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[Q] Should I get one?

Hi,
I'm hoping to buy an android wear smartwatch soon but I'm torn between the Moto 360 and LG Urbane. I'm leaning towards the Moto 360 mainly for the larger screen and wireless charging. But not 100% keen on the bottom bar even though I know it's needed and the design can't work without it but does spoil the design somewhat though some watch faces seem to work well with it.
I generally prefer the design of the 360 over the Urbane, though screen is slightly better resolution on the Urbane thought would prefer the bigger screen. I just want to know what the Moto 360 is like to use daily and if the bottom bar really is much of an issue and would you rather get the Urbane?

mikesaa309 said:
Hi,
I'm hoping to buy an android wear smartwatch soon but I'm torn between the Moto 360 and LG Urbane. I'm leaning towards the Moto 360 mainly for the larger screen and wireless charging. But not 100% keen on the bottom bar even though I know it's needed and the design can't work without it but does spoil the design somewhat though some watch faces seem to work well with it.
I generally prefer the design of the 360 over the Urbane, though screen is slightly better resolution on the Urbane thought would prefer the bigger screen. I just want to know what the Moto 360 is like to use daily and if the bottom bar really is much of an issue and would you rather get the Urbane?
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Not much of an issue to me.. I guess its personal. I realize something that I prefer in the Moto 360. In comparison to the LG watch R, the cards in it tends to get cut off, which it will not happen in moto 360.

Just got a black one yest from a closing radio shack for 125. I already have a pebble steel, but i kinda like the android wear exp.

I got one today. I returned a pebble steel with a broken button. I've had it for a few hours now. I will be returning it this evening and getting another Pebble Steel. If I can convince them to give me a full refund, I might wait for the Pebble Time.
When I brought the 360 home, it was at 12% battery life. This was to be expected. I was able to turn it on for about 30 seconds before auto-shutdown. I set a timer. It took 2 hours and 33 minutes to fully charge. It immediately wanted to upgrade after turning it on and completing setup. (v5.0.2)
It has been 4 hours and I'm down to 27%. Granted I've used the watch more than I normally would as I get used to the menus, but this is not acceptable. If I reduce it to what I consider to be normal use, it will not last the day.
The watch is glitchy and doesn't always register touch. When I am able to navigate to the menu I want, the watch will frequently and randomly vibrate and shut itself off while I'm in the middle of something (the same behavior as it I had covered it with my palm). This is beyond annoying.
About 50% of the time, the watch fails to turn the display on when I lift my arm (the standard lift and rotate gesture shown on the youtube videos). I've put this through extensive testing, and the exact same gesture (what I've found to be the most effective) is only effective about 50% of the time.
The heart rate monitor doesn't work. The strap is on tight and I have actually cleared a part of my arm of hair to test it. I have never been able to get a successful heart rate. I even got my girlfriend to try it. The lights on the back come on, but nobody is home.
Most of the best watch faces and apps require a purchase. I suppose this is by intention (the designers do deserve to profit from their designs). But the real annoyance is that there is a lot of bait-and-charge software too. Software that claims to be free on the Play store, only to find it severely handicapped until you pay via an in-app purchase. AFAIK this is a big kick in the teeth for the Android Wear community and a major drawback. It won't turn away the hardened Android fan-boys who already have invested in the apps they like, but it will turn of a lot of people on the fence. If you are gonna charge for your app, at least be up-front about it. Its shady as hell.
Furthermore, I've detected that there appears to be a lot of very similar watch faces. The comments and reviews indicate that there is rampant design theft and doesn't appear to be any checks in place to prevent this. As such, I have no idea that when I am purchasing a watch app, that I'm giving money to the original artist or a plagiarist.
Not all circular watch faces will render correctly. The "flat tire" utility bay will cut some of them off.
The watch is not visible in direct sunlight. I don't care what the reviews say. I was outside in the bright sunlight today and I could barely read the watch face.
The vibration is not strong enough. When the Pebble Steel vibrated, it was very strong, but not intrusively so. This watch I can hardly even feel when I'm expecting it. Not acceptable.
Step counter doesn't work, but this is to be expected. Even the Pebble Steel was off. I've always maintained that wrist based pedometers are a fad and can't tell what your legs are doing.
Sorry for being critical, but you did presumably ask for honest opinions. I suppose it is subjective, but the 360 isn't for me. It feels very Beta. Maybe the 360 2 will get it right, but this watch is a pass IMO.

