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Memory problem

Hi All,
Today I got my new TP2 and it looks great, but I think I have a problem with the memory.
In the Storage I have total 277.72MB and in the Program I have 187.61MB, as I understand its spouse to be 512MB/256MB?
By the way in the Device Information I have 512MB/256MB.
Please let me know if its OK?
Thanks,

Same with my one, Datamemory is 291,04 and Programmemory is 188,21.
I think it's because of prorams and system data that can't be deleted, so only the memory that you can completely use is showed.

=Crux= said:
Same with my one, Datamemory is 291,04 and Programmemory is 188,21.
I think it's because of prorams and system data that can't be deleted, so only the memory that you can completely use is showed.
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Thanks for very quick answer.

some storage space is used up by stock rom for the applications cooked in. these application use up some of your memory to run. the remainder is what you see once stock rom has booted and loaded! perfectly fine. future custom roms should require less memory to run and the apps cooked in will also use up less storage space. memory will improve and you will have more storage space.

[Q] Quick question about A2SD+

Hi guys. I know the answer must be hidden somewhere but I have to make a quick decision about buying a Desire (I have a short term offer). So if I have a new Desire and I root it etc, then I should make a partition on the card of 512MB, using lets say Rom Manager. Then if I install a ROM containing A2SD+ , I should be able to install all the apps I want without worring about the internal storage, correct? Am I missing something?
Thank you very much ffor your time.

The internal storage memory will still go down in size as some of the stuff still gets put in there. It just won't go down as much (or as quick) with A2SD+ enabled.

sh500 said:
The internal storage memory will still go down in size as some of the stuff still gets put in there. It just won't go down as much (or as quick) with A2SD+ enabled.
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And is it enough to have the generic rom from the Kitchen, containing A2SD?

[Q]How can I extend the System storage (memory) ?

Hi,
as everybody have noticed Samsung has integrated into their firmwares 3 storage locations:
System storage (1GB)
USB storage (or internal SD card) (1.7GB)
SD card (or external SD card) (up to 32GB)
A way how to swap USB storage and SD card is already given.
Like most of you gamers have already noticed, the memory of the internal SD card is often too small to download big games (like NFL 2012, Real Football 2012, etc.)
I know there are ways how to swap or use apps to swap temporarily the directions.
But I want a permanent solution with full capability of storage usage.
So here is what I would like to do:
Change the storage to:
System storage (2,7GB)
SD card (up to 32GB)
So basically extend the system storage and delete the USB storage. Than swap the internal SD and external SD card.
Advantages:
Media Server will only have to search one direction(physical SD card)
Only 2 main directions
SD card direction IS a physical SD card.
SD card, if class 10, is quicker than the internal storage(for apps).
Hope someone can help.
greets
THE-E

Sounds like a good plan.....I never can understand the Samsung memory/storage layout..... even for app devs deciding on /sdcard as default data store.....Samsung just breaks defaults.
Has your plan been tried on any other Samsung model.....or other Androids with the same Internal/External layout??
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irishpancake said:
Sounds like a good plan.....I never can understand the Samsung memory/storage layout..... even for app devs deciding on /sdcard as default data store.....Samsung just breaks defaults.
Has your plan been tried on any other Samsung model.....or other Androids with the same Internal/External layout??
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I have been searching for quite some time. I have seen someone writing about a data.ex4 file which was 4GB big. But not sure what it was used for.
I'll dig a bit deeper into that :-D
greets
THE-E

Do u mean u want to merge the system and usb storage into one...?
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jahlee said:
Do u mean u want to merge the system and usb storage into one...?
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Yes thats the plan :-D. But I have no clue about the internal restrictions of Android and the Samsung firmware.
I think if the extension of the system storage would work, than all we have to do is swap internal and external sd card. And keep the small internal(former internal sd card) partition unmounted.
BTW: My system storage has almost full. 850MB/1.07GB
greets
THE-E

I hve no idea too bro...can't help..
Many new devices around here use this three layer storage...
But,what I thought ,when we succes do this..there's no need to swap I think..
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So I have searched and searched ...
Didn't come veeery far, but atleast found a thread with a similiar concern:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398797
This is for the Galaxy Mini.
I asked the developer or thread starter, whether he can help us out.
Let's wait and see, hopefully he comes around.
EDIT: Doc_cheilvenerdi.org has replied, and is working on a solution. Hope it is going to work .
greets
THE-E

good i'm very interested

Dang...good news...!!
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A hell of a news! Will keep on referring this thread. Good day!

u juz go into the android market and download this app called "Gl to Sd"...after install u can save ur game data on the external sd with this...enjoy

shan1188 said:
u juz go into the android market and download this app called "Gl to Sd"...after install u can save ur game data on the external sd with this...enjoy
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Only Problem is, if the game is bigger than the internal sd space, you won't be able to download to sdcard. Because the procedure is like this:
Download game to internal SD -> move downloaded files to external SD
So you SD card has to be always free, unless you want to use the swap temporarily.
greets
THE-E

how about this one http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/10/02/how-to-move-gameloft-games-data-to-external-sd-card/

