hello all, i really need your help.
in August, i was buying a asus zenfone 2 from amazon. i was buying the 64GB that should be with 2.3GHZ and 4G ram. but, i got problem here.
i entered before 4 days to my setting to Hardware Information and there it write to me i got 3G ram and other battery version from my friend that he got also zenfone 2.
i'm realy afraid that i buy something wrong, and i really need your help..
pls help me, ty.
There's a 2gb, 3gb and 4gb version. By the way, Amazon only has 4gb/2gb models so go nuts.
AkiroX said:
There's a 2gb, 3gb and 4gb version. By the way, Amazon only has 4gb/2gb models so go nuts.
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but in setting it write to me 3G, i buy it from amazon.
i downloaded cpu-z and there it write 3904MB ram, but why in my setting it write 3?
and why my battery version is other from my friend battery? (and he write 4G and he buy it too from amazon)
maor23 said:
but in setting it write to me 3G, i buy it from amazon.
i downloaded cpu-z and there it write 3904MB ram, but why in my setting it write 3?
and why my battery version is other from my friend battery? (and he write 4G and he buy it too from amazon)
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Could be that the device isn't true 64-bit (an issue which has come up before), and available memory is hitting the 3GB ceiling (happens with Intel-based 32-bit PC's as well, with the ceiling ranging from 3GB to 3.5GB). CPU-Z is just showing a more accurate picture of total RAM (once some overhead is taken out).
More likely, could also be the way settings displays it, for that firmware version. If you are using different firmwares, the readings can be different.
Also, if your friend bought from Amazon as well, and the battery version is different (eg., mine is Z2C3), it could have been a different batch of phones, yet same model (e.g. different seller on Amazon). in that case, it's inconsequential.
What is your phone model number? Mine reads ASUS_Z00AD (I have the 2GB model).
3904mb is near of 4gb.
You hardly (or can't) find a phone that give you exactly RAM amount in spec.
Always below 100-200mb for GPU mem or something.
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Could be that the device isn't true 64-bit (an issue which has come up before), and available memory is hitting the 3GB ceiling (happens with Intel-based 32-bit PC's as well, with the ceiling ranging from 3GB to 3.5GB). CPU-Z is just showing a more accurate picture of total RAM (once some overhead is taken out).
More likely, could also be the way settings displays it, for that firmware version. If you are using different firmwares, the readings can be different.
Also, if your friend bought from Amazon as well, and the battery version is different (eg., mine is Z2C3), it could have been a different batch of phones, yet same model (e.g. different seller on Amazon). in that case, it's inconsequential.
What is your phone model number? Mine reads ASUS_Z00AD (I have the 2GB model).
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my model is ASUSS_Z00AD too, but i bought the 64GB and 4GB ram phone... i got faked?
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3904mb is near of 4gb.
You hardly (or can't) find a phone that give you exactly RAM amount in spec.
Always below 100-200mb for GPU mem or something.
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my model is ASUSS_Z00AD too, but i bought the 64GB and 4GB ram phone... i got faked?
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Nope, just making sure you didn't have the Laser.
Z00A(D) is made up of several variants, varying in CPU Speed (1.8Ghz/2.3Ghz), RAM (2GB/3GB/4GB), and storage (16GB/32GB/64GB, I hear that 128GB also exists).
Based on your CPU-Z (and System settings). you have the 2.3GHz/4GB/64GB model. So enjoy, and don't worry about the settings glitch!
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Nope, just making sure you didn't have the Laser.
Z00A(D) is made up of several variants, varying in CPU Speed (1.8Ghz/2.3Ghz), RAM (2GB/3GB/4GB), and storage (16GB/32GB/64GB, I hear that 128GB also exists).
Based on your CPU-Z (and System settings). you have the 2.3GHz/4GB/64GB model. So enjoy, and don't worry about the settings glitch!
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i must worried because my battery is lame, and i understand all my friends that bought from the same store i bought, they got on setting 4G ram and cpu-z write them they got 4096MB ram, i got in setting 3G and cpu-z 3904MB
maor23 said:
i must worried because my battery is lame, and i understand all my friends that bought from the same store i bought, they got on setting 4G ram and cpu-z write them they got 4096MB ram, i got in setting 3G and cpu-z 3904MB
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Which is caused by firmware difference or they were looking at a different value in CPU-Z. There is no such thing as RAM manufactured for 3904MB. It's always as powers of 2 (with sometimes a 3 thrown in. e.g. 3072MB - that is 3GB of RAM). The reason you are getting 3904MB and 3GB is because of overhead (e.g GPU). That stuff reserves memory and takes it out of the equation (My old phone has 768MB RAM, but settings always lists 518MB due to hardware and kernel's overhead). Your firmware settings is then glitching and rounding down.
