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LG I want my yellow back

So, I love everything about this G Pro except one thing it was bought for. The display of it is a disaster. I mean it's the worst LG smartphones' display in some years. I prefer to use indoors @ 60% brightness with autobrightness on and in this setting everything looks so dim, grey and almost unseen-able. Especially yellows, I mean there's almost no yellow colors @ all even at 100% brightness, but at 60% it's even worse. And to not be a windbag I've snapped some comparison photos of G Pro next to another LG smartphone, which has, IMO, the best screen ever. When you hold them both in hands its no question which one you'll keep to yourself being forced to choose
So if LG will continue to mistakenly set their display's color temperature to 10000K, I confess my next phone would be HTC or even Motorola. I don't want to see ppl faces of corpse skin colors, and green everywhere where yellow supposed to be
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What do you think?

I'm at 25% brightness and I can see the yellows in the pics you posted just fine.
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Return it if you don't like. I love it
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Billy Madison said:
So, I love everything about this G Pro except one thing it was bought for. The display of it is a disaster. I mean it's the worst LG smartphones' display in some years. I prefer to use indoors @ 60% brightness with autobrightness on and in this setting everything looks so dim, grey and almost unseen-able. Especially yellows, I mean there's almost no yellow colors @ all even at 100% brightness, but at 60% it's even worse. And to not be a windbag I've snapped some comparison photos of G Pro next to another LG smartphone, which has, IMO, the best screen ever. When you hold them both in hands its no question which one you'll keep to yourself being forced to choose
So if LG will continue to mistakenly set their display's color temperature to 10000K, I confess my next phone would be HTC or even Motorola. I don't want to see ppl faces of corpse skin colors, and green everywhere where yellow supposed to be
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Your comparison phone is over-saturated and blown out. I am looking at the images on an very expensive and calibrated IPS at work. Neither phone has it right, but the G Pro is closer in comparison. The G Pro certainly is cooler in color causing the yellow to become green-ish. But comparing an almost green image looking for yellow is silly. It won't make people look like corpses... you can test that too, with pictures of people... odd you didn't include that in your image set.
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Wait, hold the phone, there is one person in your test, and they don't like like a corpse... imagine that.
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Wow, if you really can't see that the G Pro looks better, you need to have your eyes checked.
Can you really not see how **** the other devices screen looks?
What ever you used to take the pictures is very grainy too... just fyi.

Is that a nexus 4?
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So take the phone back. Mine looks fine.
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colts187 said:
Is that a nexus 4?
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That's a LG Nitro.

Sharpshooterrr said:
That's a LG Nitro.
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every review I can find about it knocks points for the screen. I guess if you are used to looking at crap...

designgears said:
Your comparison phone is over-saturated and blown out.
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No, its not. It's Nitro which has the best screen ever. Ask owners, they'll confirm it.
designgears said:
I am looking at the images on an very expensive and calibrated IPS at work. Neither phone has it right, but the G Pro is closer in comparison. The G Pro certainly is cooler in color causing the yellow to become green-ish. But comparing an almost green image looking for yellow is silly.
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You don't see my point or don't want to. Look on your expensive IPS at this image http://www.google.com/search?site=imghp&tbm=isch&q=5403393757_b5b17ea28d_o.jpg You see? There's tons of colors in it. Then transfer it to your G Pro and open, it made all color turned into shades of blue. It's intolerable. Well, Nitro also make this image bluish, sort of, but in way no as blue as G Pro
Nitro has its fallacies, of course, it can't show every possible color in the Universe, as I remember it covers 87% or 97% of sRGB when G Pro covers 99% sRGB. But Nitro has col.temp set around 6800K and all images looks true to life. I haven's seen one person who was dissatisfied with that screen, even photographers. And G Pro has around 9000K, it's way too much, the white percepted as grey, yellow almost gone and turned green, oranges turn into cherries and etc
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What ever you used to take the pictures is very grainy too... just fyi.
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IDC, I mean I want somebody who has proper cameras and access to second hand phones to find HTC One, lay it next to G Pro and make the same comparison as mine.

