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The main reason I got this phone was for the pixel density. I felt I needed it when coming from the iPhone 4.
I know a lot of people here are praising it, but I'm somewhat disappointed.
When I watch videos on it with a fair amount of dark, I notice uneven lighting and streakiness. It also looks like there is a bit of light leaking round the edges of the screen.
Does anyone else notice these or maybe I have a crap phone?
Lots of light bleed and terrible blacks on these screens. I know its HD but I personally will never use anything other than Super AMOLED + ever again.
Its that good.
I can't imagine when Super AMOLED + HD comes out.
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My SGS2 preaches the SuperAMOLED love.
It's the wave of the future.
sean is here. said:
My SGS2 preaches the SuperAMOLED love.
It's the wave of the future.
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can't even look at my i9100 after using the Nitro... Texts look like crap on the sgs2
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Does anyone else notice these
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I haven't, after watching several netflix videos and various youtubes and such. What video were you watching when this happened? I can watch it over here and compare.
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When I watch videos on it with a fair amount of dark, I notice uneven lighting and streakiness.
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What video player are you using? What resolution is the video? What bitrate is the video? You're leaving out some key components.
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can't even look at my i9100 after using the Nitro... Texts look like crap on the sgs2
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Yea? Hows those black levels and light bleed treatin ya?
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What video player are you using? What resolution is the video? What bitrate is the video? You're leaving out some key components.
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I agree I'm watching HD videos.with no problem.
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Yea? Hows those black levels and light bleed treatin ya?
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No light bleed for me. And I don't look at blacks all the time. I do however look at text 100% of the time.
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I haven't seen any of these issues being stated, screen is one of the best I've ever seen and hd movies look great... I like it better than superAMOLED as the colors feel more real and not as over exaggerated. But amoled seems to have some better power efficiency while maintaining the extra brightness which is pretty impressive.
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No light bleed for me. And I don't look at blacks all the time. I do however look at text 100% of the time.
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All of these diplays have light bleed, im sorry you dont know how to look for it. Black levels are extremely important when judging a quality display. This is why plasma has dominated LCD in the tv market for years.
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I haven't seen any of these issues being stated, screen is one of the best I've ever seen and hd movies look great... I like it better than superAMOLED as the colors feel more real and not as over exaggerated. But amoled seems to have some better power efficiency while maintaining the extra brightness which is pretty impressive.
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Thats because they are able to turn black pixels completely off which saves power.
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All of these diplays have light bleed, im sorry you dont know how to look for it. Black levels are extremely important when judging a quality display. This is why plasma has dominated LCD in the tv market for years.
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lol thanks for your OPINION of what a good screen is. Plasmas has excellent blacks vs LCD, but back up your claims with some facts. Plasmas account for less than 10% market share.
I've seen plenty of good screens, and know what makes a screen good. It's just that Pixel density is more important to ME.
And as for your personal attack, i'll just choose not to retaliate.
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seh6183 said:
All of these diplays have light bleed, im sorry you dont know how to look for it. Black levels are extremely important when judging a quality display. This is why plasma has dominated LCD in the tv market for years.
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lol thanks for your OPINION of what a good screen is. Plasmas has excellent blacks vs LCD, but back up your claims with some facts. Plasmas account for less than 10% market share.
I've seen plenty of good screens, and know what makes a screen good. It's just that Pixel density is more important to ME.
And as for your personal attack, i'll just choose not to retaliate.
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That wasn't a personal attack. A personal attack would be to say that statistic you just posted is completely retarded. Plasma has consistently dominated LCD in picture QUALITY not SALES. Since when were we talking about sales? We were talking about picture quality.
There is no opinion about it. The SGS2 screen dominates in that category. Pixel density is better on the Nitro screen, but that's where it stops. That's one category it beats the Amoled screen of about 5.
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this screen handles white extremely well.
I read a lot off my phone with kindle and I can say the pure white background on this nitro HD screen, combined with liquid smooth font makes reading on this a joy. and i've yet to find a quibble with playing back netflix vids and streaming some vids I purchased at amazon the quality is as good as i was hoping for on a 4.5" device sporting 720p.