Update
I am in contact with Doc_cheilvenerdi.org, so I just want to give you a small update of the more or less current status. It might inspire some other devs.
So this was the second to last message (obviously with the kind permission of Doc_cheilvenerdi.org):
Doc_cheilvenerdi.org said:
THE-E said:
...I have contacted qzem for the source code of the kernel...
Is there anything else missing or what I can do to help?
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I'm here!
From a full firmware I just figured out that we don't need Kernel source because the ext4 kernel modules are already inside the Stock kernels (really good news)...
Now I'm dealing with the AOSP mkbootimg tool, used to repack the boot image after tweaking it...
It seems that they use a slightly modified one (? it should not occurr)...
I find two main differences... the first one is Solved... I can patch the mkbootimg code myself to use it...
The second one is related to 2 hex pages (4096 * 2 byte) of code at the end of the boot image that I cannot handle...
...anyway I don't know how to handle it...
Actually I cannot test modded images myself (I don't own a I8150) and could be dangerous to ask somebody else to do it for me...
Two questions to you:
1) Your Galaxy does have a fixed partition table, right? just to exclude that those codes are sizes and addresses of system parts... (this could be easy for us)
2) can you post me the output of the command (from adb shell or terminal emulator)
# busybox ls -l /dev/block/
while you have the sdcard slotted in?
After that I can prepare a boot image smaller (and NOT tweaked yet) just to not overwrite the code "I don't know what it is"...
but it's up to you to test for it...
...maybe it could not work...
...I will couple the repacked boot image with the original one, anyway, just to revert easy to it in case of troubleshootings...
but I repeat... it's up to you...
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greets
THE-E

This is a nice idea.
Ty for Keeping us updated m8

Hey guys any news on this? I think another good reason for this is that it will hopefully increase the amount of ram available, at this minute I have 87 mb free And hardly any apps open. So any news on this as it would be really helpful?
Jamie

jamidodger1 said:
Hey guys any news on this? I think another good reason for this is that it will hopefully increase the amount of ram available, at this minute I have 87 mb free And hardly any apps open. So any news on this as it would be really helpful?
Jamie
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As far as I understood this solution would let you better use your memory card and system/app space, but I don't think it would increase at all the amount of RAM available, unfortunately...
Anyway, yeah, keep us posted thanks!

hey THE-E
is thr any news abt this post cuz i really wanna extend my app size without having to swap memories or installing apps to external memory (all i wanna do is get 2.7 GB on 1 partition for app installation )

mosta_9741 said:
hey THE-E
is thr any news abt this post cuz i really wanna extend my app size without having to swap memories or installing apps to external memory (all i wanna do is get 2.7 GB on 1 partition for app installation )
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Unfortunately not. Not sure what the reason was, but there was a misunderstanding and after that there was no further reaction from the developer. I guess it was not possible.
greets
THE-E

[Q] storage help

Hello I am looking for a Rom or whatever that would make my sd card the phone storage instead the 500mb u get with the phone

Up

There are a couple of apps that can do it they basically just link to your external try directory binder
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hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.

Frenkel said:
hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
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What you are asking is impossible, you can´t make bigger the space of you´re phone, using the sd card.
Allthough you can try to use some applications to move the apps to you're SD, apps like Link2Sd(You need root) or more.
Also you can root you´re mobile and use titanium backup to delete apps you don´t need and you can´t remove,normally, but attention, if you remove some apps you´re phone can stop working.
I hope i helped!

If you have unlocked bootloader, you can flash Lupus GB kernel. It have 640MB data partition. And with the help of Link2SD (to move as much apps as you can to SD) it should be enough for some time
You could also partition SD card so apps2sd or link2sd can use it expand storage but is somehow harder to setup. You might check http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning

Frenkel said:
hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
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Are you rooted? If so get titanium backup pro (it's worth the $6 or $7). There's an option for moving dalvik-cache to /cache in there. Depending on phone, you can free up 80-100 MB of space by doing this. Here is the manual method, but it may not work on a lot of devices. Lack of space on these phones was my driving force for rooting it. I'm not certain about this (maybe someone who knows can chime it), but I believe making a separate small ext3 partition for your apps (something like 1-2GB) on your SD card helps out with speed of apps stored on there using link2sd.

[Q] Wheres my space going?