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php Mine shows yellow just fine here...btw the image you're giving us is really low resolution :silly:

cleankutazn said:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php Mine shows yellow just fine here...
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No, even there it has slight green tint, and white below is blueish, you must have good IPS monitor or mobile display at hand to compare. When you compare the difference is stunning and eye-popping.
Also, in original post the second picture is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester showing yellow on both devices and in archive all other main colors like white, red, blue. My concern is yellow and white because the white is what you looking at most of the time
cleankutazn said:
btw the image you're giving us is really low resolution :silly:
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It's for the sake of download size. Their intent is to show common picture not to zoom searching for details and pixels

designgears said:
I guess if you are used to looking at crap...
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No. I'm used to looking @ superfine LG's matrix
samomamo said:
Return it if you don't like. I love it
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It's complicated, can't return it, only sell to somebody not as picky as me. But what buy instead?
I want lg to recalibrate and put true color in the next ROM, I know it's possible, first Nexus4 had bright screens with wrong gamma, then in april they started to sell truly calibrated Nexuses
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That's a LG Nitro.
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BINGO! you knew it, you knew!

Wait too much excitement up in here for me. I'm going to go to a quiet place and take my nitroglycerin pills.
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Mine looks fine too, clearly you have a faulty phone. And looking at the pics I think the OGP looks more realistic.

Hendrickson said:
Mine looks fine too, clearly you have a faulty phone. And looking at the pics I think the OGP looks more realistic.
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No, I don't think so. Every other youtube review unit had the same cucumber-blueish tint on white background, EVERY. So it's LGs settings that are faulty.
Do you have any spare phone at hand? Like HTC One? It almost perfectly calibrated. Go to some place, put the same white or yellow wallpapers on both devices and compare which unit will be more eyepleasing and easier to look at. I'm sure the other phone than G Pro will be
We're waiting for anandtech review, pity that he doesn't even look at G Pro, it even prefer noname Oppo Find5, it means bad for LG, it's bad marketing that even anandtech doesn't review their phones

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No, I don't think so. Every other youtube review unit had the same cucumber-blueish tint on white background, EVERY. So it's LGs settings that are faulty.
Do you have any spare phone at hand? Like HTC One? It almost perfectly calibrated. Go to some place, put the same white or yellow wallpapers on both devices and compare which unit will be more eyepleasing and easier to look at. I'm sure the other phone than G Pro will be
We're waiting for anandtech review, pity that he doesn't even look at G Pro, it even prefer noname Oppo Find5, it means bad for LG, it's bad marketing that even anandtech doesn't review their phones
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I have yet to find a single review that had anything negative to say about the display on the Pro. The worst comment is that it's almost as good as S4/One. I even saw the color accuracy praised in a review. I don't doubt there are likely exceptions, but not in the ~10 reviews I browsed through.
My co-worker has an HTC One and while due to size his screen looks crisper, the Pro looks damn good otherwise.

Checked out that link, everything looked perfectly like they saidit was supposed to even at lower brightnesses...maybe u just have a bad screen, i watcj lots of vids and pix on mine and they all look fine

vinniemac84 said:
Checked out that link, everything looked perfectly like they saidit was supposed to even at lower brightnesses...maybe u just have a bad screen, i watcj lots of vids and pix on mine and they all look fine
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you watch vids & pix at 100% brightness? or at 40%? Try at 40% everything will be dull and dim
xenx said:
I have yet to find a single review that had anything negative to say about the display on the Pro. The worst comment is that it's almost as good as S4/One
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http://gizmodo.com/lg-optimus-g-pro-review-the-fastest-big-phone-out-ther-510096255 for example, they clearly state that the screen is subpar
"The screen is very nice. Text looks great on it, as do videos. It's not as good as the screen on the One or the S4"
B'cause it is, it has very wrong color balance blue-tinted and also anti glare coating is absent, when I look onto black color I perfectly see myself like in mirror

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you watch vids & pix at 100% brightness? or at 40%? Try at 40% everything will be dull and dim
http://gizmodo.com/lg-optimus-g-pro-review-the-fastest-big-phone-out-ther-510096255 for example, they clearly state that the screen is subpar
"The screen is very nice. Text looks great on it, as do videos. It's not as good as the screen on the One or the S4"
B'cause it is, it has very wrong color balance blue-tinted and also anti glare coating is absent, when I look onto black color I perfectly see myself like in mirror
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"The screen is very nice." First sentence in what you quoted. Not a single one of the reviews mentioned an issue with the color balance. I personally do not see an issue with the color balance. A number of other people in this thread don't see an issue with the color balance. I definitely saw an issue between the two in the picture, but my phone doesn't look like that and from the sounds of it.. neither do most of the other people's. So, if everyone else is telling you it's your phone...

