Hi guys. I know the answer must be hidden somewhere but I have to make a quick decision about buying a Desire (I have a short term offer). So if I have a new Desire and I root it etc, then I should make a partition on the card of 512MB, using lets say Rom Manager. Then if I install a ROM containing A2SD+ , I should be able to install all the apps I want without worring about the internal storage, correct? Am I missing something?
Thank you very much ffor your time.
The internal storage memory will still go down in size as some of the stuff still gets put in there. It just won't go down as much (or as quick) with A2SD+ enabled.
sh500 said:
The internal storage memory will still go down in size as some of the stuff still gets put in there. It just won't go down as much (or as quick) with A2SD+ enabled.
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And is it enough to have the generic rom from the Kitchen, containing A2SD?
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Am I supposed to go back and erase all of my apps from internal storage after they are moved to the SD card? If so, how?
I just don't understand why I only have 200MB out of 1GB available. All of my apps are on the SD card now.
What do I need to delete out of the internal memory?
Any help is MUCHO appreciated.
tia
You don't actually have 1GB of usable storage space by default. It's split into partitions, and the user storage is only ~512MB or less (I can't remember how I saw what the internal storage was split up as...)
"ONLY 200MB"
How much do you need?
I get your point. You get the point of my questions though, right?
If you have a fast SD card, you can move the dalvik cache to the SD card and free up another 60 megs or so.
You'll never see most of that gigabyte on your phone. Ever. I think the maximum you're allowed for apps on the internal flash storage is 350 megabytes. Even with Apps2SD, I think the dalvik cache for all of your apps is still stored on the internal memory, which would occupy some space.
I don't know what the heck I'm doing is the problem. Once I figure it out, I'll post some stats for new guys like me.
I've formatted my card correctly. Now I'm just trying to figure out if I'm supposed to wipe my system and reinstall in order for the apps to get "moved over" or not. I'm curious as to whether My Backup Pro or Titanium will "restore" the apps to the SD card now that I'm formatted correctly.
I believe the "moving" is not really moving it happens on install. So yes starting fresh is probably the best way to go.
There is only like 350mb or so of user installable space. Depending on rom it could go up a little but its close.
Also remember, not every single portion of the app gets installed on the SD. Some files still need to be stored on nand, just less. Much less depending on the app.
Just make sure you have a decently fast sd card if you want to move dalvik there. class 6 or better imo. It will work with a slower card but it could slow things down.
Froyo requires ext4 partition btw. Not sure what rom your using.
^^ Thanks for the info. I'm using Fresh 1.0.1, which is good because I don't even know how to make Ext4. I'm using Amon RA to partition and the only upgrade option was from 2 to 3. I didn't see anything about 4.
I'll wipe clean and see what happens.
Oh, one more thing that your post made me think of. The whole reason that I'm doing this is so that I don't have to re-install apps every time I wipe and install a new ROM. I figured that the new ROMs would just find my apps on my SD card.
If this isn't the case then it is not worth it to me. Meaning, if I still have to re-install all apps each time I wipe the device there is no benefit to me.
So: is that the case? Do new ROMs just "find" the apps on the SD card?
Aridon said:
I believe the "moving" is not really moving it happens on install. So yes starting fresh is probably the best way to go.
There is only like 350mb or so of user installable space. Depending on rom it could go up a little but its close.
Also remember, not every single portion of the app gets installed on the SD. Some files still need to be stored on nand, just less. Much less depending on the app.
Just make sure you have a decently fast sd card if you want to move dalvik there. class 6 or better imo. It will work with a slower card but it could slow things down.
Froyo requires ext4 partition btw. Not sure what rom your using.
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Hi,
I have rooted froyo 2.2 with App2Sd enabled and always move everything that possible to the Sd card. In spite of that, I have only 20Mb free space left (I use Android System info app). I have 8GB 6class samsung Sd card and did the partitions as said in guides.
how can I have more space to install more apps or I stuck and just have to decide what important and what not ?
Thanks.
what App2SD?
The native Froyo one or the App2SD+?
The native Froyo one does not move the whole app. Just take a look in the app listing and you'll see how much space it occupies on the internal RAM and how much it occupies on the SD card. You also can't move every app, e.g. no widgets.
The App2SD+ moves all apps to the SD-Card, including cache. But even then the more apps you install the less internal memory is available. That's because of a process I don't exactly remember Some apps unpack stuff which gets copied to the internal data partition, and I don't talk about the cache. Don't know for sure, but you should find it with the search.
When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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Lior84 said:
When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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?? how shall you check the App2SD Version. You either use the + one, by using an EXT2/3 partition and a proper ROM and not moving the apps manually, it gets done automatically, or you use the Froyo one, by moving each app manually to the SD card in the app settings.
To get APPS2SD+ you need a properly set EXT2/3 partition and then flash a ROM supporting it (like Leedroid if you like a Sense ROM, or DeFrost, Opendesire if you like an AOSP ROM), that's it.