I been wanting a new gadget to play with.
I bought someone's NIB black refurb off CL for $120. So far it's been a cool experience. I don't regret my purchase. YMMV it's a personal thing.
I bought a SONY smart watch. Turned it on, could figure out anything, couldn't get it pair. Turn it off, left it in the shopping bag somewhere.

pacificwing said:
Sorry for being critical, but you did presumably ask for honest opinions. I suppose it is subjective, but the 360 isn't for me. It feels very Beta. Maybe the 360 2 will get it right, but this watch is a pass IMO.
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Anyone with a 360 could have told you now was not the time to buy...
Motorola still haven't figured out the 5.1 update, and the previous update seriously hurt battery life and the tilt-to-wake function. Right now we're all in the same boat, just trying to keep the thing working properly till the end of the day...
The original software on the 360 was very responsive and had good battery life so we know it can work, but our only hope now is that Motorola's team of trained chimpanzee coders manages to set it right.

Moto 360 v2 spotted out in the open

It seems (to me) that the release is really close. Flat tire is still present (doesn't matter to me).
I am just afraid that the lug to lug distance is too long, leading to a goofy appearance like the LG G Watch R/Urbane.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/22/motorola-moto-360-sequel-spotted/

I like the original better. It really is a goofy look. But still better than the Sony.

I also like the original design. The original 360 will be my last smart watch, personally smart watches are just a fad, looks nice and all but it really doesn't add anything to the android experience.
In fact when flashing Roms it adds nothing but a long draw out experience , factory reset, resyning the watch, making sure I have enough battery left. It takes longer for me to set up my stupid smart watch than my N6.
Above all I hate when people ask me if it's the icrap watch!

I find it looks exactly like the current gen except for the wake button and lugs. I was expecting Moto to upgrade the watch not re-hash it Apple/Samsung style.
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In fact when flashing Roms it adds nothing but a long draw out experience , factory reset, resyning the watch, making sure I have enough battery left. It takes longer for me to set up my stupid smart watch than my N6.
Above all I hate when people ask me if it's the icrap watch!
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Same.

Adding the lugs was a very bad idea, design wise.
All they had to do was improve the build quality, up the specs, and improve the display. That's literally all they had to do to gave me throwing my money at them, like they were big booty strippers.
It seems as though I'll be sticking with the original for a while longer.
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By adding the lugs I think they wanted to increase acceptance from "regular watch" wearers and increase their customer base. I don't really mind the lugs, but I like the lug-less design a bit more.
The button at 2' o clock is really an improvement, I have big problems with the current button placement when lifting weights and wearing straps and gloves (it gets pushed almost constantly).
What I do hope from Motorola is significantly increased battery life, like tripled or more. And maybe a tiny but powerful speaker

flashallthetime said:
I also like the original design. The original 360 will be my last smart watch, personally smart watches are just a fad, looks nice and all but it really doesn't add anything to the android experience.
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Not really the place for this, but I disagree. I think people want their smartwatches to do too much that the form factor just isn't capable of, but having a notification system on my wrist -- that looks nice -- has changed my phone use a lot. I dig into my pocket WAY less.

As long as it has wireless charging/can use my existing spare 360 docks, claims better battery life and uses an AMOLED screen I'm in. I love the original 360, but the new design is, IMO, just beautiful.

i don't mind the lugs... what moto360 needs is a faster processor and longer battery life
2 different sizes will increase their market share too... the 1st gen moto360 is quite bulky on me

Still got the flat tire.. I'm out this time around.

I think the v2 looks nice with the lugs. But I'll be sporting my v1 since not enough has been improved nor made more appealing.