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you watch vids & pix at 100% brightness? or at 40%? Try at 40% everything will be dull and dim
http://gizmodo.com/lg-optimus-g-pro-review-the-fastest-big-phone-out-ther-510096255 for example, they clearly state that the screen is subpar
"The screen is very nice. Text looks great on it, as do videos. It's not as good as the screen on the One or the S4"
B'cause it is, it has very wrong color balance blue-tinted and also anti glare coating is absent, when I look onto black color I perfectly see myself like in mirror
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Why are you so effing worked up over this? It's not nearly how you describe. Almost everything you have pointed out is either slanted/strategically chosen quotes from actually solid reviews or pure hyperbole.
Just sell the flippin thing and move on, your exaggerated criticisms are going to scare off developers that we desperately need.
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Is it just me?

When I use my friends iPhones or any 720p phones they look very grainy to me. Is it just me or is it because I have gotten used to the QHD display on my G3? I used to think the iPhone screen size was ok...now when I use it it's like a toy, and I have a hard time navigating the screen ?
Also whenever I use the S4 it definitely feels a little more grainy after you get used to the QHD panel. Is anyone else seeing those sideffects. I think my perception quality expectations is out of the roof now...makes me wonder how people claim that a iPhone PPI is more than enough ?

Same here, every smartphone I am looking at looks kinda grainy, it's hard to describe...
The display of my mother in laws Galaxy core something with it's 800x480 4,3" display looks like a crossword puzzle ☺

Frankly even some 720P phones make the iPhone look grainy, the iPhone is one of the lowest DPI phones you can still buy, it doesn't qualify as HD by any definition.

Yup my other phone is iphone 5 and its sh*t compered to g3 my mother huawei g300 that is just ridiculous

Agreed, even the 1080 phones look quite quite grainy. The sharpening and variable quality screens ruin the G3 display though.

helikido said:
When I use my friends iPhones or any 720p phones they look very grainy to me. Is it just me or is it because I have gotten used to the QHD display on my G3? I used to think the iPhone screen size was ok...now when I use it it's like a toy, and I have a hard time navigating the screen ?
Also whenever I use the S4 it definitely feels a little more grainy after you get used to the QHD panel. Is anyone else seeing those sideffects. I think my perception quality expectations is out of the roof now...makes me wonder how people claim that a iPhone PPI is more than enough ?
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Yes my friend is like riding mule after horse.

My MotoG display still looks great though.

ChrisM75 said:
Frankly even some 720P phones make the iPhone look grainy, the iPhone is one of the lowest DPI phones you can still buy, it doesn't qualify as HD by any definition.
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I know it makes me think what the hell are the iPhone fans thinking when they say that 300 PPI is more than enough or 1080p is unnecessary. Even the New iPhone 6 4.7 and 5.5 inch models won't have FHD. Totally will look grainy for sure.
Fir3blade said:
Same here, every smartphone I am looking at looks kinda grainy, it's hard to describe...
The display of my mother in laws Galaxy core something with it's 800x480 4,3" display looks like a crossword puzzle ☺
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Lol I could spot every pixel on my vibrant with ease. It has a 800×480 resolution too and it's super amoled to make it worse lol
trent999 said:
My MotoG display still looks great though.
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Well yeah, I'm just talking about graininess

Not just you, I also have a Moto X and that screen just screams of pixelation.

I'm starting to see old image assets showing their true low definition in apps, live wallpapers, games ect. Luckyily this isnt a 4k phone or it might be more noticable, as is things will only improve for 2k and 4k as time progresses. I can really tell text has lost the jagged edges it had with my old 720p phone which is nice.
Wanted to add it will be strange seeing mobile devices pushing uhd more than most, remember the image quality android and ois started with?

