping ship to the M8 since I have had a delightful experience with the M7; I had a Samsung before it, and iPhones before that, and to be honest I believe HTC has the best quality among them, especially when compared to the cheap quality of the Samsung. I don't think I mind if it scratches easily, I will use a cover anyways as I did with my M7 because it gives me a better grip when using aluminium devices.
Thanks again and have a great day. Cheers to the wife!

TarekElsakka said:
Thank you so much for your input, you've been very helpful. I think I am decided on jumping ship to the M8 since I have had a delightful experience with the M7; I had a Samsung before it, and iPhones before that, and to be honest I believe HTC has the best quality among them, especially when compared to the cheap quality of the Samsung. I don't think I mind if it scratches easily, I will use a cover anyways as I did with my M7 because it gives me a better grip when using aluminium devices.
Thanks again and have a great day. Cheers to the wife!
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at first the smooth edges comparing to the rough" edges will be awkward...at least it was for me... but after a while you will love it... what I miss (coming from m7)
- ois (really useful)
- HDR mics (the m8 is amazing but the bass is not that deep, but more richer)
- and hmm thats it

I am sorry but what is ois? It keeps getting mentioned and I have no idea what it is.
And by the way, do you miss the physical buttons? I am not sure if the on-screen buttons are going to be as good, especially since you have to wake the display in order to use them, AND they'll take up space when using full screen applications, and you could very easily accidentally hit them.

I prefer the onscreen buttons now that I have made them smaller.
They disappear in most apps when you don't need them anyway and the extra screen real estate on your home screen is just bragging rights as the screen is plenty big enough even with the buttons on.
Although I must say they are too big unless you root and make them smaller.
I personally hated the M7 buttons with a passion, they were a pain. They were intermittent when they wanted to work. I almost tore my hair out trying to use the back button.

To be quite honest I have never had problems with the M7 buttons, but to each their own. Oh I am a fan of rooting, custom ROMs, and all of that so I gues I'll have no problem making them smaller. You said that they disappear in most apps, so how do you exit the app without using the home button? And I will also miss the HTC logo2menu mapping.

In short, yes, m8 is brillian so get it
and also read foruim rules, these threads are not allowed

TarekElsakka said:
I am sorry but what is ois? It keeps getting mentioned and I have no idea what it is.
And by the way, do you miss the physical buttons? I am not sure if the on-screen buttons are going to be as good, especially since you have to wake the display in order to use them, AND they'll take up space when using full screen applications, and you could very easily accidentally hit them.
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http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/stabilization/

Thread closed,
Phone comparison threads are against forum rules.
Many thanks,
Ghost

Some questions for actual users (if possible coming from HTC)

Hello
I have some questions I couldn't have clear answers in reviews about the G4:
-Is music quality and volume good over earphones (both wired and BT)? How can you compare with HTC M7 or M8 or M9?
-How nice is the screen under direct sunlight?
-Did you try the ported Sense 7 UI on the G4? If yes how nice does it look?
-Do you get any Car app in the G4?

vegetaleb said:
Hello
I have some questions I couldn't have clear answers in reviews about the G4:
-Is music quality and volume good over earphones (both wired and BT)? How can you compare with HTC M7 or M8 or M9?
-How nice is the screen under direct sunlight?
-Did you try the ported Sense 7 UI on the G4? If yes how nice does it look?
-Do you get any Car app in the G4?
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I came from the M7. The quality and volume on earphones is quite good. I'm not an audiophile so I'm not that picky, but for me I couldn't find much difference from the M7. The external speaker, however, it's a totally different story...
The screen is pretty good under direct sunlight, at least as bright as my M7. I had the M9 for a couple of weeks before the G4 and it's screen was brighter and easier to see in bright daylight however...
Didn't try the Sense 7 port but I'm preety sure I will. I actually like some of LG's UI, but I really like Sense...