If you use a different firmware version than currently (i.e. same version as your friend), you will get 4GB listed instead. If the situation still concerns you, make sure you are running the latest update.
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Hey guys
I am considering getting the G3 and theres about £50 difference between 32 and 16gb version, is the 3gb/32gb actually worth it? Seen some tests and the difference was hardly noticable...anybody has any experience with both versions and could compare?
Thanks!
I don't have the link handy but a review was done with both versions, and the benchmarks were nearly the same. With microsd support, I'd see no reason just for another 1gb of ram personally.
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Every android phone I've ever had from 256kb to 2gb has eventually needed more memory. More memory means you can run more, cache more and be future proof. If your only keeping the phone for a year, then 2gb will probably be fine, if keeping for 2 years then I would get the 3gb version
Not exactly sure what 50 euros is in usd but if it's any where from 50-100 it's well worth it imo, especially since you get a sdcard & ram upgrade.
2gb ram has been the flagship standard for a while now, my HTC one gets pretty close to full ram usage at some points. More ram guarantees smooth performance for heavy usage as well as future proof specs, and don't forget the g3 has that qhd resolution and once higher (than 1080p) resolution videos become more common you'll be glad you went with the extra ram.
well the 16gb version, not sure what batch is it and where is it imported from(assuming Korea) goes for 1950 PLN = 373.8150 GBP according to google while the 32gb version which is imported from Korea goes for 2250 PLN = 431.3250 GBP so yeah not a big difference but still.
The thing is that I dont really play games on a mobile, most of the time I would just use it for browsing, mail, facebook, gps/maps, apps and camera damn, decisions decisions...
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well the 16gb version, not sure what batch is it and where is it imported from(assuming Korea) goes for 1950 PLN = 373.8150 GBP according to google while the 32gb version which is imported from Korea goes for 2250 PLN = 431.3250 GBP so yeah not a big difference but still.
The thing is that I dont really play games on a mobile, most of the time I would just use it for browsing, mail, facebook, gps/maps, apps and camera damn, decisions decisions...
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Well i never had the choice... Only 16gb was available in UK. I would defo spend another 50 quid to get extra storage... You're planning to spend a lot of money already so extra 300pln is not that bad isn't?
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Personally I would just save the money and buy the 16gb and get a massive SD Card instead. I doubt there is any noticeable difference in performance unless you have a gizillion apps open at the same time. In fact I remember reading an article where an LG employee says the phone is optimised to run on 2GB RAM.
The only reason I can think of to get the 32GB version is if you do not plan on getting an SD Card, then the extra storage is definately worth it. And maybe resale value will be higher...
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Personally I would just save the money and buy the 16gb and get a massive SD Card instead. I doubt there is any noticeable difference in performance unless you have a gizillion apps open at the same time. In fact I remember reading an article where an LG employee says the phone is optimised to run on 2GB RAM.
The only reason I can think of to get the 32GB version is if you do not plan on getting an SD Card, then the extra storage is definately worth it. And maybe resale value will be higher...
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I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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Unless you root...
But even so, internal storage is better than SD card for many reason (ease of use, speed)
I picked the 32GB from Germany, very happy I did so.
Get the one with 3gb ram, I can't believe they are still releasing phones with 2gb ram.
I have a Z1 and since I started using a custom launcher whenever I have some apps open and press the home button the homescreen redraws and it's not nearly as quick as before.
Also some apps don't stay cached when I reopen them.
The G3 with its massive resolution should eat even more ram.
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I've just read a review here http://pclab.pl/art58419-7.html where they've tested the 2gb version and said it lags a lot, the CPU and GPU gets hot a lot, that it would be better if there was full HD than QHD, that the screen dims weirdly and that the screen gets this weird sharpening effect....
christ I dont know what to do :/ z2 is nice but it has a lot of issues, one's camera isnt good enough these days, g3 3gb is probably most future proof but the more I read about it the more doubts I get...
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I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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True, guess it depends on what you use your phone for. I don't do any gaming so the app data space isn't that large.
If the difference in price is ok then it makes sense to get the 32GB I suppose. Here in Singapore, only the 32GB version is available and only S$755 sim-free which is relatively cheap for a new flagship phone.
I'm still deciding whether to get this or the G2 which is only S$520 now!
I'm planning to buy the 32gb version. What I like to know is if the custom roms will be different or will they all be suitable for this version?