You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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and by plastic are you refering to the anti-glare ones because they definately make a screen look grainy

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You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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I use tempered glass. So does my other friend. The pentile matrix makes it more noticible.
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I have a g2 and an S4 in my framily and they both look okay when compared to my G3

grifter9931 said:
I have a g2 and an S4 in my framily and they both look okay when compared to my G3
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Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.

helikido said:
Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.
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When I say they look okay, I mean they look okay... Not fantastic or anything. I personally like the lg g3 display. It doesn't have that saturated look that Apple pushes with almost all of their displays.
It's more like a Eizo or Ben-q monitor. I guess you just have to work on them for period of time to appreciate it..
Some folks will dislike the output and some will make the necessary color adjustments to the device. I have colleagues who have looked at footage or hi res pictures on my device and they like the output..
YMMV
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grifter9931 said:
When I say they look okay, I mean they look okay... Not fantastic or anything. I personally like the lg g3 display. It doesn't have that saturated look that Apple pushes with almost all of their displays.
It's more like a Eizo or Ben-q monitor. I guess you just have to work on them for period of time to appreciate it..
Some folks will dislike the output and some will make the necessary color adjustments to the device. I have colleagues who have looked at footage or hi res pictures on my device and they like the output..
YMMV
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The S4 and G2 displays are sti some very nice displays buddy. R2member they are still 1080p display.
With the galaxy s series phones you can calibrate the screen really good. On my issue is screen burn in.

The g2 to me is an okay display. The s4,wasn't something I cared for display wise. I still have my G2. I never noticed screen burn in with my g2
I tried using my calibrator on my g2 and I failed!!
When the new devices drop, it will be the same issues. The iPhone will have glue issues like they always. People will complain about the note 4 display until a few updates come out, and people will talk about the moto's radio more than anything else. The N6 will be buttery smooth , and that will be the sticking point for most with each particular device..
Power consumption concerning the higher end displays will be interesting with these devices..
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What's also interesting will be if these displays actually change after being used for a while. My tv needed X amount of burn in time before the calibrator came out and to my place and did some adjustments to the tv.
If anyone can expound on if that is the case with these displays that would be interesting to get some source material on and read up on the subject.
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grifter9931 said:
The g2 to me is an okay display. The s4,wasn't something I cared for display wise. I still have my G2. I never noticed screen burn in with my g2
I tried using my calibrator on my g2 and I failed!!
When the new devices drop, it will be the same issues. The iPhone will have glue issues like they always. People will complain about the note 4 display until a few updates come out, and people will talk about the moto's radio more than anything else. The N6 will be buttery smooth , and that will be the sticking point for most with each particular device..
Power consumption concerning the higher end displays will be interesting with these devices..
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What's also interesting will be if these displays actually change after being used for a while. My tv needed X amount of burn in time before the calibrator came out and to my place and did some adjustments to the tv.
If anyone can expound on if that is the case with these displays that would be interesting to get some source material on and read up on the subject.
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LCD displays do in fact cure over time. They just like everything else typically take time to burn in.

helikido said:
Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.
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Cost, cost, cost.....

Screen quality

Anyone else find the screen to be lacking sharpness?
I'm coming from a gs5, and this phone doesn't seem as crisp with text as well as images.
Went to best buy tonight and looked at the 3 they had on display and they all looked the same.
I also think the colors are muted compared to the gs5, but I'm not sure if that is a bad thing or not.

harlenm said:
Anyone else find the screen to be lacking sharpness?
I'm coming from a gs5, and this phone doesn't seem as crisp with text as well as images.
Went to best buy tonight and looked at the 3 they had on display and they all looked the same.
I also think the colors are muted compared to the gs5, but I'm not sure if that is a bad thing or not.
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the colors "seem muted" to you coming from a gs5 because the gs5 colors are saturated. the note 4's colors are more closer to the right color spectrum than any amoled display has ever been. the note 4's colors are more natural, more realistic.