Hi,
I need your help. I've got a rooted desire running Oxygen 2.0RC ROM (thanks AdamG).
Question is...I keep running out of space when installing apps. I've seen references to "A2SD and EXT2/3/4" and so forth around the forum.
Can someone explain to me what they are and how I can somehow fool my desire into thinking my 16Gb micro SD card is part of its internal memory. I've already moved as many apps as I can to SD card but I keep running out of space.
Is it even possible to fool the desire into thinking the SD card is internal memory??
thanks in advance!
First of all, you're posting this in the wrong forum- this belongs in the Q n A section.
What you need to do is to use an A2SD+ paritition. Download Rom Manager, and make a partition with 512mb and 0mb swap. This will "extend" your internal storage and give you loads more space.
samleung said:
First of all, you're posting this in the wrong forum- this belongs in the Q n A section.
What you need to do is to use an A2SD+ paritition. Download Rom Manager, and make a partition with 512mb and 0mb swap. This will "extend" your internal storage and give you loads more space.
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Thanks Samleung.
Just tried that. Seems to have worked so far. Am i right to assume that I have now extended my space by 512mb?
It's not necessarily an extension per say. From now on, your apps will still be installed on the internal memory, but with greatly reduced memory needs as it will be installed to the 512mb partition as well. Download "Quick System Info" to see how much of the 512mb has been used.
I suggest you reinstall your rom, just to be extra sure everything is installed there.
Remember to post in the correct section! PM me if you have any more questions.
Droid Incredible Specs:
-OVO Community Rom Sense 3.0
-HTC Kernel
-Android 2.3.4
So I keep getting every week that my phones running out of memory space. I wouldnt mind the message but everytime that happens I have to clear all of my apps cache and data so I can be able to use the Internet if not it wont let me.What I dont understand is how?
-Obviously we have 8GB interior memory
-I have an external 4GB Micro SD Card
So my question is, is there anyway I can possibly use the interior memory of my phone (like the DROID X, etc does it) for the apps and cache and all of the sweet stuff. Since I mostly use my SD Card and a few gigs on the interior memory for music.
????
If thats not possible can I somehow override the message so it will stop bothering me and let me use my apps and internet without having to clear caches and data?
Thanks in Advance
I believe the ext4 mod is what you need to resolve this issue. Found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315372
eljean said:
Droid Incredible Specs:
-OVO Community Rom Sense 3.0
-HTC Kernel
-Android 2.3.4
So I keep getting every week that my phones running out of memory space. I wouldnt mind the message but everytime that happens I have to clear all of my apps cache and data so I can be able to use the Internet if not it wont let me.What I dont understand is how?
-Obviously we have 8GB interior memory
-I have an external 4GB Micro SD Card
So my question is, is there anyway I can possibly use the interior memory of my phone (like the DROID X, etc does it) for the apps and cache and all of the sweet stuff. Since I mostly use my SD Card and a few gigs on the interior memory for music.
????
If thats not possible can I somehow override the message so it will stop bothering me and let me use my apps and internet without having to clear caches and data?
Thanks in Advance
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The low space warning is common among incredible users. It is due to the /data/data partition filling up because it was made ridiculously small by the manufacture, HTC.
You could move apps to sd either nativley, or with the many apps on the market. Link2sd is a great one in my opinion, and the way to go if you choose to use an app to solve your issue.
Or you could use the ext4_no_data_limit mod. What it does is move the app storage (/data/data) off of its own seperate tiny partition and instead uses the much larger /data partition to store your apps needed files.
The first option does not require root, but you have to know how to partition your sd for use with the app.
The second option does require root, and also that you have a kernel that supports ext4. The mod will install a compatible kernel for you, but you cant switch to a different kernel after flashing this mod unless it also supports ext4.
I would go the way of the second option, as it is more reliable than an app, and also is better because it does not use the slow sdcard or emmc. And the gingertiny kernel it installs has tons of perks, and is great on battery life.
Thank you guys! Tons of help
I will apologize in advance for acting the village idiot but i don't get it.
I have been running the script to swap my card for the internal memory.
I have tried both Clean Rom 5.0 and Jedi x16
Tried both with different Kernels
Same Result, I get it to "Work" in that I see the "internal" memory as my 64gig card
However
All apps are still loading to the actual phone memory.
I am at a complete loss as to how I fix this. ill attempt to anwser some of the questions you may have in order to help me........
I am currently running Clean Rom 5.0 with perseus alpha36
card was formatted
ran script properly............Must have or I would have seen the swap under "storage"
Is there a step im missing? I see under app manager that the apps are still going to the actual phone memory.
I hope that made some level of sense and someone can help me out.
What is your micro Sd format?
Fat32
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i'm sorry bud, but android ICS and higher version are not allowed to move apps from Internal to SD. Google made the changes, but there are ways to do this and i assume you are rooted. Here it is, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550, directory bind, i used it for a while, it works.
I have a working zip for this, it swaps the internal and external memory. You still need it?
I believe folder mount may be of some use to you.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en
heres the thread to it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122