G3 the 16 or 32 GB
cez10 said:
Hey guys
I am considering getting the G3 and theres about £50 difference between 32 and 16gb version, is the 3gb/32gb actually worth it? Seen some tests and the difference was hardly noticable...anybody has any experience with both versions and could compare?
Thanks!
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Hi,
I have got both phones at the moment (Model D855) and I would strongly suggest you spend the the extra few bucks on tthe 32GB phone. Not as much for the ROM but for the RAM. Today I have installed the same apps on both phobes after rooting them and installing TWRP recovery and the difference is very obvious especially when having several apps open in the background. Although many phones could do perefctly with the amount of RAM the 16 GB model offers, I think there is a difference in this phonbes screen specs. This fabulous screen asks a lot of capacity which I think is the reason the 16 GB version gets very leggy. It's better if you reboot every now and then but I recon you'd get very anoyed at having to do that 3 times a day.
The price difference is big enough to go for the 16 GB version. You'll most prbably regret in a few months.
I have the 2 GB version no problem
Screen is good no heating problems
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I have the 16g d855 my phone now runs at 300mb free ram i bought it for 380 euro and the 32gb was for 500+ so the difference was big. So if you have that money go for 32 a test on youtube on benchmarking both versions shows that 32gb is 5-7% faster and the results proofs that.
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Hi all
Wondering if there is an actual noticeable difference in day to day usage between the two models? I know the bench test show marginal performance improvements for the 32GB over the 16GB model but would this be seen in every day use?
Reason I ask is that I may be swapping a 16GB model for a 32GB model but this comes with it's downsides so wondering if it's even worth it....
Forgot to say that I do know that the 32GB model also has the 3GB RAM
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Hi all
Wondering if there is an actual noticeable difference in day to day usage between the two models? I know the bench test show marginal performance improvements for the 32GB over the 16GB model but would this be seen in every day use?
Reason I ask is that I may be swapping a 16GB model for a 32GB model but this comes with it's downsides so wondering if it's even worth it....
Forgot to say that I do know that the 32GB model also has the 3GB RAM
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i would say yes.
i have a 2gb one and my oncle a 3gb ram. my home screen always refresh when i exit a app.
and his apps open some how faster (cause they are in cache of the ram) so i would say yes. its better even in every day usage. opening apps. and switching
Hmmmm that's good to hear then. Well I have the 2gb model right now and have the 3gb one coming tomorrow... It's coming from Hong Kong though so slightly worried it will be fake!
It doesn't matter in everyday use at all...
Still, you can read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783716
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It doesn't matter in everyday use at all...
Still, you can read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783716
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Cheers, have seen that video before but still didn't help me . It won't cost me anything extra swapping to the 32GB model but it is a HK model so I'm a bit warey about it breaking or being fake etc.
It matters mate... Extra 1gb makes the difference aside from the additional storage...
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It matters mate... Extra 1gb makes the difference aside from the additional storage...
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This is interesting to know.. How exactly this 1gb makes the difference in everyday use?
Have you heard that anybody raised an issue with shortage of RAM while using G3 with KitKat or Lollipop in normal conditions?
3gb is snappier than than 2gb variant... Based on my own experience... As is without tweaks... ?
Don't no about 16gb but my 32gb 3gb ramz the dog
My 16 gb version is snappy as hell, it depends on the user too and how you tweak it.
I traded my 3gb Note 3 for the 2gb G3....I kinda regret it now because my Note 3 was nice and snappy but with the G3 I notice quite a lot of lag
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I traded my 3gb Note 3 for the 2gb G3....I kinda regret it now because my Note 3 was nice and snappy but with the G3 I notice quite a lot of lag
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Amount of RAM does not have anything with lag that you have on G3. 3GB version also have that lag sometimes.
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I have a highly debloated 3gb version, with normal running i have about 500MB free ram but this can drop down to 400MB. If you only have a 2GB phone, it would be 500MB short of ram, even more on a stock rom, meaning apps get stopped to make room for new app to start up. Extra ram means more file data is stored in cache. My phone never lags
I've had a 1st gen Moto G for a while and I have up to ~£250 to spend. I was settled on a OPO or an LG G3 (16GB/2GB RAM) since they're both around £240 now. After a bit more reading I think I'd prefer a Zenfone 2, but I'm not sure which models I should go for, or which I can use in the UK.
I usually just buy from Amazon but have noticed a lot of sites I've never seen before offering various models at much cheaper prices, like eglobal central. The confusion comes with the model variants and which is best. I want to make sure I get a model with a 1080p screen, which appears to be the ZE551ML. There appears to be a few different models with sometimes not-so-clear specs. There is this one, but it states a 1.8GHz CPU, which indicates that it's the 2GB RAM model, but states that it's 4GB. Also, this one, that states the same, i.e 1.8GHz with 4GB RAM.
