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Got my ZL today...

...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!

sturmtruppler said:
...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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I am planning to get the white one, then see your post.I've experienced the same screen color issue with The Xperia T

I think you mean realistic display rather than over saturated crap that's on most phones. I actually find the display
Temperature with the styling quite mature and refreshing.
The vibration needs some tweaking but it's not a deal breaker.
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Vibration can be set to low there's an option in the menu, seems like you never liked the zl from the start. Most of things you are complaining can be fixed, well except the viewing angles

sturmtruppler said:
...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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I find it comical that members feel the need to open a new thread only to voice their displeasure. Thanks for your opinion and best of luck with whichever device you obtain next. I wish I had such trivial things to fixate on as vibration sensation.

I had a previous unit where the vibration was loud it made a very cheap sound. I eventually replaced the unit due to a bad camera everything was noisy. My new unit is much better, the vibration is no longer strange in any way. Maybe some bad units going around.

augie7107 said:
I find it comical that members feel the need to open a new thread only to voice their displeasure. Thanks for your opinion and best of luck with whichever device you obtain next. I wish I had such trivial things to fixate on as vibration sensation.
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#firstworldproblems man. (shakes head)

htc fan89 said:
seems like you never liked the zl from the start.
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Lol... yes, that's why i bought it...

Do you mean the colors are washed out head on? If thats the case, then you should try getting a different unit. My screen looks really good. Its only when you tilt it does the screen wash out real quick. It sucks and detracts the quality of the phone, but the pros of the ZL far outweigh something which wont matter to me as i rarely look at the screen from an angle.
As for the vibration, I didn't notice yet before you mentioned it. But yes, it does seem a little weak.

I got my phone like 3 days ago, not having any issues with it. Screen looks great while watching videos or playing games. I don't need that blue tint or any of those oversaturated crap.

rycexboi said:
I got my phone like 3 days ago, not having any issues with it. Screen looks great while watching videos or playing games. I don't need that blue tint or any of those oversaturated crap.
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Yep, thats why I absolutely detest AMOLED screens! However, no reason Sony couldnt have put in a LCD that looks as good as the One X. The screen on that phone is spectacular

augie7107 said:
I find it comical that members feel the need to open a new thread only to voice their displeasure. Thanks for your opinion and best of luck with whichever device you obtain next. I wish I had such trivial things to fixate on as vibration sensation.
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+1, no need for a new thread.. if it was an in-depth review that's another story...

up to the user
I just read this thread now and I agree good luck to you on whichever phone you like and hopefully it is all you want it to be.
I have now gotten into a seemingly 6 months or less cycle before I decide to try something new...ugh
The only thing I have to say is having an unlocked phone is so much better as you are not tied into the cell providers Android update cycle (if they want it) and their bloatware.
One more thing, having had a note I am not a fan in general of the crazy colore on the AMOLED screens.
As it is it is a feeling - I just love my ZL (and my Nexus 4 is going bye bye - I do have a Nexus 10)

glovesave said:
I just read this thread now and I agree good luck to you on whichever phone you like and hopefully it is all you want it to be.
I have now gotten into a seemingly 6 months or less cycle before I decide to try something new...ugh
The only thing I have to say is having an unlocked phone is so much better as you are not tied into the cell providers Android update cycle (if they want it) and their bloatware.
One more thing, having had a note I am not a fan in general of the crazy colore on the AMOLED screens.
As it is it is a feeling - I just love my ZL (and my Nexus 4 is going bye bye - I do have a Nexus 10)
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As compare to Nexus 4,How is looking your Xperia ZL Colors(I'm not asking about viewing angle), is it possible to Put Stock Android in Zl if yes anyone try it,How the experience feel with stock?

hmm
Those over saturated screens make the screen look amazing. Why did you guys choose to get an xperia? I'd rather get the s4 because its easier to root and plus there's always a ton of ROMs for it

I like Sony for their design. If samsung would change the design from plastic to something better then I wouldn't mind buying one from Samsung. The phone feel too light and like holding a toy in your hand...