Hello guys,
This might seem like an idiot question but I totally confused here
My internal note 2 memory says 3.19GB free of 10.4GB. I am trying to clean my space so I plugged the note 2 to my pc on WIndows 8.1.
I selected all the files and folders in the memory and checked their size which summed up to only 3.24GB! I am really trying to find out whats taking so much space. Should I connect my Note II to Linux and check or how do I find out the total contents of thiis internal memory??
Please help me!
Thanks

It should be caused by using warez??
A lot of apps do a mess. I recomend wipe internal storage

verny94;53779743 said:
It should be caused by using warez??
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Hello,
Thanks about your quick reply! :highfive:
Well it may be but not in my case as almost all apps I use are either free or purchased properly.
verny94 said:
A lot of apps do a mess. I recomend wipe internal storage
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As about this,
This is exactly what I would be keeping as my last option. Essentially wiping internal memory is almost equal to factory reset, something I don't want to do unless I don't have any other choice..
Any way of of checking whats taking the memory without formatting would be great
Thanks

ashhem said:
Hello guys,
This might seem like an idiot question but I totally confused here
My internal note 2 memory says 3.19GB free of 10.4GB. I am trying to clean my space so I plugged the note 2 to my pc on WIndows 8.1.
I selected all the files and folders in the memory and checked their size which summed up to only 3.24GB! I am really trying to find out whats taking so much space. Should I connect my Note II to Linux and check or how do I find out the total contents of thiis internal memory??
Please help me!
Thanks
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In Titanium Backup app you find the exact memory stats devided in system and internal. To optimize internal mem push as many apps to ext sd as you can.
Besides: From Windows/PC you normally can't see hidden or system files.
For further information (eg more space in system) feel free to ask.

Androidwizzard said:
In Titanium Backup app you find the exact memory stats devided in system and internal. To optimize internal mem push as many apps to ext sd as you can.
Besides: From Windows/PC you normally can't see hidden or system files.
For further information (eg more space in system) feel free to ask.
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Hello,
Thanks for your insight. I am aware of the Windows dilemma hence was trying to get through using Linux but I could not :crying:
However I am already using the Titanium Backup app.. I have pushed almost all possible apps to external memory however I came across a problem where the majority data and memory are still being taken up on the internal memory by that app. Clearing Google Camera, Chaton and Camera Awesome's data, I almost got a GB in internal memory!
Speaking of this I have run into a very weird problem. :silly:
after rooting, I force transferred many apps to external memory. Since this Every time I restart my Note II its forgets my default launcher
Any idea what screwed this up?
Regards

ashhem said:
Hello,
Thanks for your insight. I am aware of the Windows dilemma hence was trying to get through using Linux but I could not :crying:
However I am already using the Titanium Backup app.. I have pushed almost all possible apps to external memory however I came across a problem where the majority data and memory are still being taken up on the internal memory by that app. Clearing Google Camera, Chaton and Camera Awesome's data, I almost got a GB in internal memory!
Speaking of this I have run into a very weird problem. :silly:
after rooting, I force transferred many apps to external memory. Since this Every time I restart my Note II its forgets my default launcher
Any idea what screwed this up?
Regards
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You can't move or force all apps to ext sd, especially system or system related apps, so I recommend to reinstall your rom and try to move step by step, so you can revert back by only changing one app back to int. I remember an app which forces apps to ext and also with that app it is recommended to change quite a descent amount of apps.

Androidwizzard said:
You can't move or force all apps to ext sd, especially system or system related apps, so I recommend to reinstall your rom and try to move step by step, so you can revert back by only changing one app back to int. I remember an app which forces apps to ext and also with that app it is recommended to change quite a descent amount of apps.
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I havent moved a single system app.. Thats why the problem is so weird!

ashhem said:
I havent moved a single system app.. Thats why the problem is so weird!
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Are you sure? Even in folder priv-app you find system apps and some are not clearly assignable.

Androidwizzard said:
Are you sure? Even in folder priv-app you find system apps and some are not clearly assignable.
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Yes Sir!
100% sure

ashhem said:
Yes Sir!
100% sure
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Weird ....... nevertheless I see the only option to reflash rom, sad thing

Androidwizzard said:
Weird ....... nevertheless I see the only option to reflash rom, sad thing
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Sure!
Will try

Another option to get rid of useless stuff APP

ashhem said:
Hello guys,
This might seem like an idiot question but I totally confused here
My internal note 2 memory says 3.19GB free of 10.4GB. I am trying to clean my space so I plugged the note 2 to my pc on WIndows 8.1.
I selected all the files and folders in the memory and checked their size which summed up to only 3.24GB! I am really trying to find out whats taking so much space. Should I connect my Note II to Linux and check or how do I find out the total contents of thiis internal memory??
Please help me!
Thanks
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Your problem can be related to apps that uses root access - this type of apps leaves a lot of trash even after uninstalling, so I recommend you to use only those apps, that are really needed.

Mine phone memory got piled up like yours...Titanium Backup helped me. Pushed lots of app to ext SD....