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I am playing back in the default player because it seems to have the best scrub bar I have found so far (open to alternate suggestions since I'm new ).
I am streaming video @ highest availible setting bitrate from my home server via RemotePotato API in the app called "Remote Media Center." The source is blu-ray riped at 18-20CQ. I don't know what resolution/bitrate it is re-encoded at, but the visual problems I mentioned are not compression artifacts. I do know what to look for.
I can do a side-by-side test with my iPhone 4 and the blacks & darks look considerably more even. Overall, it isn't glaringly obvious, but it annoys me personally.
I expect most non-videophiles probably wouldn't notice.
Ill try to take a picture and post up here to show
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dalamchops said:
That wasn't a personal attack. A personal attack would be to say that statistic you just posted is completely retarded. Plasma has consistently dominated LCD in picture QUALITY not SALES. Since when were we talking about sales? We were talking about picture quality.
There is no opinion about it. The SGS2 screen dominates in that category. Pixel density is better on the Nitro screen, but that's where it stops. That's one category it beats the Amoled screen of about 5.
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Dude you were talking about MARKET. What else would u be talking about lol.
Some of the highend led lcds has blacks that can match with plasmas while having much better whites, being thinner and more efficient.
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I am playing back in the default player because it seems to have the best scrub bar I have found so far (open to alternate suggestions since I'm new ).
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AAAaaaah yes, that could indeed be the culprit right there. Until VLC player is finally ported to Android, I highly recommend giving MoboPlayer a try: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil
I've personally tried at least half a dozen different players and Mobo was and still is my favorite (I watch mostly Divx/Xvid encoded AVI files).
Um... no? Please tell me which LCD TV's have black levels equal to a good plasma so I can return my 50" and get this magical LCD... oh and it would help if it had 600hz too.
Anyway the iPhone's screen is the best LCD on a phone in regards to color and contrast imo... sad that this screen can't match it since LG actually makes the iPhone's screen if I recall correctly...
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LG's 47LW5600 measured .01cd/m2... which is pretty damn good.
Yeah a local dimming LCD, still not that great, response time is slower and it can only dim areas, not individual pixels. Also the algorithm produces artifacts.
"Its edge-lit local dimming LED scheme produces some artifacts and blooming; highlights were somewhat muted in dark scenes; and even from off-angle the picture loses contrast worse than most such TVs." - from the CNet review.
Anyway this is way off topic but there's a reason real home theater systems have a preference for plasma over LCD.
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LG's 47LW5600 measured .01cd/m2... which is pretty damn good.
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whos selling their s3? i'm willing to buy
oblad said:
whos selling their s3? i'm willing to buy
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pm me what size and color you want and ill tell you the price
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pm me what size and color you want and ill tell you the price
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are you a dealer? hope youre not a swindler.
Didn't your last thread get closed?
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Didn't your last thread get closed?
Inb4lock
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+1. This kid thinks XDA is like craigslist lol. Go to the Marketplace kid. C'mon kid atleast read the forum rules.
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+1. This kid thinks xda is like craigslist lol. Go to the marketplace kid. C'mon kid atleast read the forum rules.
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+1000 inb4lock
I have two S3's on mint condition. They're both pebble blue, CDMA Sprint. They're looking for a new owner. PM me if you're interested.
I have a white tmo gs3 in perfect condition comes with box all accessories and an otterbox only asking $450 because im upgrading to the OneX+
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I have a white tmo gs3 in perfect condition comes with box all accessories and an otterbox only asking $450 because im upgrading to the OneX+
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You really mean downgrading, but hey it's your money to waste
Better screen better cpu/gpu yea I think that's a downgrade I'm willing to take
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Better screen better cpu/gpu yea I think that's a downgrade I'm willing to take
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Htc phone doug. Be carefulll
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Better screen better cpu/gpu yea I think that's a downgrade I'm willing to take
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How is that a better screen? To each his own I guess. HTC is so against the development community its an insult.
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How is that a better screen? To each his own I guess. HTC is so against the development community its an insult.