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the colors "seem muted" to you coming from a gs5 because the gs5 colors are saturated. the note 4's colors are more closer to the right color spectrum than any amoled display has ever been. the note 4's colors are more natural, more realistic.
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Thank you, I do understand that. But it still doesn't explain why the screen seems blurry compared to the gs5.
It's almost as if everything the extra resolution is causing it. If I look at a very high resolution picture, it appear to look fine, but then everything else seems slightly off.

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But it still doesn't explain why the screen seems blurry compared to the gs5.
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I thought I was the only one. I got my Note 4 yesterday and of course I didn't take my eyes off of it for a good hour or so and I thought it was in my head that my vision was blurry. After reading that the phone may not get root and the display disappointment, I'm strongly considering taking it back and keeping my S5.

Lay off the drugs! Screen is awsome for me
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I thought I was the only one. I got my Note 4 yesterday and of course I didn't take my eyes off of it for a good hour or so and I thought it was in my head that my vision was blurry. After reading that the phone may not get root and the display disappointment, I'm strongly considering taking it back and keeping my S5.
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Where did you see no root?

Stigga said:
Where did you see no root?
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Several threads here in the General section. For AT&T phones, anyway.

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Several threads here in the General section. For AT&T phones, anyway.
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Anything post ATT release or the general old root talk

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Anything post ATT release or the general old root talk
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Towel Root was the only way to root and it is now owned by Google, so...

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Towel Root was the only way to root and it is now owned by Google, so...
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Oh snap I didn't know tgat

brentsalinas714 said:
Lay off the drugs! Screen is awsome for me
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If you compared it to a GS5 you wouldn't think the same. GS5 screen is best I've ever used.

Have you tried changing the screen mode options?

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Have you tried changing the screen mode options?
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Yeah, doesn't do anything except change the colors slightly. The more I'm using the phone the more I get used to it. I really hated the S5, so I'm not going back to it(the bluetooth wouldn't work properly with my car).

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If you compared it to a GS5 you wouldn't think the same. GS5 screen is best I've ever used.
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My S5 is right next to me displaying the same images and text and I have to disagree with you. Everything is just as sharp or sharper on my Note 4 screen.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
My S5 is right next to me displaying the same images and text and I have to disagree with you. Everything is just as sharp or sharper on my Note 4 screen.
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This.
At the PPI we're talking about for all three phones (Note 3, SGS5, Note 4) unless you have better than 20/20 vision and/or are holding the device less than 10" away differences in sharpness wouldn't be detectable. Difference in display quality yes. It's about visual acuity which is the lowest common denominator.
As for the Note 4<>Note 3, the display seems "better." What better means to me (which is purely subjective) is it's brighter on the same setting I previously used, it seems crisper, and the colors seem more realistic.
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If you compared it to a GS5 you wouldn't think the same. GS5 screen is best I've ever used.
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Subjectively, based on your tastes, sure, why not. Objectively, not so much...
Our detailed Lab tests show that there have been significant display performance improvements in the new Note models [4 & Edge] including higher resolution, higher absolute color accuracy with better calibration, higher peak brightness with improved screen visibility and readability in high ambient light, and higher display power efficiency, resulting in a number of new records for Smartphone display performance.
What is particularly significant and impressive is that Samsung has been systematically improving OLED display performance twice a year with each Galaxy generation since 2010. With the Galaxy Note 4 there are many significant improvements over the Galaxy Note 3 that we tested a year ago, but also with the Galaxy S5 that we tested in March, and Galaxy Tab S that we tested in June. The most impressive improvements for the Galaxy Note 4 are in the pixels per inch and resolution, the Absolute Color Accuracy, Peak Brightness and screen viewability in High Ambient Light, and display Power Efficiency, which we discuss in turn below.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm​​

Here is a side by side. Maybe it's just because everything is bigger that it looks slightly blurry to me.
Not sure how good this will look.

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Not sure how good this will look.
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The only thing that matters is how you think it looks. Like so many subjective things discussed on XDA (lag, battery life, overheating, build quality, AOSP vs. overlay) if you're looking for consensus it ain't gonna happen.

BarryH_GEG said:
The only thing that matters is how you think it looks. Like so many subjective things discussed on XDA (lag, battery life, overheating, build quality, AOSP vs. overlay) if you're looking for consensus it ain't gonna happen.
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I was referring to how the picture came out.
Edit, because it was taken with a crappy iPhone 6.