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As compare to Nexus 4,How is looking your Xperia ZL Colors(I'm not asking about viewing angle), is it possible to Put Stock Android in Zl if yes anyone try it,How the experience feel with stock?
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The colors seem very comparable, neither phone has over-saturated colors. The ZL screen is gorgeous, but if you are looking for a deal, the Nexus is it for 350.

username2k13 said:
Those over saturated screens make the screen look amazing. Why did you guys choose to get an xperia? I'd rather get the s4 because its easier to root and plus there's always a ton of ROMs for it
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Screen tech is a matter of personal choice. Those over saturated colors give me a raging headache if i look at the screen for a long time, i.e playing games, watching movies. I dont know how exactly to put this but LCD screens just LOOK more sophisticated and toned down. Uhh, like a printed sheet of paper. Unlike AMOLED which looks like a kindergarten kid went wild with crayons on the screen.
And Samsung phones easier to root? Building ROMS for them are a PITA. Ask every single dev who has completely abandoned Samsung phones. there might be plenty of ROMs sure, but all of them have some or the other problem. Not to mention the fact that Samsung are a bunch of liars.

sturmtruppler said:
...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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why did you order this phone in the first place ??? Dont you think you should read/watch reviews before getting a $600.00 phone ?

anirudh412 said:
Screen tech is a matter of personal choice. Those over saturated colors give me a raging headache if i look at the screen for a long time, i.e playing games, watching movies. I dont know how exactly to put this but LCD screens just LOOK more sophisticated and toned down. Uhh, like a printed sheet of paper. Unlike AMOLED which looks like a kindergarten kid went wild with crayons on the screen.
And Samsung phones easier to root? Building ROMS for them are a PITA. Ask every single dev who has completely abandoned Samsung phones. there might be plenty of ROMs sure, but all of them have some or the other problem. Not to mention the fact that Samsung are a bunch of liars.
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Completely agree, here. I came to the ZL from nothing but Samsung phones (Captivate, Galaxy Nexus, SGS3), and I much prefer the ZL's screen to any Samsung phone screen. For one, I can never read Sammy screens when outdoors on a cloudless sunny day, even with the brightness at maximum. I have had no issues reading the ZL screen in the same conditions, which I'll take over better viewing angles and oversaturated colors any day. As for comparing to LG screens, well, if I'm not mistaken, LG also makes amoled screens, so I wouldn't expect much different than Sammy screens there -- last I checked, the two were suing each other over the technology. The ZL compared to the N4 -- I must say, I finally saw an N4 in person this past weekend, and the screen on it is quite beautiful. I still like my ZL, though, and the lack of LTE radios in the N4 makes it a non-issue for me, no matter how pretty the phone might be (and I'm not keen on a glass back anyways).
I do agree that it would have been great had Sony used something as nice as the LCD in the One X, though. That screen was amazing looking (I had the pleasure of seeing one in person when my brother had a One X for awhile).
Good luck to the OP in finding a device that meets those expectations -- the ZL is the first AT&T LTE capable unlocked phone to hit the USA, and that's a big part of why it intrigued me, too. I suspect it'll be awhile before there's another device like that ...

LG I want my yellow back

So, I love everything about this G Pro except one thing it was bought for. The display of it is a disaster. I mean it's the worst LG smartphones' display in some years. I prefer to use indoors @ 60% brightness with autobrightness on and in this setting everything looks so dim, grey and almost unseen-able. Especially yellows, I mean there's almost no yellow colors @ all even at 100% brightness, but at 60% it's even worse. And to not be a windbag I've snapped some comparison photos of G Pro next to another LG smartphone, which has, IMO, the best screen ever. When you hold them both in hands its no question which one you'll keep to yourself being forced to choose
So if LG will continue to mistakenly set their display's color temperature to 10000K, I confess my next phone would be HTC or even Motorola. I don't want to see ppl faces of corpse skin colors, and green everywhere where yellow supposed to be
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What do you think?

I'm at 25% brightness and I can see the yellows in the pics you posted just fine.
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Return it if you don't like. I love it
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Billy Madison said:
So, I love everything about this G Pro except one thing it was bought for. The display of it is a disaster. I mean it's the worst LG smartphones' display in some years. I prefer to use indoors @ 60% brightness with autobrightness on and in this setting everything looks so dim, grey and almost unseen-able. Especially yellows, I mean there's almost no yellow colors @ all even at 100% brightness, but at 60% it's even worse. And to not be a windbag I've snapped some comparison photos of G Pro next to another LG smartphone, which has, IMO, the best screen ever. When you hold them both in hands its no question which one you'll keep to yourself being forced to choose
So if LG will continue to mistakenly set their display's color temperature to 10000K, I confess my next phone would be HTC or even Motorola. I don't want to see ppl faces of corpse skin colors, and green everywhere where yellow supposed to be
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Your comparison phone is over-saturated and blown out. I am looking at the images on an very expensive and calibrated IPS at work. Neither phone has it right, but the G Pro is closer in comparison. The G Pro certainly is cooler in color causing the yellow to become green-ish. But comparing an almost green image looking for yellow is silly. It won't make people look like corpses... you can test that too, with pictures of people... odd you didn't include that in your image set.
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Wait, hold the phone, there is one person in your test, and they don't like like a corpse... imagine that.
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Wow, if you really can't see that the G Pro looks better, you need to have your eyes checked.
Can you really not see how **** the other devices screen looks?
What ever you used to take the pictures is very grainy too... just fyi.