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I say that because Super LCD2 is better than Super Amoled hd period
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Htc phone doug. Be carefulll
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Bikrame is ABSOLUTELY right bro, also take it from me, I used to be a DIE HARD HTC fan, however, after countless years and devices later I just got sick and tired of waiting for them (HTC) to get their **** together. One can only take so much disappointment before they lose all hope and walk away. I've owned only the latest and greatest of HTC phones on the market, and it was only a matter of inevitable time before the random reboots, crashes and frozen screens come into play, you just get fed up of having to constantly take out the battery to fix your phone... SAMSUNG definitely gets the everyday needs of real world use. Love my SGS3 !!!
Just take a quick look at the link below if you're still not convinced bro... In the end, the choice is totally yours to make... We here at XDA just try to help and inform each other the way family would. Best if luck though bud.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/memory/
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I say that because Super LCD2 is better than Super Amoled hd period
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Not to my eyes. I prefer the samoled hd screen over the slcd2 any day. But maybe my eyes are messed up....
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Super AMOLED HD
You’ve probably heard lots of press regarding this display as it’s been the frontman for Galaxy S phones for quite some time now. One of the best features about these display panels is that their black levels are*unparalleled–that is to say that when displaying black, the screen is practically off. This results in much richer detail in images (it’s black level, not white level that increases this quality). Combined with very high brightness and great viewing angles, the result is excellent contrast ratio which makes Super AMOLED displays perform valiantly in the outdoors. You may also hear people describe Super AMOLED colors being “vibrant” and/or “punchy,” which is also due to this great contrast ratio.There are some drawbacks however to this display tech. Due to the nature of how the colors are delivered, Super AMOLED tend to be blue/greenish in color repdouction, which can be unwanted for those preferring neutral color balance. In addition, although the display consumes little power when displaying black, web browsing–which predominantly uses a white background–saps battery life disproportionately quickly. Finally, the display of the Galaxy S III uses a PenTile grid, which decreases*the*actual number of subpixels used on the display (and thus the pixel density)–this is noticeable at high*magnifications, but for most users will go unnoticed.
Super LCD 2
Super LCD 2 is a great all around screen as well. Although it doesn’t have killer black levels or astounding brightness, it has great white balance and accurate color reproduction as well as a true RGB subpixel layout which renders the finest bit of detail. In Chris Ziegler’s review of the One X, he notes that the Super LCD 2 display “[has]*got a near-perfect 180 degree viewing angle and perhaps the most accurate color reproduction and color temperature available…” and furthermore, “At 720p, it falls well into ‘retina’ territory where the individual pixels become invisible to the naked eye.”ConclusionIf the Galaxy S III’s display was a Super AMOLED HD Plus with an RGB stripe display, this debate would simply be a matter of whether you prefer color accuracy or vibrancy of the display, with which the argument could be made that while important for computers, color accuracy is not [as] important on a phone and thus the Super AMOLED’s colors are more*aesthetically*favorable. However taking the PenTile arrangement into account, the rest of the factors can seem to be a moot point to many buyers, especially when they see images like this:
The truth is, unless you have microscopic vision or are purposely looking for image artifacts, there is no way you are going to notice a difference on the screen.
After all of that, it boils down to a matter of personal preference
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dmarco said:
Super AMOLED HD
You’ve probably heard lots of press regarding this display as it’s been the frontman for Galaxy S phones for quite some time now. One of the best features about these display panels is that their black levels are*unparalleled–that is to say that when displaying black, the screen is practically off. This results in much richer detail in images (it’s black level, not white level that increases this quality). Combined with very high brightness and great viewing angles, the result is excellent contrast ratio which makes Super AMOLED displays perform valiantly in the outdoors. You may also hear people describe Super AMOLED colors being “vibrant” and/or “punchy,” which is also due to this great contrast ratio.There are some drawbacks however to this display tech. Due to the nature of how the colors are delivered, Super AMOLED tend to be blue/greenish in color repdouction, which can be unwanted for those preferring neutral color balance. In addition, although the display consumes little power when displaying black, web browsing–which predominantly uses a white background–saps battery life disproportionately quickly. Finally, the display of the Galaxy S III uses a PenTile grid, which decreases*the*actual number of subpixels used on the display (and thus the pixel density)–this is noticeable at high*magnifications, but for most users will go unnoticed.