On my screen some apps makes the whole screen color go 10shades higher, if you catch my drift. Is anyone else having that issue?

browniegirl said:
On my screen some apps makes the whole screen color go 10shades higher, if you catch my drift. Is anyone else having that issue?
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What do you mean? While you are outside in sunlight?

SmartWatch 3 is the best, yellow tint workaround

I must say Sony SmartWatch 3 is the best current smart watch as unlike other watches I own (LG G Watch, Samsung Gear S)...
I can use it outside in the sun
I can charge it using simple micro USB at work or simply anywhere without having to worry about charging cradle
I switch it off and power it on without cradle
Wifi!
GPS!
No need for switching to cinema mode when watching movies
As I wrote, it has a button so I can disable the damn touch to wake
Ambient light sensor!
When I first installed my watchface to my brand new SW3 I noticed that the white color looked indeed with yellowish tint while the tiny bit darker shade (#EEEEEE) looked like perfectly shining white. I ended up using this color for SW3 in this watchface. Is it just my mind playing tricks on me (because of all the surrounding black) or is it really white without tint?
This all makes want to try re-style the colors of the system clockwork apk and maybe system styles/colors to this shade.

Have to agree .. all the above points are valid and makes me more happy now. thanks

leojab said:
Have to agree .. all the above points are valid and makes me more happy now. thanks
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you missed out IP68 and NFC
I only notice the yellow, in certain light at a certain angle... its nothing that concerns me in the slightest.
The Smartwatch 3 is definitely the est choice of a smartwatch for a utilitarian...

At least in Sweden, the pricing is very attractive too

I'm happy to read this topic, I've just won the bidding on eBay at $ 128 ☺
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just got it
i also have a gear 2 neo, and screen on sony looks like an old phone screen
viewing angles are rally bad
android wear has a lot more functionality and you are not tight to a brand, but i'm kind of disappointed with screen quality

al404 said:
just got it
i also have a gear 2 neo, and screen on sony looks like an old phone screen
viewing angles are rally bad
android wear has a lot more functionality and you are not tight to a brand, but i'm kind of disappointed with screen quality
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This is kinda on purpose. Sony opted for transflective so it can be used in sunlight very easily. The trade off is the screen quality isn't "as good" as others. But in all honesty I'd rather be able to use it outside. You get used to the yellowing and it becomes barely noticeable.

I wonder if they'll stick with transflective. Anybody know whether it's their own technology?

AlexOB1 said:
I wonder if they'll stick with transflective. Anybody know whether it's their own technology?
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Transflective? No, the version of the screen they use, maybe?
Transflective has been around for a while just always called something different:
BE+: SolarbON
Boe Hydis: Viewiz
Motion Computing: View Anywhere
LG Display: Shine-Out
NEC Displays: ST-NLT
DEMCO CSI: SOLARBON
Pixel Qi: 3Qi
Panasonic: CircuLumin
Getac: QuadraClear
Dell: DirectVue or DirectView.
Sony just calls it by what the technology actually is instead of some fancy name to convince consumers theirs is better.
Since this watch is geared toward sports transflective is the best option to me, saves battery and so much easier to see.. I don't think they will go away from it unless they make multiple versions. Right now I just hope they actually release a Z4c

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Transflective? No, the version of the screen they use, maybe?
Transflective has been around for a while just always called something different:
BE+: SolarbON
Boe Hydis: Viewiz
Motion Computing: View Anywhere
LG Display: Shine-Out
NEC Displays: ST-NLT
DEMCO CSI: SOLARBON
Pixel Qi: 3Qi
Panasonic: CircuLumin
Getac: QuadraClear
Dell: DirectVue or DirectView.
Sony just calls it by what the technology actually is instead of some fancy name to convince consumers theirs is better.
Since this watch is geared toward sports transflective is the best option to me, saves battery and so much easier to see.. I don't think they will go away from it unless they make multiple versions. Right now I just hope they actually release a Z4c
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Interesting, but who does supply the SW3 panel? Basically I'm wondering if the technology is being developed sufficiently to keep up with AMOLED watch screens. SW3 battery life not as good as I expected, I assumed it would be better than the AMOLED watches.
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AlexOB1 said:
Interesting, but who does supply the SW3 panel? Basically I'm wondering if the technology is being developed sufficiently to keep up with AMOLED watch screens. SW3 battery life not as good as I expected, I assumed it would be better than the AMOLED watches.
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Hmm I will look into it to see if I can find a manufacturer, I usually take my electronics apart and look at the parts and play with them but I haven't done it to any smartwatches yet... Just haven't had the time.
And your SW3 gets worse battery life than an AMOLED? I haven't seen that personally. My SW3 gets 2 days minimum on a charge. My Zenwatch lucky to get 1, my Gear S can get one with 30% or so left.