VictorC said:
I came from the M7. The quality and volume on earphones is quite good. I'm not an audiophile so I'm not that picky, but for me I couldn't find much difference from the M7. The external speaker, however, it's a totally different story...
The screen is pretty good under direct sunlight, at least as bright as my M7. I had the M9 for a couple of weeks before the G4 and it's screen was brighter and easier to see in bright daylight however...
Didn't try the Sense 7 port but I'm preety sure I will. I actually like some of LG's UI, but I really like Sense...
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Yep I liked the idea of detailed weather on the widget.
How's the camera? better than M9?

vegetaleb said:
Yep I liked the idea of detailed weather on the widget.
How's the camera? better than M9?
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Yes, almost in every aspect. Maybe in great light shots are not that far apart in terms of quality, but in night time there is no competition. However, I don't know how the camera on the M9 behaves now after the last update... I do like the G4's camera and I like the camera app too.

-Is music quality and volume good over earphones (both wired and BT)?
Very good, included earbuds are pretty good too. Excellent audio quality on both headphones and car auxiliary.
-How nice is the screen under direct sunlight?
Very good, the brightness is amped as is the contrast in direct sunlight and definitely makes things easier to read.

I come from the m7 whose screen I couldn't see in direct sunlight. The G4 is easy to read. No comparison.

i came from an M8, the camera is by far the most amazing aspect on this phone, but the power of my G4 is Unreal! i also have a G Flex 2(which is i just bricked last night) and the G4 still blows it out of the water but the audio quality is much better i have beats headpones, and speaker quality even more so, the speakers on my M8 sucked in my opinion...they were raspy and just didnt sound well, i had the harmon kardon edition, but it wasnt at all what i expected

As others have stated, The camera on this device is simply incredible (probably the best camera I have ever actually used/had).
As far as direct sunlight I find that I do struggle occasionally with trying to see what I am doing or just give up what I am doing as the view is aggravating me, lol.
As far as sound, I have found this phone can certainly hold its own. With headphones I find that the quality is just fine and with using the EQ feature of PlayerPro I can tweak the audio to be absolutely perfect....Even with just using the speaker on the device I find music comes through crisp, clean, and surprisingly loud for being just a tiny stock speaker....Don't get me wrong, I am sure there are better devices for audio (like the Nexus 6 for example) but the G4 is certainly nothing to sneeze as in this department.
and as far as the screen goes, the 5.5" is (to me anyway) the perfect size, It makes the device super easy to handle with only one hand but also is quite comfortable if you are wanting to use it with both hands. The HD aspect of the screen REALLY shines through with the G4. Everything looks SO beautiful and the colours are super vivid and clean (I also have the Note Edge and would take the screen on the G4 over the Edge any day of the week).
Keep in mind though, we do get the occasional "miss-touch" or "delayed-response" when using the touch screen but at most it is just a slight annoyance and has yet to "kill the device" or make me regret purchasing the G4.
The battery can also drain SUPER fast if you are not careful, like I have started my day off at 100% battery and gotten down to less than 20%, recharged back up to 100% and by the end of that night been back down to about half dead. (Granted I use my phone A LOT for music which really takes its toll on the power consumption)
These are just a couple minor "flaws" though and I would not consider them to be anything that would make you want to trade the device for something else.

I think there is no 2015 smartphone with a good battery!
My M9 can just give me 1 day with good usage but without games. So was the S6 I had for 2 weeks.
Btw is the G4 compatible with Quickcharger 2.0?
Do you think the XDA devs will give a strong support to the G4? I love playing with Roms.
This touch screen thingy will be fixed by OTA later or LG is blind?
Oh and a very special question: I use my M9 on a sticky pad in my car, the metal back stick on it like superglue, the S6 glass back was not sticking, so I wonder if the G4 can stick well?