Super LCD 2
Super LCD 2 is a great all around screen as well. Although it doesn’t have killer black levels or astounding brightness, it has great white balance and accurate color reproduction as well as a true RGB subpixel layout which renders the finest bit of detail. In Chris Ziegler’s review of the One X, he notes that the Super LCD 2 display “[has]*got a near-perfect 180 degree viewing angle and perhaps the most accurate color reproduction and color temperature available…” and furthermore, “At 720p, it falls well into ‘retina’ territory where the individual pixels become invisible to the naked eye.”ConclusionIf the Galaxy S III’s display was a Super AMOLED HD Plus with an RGB stripe display, this debate would simply be a matter of whether you prefer color accuracy or vibrancy of the display, with which the argument could be made that while important for computers, color accuracy is not [as] important on a phone and thus the Super AMOLED’s colors are more*aesthetically*favorable. However taking the PenTile arrangement into account, the rest of the factors can seem to be a moot point to many buyers, especially when they see images like this:
The truth is, unless you have microscopic vision or are purposely looking for image artifacts, there is no way you are going to notice a difference on the screen.
After all of that, it boils down to a matter of personal preference
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I actually do notice the difference though. Samoled hd has deeper blacks and whiter whites than the slCD2. So in the contrast category, Samsung wins imo. Although color reproduction, the slcd 2 had more natural tones.
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Anyone in jersey or.ny can pm me. i got 2 blue 16gb and 1 white 32gb from my upgrades. All brand new never open and still sealed
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oblad said:
didnt your last girlfriend leave you for a real man?
babymatteo thinks hes one of us. but look at his name.. sounds like an illegal. go get a social sec # barrito.. c/mon taco maker read the warning signs before entering the US.
sarni84 << +1000 ass kisser.,..and god knows what else connected to 'ass'
dont like blue
sure.. ill pm you.
price?
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I have reported you and I hope all real members will do the same. We don't need your ignorant, abusive, trash posts here.
And this thread is done as well as the OP
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When I use my friends iPhones or any 720p phones they look very grainy to me. Is it just me or is it because I have gotten used to the QHD display on my G3? I used to think the iPhone screen size was ok...now when I use it it's like a toy, and I have a hard time navigating the screen ?
Also whenever I use the S4 it definitely feels a little more grainy after you get used to the QHD panel. Is anyone else seeing those sideffects. I think my perception quality expectations is out of the roof now...makes me wonder how people claim that a iPhone PPI is more than enough ?
Same here, every smartphone I am looking at looks kinda grainy, it's hard to describe...
The display of my mother in laws Galaxy core something with it's 800x480 4,3" display looks like a crossword puzzle ☺
Frankly even some 720P phones make the iPhone look grainy, the iPhone is one of the lowest DPI phones you can still buy, it doesn't qualify as HD by any definition.
Yup my other phone is iphone 5 and its sh*t compered to g3 my mother huawei g300 that is just ridiculous
Agreed, even the 1080 phones look quite quite grainy. The sharpening and variable quality screens ruin the G3 display though.
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When I use my friends iPhones or any 720p phones they look very grainy to me. Is it just me or is it because I have gotten used to the QHD display on my G3? I used to think the iPhone screen size was ok...now when I use it it's like a toy, and I have a hard time navigating the screen ?
Also whenever I use the S4 it definitely feels a little more grainy after you get used to the QHD panel. Is anyone else seeing those sideffects. I think my perception quality expectations is out of the roof now...makes me wonder how people claim that a iPhone PPI is more than enough ?
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Yes my friend is like riding mule after horse.
My MotoG display still looks great though.
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Frankly even some 720P phones make the iPhone look grainy, the iPhone is one of the lowest DPI phones you can still buy, it doesn't qualify as HD by any definition.
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I know it makes me think what the hell are the iPhone fans thinking when they say that 300 PPI is more than enough or 1080p is unnecessary. Even the New iPhone 6 4.7 and 5.5 inch models won't have FHD. Totally will look grainy for sure.
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Same here, every smartphone I am looking at looks kinda grainy, it's hard to describe...