There are major bugs affecting battery life, and the sw3 seems more susceptible due to the transflective screen. Right now many people get hours. This is an android bug and not a function of the tech itself. Sony is working on it, but it is making many people myself included rethink the device.

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There are major bugs affecting battery life, and the sw3 seems more susceptible due to the transflective screen.
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On what bloody planet does the screen tech have *anything* to do with the battery drain bug!?!?
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The theory is that our screen stays in ambient mode constantly whereas most people do not let the others stay on so long due to battery drain. On our screen, ambient mode should not use much battery so we use it constantly, but on the other device gives most people leave the always on off because the screen is actually always on.
In ambient mode in addition to the normal mode, the watch is constantly connecting and disconnecting from the phone. This is triggering a drain.
If the screen is off, it is not happening.
It seems logical, but is not my theory. I am just reiterating the chatter on the other thread.
One thing I can say, our watch sleeps differently than other wear watches because of the screen. Therefore we will potentially notice wakelocks differently than them.

Huawei watch display comparison

Hey guys, I work for best buy and bought the huawei watch after some reps for the company came in to show us the Mate 7 and the watch. I ordered the mesh band and love the subtlty of the watch, but I noticed the colors are quite muted for an amoled panel compared to the urbane I had. Can anyone compare the two for me to prove I'm not crazy? Like with a Facebook notification comparison? The blues I'm sure are distinctly different between the two panels. Just want to make sure I don't have a faulty panel.

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Hey guys, I work for best buy and bought the huawei watch after some reps for the company came in to show us the Mate 7 and the watch. I ordered the mesh band and love the subtlty of the watch, but I noticed the colors are quite muted for an amoled panel compared to the urbane I had. Can anyone compare the two for me to prove I'm not crazy? Like with a Facebook notification comparison? The blues I'm sure are distinctly different between the two panels. Just want to make sure I don't have a faulty panel.
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Your not crazy. I feel the same way, its also not as bright. Thinking I'm selling my huawei, and going back to my urbane. Not sure why the urbane never got the love it deserved???

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Your not crazy. I feel the same way, its also not as bright. Thinking I'm selling my huawei, and going back to my urbane. Not sure why the urbane never got the love it deserved???
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I loved the urbane except for looks, the lugs I felt were manufactured way too thick. I'll probably also return the huawei and test the gear s2s classic. If I don't like that one its back to the urbane.

Djjolly037 said:
I loved the urbane except for looks, the lugs I felt were manufactured way too thick. I'll probably also return the huawei and test the gear s2s classic. If I don't like that one its back to the urbane.
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Disagree about the lugs, looks like most big high end watches today. I thought I would like the higher resolution and .1 in bigger display on the huawei, but I don't. Bummer.

suzook said:
Disagree about the lugs, looks like most big high end watches today. I thought I would like the higher resolution and .1 in bigger display on the huawei, but I don't. Bummer.
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I agree with what you are saying about the looks on the lugs. Me with my ridiculously small guy wrists means it really stands out at least on my arm. Apple watch is like the square version of huawei that's why I like the size so much.

I agree with the screen quality and noticed it right away. (not that you still think you're crazy now, lol) Having said that, I am keeping mine because I like how it looks in dim mode, which is what displays 99% of the time. Yes, I still find my Urbane and LGR better but this is still a very nice screen IMO...just needs a color calibration.