Is that a nexus 4?
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So take the phone back. Mine looks fine.
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colts187 said:
Is that a nexus 4?
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That's a LG Nitro.

Sharpshooterrr said:
That's a LG Nitro.
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every review I can find about it knocks points for the screen. I guess if you are used to looking at crap...

designgears said:
Your comparison phone is over-saturated and blown out.
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No, its not. It's Nitro which has the best screen ever. Ask owners, they'll confirm it.
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I am looking at the images on an very expensive and calibrated IPS at work. Neither phone has it right, but the G Pro is closer in comparison. The G Pro certainly is cooler in color causing the yellow to become green-ish. But comparing an almost green image looking for yellow is silly.
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You don't see my point or don't want to. Look on your expensive IPS at this image http://www.google.com/search?site=imghp&tbm=isch&q=5403393757_b5b17ea28d_o.jpg You see? There's tons of colors in it. Then transfer it to your G Pro and open, it made all color turned into shades of blue. It's intolerable. Well, Nitro also make this image bluish, sort of, but in way no as blue as G Pro
Nitro has its fallacies, of course, it can't show every possible color in the Universe, as I remember it covers 87% or 97% of sRGB when G Pro covers 99% sRGB. But Nitro has col.temp set around 6800K and all images looks true to life. I haven's seen one person who was dissatisfied with that screen, even photographers. And G Pro has around 9000K, it's way too much, the white percepted as grey, yellow almost gone and turned green, oranges turn into cherries and etc
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What ever you used to take the pictures is very grainy too... just fyi.
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IDC, I mean I want somebody who has proper cameras and access to second hand phones to find HTC One, lay it next to G Pro and make the same comparison as mine.

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php Mine shows yellow just fine here...btw the image you're giving us is really low resolution :silly:

cleankutazn said:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php Mine shows yellow just fine here...
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No, even there it has slight green tint, and white below is blueish, you must have good IPS monitor or mobile display at hand to compare. When you compare the difference is stunning and eye-popping.
Also, in original post the second picture is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester showing yellow on both devices and in archive all other main colors like white, red, blue. My concern is yellow and white because the white is what you looking at most of the time
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btw the image you're giving us is really low resolution :silly:
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It's for the sake of download size. Their intent is to show common picture not to zoom searching for details and pixels

designgears said:
I guess if you are used to looking at crap...
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No. I'm used to looking @ superfine LG's matrix
samomamo said:
Return it if you don't like. I love it
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It's complicated, can't return it, only sell to somebody not as picky as me. But what buy instead?
I want lg to recalibrate and put true color in the next ROM, I know it's possible, first Nexus4 had bright screens with wrong gamma, then in april they started to sell truly calibrated Nexuses
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That's a LG Nitro.
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BINGO! you knew it, you knew!

Wait too much excitement up in here for me. I'm going to go to a quiet place and take my nitroglycerin pills.
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Mine looks fine too, clearly you have a faulty phone. And looking at the pics I think the OGP looks more realistic.