Motorola Moto 360 (2014) Smart Watch Review

Motorola Moto 360 (2014) Smart Watch Review
First off, yes you read the title correctly. This is a review of the original 360 and not the brand new one. Why you may ask, well in part because I’ve been meaning to write this for ages and partly because there are simply somethings that you do not pick up on if you have used a device for 2 weeks. Something’s you discover only when you have lived with something for a long time and its only then you discover that there are things, had you been aware of, you may not have bothered getting one. Think of it like a marriage. The first while is all fun and laughter but time can breed contempt. So how well has the 360 held up? Should you snap one up cheap and what lessons have we learnt going forward? Let’s see shall we.
First Impressions: Ahhh casting the mind far back into the depths and it arriving in its round box. Ooh so pretty. Inside the watch itself, round too sitting there, it looks bloody good. They have gone out of their way to make you think that the 360 is a watch, not a smart phone or tiny computer, it’s a watch, round and above all a joy for the eyes to behold and well…………… they pretty much nailed it. The 360 was pretty much the unquestioned pretty one among the first wave of Android Wear devices. It is deserved.
Picking it up and it feels so plush and quality. The strap is real dead cow and feels nice to the touch, the facia with its bare metal glass. So much pretty and quality to the touch. I’m not wild about leather straps, I’d rather metal but it seems that Motorola decided that they couldn’t use standard watch strap fittings. I don’t know if it’s just to be awkward but it’s a bloody annoyance. Something that the new one has corrected so clearly Moto picked up on the feedback. Additionally while the leather strap looks nice it has a traditional buckle mechanism, which is not the most straightforward for taking on and off with regularity. This is going to be an issue going forward.
Specifications: Display 1.56” 320 x 290, 205 ppi, Backlit LCD IPS, Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3, Watch Case Dimensions, 46 mm diameter x 11.5 mm high, Weight 60 g (without strap), Battery 320 mAh Wireless charging with charging dock included, Processor TI OMAP™ 3, Memory 4 GB internal storage with 512 MB RAM, Connectivity Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy, Wi-Fi, Sensors Pedometer (9-axis sensor), Ambient light sensor, Optical heart rate monitor (PPG), Water Resistance IP67
It also comes in 2 colours, black or silver and a few strap combos too. Though they are proprietary watch straps which is just odd. I mean why do it, urgh.
Accessories: It came with a charger with a built in USB cable, grr. It also came with its little charging dock and a normal micro USB cable for it. If you want more things, like more straps or screen covers, as ever hit up eBay. Sad that they didn’t use normal watch strap attachments but for a bit more money you can still get a fair assortment of straps.
Fit/Comfort: Perfectly fine. It’s a watch, granted it’s a little big for a watch but not wildly so. On it went, and that was basically it. I’d have preferred a metal strap but not enough to go to the bother of actually changing the strap myself.
Screen: AMOLED lovely gorgeous prettiness. The screen is also mostly round, with what’s been dubbed the “flat tire” at the bottom. When the 360 first came out feelings were mixed, some didn’t mind and that thought that it was a good trade-off for having super thin bezels. It’s a shame both perfectly round and thin bezels can’t be had but……. in use you just pick a facia that doesn’t light up the whole screen. Something that isn’t noticeably missing the bottom and then honestly, I didn’t really miss it. Sure when playing with watch faces, perfectly round ones with something obviously missing was the only time it bothered me. Most of the time in use, I didn’t only not mind but I never really even noticed it was there. You just forget that there is anything missing.
However……………… while the “flat tire” thing didn’t bother me what did was the round screen. Does a round screen look pretty, oh god yes it does. Then it’s an AMOLED which just looks sooooooooooooooo pretty it’s just gorgeous, there is just no way around the fact that the 360 is a lovely, super pretty thing. Thing is, there is a reason why we use rectangular monitors and TV’s. A round screen is just stupid. The UI clearly wants things to be square and text especially gets partially cut off at the top and bottom of the screen where it rounds off. It just hammers the functionality and having a Moto 360 and a Sony Smart Watch 3, the Sony is the one I pick up and want to use every day.
UI: Android Wear is Android Wear. It’s in a reasonably rapid state of development still being only a year old. On the whole it’s good, however there is still the screen, rounded and thus missing bits from the top and bottom, issue. The UI is just simply not made with round screens in mind and thus it’s a pain. However the problem is the round face and not the UI in my opinion. Trying not to turn this into an Android Wear review which is a different article entirely. However expect things like swiping in from the upper left to be regularly, mildly frustrating. It’s not terrible but I did get on my nerves.
Features: So the stand out things on the 360, for me, are the round screen, its stunningly good looks, its heart rate sensor and lastly its Qi charging. Now if you are in the know you’ll notice that those are basically the differentiation points between the 360 and the Sony 3.
So that round screen. See above frankly. Pretty but at the price of usability. It really is very pretty but the cost for me is just too high. However if you kept this maybe just for going out of an evening, when pretty really matters then great. It is such a pretty thing.