The display of my mother in laws Galaxy core something with it's 800x480 4,3" display looks like a crossword puzzle ☺
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Lol I could spot every pixel on my vibrant with ease. It has a 800×480 resolution too and it's super amoled to make it worse lol
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My MotoG display still looks great though.
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Well yeah, I'm just talking about graininess
Not just you, I also have a Moto X and that screen just screams of pixelation.
I'm starting to see old image assets showing their true low definition in apps, live wallpapers, games ect. Luckyily this isnt a 4k phone or it might be more noticable, as is things will only improve for 2k and 4k as time progresses. I can really tell text has lost the jagged edges it had with my old 720p phone which is nice.
Wanted to add it will be strange seeing mobile devices pushing uhd more than most, remember the image quality android and ois started with?
You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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and by plastic are you refering to the anti-glare ones because they definately make a screen look grainy
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You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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I use tempered glass. So does my other friend. The pentile matrix makes it more noticible.
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I have a g2 and an S4 in my framily and they both look okay when compared to my G3
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I have a g2 and an S4 in my framily and they both look okay when compared to my G3
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Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.
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Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.
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When I say they look okay, I mean they look okay... Not fantastic or anything. I personally like the lg g3 display. It doesn't have that saturated look that Apple pushes with almost all of their displays.
It's more like a Eizo or Ben-q monitor. I guess you just have to work on them for period of time to appreciate it..
Some folks will dislike the output and some will make the necessary color adjustments to the device. I have colleagues who have looked at footage or hi res pictures on my device and they like the output..
YMMV
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When I say they look okay, I mean they look okay... Not fantastic or anything. I personally like the lg g3 display. It doesn't have that saturated look that Apple pushes with almost all of their displays.
It's more like a Eizo or Ben-q monitor. I guess you just have to work on them for period of time to appreciate it..
Some folks will dislike the output and some will make the necessary color adjustments to the device. I have colleagues who have looked at footage or hi res pictures on my device and they like the output..
YMMV
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The S4 and G2 displays are sti some very nice displays buddy. R2member they are still 1080p display.
With the galaxy s series phones you can calibrate the screen really good. On my issue is screen burn in.
The g2 to me is an okay display. The s4,wasn't something I cared for display wise. I still have my G2. I never noticed screen burn in with my g2
I tried using my calibrator on my g2 and I failed!!
When the new devices drop, it will be the same issues. The iPhone will have glue issues like they always. People will complain about the note 4 display until a few updates come out, and people will talk about the moto's radio more than anything else. The N6 will be buttery smooth , and that will be the sticking point for most with each particular device..
Power consumption concerning the higher end displays will be interesting with these devices..
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What's also interesting will be if these displays actually change after being used for a while. My tv needed X amount of burn in time before the calibrator came out and to my place and did some adjustments to the tv.
If anyone can expound on if that is the case with these displays that would be interesting to get some source material on and read up on the subject.
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The g2 to me is an okay display. The s4,wasn't something I cared for display wise. I still have my G2. I never noticed screen burn in with my g2
I tried using my calibrator on my g2 and I failed!!
When the new devices drop, it will be the same issues. The iPhone will have glue issues like they always. People will complain about the note 4 display until a few updates come out, and people will talk about the moto's radio more than anything else. The N6 will be buttery smooth , and that will be the sticking point for most with each particular device..
Power consumption concerning the higher end displays will be interesting with these devices..
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What's also interesting will be if these displays actually change after being used for a while. My tv needed X amount of burn in time before the calibrator came out and to my place and did some adjustments to the tv.
If anyone can expound on if that is the case with these displays that would be interesting to get some source material on and read up on the subject.
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LCD displays do in fact cure over time. They just like everything else typically take time to burn in.
helikido said:
Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.
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Cost, cost, cost.....
Ok, in order to keep all the reviews in one place, I have created this thread.
My review of the Huawei Watch went live this morning - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/09/21/huawei-watch-my-review/
If you have any questions please ask, and I will happily try and answer them. Also, I have personally owned and own many smart watches and wearables , so could also try and answer comparison type questions.
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Ok, in order to keep all the reviews in one place, I have created this thread.
My review of the Huawei Watch went live this morning - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/09/21/huawei-watch-my-review/
If you have any questions please ask, and I will happily try and answer them. Also, I have personally owned and own many smart watches and wearables , so could also try and answer comparison type questions.