Hendrickson said:
Mine looks fine too, clearly you have a faulty phone. And looking at the pics I think the OGP looks more realistic.
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No, I don't think so. Every other youtube review unit had the same cucumber-blueish tint on white background, EVERY. So it's LGs settings that are faulty.
Do you have any spare phone at hand? Like HTC One? It almost perfectly calibrated. Go to some place, put the same white or yellow wallpapers on both devices and compare which unit will be more eyepleasing and easier to look at. I'm sure the other phone than G Pro will be
We're waiting for anandtech review, pity that he doesn't even look at G Pro, it even prefer noname Oppo Find5, it means bad for LG, it's bad marketing that even anandtech doesn't review their phones

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No, I don't think so. Every other youtube review unit had the same cucumber-blueish tint on white background, EVERY. So it's LGs settings that are faulty.
Do you have any spare phone at hand? Like HTC One? It almost perfectly calibrated. Go to some place, put the same white or yellow wallpapers on both devices and compare which unit will be more eyepleasing and easier to look at. I'm sure the other phone than G Pro will be
We're waiting for anandtech review, pity that he doesn't even look at G Pro, it even prefer noname Oppo Find5, it means bad for LG, it's bad marketing that even anandtech doesn't review their phones
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I have yet to find a single review that had anything negative to say about the display on the Pro. The worst comment is that it's almost as good as S4/One. I even saw the color accuracy praised in a review. I don't doubt there are likely exceptions, but not in the ~10 reviews I browsed through.
My co-worker has an HTC One and while due to size his screen looks crisper, the Pro looks damn good otherwise.

Checked out that link, everything looked perfectly like they saidit was supposed to even at lower brightnesses...maybe u just have a bad screen, i watcj lots of vids and pix on mine and they all look fine

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Checked out that link, everything looked perfectly like they saidit was supposed to even at lower brightnesses...maybe u just have a bad screen, i watcj lots of vids and pix on mine and they all look fine
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you watch vids & pix at 100% brightness? or at 40%? Try at 40% everything will be dull and dim
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I have yet to find a single review that had anything negative to say about the display on the Pro. The worst comment is that it's almost as good as S4/One
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http://gizmodo.com/lg-optimus-g-pro-review-the-fastest-big-phone-out-ther-510096255 for example, they clearly state that the screen is subpar
"The screen is very nice. Text looks great on it, as do videos. It's not as good as the screen on the One or the S4"
B'cause it is, it has very wrong color balance blue-tinted and also anti glare coating is absent, when I look onto black color I perfectly see myself like in mirror

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you watch vids & pix at 100% brightness? or at 40%? Try at 40% everything will be dull and dim
http://gizmodo.com/lg-optimus-g-pro-review-the-fastest-big-phone-out-ther-510096255 for example, they clearly state that the screen is subpar
"The screen is very nice. Text looks great on it, as do videos. It's not as good as the screen on the One or the S4"
B'cause it is, it has very wrong color balance blue-tinted and also anti glare coating is absent, when I look onto black color I perfectly see myself like in mirror
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"The screen is very nice." First sentence in what you quoted. Not a single one of the reviews mentioned an issue with the color balance. I personally do not see an issue with the color balance. A number of other people in this thread don't see an issue with the color balance. I definitely saw an issue between the two in the picture, but my phone doesn't look like that and from the sounds of it.. neither do most of the other people's. So, if everyone else is telling you it's your phone...

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you watch vids & pix at 100% brightness? or at 40%? Try at 40% everything will be dull and dim
http://gizmodo.com/lg-optimus-g-pro-review-the-fastest-big-phone-out-ther-510096255 for example, they clearly state that the screen is subpar
"The screen is very nice. Text looks great on it, as do videos. It's not as good as the screen on the One or the S4"
B'cause it is, it has very wrong color balance blue-tinted and also anti glare coating is absent, when I look onto black color I perfectly see myself like in mirror
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Why are you so effing worked up over this? It's not nearly how you describe. Almost everything you have pointed out is either slanted/strategically chosen quotes from actually solid reviews or pure hyperbole.
Just sell the flippin thing and move on, your exaggerated criticisms are going to scare off developers that we desperately need.
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Torn Between

I would like to get a new smart watch. My Friend has the 360 which I think looks awesome. But that flat tire thing really bugs me. I hate the way that looks. I though with the Moto 360 2 they would have removed that but they didn't. So now I am also looking at the new Huawei watch. Which to me looks pretty much identical to the 360 but without the flat tire thing. Are the android versions pretty much the same thing on all watches? I've read the Huawei is slightly thinner than the 360. Both are the same price $350. Just not sure which one to get....