Heart rate, well it kinda works but it doesn’t seem to continuously monitor so while it is interesting, if you’re a fitness freak why would you be using this device? It would be like wearing dress evening shoes for running. It’ll do the job but it’s clearly the wrong tool for activity.
Qi. Ahhh you know I love Qi charging and I can tell you that every watch should have it. That you slap it down in its little dock, you can instantly see that it’s charging, that any Qi charger works are all boons. It makes charging the thing every night (and you will be charging it every night) not just into a requirement but it turns into a little clock. It lights up with a clock face in the right orientation. Just perfect for living on a bedside table. All Wear watches should have Qi charging.
Build Quality: On the surface, its perfect. The construction quality is exemplary and it’s simply beauteous to behold to both the eye and the fingers. Note that while perfectly built it doesn’t mean you can’t break it. The watch straps and put under pressure can shatter the back screen. While that’s fairly rare it’s a stupid design flaw not a manufacturing issue.
Usability: Take a wild guess what causes a usability issue? Yep that round screen. While it wasn’t as awkward as the Sun S2 with its bevelled edge making it hard to touch things near the edges. The 360 is clean glass right to the edge so you can access it all perfectly. The issue is that the UI is clearly intended for a rectangular screen. So that isn’t really the 360’s fault per say but you get the idea. It doesn’t make anything impossible to do or really much different but a square screen would just be better.
Battery: Well it has a 360mAh battery. The battery is not the issue though, the issue is the screen. That super pretty AMOLED screen you see, needs to be actively transmitting light to be seen. It is an emissive screen and its battery hungry. Then you have the option to have it auto light up with a flick of the wrist or you can have it run in a dim passive mode most of the time so it’s something you can glance at and see. This however is battery destroying. Leaving the screen on and the battery life just plummets like a lead weight. If you make use of the thing or have the dim always lit up feature in use then expect to start charging the thing halfway through your day. I get that the battery itself isn’t the problem, nor can it really grew much physically but that’s not my problem, it’s for Moto engineers to solve. Even if you use it without passively being on still expect the thing to want charged every single night.
Connectivity: So its main method of world communication is via Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy. That’s great, it pairs to your phone, the phone does the thinking and data transmission all over that power sipping Bluetooth connection. You also have the option to use Wi-Fi. You can use it to keep your phone and watch in communication, via Wi-Fi and the internet. You know, for when your phone is out of Bluetooth range yet you still need to be connected to it, if not physically near it. Why you may wonder, I certainly did. The only scenario I can see it popping up is if at work you go to the bathroom, leaving your phone behind but are waiting for some urgent email. You need that notification that it’s come in. It’s a stretch I know, mostly it’s a stupid feature that just further hammers the battery. Of course you can just leave Wi-Fi off which is what I do.
Value: When it launched it was what, £200. So pretty but yeah that battery life. Now with its successor just announced, this will have practically identical functionality and features. Seriously they changed almost nothing, as I see it they have added a smaller one for girls, moved the button up a bit and altered the strap attachment to that of a normal standard watch. Like every other watch on earth. Price though, well this one’s fallen so I saw somewhere selling it for £113. The New one is retailing for US$300, that’s £200 and that’s before VAT and the obligatory you’re not an American price hike. So that makes the old one probably less than half the price of the new one. To me that seems like pretty reasonable value in comparison to the new one.
Conclusion: So what have I learned from the Moto 360 (2014.) I’ve learned that pretty only gets you so far. The 360 is pretty, it’s the prettiest Android Wear device I have seen and the old one, to me is still better looking than the new one. I get that while I *****ed about the straps being some weird proprietary thing and that it can break the glass back of you put them under pressure but…… damn it’s a good looking device. If you want a Wear watch for going out, to look great in a business meeting to impress someone for whatever reason or situation the old 360 is a damn fine looking machine. Oh and that AMOLED, ooooooh just soooooooooooooooooo much pretty.
However, those good looks have left it compromised. Round screen, they are just awkward and there is a reason we don’t use round screens or round sheets of paper, it’s a pain. That strap, the weird fit attachment. Yeah, so for me that means I’m pretty much not changing the strap. I’d really like one with a clasp rather than a buckle because the battery life is such that you need to take the damn thing off every 20 min to charge it. Granted its little dock is cool but you really need one for the office and one for your bedside. Though in fairness any old Qi charger will do fine. AMOLED, it’s just the wrong tech for a watch. I need always on to glance ta the thing and that while better than lighting up a whole LCD screen it is still too battery heavy.
So should you buy one? Well I’d easily buy this over its successor, its price slash makes it waaaaaaaaay better value and offers practically identical functionality and features. Still you have to want to sacrifice usability to get that super pretty round screen. for me, na I’ll take the Sony but if you want something to visually impress on a budget, the old Moto 360 is pretty (oh so pretty) option that won’t destroy your wallet.