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Hello, what is the battery life like with screen always on mode? hoping to get 20 hours out of it.
Johnabis said:
Hello, what is the battery life like with screen always on mode? hoping to get 20 hours out of it.
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2 day max. Personally I recharge it when I have a shower, so recharge it everyday.
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2 day max. Personally I recharge it when I have a shower, so recharge it everyday.
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2 days max? thats amazing. but thats with screen always on (ambient mode)? so i guess you go about 24 hours on a single charge with screen always on mode. what is the percentage of battery left at that point?
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Hello, what is the battery life like with screen always on mode? hoping to get 20 hours out of it.
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I made a OP for battery life discussion and more info. I use mine with always on moxe and get good battery life (possibly 1.5 days if I don't charge it every night)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3206336
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2 day max. Personally I recharge it when I have a shower, so recharge it everyday.
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2 days with use with screen on (ambient mode). Don't see the point of having a watch with the time not always showing.
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2 days with use with screen on (ambient mode). Don't see the point of having a watch with the time not always showing.
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I agree its pointless, a watch that can't be read all of the time is not a watch.
Well i do have one complaint. Compared to my urbane, the screen is not as bright, especially ambient mode. Its impossible to see outside in daylight. My urbane was always readable.
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Well i do have one complaint. Compared to my urbane, the screen is not as bright, especially ambient mode. Its impossible to see outside in daylight. My urbane was always readable.
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That's a downside to AMOLED, which gets much better battery life in ambient mode due to tbr nature of the tech.
tiny4579 said:
That's a downside to AMOLED, which gets much better battery life in ambient mode due to tbr nature of the tech.
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HUH??? Both the urbane and Huawei are AMOLED.
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HUH??? Both the urbane and Huawei are AMOLED.
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If you see my review , I have both photographed. I much preferred the screen clarity on the Huawei Watch. Didn't notice issues in sun either, but maybe its sunnier where you are?
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HUH??? Both the urbane and Huawei are AMOLED.
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Uhh disregard. I was probably thinking another lg or a moto or just got it wrong or forgot. Could just be a brighter screen on the urbane or some kind of color/brightness tuning.
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HUH??? Both the urbane and Huawei are AMOLED.
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The Urbane has a POLED != AMOLED
Pilz said:
The Urbane has a POLED != AMOLED
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Just to add, the POLED is MUCH cheaper and is supposedly not as good as the AMOLED screens. (I did quite a bit if research on the types of screens)
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Just to add, the POLED is MUCH cheaper and is supposedly not as good as the AMOLED screens. (I did quite a bit if research on the types of screens)
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I like POLEDs just as much as I Like AMOLEDs but it depends on the quality of each display
IMO, LG makes the best watch displays. (brightness and color are perfect) Phones, I still think my buddy's LG G3's screen looks much better than my Note 3.
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IMO, LG makes the best watch displays. (brightness and color are perfect) Phones, I still think my buddy's LG G3's screen looks much better than my Note 3.
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To me it's all about personal taste.
I.e I read about people saying that the LG G4 has a better screen quality than the Note 5 while to me it's completely madness.
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jeffc83 said:
IMO, LG makes the best watch displays. (brightness and color are perfect) Phones, I still think my buddy's LG G3's screen looks much better than my Note 3.
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Don't think that's a fair comparison as they're from different generations. Better to compare LG G3 with Note 4.
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TechAnimal said:
Don't think that's a fair comparison as they're from different generations. Better to compare LG G3 with Note 4.
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This is true....I just hate Samsung at this point, lol. (Note 2 was good, Note 3 is worse than my 2 was and is a POS)
Black metal
Hi, would you comment on the quality of the band, and the black coating?
Also, on promotions pictures, it seems the black frame of the watch has a "brushed effect", does it look as cool as it appears to be?
I don't mind the leather band of the cheaper model, but am really wondering if the brushed black metal is worth the extra 100$.
Thank you,
David
I've been seen a lot of bashing going on regarding the OP3'd display, which is getting rather annoying.
I've put together a side-by-side comparing my OP3 to my Note 4.