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I would like to get a new smart watch. My Friend has the 360 which I think looks awesome. But that flat tire thing really bugs me. I hate the way that looks. I though with the Moto 360 2 they would have removed that but they didn't. So now I am also looking at the new Huawei watch. Which to me looks pretty much identical to the 360 but without the flat tire thing. Are the android versions pretty much the same thing on all watches? I've read the Huawei is slightly thinner than the 360. Both are the same price $350. Just not sure which one to get....
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The flat area is really a non-issue after the first 10 minutes with the watch.
Keep in mind that the Huawei has a 300mAh battery (and an AMOLED screen) while Moto 360 v2 has 400mAh battery (but LCD screen). I think the 360 V2 will have better battery life - in part due to their experience with V1 (while the Huawei has none) - and this is important. Also, the Moto 360 has a 1.56" screen while the Huawei has a 1.4" screen. Screen size matters on such a small device. The less bezel area, the better.

That flat tire thing as much as I tried to ignore it just bugs the heck out of me. I think it looks really really lame. I would gladly give up a little space to have it gone.

Any reason you don't want the LG Urbane?

I don't like the bezel on it...

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I don't like the bezel on it...
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Then you've already made your decision. You don't like the flat tire on the 360s, you don't like the LG models and you have nothing negative from your POV about the Huawei watch. They all run the same Android Wear, so functionally they are identical. Although they have some differences in hardware. This leaves you with no choice, but the Huawei watch.

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I don't like the bezel on it...
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Not sure why the flat tire is an issue. With a small battery like that you'd only look at the screen less than a minute every time, and if you're not admiring the watch but actually take a glance at the screen you will not notice and forget about the flat tire being there. Pretty sure practicality matters more than fashion (not like the 360 is ugly or anything).
On a side note, from my experience at least I have to look at the watch twice to tell the time, because it displays more information than a normal watch would I forget to look at the time.
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I'm sorry but I'd rather have a screen with a flat tire than a small screen like the Huawei watch.
Seriously people complain about the flat tire but the truth is that all the other models have a huge bezel around and smaller screens.
The 360's screen is actually 20% bigger than the huawei watch.

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Not sure why the flat tire is an issue. With a small battery like that you'd only look at the screen less than a minute every time, and if you're not admiring the watch but actually take a glance at the screen you will not notice and forget about the flat tire being there. Pretty sure practicality matters more than fashion (not like the 360 is ugly or anything).
On a side note, from my experience at least I have to look at the watch twice to tell the time, because it displays more information than a normal watch would I forget to look at the time.
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I agree 100%. I didn't care for it and really put off getting it, but ended up getting one and now it's totally a non issue. Never even notice it anymore and there is a watch gave that actually used it in its design.

Who received a Pixel 2 XL with absolutely no blue shift?

Who received a Pixel 2 XL with absolutely no blue shift?

from everything i've read that phone doesn't exist, they all have it to some degree. seems like everyone agrees that the shift varies and photos seem to show that. But oddly enough i have yet to see a single photo/video that has two P2XL next to each other having a different tint, so i'm sorta skeptical any are different and the variation i photos can be explained by room lighting and or white balance of the camera taking the photo of the screen.
Ive compared mine to two others in real life and all were identical in shift (which in my opinion is really bad).

Mine is very minimal to the point I can't notice it unless I look really hard which I don't.

bossei said:
Mine is very minimal to the point I can't notice it unless I look really hard which I don't.
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That is amazing as most appear to have it. Mine isn't what I would call intense blue but it is a distracting thing starting at 5 degrees and I think I will return it. Love the phone if they hadn't of cheapened out on displays.

lightfire said:
That is amazing as most appear to have it. Mine isn't what I would call intense blue but it is a distracting thing starting at 5 degrees and I think I will return it. Love the phone if they hadn't of cheapened out on displays.
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I agree;. I wish the went with Samsung screens but since they invested a billion dollars in LG that isn't going to happen.

I constantly run with "night mode" on, I really see no blue shift with it active.

bossei said:
I agree;. I wish the went with Samsung screens but since they invested a billion dollars in LG that isn't going to happen.
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They invested a billion dollars in LG?

aysiu said:
They invested a billion dollars in LG?
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For OLED screens...

If you get the blue shift try the oreo colorizer, it made it so I don't even notice it till the phone is almost at 90 degrees.

RiffyDivine said:
If you get the blue shift try the oreo colorizer, it made it so I don't even notice it till the phone is almost at 90 degrees.
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I didnt see any different w/ oreo colorizer and my blue shift (does make the colors pop more).