The screen on Moto 360 is LCD and not AMOLED. AMOLED will be better for a watch because it consume less battery for always on screen with mainly dark background.

Moto 360 1nd and 2nd are LCD IPS
LG Watch R / Urbane are P-OLED
Huawei Watch are OMOLED

Huawei watch display comparison

Hey guys, I work for best buy and bought the huawei watch after some reps for the company came in to show us the Mate 7 and the watch. I ordered the mesh band and love the subtlty of the watch, but I noticed the colors are quite muted for an amoled panel compared to the urbane I had. Can anyone compare the two for me to prove I'm not crazy? Like with a Facebook notification comparison? The blues I'm sure are distinctly different between the two panels. Just want to make sure I don't have a faulty panel.

Djjolly037 said:
Hey guys, I work for best buy and bought the huawei watch after some reps for the company came in to show us the Mate 7 and the watch. I ordered the mesh band and love the subtlty of the watch, but I noticed the colors are quite muted for an amoled panel compared to the urbane I had. Can anyone compare the two for me to prove I'm not crazy? Like with a Facebook notification comparison? The blues I'm sure are distinctly different between the two panels. Just want to make sure I don't have a faulty panel.
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Your not crazy. I feel the same way, its also not as bright. Thinking I'm selling my huawei, and going back to my urbane. Not sure why the urbane never got the love it deserved???

suzook said:
Your not crazy. I feel the same way, its also not as bright. Thinking I'm selling my huawei, and going back to my urbane. Not sure why the urbane never got the love it deserved???
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I loved the urbane except for looks, the lugs I felt were manufactured way too thick. I'll probably also return the huawei and test the gear s2s classic. If I don't like that one its back to the urbane.

Djjolly037 said:
I loved the urbane except for looks, the lugs I felt were manufactured way too thick. I'll probably also return the huawei and test the gear s2s classic. If I don't like that one its back to the urbane.
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Disagree about the lugs, looks like most big high end watches today. I thought I would like the higher resolution and .1 in bigger display on the huawei, but I don't. Bummer.

suzook said:
Disagree about the lugs, looks like most big high end watches today. I thought I would like the higher resolution and .1 in bigger display on the huawei, but I don't. Bummer.
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I agree with what you are saying about the looks on the lugs. Me with my ridiculously small guy wrists means it really stands out at least on my arm. Apple watch is like the square version of huawei that's why I like the size so much.

I agree with the screen quality and noticed it right away. (not that you still think you're crazy now, lol) Having said that, I am keeping mine because I like how it looks in dim mode, which is what displays 99% of the time. Yes, I still find my Urbane and LGR better but this is still a very nice screen IMO...just needs a color calibration.

jeffc83 said:
I agree with the screen quality and noticed it right away. (not that you still think you're crazy now, lol) Having said that, I am keeping mine because I like how it looks in dim mode, which is what displays 99% of the time. Yes, I still find my Urbane and LGR better but this is still a very nice screen IMO...just needs a color calibration.
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Im wondering if it has anything to do with the sapphire glass??? Sapphire glass tends to have a slight titn, along with anti reflective properties.