Notes: The OP3 is using the screen protector out of the box, which is admittedly pretty garbage. The Note 4 also has a screen protector (plastic), but it's a premium brand.
Settings: The OP3 is at full brightness with the color temperature slider all the way to the right. The Note 4 is using AMOLED photo mode at full brightness. I took this photo with a Canon G7X and locked the color balance using a grey card. These photos are untouched, other than cropping and resizing slightly.
Can you tell which is which? Does one have more detail over the other?
OP3: Left
Samsung Galaxy Note 4: Right
I'd suggest looking at this photo on a calibrated monitor for better accuracy.
(I've included the original file to compare to).
I'd also like to add that critics are calling the OP3 display as the "worst display", while the Note 4 has one of the best in recent years.
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Awesome man, thanks for this. The exaggerations of the media (one way or another) drive me nuts. This puts to rest my only concern.
The colors on the oneplus are way too over saturated. The skin tones look orange. This is nitpicking obviously. Oneplus said they're releasing an update anyways to address this issue so it won't be a problem. The note 4 has a better display doesn't change anything .
There's also a blue cast on the oneplus screen.
That screen banding in the blue sky on the OP3, is it something that came up in the photo or can you actually see it? Because colours slightly off I can take, but that is a big no
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That screen banding in the blue sky on the OP3, is it something that came up in the photo or can you actually see it? Because colours slightly off I can take, but that is a big no
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That's actually because of the screen protector. It also smears fingerprints really bad despite me cleaning it.
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malek777 said:
The colors on the oneplus are way too over saturated. The skin tones look orange. This is nitpicking obviously. Oneplus said they're releasing an update anyways to address this issue so it won't be a problem. The note 4 has a better display doesn't change anything .
There's also a blue cast on the oneplus screen.
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It may have been bias to yellow/orange/red because I had the color temperature cranked all the way to the right. Also, if you are viewing that image from a monitor that is not calibrated it will look bad (or at least much worse than in real life).
I asked my wife which looked better and she immediately picked the OP3. Ironically, citing it was sharper/more detailed and the colors are more natural.
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While neither is very accurate, if I had to choose between the two then it'd be the OP3 for sure.
While over-saturated, the colors look more natural in comparison to the blueish tint that the Note 4 has which is particularly obvious on the whites.
As for the "worst screen" comment, all that bull started from the (admittedly honest) Anandtech review and a rather poor choice of words, especially as "worst" is actually a rather inaccurate word seeing as what they meant was that the calibration was the furthest off from "true-to-life" than any other screen.
To their credit, they were quick to mention that this was obviously BY DESIGN as in, OnePlus actually CHOSE to steer away from color accuracy in favor of more pleasing colors and also mentioned that OnePlus apparently targeted the NTSC color gamut instead of the more natural-looking sRGB.
That's also the part where they mentioned that OnePlus will be adding an sRGB option in the next OTA, at which point they'll re-evaluate that part of the review.
IMHO it is sad that an honest account of a critical reviewer was taken out of context and used from people that never even saw the phone up close to bash it.
I can understand why OnePlus calibrated this AMOLED display the way they did. Coming from the OnePlus 2's IPS LCD, they wanted to flex a bit with the OnePlus 3 and wow us in a similar manner as Samsung is always wowing users with their screens. Could you trade a Honda for a Lexus and not open her up a bit on the highway on the way home?
There are inevitably going to be people who like the punchy, poppy colors of the OnePlus 3 display and those who would prefer it to be more subdued and true-to-life. The admirable thing is that OnePlus is working on an update that will allow users to choose which they prefer. I think that's truly commendable.
Note 4 was a good display but not the best these days. I have Note 3,4,Nexus 6/6P, S7Edge. I find the OP3 is the closest to Note 3, it has same resolution. The colors are better on the OP3, the brightness better on Note3. I think some areas the OP3 is a bit washed out in the reds compare to Note 4. The Nexus 6p most neutral. S7Edge colors are bold. So I don't think OP3 has a bad display, it's better than Nexus 6, a bit better than Note 3 can't say it's better or worse really. So perhaps there are bad screens out there but I am lucky that mine is good overall.
so do this again with sRGB for color accuracy people
I had a deep look at my coworker's OP3, after he updated to 3.2.1 with sRGB feature added.