@VictorC
Do you regret your move from M9 to G4 (I did regret moving from M8 to S6)

Actually, my move was from the M7 to the G4. I had an M9 (actually two) for testing for a few weeks. I didn't actually move to the G4 by choice I won the device in a contest and decided to stick with it.
There are some things I regret moving from HTC and some things that I think I can live without or adjust to them. Up until now I like the G4. Wish the battery was a little bit better, but I think I'm going to get a spare battery and a quick-charger...
And next year, with the M10, who knows

VictorC said:
Actually, my move was from the M7 to the G4. I had an M9 (actually two) for testing for a few weeks. I didn't actually move to the G4 by choice I won the device in a contest and decided to stick with it.
There are some things I regret moving from HTC and some things that I think I can live without or adjust to them. Up until now I like the G4. Wish the battery was a little bit better, but I think I'm going to get a spare battery and a quick-charger...
And next year, with the M10, who knows
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I bet you missed the goodness of Sense 7
Btw give the port of Sense 7 a try, on s6 it was good but I hated the black statusbar

Yeah, Sense (6 and 7 especially) is maybe the thing I miss the most. I'm still trying to give the LG UI a chance, but I'm pretty sure I'll end up trying the Sense 7 port

VictorC said:
Yeah, Sense (6 and 7 especially) is maybe the thing I miss the most. I'm still trying to give the LG UI a chance, but I'm pretty sure I'll end up trying the Sense 7 port
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How do you feel you G4 with the new FW update?
You still didn't try Sense port?

Didn't get the update yet. Still waiting.
Playing around with an Xperia Z3 these days, so the G4 is idling at home

I had m9 since before release g4 is better in every aspect
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aaronrw said:
I had m9 since before release g4 is better in every aspect
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Can you try to install htc car app from playstore? It's one of the thing I will miss if I swap my M9 with G4
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I can't find it in the play store @vegetaleb
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aaronrw said:
I can't find it in the play store @vegetaleb
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Ok!
No worries, Xpirt the dude who is behind the Sense 7 port is working on a port of this app and others from HTC.
I think I will wait a couple of weeks till the price of the G4 goes down, like now I would lose 130$ in the swapping process, I already loosed 80$ with S6 to M9. If I wait another 2-3 weeks I would pay only 30 to 50$ for the swap.

Digging up this thread as I have been attacked by the fact that I could consider the G4 while I have an M9.
One thing for sure: I won't swap my M9 with a G4 as long as the touchscreen issue isn't fixed once and for all

why the bad reviews

Hi guys just changed from the nexus 6 and while I feel abit gutted that I did just wondering why does the m9 get so much hammering by reviews
I mean it has all the latest specs and everything apart from finger scanner yet just about everyone puts down the m9
Granted I do have light bleed from the right side of the display but will that cause any problems like dust under the screen eat
Thanks

camera issues...but already solved by mod on the m9 general forum

brockyneo said:
Hi guys just changed from the nexus 6 and while I feel abit gutted that I did just wondering why does the m9 get so much hammering by reviews
I mean it has all the latest specs and everything apart from finger scanner yet just about everyone puts down the m9
Granted I do have light bleed from the right side of the display but will that cause any problems like dust under the screen eat
Thanks
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The device isn't perfect, but no HTC ever was, for me its a great device and is better than the available competition, you'll always find negativity on all phones, non are exempt from that.

HTC 10 Build quality. First Impressions. Over all love!!

HTC 10 owners speak up! How great is your 10 let everyone know how well yours is built and holding up. Also your first impressions, the knock your socks off experience unfortunately mine shipped while I was on vacation and is sitting at home waiting on me. Will report on Monday when I get home! Can't wait!