suzook said:
Im wondering if it has anything to do with the sapphire glass??? Sapphire glass tends to have a slight titn, along with anti reflective properties.
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Could be....it's not dramatic but I'll admit, the colors tend to look washed out a little. (scale of 1-10 for color quality, I'd still give it a 7) Regarding the lugs, I agree

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Could be....it's not dramatic but I'll admit, the colors tend to look washed out a little. (scale of 1-10 for color quality, I'd still give it a 7) Regarding the lugs, I agree
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Yup, sending my huawei back to amazon...Bummer thought this thing would be so much better than urbane. Still not sure why the urbane has so much hate?? Its an incredible watch.

suzook said:
Yup, sending my huawei back to amazon...Bummer thought this thing would be so much better than urbane. Still not sure why the urbane has so much hate?? Its an incredible watch.
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Im keeping my LGR and Urbane without a doubt! The Urbane is way too underrated... Why? I don't know.

jeffc83 said:
Im keeping my LGR and Urbane without a doubt! The Urbane is way too underrated... Why? I don't know.
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I liked mind but it looked too much like a smart watch to me it was as wife as my wrist in a noticeable way. The Huawei is about as wide but it looks better. I'm enjoying mine more than I did my LG but that's because of the styling and the crown position is a plus

Pilz said:
I liked mind but it looked too much like a smart watch to me it was as wife as my wrist in a noticeable way. The Huawei is about as wide but it looks better. I'm enjoying mine more than I did my LG but that's because of the styling and the crown position is a plus
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That's what I like about the Huawei. IMO, the Urbane looks like a smartwatch only because the Bezel was just thrown in there, should've been raised! (I still like it) The LGR is much better and looks/feels like a regular watch! Of course to me the winner is the Huawei but the LGR is a close second! I switch watches daily anyway, lol.

Just went back to my urbane, The screen is SO much better. Not sure WTF huawei did with this screen, but its pale colors, and dim brightness are a dealbreaker. Maybe if I didnt own an urbane, I wouldnt know what i am missing.

Same here...wore the Urbane yesterday and truly missed the Huawei. For God sakes, I'm wearing my Seamaster today and STILL miss the Huawei... I must be sick

jeffc83 said:
Same here...wore the Urbane yesterday and truly missed the Huawei. For God sakes, I'm wearing my Seamaster today and STILL miss the Huawei... I must be sick
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HUH?? I DONT miss the huawei.

@suzook LOL, that was a funny friggin' mistake. I read the wrong post and responded out if order. (damn phone scrolled up automatically) My bad man...

This is probably one of the reasons: http://www.reddit.com/r/hwatch/comments/3mcsdf/_/
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I tried to see it and could not. I don't have a camera to take a long exposure with, though, but frankly if that is what it takes to see it, I am not all that concerned.
Edit: referring to the red tint thing.
Edit again: OK, I was able to reproduce the red tint. Don't think its a big deal at this point unless the red sub-pixels burn out.

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I tried to see it and could not. I don't have a camera to take a long exposure with, though, but frankly if that is what it takes to see it, I am not all that concerned.
Edit: referring to the red tint thing.
Edit again: OK, I was able to reproduce the red tint. Don't think its a big deal at this point unless the red sub-pixels burn out.
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I think whether or not it's a big deal is definitely an opinion that changes per user and that's fine. Right now I'm just trying to confirm that is does affect all devices.
Bottom line is it is a defect and not how OLED is supposed to work. It bothers me personally for a few reasons but Huawei has yet to give details on why it is happening and how it can be fixed so I don't know if I should return my watch or keep and hope.

I almost wonder if it is some kind of dumb underflow issue. Or, they intentionally add a little red to the screen to enhance low light visibility, but over simplified the approach a bit too much. Or the driver for the screen leaks some voltage. Who knows at this point.

Throwing in the towel

2nd generation still has the flat tire display, and it is still 11+mm thick. That kills it for me. Any hope on the Android Wear front? I see Samsung has already thrown in the towel, what with its new fancy-looking Tizen watch. Anything on the horizon?