I hardly notice it on mine. It's not there until it hits a certain degree angle, as another stated already, then it's pretty minor. It honestly looks like the screen is just getting a tad darker, like I've seen on other phones (like my s7 edge)... And it doesn't show for everything. I don't see it in videos or pictures or really anything that's not a white or very light color. Honestly, let's be real, how often do you look at your phone from an angle lol.

I can see a slight blue shift when angled but it doesn't bother me because I don't look at my phone from an angle. And the slight blue tint is only obvious if you're looking for it specifically or looking at photos with alot of white color.

RiffyDivine said:
If you get the blue shift try the oreo colorizer, it made it so I don't even notice it till the phone is almost at 90 degrees.
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off-axis shifting is a hardware issue, not a software one.. no amount of apps or updates will change it.

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I hardly notice it on mine. It's not there until it hits a certain degree angle, as another stated already, then it's pretty minor. It honestly looks like the screen is just getting a tad darker, like I've seen on other phones (like my s7 edge)... And it doesn't show for everything. I don't see it in videos or pictures or really anything that's not a white or very light color. Honestly, let's be real, how often do you look at your phone from an angle lol.
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I look at mine at an angle all the time. If it is sitting at a desk in front of you, it is at an angle. A blue angle, in this case.

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off-axis shifting is a hardware issue, not a software one.. no amount of apps or updates will change it.
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Absolutely yes, hardware issue. Google cheapened out on panels with LG. Someone should be fired for allowing these to be sold with these issues. I can't imagine anyone who cares (in Quality Control or product manager) signing off on these as to release to public.

SquallLHeart said:
off-axis shifting is a hardware issue, not a software one.. no amount of apps or updates will change it.
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Then I guess magic happened cause mines pretty much fine now except at the far stuff around 80+

lightfire said:
I look at mine at an angle all the time. If it is sitting at a desk in front of you, it is at an angle. A blue angle, in this case.
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Lol. I thought about that, but, if I'm not holding my phone in my hand, I'm not doing anything like reading something, or FB, or whatever, so I'll really never have the blue hue problem. Videos and such don't seem to have the tint problem for me.

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Lol. I thought about that, but, if I'm not holding my phone in my hand, I'm not doing anything like reading something, or FB, or whatever, so I'll really never have the blue hue problem. Videos and such don't seem to have the tint problem for me.
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Mine color shifts at a slight angle when watching videos. Straight on it is OK.

I don't notice any at all because I don't look at my phone sideways like an idiot.

Mine is incredibly subtle, especially when compared to the pictures and videos I saw prior to getting it three days ago. Additionally, you have to view it from an extreme angle (greater than 45°) before you noticed it, but again, it's subtle. I'd say the effect is more a cooler look to the screen than a blue tint. The blue does eventually appear and become obvious, but it's only when you're looking at it from almost directly from the side.
In my regular use with the phone, I never notice the color shift - even when viewing the mostly white screen in Chrome.

The things nobody tells you about this great phone.

Hi V30 fans.
I got my V30+ 2 weeks ago and love this phone.
However there were a few things nobody ever mentions in their review like the great vibration motor, the sharp edges at the bottom or the plastic feel of the screen.
That's why I made my own consumer review of the V30. You can watch it here:
https://youtu.be/1Eejb64Cwy8
Did you notice similar flaws with your V30 and how much did they bother you? Cheers

I put a case on my phone, so no sharp edges on mine or my wife's.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74959563&postcount=200

None of it bothers me. Other stuff bothers me, not that though.

coldbeverage said:
None of it bothers me. Other stuff bothers me, not that though.
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the weak speaker?

ChazzMatt said:
I put a case on my phone, so no sharp edges on mine or my wife's.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74959563&postcount=200
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it doesn't really bother me it's just someting i noticed when I first touched the device but maybe other V30 phones don't have sharp edges. I use a popsocket.
Just a different question: When I set DND to only priority some app notifications like tinder show up even though I did't activate it. Any thoughts?

What bothers me the most is front facing camera, it's hideous, sooooo crappy, my 3 year old htc m9 had a better camera. Other than that I'm super happy with everything this phone has to offer
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the weak speaker?
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Lol. No! What weak speaker??
The software experience. I'm coming from a 6p. I also don't love the battery and miss an LED notifier.
Otherwise, phone is great.

melihcarter said:
What bothers me the most is front facing camera, it's hideous, sooooo crappy, my 3 year old htc m9 had a better camera. Other than that I'm super happy with everything this phone has to offer
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true however I think in good lighting the FFC is quite decent

coldbeverage said:
Lol. No! What weak speaker??
The software experience. I'm coming from a 6p. I also don't love the battery and miss an LED notifier.
Otherwise, phone is great.
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Yeah Stock android is always the fastest but honestly I don't understand what's bad about the software. I had the S8 and think Samsung UX is way worse.