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I agree with the screen quality and noticed it right away. (not that you still think you're crazy now, lol) Having said that, I am keeping mine because I like how it looks in dim mode, which is what displays 99% of the time. Yes, I still find my Urbane and LGR better but this is still a very nice screen IMO...just needs a color calibration.
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Im wondering if it has anything to do with the sapphire glass??? Sapphire glass tends to have a slight titn, along with anti reflective properties.

suzook said:
Im wondering if it has anything to do with the sapphire glass??? Sapphire glass tends to have a slight titn, along with anti reflective properties.
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Could be....it's not dramatic but I'll admit, the colors tend to look washed out a little. (scale of 1-10 for color quality, I'd still give it a 7) Regarding the lugs, I agree

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Could be....it's not dramatic but I'll admit, the colors tend to look washed out a little. (scale of 1-10 for color quality, I'd still give it a 7) Regarding the lugs, I agree
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Yup, sending my huawei back to amazon...Bummer thought this thing would be so much better than urbane. Still not sure why the urbane has so much hate?? Its an incredible watch.

suzook said:
Yup, sending my huawei back to amazon...Bummer thought this thing would be so much better than urbane. Still not sure why the urbane has so much hate?? Its an incredible watch.
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Im keeping my LGR and Urbane without a doubt! The Urbane is way too underrated... Why? I don't know.

jeffc83 said:
Im keeping my LGR and Urbane without a doubt! The Urbane is way too underrated... Why? I don't know.
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I liked mind but it looked too much like a smart watch to me it was as wife as my wrist in a noticeable way. The Huawei is about as wide but it looks better. I'm enjoying mine more than I did my LG but that's because of the styling and the crown position is a plus

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I liked mind but it looked too much like a smart watch to me it was as wife as my wrist in a noticeable way. The Huawei is about as wide but it looks better. I'm enjoying mine more than I did my LG but that's because of the styling and the crown position is a plus
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That's what I like about the Huawei. IMO, the Urbane looks like a smartwatch only because the Bezel was just thrown in there, should've been raised! (I still like it) The LGR is much better and looks/feels like a regular watch! Of course to me the winner is the Huawei but the LGR is a close second! I switch watches daily anyway, lol.

Just went back to my urbane, The screen is SO much better. Not sure WTF huawei did with this screen, but its pale colors, and dim brightness are a dealbreaker. Maybe if I didnt own an urbane, I wouldnt know what i am missing.

Same here...wore the Urbane yesterday and truly missed the Huawei. For God sakes, I'm wearing my Seamaster today and STILL miss the Huawei... I must be sick

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Same here...wore the Urbane yesterday and truly missed the Huawei. For God sakes, I'm wearing my Seamaster today and STILL miss the Huawei... I must be sick
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HUH?? I DONT miss the huawei.

@suzook LOL, that was a funny friggin' mistake. I read the wrong post and responded out if order. (damn phone scrolled up automatically) My bad man...

This is probably one of the reasons: http://www.reddit.com/r/hwatch/comments/3mcsdf/_/
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I tried to see it and could not. I don't have a camera to take a long exposure with, though, but frankly if that is what it takes to see it, I am not all that concerned.
Edit: referring to the red tint thing.
Edit again: OK, I was able to reproduce the red tint. Don't think its a big deal at this point unless the red sub-pixels burn out.

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I tried to see it and could not. I don't have a camera to take a long exposure with, though, but frankly if that is what it takes to see it, I am not all that concerned.
Edit: referring to the red tint thing.
Edit again: OK, I was able to reproduce the red tint. Don't think its a big deal at this point unless the red sub-pixels burn out.
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I think whether or not it's a big deal is definitely an opinion that changes per user and that's fine. Right now I'm just trying to confirm that is does affect all devices.
Bottom line is it is a defect and not how OLED is supposed to work. It bothers me personally for a few reasons but Huawei has yet to give details on why it is happening and how it can be fixed so I don't know if I should return my watch or keep and hope.

I almost wonder if it is some kind of dumb underflow issue. Or, they intentionally add a little red to the screen to enhance low light visibility, but over simplified the approach a bit too much. Or the driver for the screen leaks some voltage. Who knows at this point.