I'm thinking seriously to shift to huawei watch, its really gorgeous !!, but I'm concerned about it coz it doesn't have ambient sensor and the heart rate cannot be tracked daily ( the wrist heart rates are not accurate; so bahhh). So I'm hesitant between moto 360 2nd gen and the huawei watch, for the samsung watch, i didn't like the tizen os (from my perspectives). U feel that its a beta OS.
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I'm torn between 360 2 a hauwei as well. I like the look on the custom 360's more but the better screen is nice on the Hauwei. Going to wait till the 360 2 is out next week for compare
tafo said:
I'm thinking seriously to shift to huawei watch, its really gorgeous !!, but I'm concerned about it coz it doesn't have ambient sensor and the heart rate cannot be tracked daily ( the wrist heart rates are not accurate; so bahhh). So I'm hesitant between moto 360 2nd gen and the huawei watch, for the samsung watch, i didn't like the tizen os (from my perspectives). U feel that its a beta OS.
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FusionTechFTS said:
I'm torn between 360 2 a hauwei as well. I like the look on the custom 360's more but the better screen is nice on the Hauwei. Going to wait till the 360 2 is out next week for compare
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Me too bro, in addition to the market release ,I'm also waiting for some official reviews as c-net, Engadget as well as xda users
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Flat tire is not that big a deal. Lived with it with the 360 v1 and it really never mattered. Went out and grabbed a 42mm Gen2 yesterday, already super happy with it. I'm happy to give your towel a good home.

iggdawg said:
Flat tire is not that big a deal. Lived with it with the 360 v1 and it really never mattered. Went out and grabbed a 42mm Gen2 yesterday, already super happy with it. I'm happy to give your towel a good home.
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Yea u r right, the flat tire is not a big deal.. However I'm more leaning for higher screen resolution (400x400), Amoled screen, and sapphire glass, I'm just concerned about sports sensors, many hauwei watch users reported that HR reading is freezing on several sports apps and its not accurate therefore its worthless for sports tracking. I'm still waiting for official reliable reviews to take the decision.
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tafo said:
Yea u r right, the flat tire is not a big deal.. However I'm more leaning for higher screen resolution (400x400), Amoled screen, and sapphire glass, I'm just concerned about sports sensors, many hauwei watch users reported that HR reading is freezing on several sports apps and its not accurate therefore its worthless for sports tracking. I'm still waiting for official reliable reviews to take the decision.
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The HR sensor on the gen1 360 was definitely crap. But on the gen2 so far it's been pretty great. Reports to Google Fit every 5 mins pretty consistently, even. I haven't gone through the exercise of actually doing point by point comparisons with my FitBit Charge HR for consistency, but its definitely in the right ballpark. When I do side by side comparisons of the 2 devices they're pretty close on both HR and pedometer. Not trying to evangelize, just adding a data point for you since there's not much out there on the gen2 360 yet.

iggdawg said:
The HR sensor on the gen1 360 was definitely crap. But on the gen2 so far it's been pretty great. Reports to Google Fit every 5 mins pretty consistently, even. I haven't gone through the exercise of actually doing point by point comparisons with my FitBit Charge HR for consistency, but its definitely in the right ballpark. When I do side by side comparisons of the 2 devices they're pretty close on both HR and pedometer. Not trying to evangelize, just adding a data point for you since there's not much out there on the gen2 360 yet.
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Man thanks for ur feedback..this will shift my decision towards moto 360 second gen than huawei watch.
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tafo said:
Yea u r right, the flat tire is not a big deal.. However I'm more leaning for higher screen resolution (400x400), Amoled screen, and sapphire glass, I'm just concerned about sports sensors, many hauwei watch users reported that HR reading is freezing on several sports apps and its not accurate therefore its worthless for sports tracking. I'm still waiting for official reliable reviews to take the decision.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in the Huawei's screen. They seem to be plagued with reddish blacks when displaying what's supposed to be pitch black. I have one, and was impressed with it, until I noticed the faint red glow on black watch faces.
I also have a 360 v2 on order. I thought I would return it in favor of the Huawei's supposedly superior screen, but now I'm not so sure. The Moto may not have pure blacks, and has a faint glow in ambient mode...but at least it's SUPPOSED to. The Huawei isn't.
I wasn't even going to open the 360 before returning it, but now I'll be sure to try it out before I make my decision.