Is there a model with 2.3GHz/4GB RAM with only 16/32GB storage? Is there such a model with 1.8GHz/4GB RAM, or are these sites citing wrong specs? Is it worth the extra money to go for the 2.3GHz model over the 1.8, or 4GB RAM over 2GB? Where is the best place to buy from since the Amazon sellers seem to be charging £70-80 more for the same models as those other smaller sites?
I'm not worried about the storage since 16/32GB is plenty, and the phone allows for a memory card. I'm not really a phone gamer, so I'm not hugely worried about GFX performance. Not really worried about the camera either since I only rarely take pics and almost never video. I just want a 5.5 inch screen with decent specs and the Zenfone seems to offer the best price/spec ratio for me. Provided I can root the phone then I'm happy enough. I can get to custom ROMs later.
Cheers.
FWIW, the one I got has the 1.8 GHz CPU, 4 GB of RAM and 32 GB of storage. So such a variant definitely does exist. It's the WW (international) version, and came with a UK type plug on the charger.
I have just received the 1.8gh variant with 4g of ram and 32gb storage I bought mine from eglobal for £181 delivery was 3days.
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buge boyo said:
I have just received the 1.8gh variant with 4g of ram and 32gb storage I bought mine from eglobal for £181 delivery was 3days.
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I just ordered the same model (silver) from the same place about 5 minutes ago. For the size/spec it's a steal at that price.
It should be in your hands by Thursday.
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You should've got the 4Gb/64Gb model. It uses the Z3580 CPU at 2.3Ghz instead of the Z3560 at 1.8Ghz.
Slightly faster but around 7000 points difference on Antutu (if you are interested in that)...
It also comes with the speedy charger which the 1.8Ghz version doesn't...
They both come with the same speed charger the only difference is in the CPU clock speed and storage amount. Besides with custom kernels you can increase the clock speed.
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They both come with the same speed charger the only difference is in the CPU clock speed and storage amount. Besides with custom kernels you can increase the clock speed.
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Well nope, the lower-clocked version is delivered with a plain charger, and only the 2.4 GHz version comes with a Quick Charge one. At least that's the case for the vendors I checked.
And I wouldn't hold my breath for custom kernels, there are none at present.
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Well nope, the lower-clocked version is delivered with a plain charger, and only the 2.4 GHz version comes with a Quick Charge one. At least that's the case for the vendors I checked.
And I wouldn't hold my breath for custom kernels, there are none at present.
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From some of the video reviews I've seen, they state that the 1.8GHz model (regardless of RAM/storage and including the ZE550ML) all lack the quick-charge charger.
Hi, I would like to buy the cheap version (2GB RAM 16GB ROM) but I am afraid not to have a community to help me to "improve" it.
What I need is basically some future update and very important be able to root it.
What do u suggest?
There isn't one
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There isn't one
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Why?
PS: I had to edit it cuz it missed "rooted".
GSM-Arena says the minimum RAM is 3 GB and the minimum storage is 32 GB, max is 4 GB and 128 GB and that's what I relied on. But then somewhere else I saw the specs you mentioned. I know Android hasn't used SD card memory well in the past. Music and apps and DRM-protected downloads were tied to internal memory and so 32 GB of internal memory was a minimum for me. But since Marshmallow those limits on SD storage are (supposedly) lifted and/or debugged.
So, I dunno. Try it, buying from a place that allows returns, and post what happens.
(GSM-Arena Xiaomi Mi Max page: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php)
e753 said:
Hi, I would like to buy the cheap version (2GB RAM 16GB ROM) but I am afraid not to have a community to help me to "improve" it.
What I need is basically some future update and very important be able to root it.
What do u suggest?
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I have the 2gb version. But I don't understand your question.
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I have the 2gb version. But I don't understand your question.
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Sorry for my english!
I saw a lot of post about Helium and Hydrogen but no one for the 2GB version. I am afraid to buy it and not be able to find a way to root it or flash a new rom (eg Cyanogen)...
e753 said:
Sorry for my english!
I saw a lot of post about Helium and Hydrogen but no one for the 2GB version. I am afraid to buy it and not be able to find a way to root it or flash a new rom (eg Cyanogen)...
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I'm not going to root mines any. But I haven't found any support forums. But I'm sure it'll happen
I would go with the 32 GB version as youâ??ll get 1 extra gig of ram. Miui used quite a bit of it. I run mi max with miui 8 beta. Phone has been on for about a day. And I've got about 600 GB of ram free. I don't really use ram cleaner as it can mess with Androids memory managment. With two gigs of ram I think there will be more apps that get purged from memory i.e worse multitasking. Also the extra storage is kind of sweet.