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That's why I made my own consumer review of the V30. You can watch it here:
https://youtu.be/1Eejb64Cwy8
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A 10+ minute video? Where's the summary? I'm not investing that time, but suspect I could read a transcript of it in 90 seconds.

Wotta said:
A 10+ minute video? Where's the summary? I'm not investing that time, but suspect I could read a transcript of it in 90 seconds.
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I guess you have to watch the video to find out haha

Axkings said:
Yeah Stock android is always the fastest but honestly I don't understand what's bad about the software. I had the S8 and think Samsung UX is way worse.
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It's the constant running of unnecessary things. that's what's annoying.

no LED?
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I also don't love the battery and miss an LED notifier.
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Really no LED? This is going backwards in time, back to my N6 that had to be rooted to get the notification LED working. This actually might be a deal breaker, leaving me with my HTC 10 until something else with a decent DAC comes onto the market.

yep_nexus said:
Really no LED? This is going backwards in time, back to my N6 that had to be rooted to get the notification LED working. This actually might be a deal breaker, leaving me with my HTC 10 until something else with a decent DAC comes onto the market.
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I mean I miss it, but the good outweighs the bad on this phone. It's been less of a huge deal then I thought it would be.

darned missing LED
coldbeverage said:
I mean I miss it, but the good outweighs the bad on this phone. It's been less of a huge deal then I thought it would be.
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Do you use peek? I generally find it distracting, whereas the LED tells me what I was being notified about by color.
Well at least I have a good reason to hold off on upgrading for a few more months now. In any case I'm grateful you mentioned it!

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Do you use peek? I generally find it distracting, whereas the LED tells me what I was being notified about by color.
Well at least I have a good reason to hold off on upgrading for a few more months now. In any case I'm grateful you mentioned it!
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What's peek?
I use the always on display for this phone. Works well.
I'm actually kinda liking not looking at the led notifier all for the time.

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I use the always on display for this phone. Works well.
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That's peek - peeks your notifications. At least on other/older phones, the screen turns on when you get a notification and again when it senses motion. I understand the V30's display just stays on all the time.
I guess I just get distracted easily...

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That's peek - peeks your notifications. At least on other/older phones, the screen turns on when you get a notification and again when it senses motion. I understand the V30's display just stays on all the time.
I guess I just get distracted easily...
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Oh. I had that on my 6P. I like the v30's version better.
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yep_nexus said:
That's peek - peeks your notifications. At least on other/older phones, the screen turns on when you get a notification and again when it senses motion. I understand the V30's display just stays on all the time.
I guess I just get distracted easily...
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I guess the thing is that it was the one thing I was most worried about and, while I miss it, I don't miss it as much as I thought I would.

Alright, first thing I want to clear up is this:
Plastic OLED does NOT mean the display is actually plastic. You CANNOT tell by touching it. You can tell the difference by touching the S8 and the V30? Both are glass! LOL.. Also, AMOLED is what Samsung calls its OLED displays. There's no LG AMOLED panel. So its not "plastic AMOLED", its just p-OLED.
Now, for the most important part about this topic, all recent OLED panels that have any kind of flexibility/curve are ALL plastic substrate OLED panels. Including the AMOLED panels on the recent Samsung S and Note devices. LG calls it pOLED (stupid choice for a name tbh, it causes this exact sort of misunderstanding!). So, the "plastic" just refers to the plastic substrate layer instead of the glass substrate layer used on OLEDs prior to the flexible displays. It's under the glass and digitizer, its part of the actual display panel, so there's no way you can tell the difference by touching or looking at it.
I agree about the sharp edges on the USB port, SIM tray cutout and headphone jack, it's one of the first things I noticed. Not an issue really, but feels like someone forgot to grind the edges down.
The speaker is plenty loud for notifications or the occasional Youtube video for me. I NEVER play music on a phone speaker and if I'm going to watch something, I almost always use my earphones. So, personally, it's a non-issue as long as I don't miss notifications.
Good review overall mate, just make sure you do the necessary research (doesn't take more than a few mins) and avoid making assumptions. Cheers!