From the 7-ish hours I've had mine, it has 100% completely lived up to the hype and has been an enormous upgrade from my One m9. I have absolutely zero build quality, screen, or performance issues. The camera is miles ahead of the m9's and I can't wait for the 1.30 software update to hit my phone which will make it even better. Also, one thing that really stood out is just how fast and accurate the fingerprint scanner is. The capacitive button idea is simply perfect for a fingerprint scanner. There's no way I can go back to a phone without a fingerprint scanner now.
My absolute biggest complaint (if you can call it that) is the position of the headphone jack. I've gotten used to having it on the bottom of the phone which fits best with my personal usage since I place a phone top-down in my pocket. I'm not sure this even qualifies as a problem and I know I'll get used to it quickly.

jaredkzr said:
From the 7-ish hours I've had mine, it has 100% completely lived up to the hype and has been an enormous upgrade from my One m9. I have absolutely zero build quality, screen, or performance issues. The camera is miles ahead of the m9's and I can't wait for the 1.30 software update to hit my phone which will make it even better. Also, one thing that really stood out is just how fast and accurate the fingerprint scanner is. The capacitive button idea is simply perfect for a fingerprint scanner. There's no way I can go back to a phone without a fingerprint scanner now.
My absolute biggest complaint (if you can call it that) is the position of the headphone jack. I've gotten used to having it on the bottom of the phone which fits best with my personal usage since I place a phone top-down in my pocket. I'm not sure this even qualifies as a problem and I know I'll get used to it quickly.
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You are really making me anxious to get my hands on mine!!!

crowsnestitsupport said:
You are really making me anxious to get my hands on mine!!!
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Let me tell you, you will not be disappointed! The 10 is, without a doubt, the best android experience currently available.

Stephen said:
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Thread has been closed. Please use existing threads before creating new ones. EG: [Discussion] HTC 10 User Opinions and Reviews
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Guessing this one's still open then? Lol
Did u get any delivery news mate?
U guys won't be disappointed. Mines coming next week and I'm convinced still despite the launch BS That it's gonna be a cracker.
Carbon grey ten for me, looking forward to that sexy 2.5d glass on a black front and grey device.
Drooling over next week!

I was working on the wrong thread! LOL

Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.

@Stephen hahaha
I'm coming from the m9 so the ten will be like well u all Know of course

eneka said:
Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
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How you finding size difference, I'm in a 6P and bothered about smaller screen
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eneka said:
Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
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Hmm. I also using the 6p. Please explain how and why

eneka said:
Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
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Yes also I had the 6p, I found it too big and clunky. I currently have the Lumia 950xl. While it is also a 5.7" screen, it is quite a bit smaller and lighter than the 6p. I also really did not like the camera strip at the back. Just could not get used to that at all.

I came from the shamu to the 6p so the screen size didn't bother me, and the phenomenal camera on the 6p made up for the ugly glass strip. Overall I'm extremely happy with the 6p but I have always been an HTC fan,(I of course had the M9 and A9 both in between, but both had their limitations) so I'm really really anxious to try a more pure stock sense experience coupled with very promising hardware!!

How is the notification sound for you guys? Idk if it is my unit, or its me, or they are all in general like that but the notification sound is kinda muffled
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How you finding size difference, I'm in a 6P and bothered about smaller screen
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That's one of the main reasons I switched, the 6p was just was just to big for me. Loving the smaller screen size.
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Hmm. I also using the 6p. Please explain how and why
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The HTC 10 feel a whole lot more solid and heftier. The fit and finish just feels nicer, no mismatching plastics or pieces that aren't flush, there is no black plastic "ring" around the screen that dents and comes off easily, button feel more solid
I used to be diehard pure Android only and have tried different skins over the years, even stuff like PA or some other custom wrong. But I'm finding myself liking sense a lot. Hated the previous version on my One S. I am itching to root just so I can block ads...

the way i would describe it is real metal especially compared to the A9 and X9 (which has thin metal like the iPhone)
the 10 is simply steel and glass, with no plastics in your sight (except the hidden strips)
overall a screaming premium feel, my TPU case is killing the whole aura so i am really anxious for my Spigen ExactFit to arrive, also the Fitbag black rave pouch looks amazingly classy with it

My eyesight isn't what it used to be so I've been using phablets - Note 2, Note 4, Moto X Pure Edition - and I was a little worried about the smaller screen size on the HTC 10. I've discovered, however, that it's very easy for me to read the HTC 10 screen. I prefer Sense over TouchWiz, but I've been spoiled by the flexibility of Nova Prime and I installed it on my HTC 10 after about an hour. So far, I'm very pleased with the HTC 10. I'll know more after I've used it for a week or two.
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How is the notification sound for you guys? Idk if it is my unit, or its me, or they are all in general like that but the notification sound is kinda muffled
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I'm hard of hearing but I can easily hear the notification sound on my HTC 10, even without my hearing aids.