I would not go for the snapdragon 652. Even though its a beast. Remember that its a bigLittle SoC. So during normal operation the 4x a53 cores will do most of the work. The two extra a72 cores wont really make that much of a difference. Games are still single threaded.. The only motivation is the 4gb of ram and the bigger e-penis.
So I pre-ordered the 512GB grey model assuming I would get 16GB ram however I read somewhere that the Exynos models would be limited to 12GB ram
Decided to contact Samsung direct and just had them confirm on live chat that UK 512GB models will only have 12GB ram. I can only assume this will be the same for all Exynos models
I myself am extremely disappointed not only because it would have been nice to have the 16GB ram and the bragging rights laugh but disappointed with Samsung for not specifying this and not having the specs listed clearly for this model
Be interested to hear others thoughts and if anyone else has had this confirmation and if anyone else will be changing their pre-order as I am because of this...
Just been into Samsung experience store and confirmed the 512GB ultra WILL have 16GB ram.
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Just been into Samsung experience store and confirmed the 512GB ultra WILL have 16GB ram.
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Which one did you go into? Even the specs listed for the new Exynos processor say it can only handle 12gb...
If it does come with 16gb great! But so much conflicting info but evidence is pointing to 12gb...
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honestly you wont need 16GB of RAM - dont even know why they bothered with it!!
as for storage - get 1TB sd for £200 and you will be safe
Was also advised S20 Ultra 512GB has now sold out for release day allocation.
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honestly you wont need 16GB of RAM - dont even know why they bothered with it!!
as for storage - get 1TB sd for £200 and you will be safe
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More ram can hold more apps in the ram. They are also allowing a new app lock so that apps stay in ram all the time. As for storage, I'd rather have more internal than external (for loading purposes and other SD card issues).
yes i get it but what apps are you going to have open in the background that is going to eat thru 10 GB of ram
my laptop has 12GB ram and can run super intensive tasks
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yes i get it but what apps are you going to have open in the background that is going to eat thru 10 GB of ram
my laptop has 12GB ram and can run super intensive tasks
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Music app, any game I was playing and had to drop asap, Google maps if I have to make a call or something.
Seems the information on this is very sparse and not specific, I've had many employees from Samsung tell me it comes with 12gb and 16gb, on the phone to them now trying to get clarification but what gives me the doubt is that the only spec sheet I've found for the Exynos 990 (we always get Exynos in the UK) says it's limited to 12gb ram
After a lengthy conversation I was assured the S20 Ultra 512GB comes with the Exynos 990 and 16GB ram
Looks like we will have to wait and see for release day to see if this is correct...
i found this year specs of the phone, when ordering - to be quite limited - it doesnt say anything about 16gb of ram when ordering on the sam website - just colour, model, 4/5g and capacity
honestly looking at my order details it doesnt even say what phone it is - just that i paid 1999+£5 delivery and the order number/shipping address and payment details
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i found this year specs of the phone, when ordering - to be quite limited - it doesnt say anything about 16gb of ram when ordering on the sam website - just colour, model, 4/5g and capacity
honestly looking at my order details it doesnt even say what phone it is - just that i paid 1999+£5 delivery and the order number/shipping address and payment details
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My point exactly and that's what's led to the confusion, even Samsung's staff are unsure
Let's wait n see
Pretty sure they would be I trouble for misseling.
https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-s20/
Clearly states 12/16GB of RAM
where are u seeing that
i can only see this
Halfway Down the page, under performance
https://s.amsu.ng/Ay7YSmzpPAWN
hmm you must be seeing a different page - i have no performance - just those options shown in the screenshot
the ultra should have 16gb of ram, i think the other models may only get 12.
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yes i get it but what apps are you going to have open in the background that is going to eat thru 10 GB of ram
my laptop has 12GB ram and can run super intensive tasks
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Laptops aren't phones and phones aren't laptops, comparing the amount of RAM better the two is as dumb as comparing processor speed.
@_Dennis_ is it so hard to have a clean polite conversation, that there always needs to be someone rude to post replies for the sake of offending someone
everyone participates here with their opinions, there is no good or bad, dumb or smart - they could be correct or incorrect and if they are incorrect please by all means - explain what is incorrect and how is correct, with actual information - dont just bash right and left with no actual contribution
people like you is what makes internet and this world a sadder place
be respectful and be human - no matter where online or in real life - and if you dont have anything good to say - DONT SAY ANYTHING save everyone the time of reading bullying replies