Well, I think it is a very good display and I like it a lot better when in sRGB mode: much more natural colors, less "neon glow" effect.
That said, my colleague prefers the native color calibration so again it all comes down to personal preferences.
Note 4 has one of the best in recent years?
hell no. Both of them have yellowish tone and too over saturated. For me, high quality IPS is the best, for ex : sony Z4
thanhnvt194 said:
Note 4 has one of the best in recent years?
hell no. Both of them have yellowish tone and too over saturated. For me, high quality IPS is the best, for ex : sony Z4
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It was rated as the most accurate display of it's time. This is not using Samsung display modes btw.
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I've been seen a lot of bashing going on regarding the OP3'd display, which is getting rather annoying.
I've put together a side-by-side comparing my OP3 to my Note 4.
Notes: The OP3 is using the screen protector out of the box, which is admittedly pretty garbage. The Note 4 also has a screen protector (plastic), but it's a premium brand.
Settings: The OP3 is at full brightness with the color temperature slider all the way to the right. The Note 4 is using AMOLED photo mode at full brightness. I took this photo with a Canon G7X and locked the color balance using a grey card. These photos are untouched, other than cropping and resizing slightly.
Can you tell which is which? Does one have more detail over the other?
OP3: Left
Samsung Galaxy Note 4: Right
I'd suggest looking at this photo on a calibrated monitor for better accuracy.
(I've included the original file to compare to).
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Do you happen to have an older phone by the way? Please compare it to that too and then convince us with your results that based on your comparison you came to the conclusion that this display is great. Jokes aside, compare it to a recent flagship not to something that was made 3 ywars ago.
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Do you happen to have an older phone by the way? Please compare it to that too and then convince us with your results that based on your comparison you came to the conclusion that this display is great. Jokes aside, compare it to a recent flagship not to something that was made 3 ywars ago.
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Yeah, this is no longer something I need to prove as the srgb mode has made the OnePlus 3 one of the best out there: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10445/revisiting-the-oneplus-3/2
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Yeah, this is no longer something I need to prove as the srgb mode has made the OnePlus 3 one of the best out there: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10445/revisiting-the-oneplus-3/2
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Sure sure in your dreams may be. Nobody uses srgb mode anyways because whites are so yellow. But if you are that shallow person to just go by what a review said then go ahead stick to srgb lol
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Sure sure in your dreams may be. Nobody uses srgb mode anyways because whites are so yellow. But if you are that shallow person to just go by what a review said then go ahead stick to srgb lol
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So what exactly are you doubting? That the sRGB mode on the OP3 isn't as accurate as professional equipment says it is, or that your eyes know what "real white" looks like?
I happen to calibrate multiple monitors using high end equipment, and to most people white looks "warm". The sRGB mode on the OP3 looks as accurate as any monitor I work on, so what's the problem?
And fortunately, professionals don't use eyes to determine color accuracy and white points, so this argument really is silly.
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So what exactly are you doubting? That the sRGB mode on the OP3 isn't as accurate as professional equipment says it is, or that your eyes know what "real white" looks like?
I happen to calibrate multiple monitors using high end equipment, and to most people white looks "warm". The sRGB mode on the OP3 looks as accurate as any monitor I work on, so what's the problem?
And fortunately, professionals don't use eyes to determine color accuracy and white points, so this argument really is silly.
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Professionals my arse. I don't care what "professionals" call white inside a lab. This is real life, not lab life. If you think those yellow whites are the real whites then you are due for an eyes appointment really soon. We are talking display quality here, not calibration quality. If you want to talk about display quality then compare it to 2016 devices, not to 2013 devices. Your Note 4 is too old, sorry.
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This is real life, not lab life. If you think those yellow whites are the real whites then you are due for an eyes appointment really soon. We are talking display quality here, not calibration quality.
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So instruments which measure display color accuracy aren't to be trusted? In "real life" we generally don't allow subjective preference to override objective measurements.
I can't understand why anyone would be upset about this. If you don't prefer accurate whites then go with a display that gives cool whites instead.
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