I got mine yesterday (so far I love it) and I just now noticed there is a slight gap between the top of the screen and the frame. Has anyone else noticed this?

OK after having phone a solid 8 hours with 80% of my apps installed compared to Samsung S7 Edge is a mini review:
Nice build quality, slightly smaller screen, cleaner UI but with some idiosyncrasies, very good sound, type-C connector.
I am finding the more apps I install the slower the phone is becoming with some lag and stutter, the camera is quite good but Edge is better overall especially in low light, Edge is blazing fast despite touch wiz, Edge screen is gorgeous and battery life is probably better but will withhold judgement on HTC 10 for a day or two.
Overall a very good phone but not enough to best the Edge. Marketing will be an issue for this phone and may be difficult for buyers to justify at same price point if the preorder $100 discount is not available.
The wow factor is almost there IMHO.
Will keep testing with an open mind.
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take a look at this durability video
pretty solid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ62ixgzhrI

I'm digging' the heck out of it! What a fantastic device!
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Is this worth buying?

Hey.
I'm a little late to the party but I have just seen this phone and it looks cool. I have a P9 Lite at the moment and I am not keen on EMUI. I love the look of the mint colour Robin. How is the screen on this thing as I hate washed out IPS screens.
Also important to me is how is development for this phone?
Thanks.

Warren_Orange said:
Hey.
I'm a little late to the party but I have just seen this phone and it looks cool. I have a P9 Lite at the moment and I am not keen on EMUI. I love the look of the mint colour Robin. How is the screen on this thing as I hate washed out IPS screens.
Also important to me is how is development for this phone?
Thanks.
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The screen is on par with most LCDs these days, good viewing angles and color saturation. Development is on the rise. At this moment there are a hand full of roms to flash. You should get this phone if you can, as it's still great in 2017.

I've just purchased one from Amazon can't not at £149 new for the spec better than some Umi rubbish in same price range
Looks like its got good rom/development support as well
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Warren_Orange said:
Hey.
I'm a little late to the party but I have just seen this phone and it looks cool. I have a P9 Lite at the moment and I am not keen on EMUI. I love the look of the mint colour Robin. How is the screen on this thing as I hate washed out IPS screens.
Also important to me is how is development for this phone?
Thanks.
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Its a great phone, and definitley worth the money, but considering your current device it's not much of an upgrade.

Hey guys,
I'm considering the purchase of this cool-looking phone as well and I want to ask about the battery life - is it really that terrible that you have to charge your phone more than once a day (as written in some reviews)? And what about the camera - is it really that bad or it's just a normal mobile average?
I am using nexus4 right now and Robin probably won't be my daily driver, I just want it because of the look but obviously I don't want to waste my money on some ****ty device.
Thanks
P.

Gu$houn* said:
Hey guys,
I'm considering the purchase of this cool-looking phone as well and I want to ask about the battery life - is it really that terrible that you have to charge your phone more than once a day (as written in some reviews)? And what about the camera - is it really that bad or it's just a normal mobile average?
I am using nexus4 right now and Robin probably won't be my daily driver, I just want it because of the look but obviously I don't want to waste my money on some ****ty device.
Thanks
P.
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I can get through a day without charging with ease. That said. I've never been on stock, I personally didn't like it. Many users complained about performance and battery life on the Stock OS. The camera is pretty 'meh'. Taking pictures can be VERY slow (Use Google Camera or something, Open Camera and the stock camera is supposedly slow) and low light performance is pretty bad. During the day though I can get pretty nice shots, nothing to complain about, it's good just not 'great'.
All this said though, I've mostly been on OmniROM and LOS/LOS based roms as they seem pretty on par in both areas (LOS and LOS based roms have a few kinks to sort out at the moment though). If you're planning on sticking with the Stock ROM and have issues, I 100% recommend OmniROM, it's had a long while to get rid of all the bugs and it's got killer performance and with moderate usage (Including some light gaming) I get around 4.5 hours SOT on a single charge on Omni.
I hope this helps

If I leave the house with a 100% charge. I can get through the entire day...but when I'm out...I'm not constantly on my phone. I'm a pretty casual user and I've been pretty happy with the device in the 7 months I've been using the phone. The durability of the phone is the only real questionable thing. The plastic feels pretty thin and the edges are pointy. I can't imagine dropping the phone on its edge onto concrete. I've seen lots of people complain of the phone getting bent from being in your pocket. If you're the type of person that is rough with your stuff...it may not be the best choice....or use a heavy duty case like the Tudia.
Nextbit will also be stopping any kind of warranty in July of 2017. So if you buy your phone now...and something goes wrong...you don't have a warranty after July.

I think at its current price level this phone makes a great backup phone, or if you want to have something for a few months and move on to something better.
The good: it has a rather up to date OS, you get a good processor (808) for around $120, it's light weight and sleek, easy to root and develop on, sleek look, smooth performance with virtually no bloat, supports band 12 (important for t mobile).
The bad: no warranty after July 2017, the online storage space may disappear in 2018 (which was their whole selling point for the phone on the beginning), mediocre camera, very fragile design ( the phone is made entirely of plastic and there is no metal frame inside so forget about putting it in your pocket), no charger in the box, can feel warm at times if you are not careful about background processes and using an ad blocker, mediocre battery life (5 hours on screen surfing).

Great phone. The online storage was dumb and you wont miss it. If you really needed more then 32 gigs would you be looking at this phone at all?
The camera is just ok. Its better then the last phone I had which was a nexus 5.
The phone is good quality. The plastic takes a beating. I put it in my pocket, and run it case free and have for months. Barley a knick on it. Been dropped from waist high on wood floors and tile.
Battery - I stream google music all day at work . If I don't charge I can go about 8 hours with Bluetooth headphones connected. If I use it as a phone for googling here and there I get like a day+ on it. Reading books and wut not, 12 hours.
I run stock, with a personalized launcher, rooted, running substratum for blacking out all the menus and Nougat quick settings to use immersive mode. Runs like a champ, super fast. The warranty thingie sucks, but;at 117 bux, this phone is a steal.
I dare anyone to find a brand new phone with at least an 808 and 32 gigs of storage, with 3g memory for cheaper and better support.
I'll wait right here. :silly:

Hello Community!
I consider buying the Nextbit Robin for my 13yo son, who killed his S5 Neo (broken Display). I´m afraid he would be forced to stick with stock and no root because of....well.....pokemon go.... so I hope battery life is not THAT bad as complained in some threads.
BUT: The fact that he killed his last phone because he dropped it and the "bending issue" I read in this thread I am pretty unsure about it. My son puts his mobile into his pocket.

pixelfanatic said:
Hello Community!
I consider buying the Nextbit Robin for my 13yo son, who killed his S5 Neo (broken Display). I´m afraid he would be forced to stick with stock and no root because of....well.....pokemon go.... so I hope battery life is not THAT bad as complained in some threads.
BUT: The fact that he killed his last phone because he dropped it and the "bending issue" I read in this thread I am pretty unsure about it. My son puts his mobile into his pocket.
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Pokemon GO works fine with custom ROMs and root as long as you use magisk

I got one and I love it , it has an amazing camera, great battery life (at least on Resurrection Remix), and is nice because the bootloader is easily unlockable. The only issue I have experienced is the speakers can be a bit distorted at max volume.