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Hi all,
I'm planning to start installing custom ROM's and haven't yet installed CWM. I don't plan on changing the kernal, as I hear issues about battery drain etc, and I just wanted to know which Custom ROM's I can use without flashing anything extra, as in just going on CWM, and installing a .zip?
Thanks in advance!
Anyone? :/
Under the heading stock based ROMs from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294129
Its not a complete list and you should still always read to make sure you don't need to flash a kernel along with it. If you flash a ROM that requires a custom kernel on locked bootloader you will brick your phone, so read carefully.
OK guys, I just want some clear answers on this. I've done a bit of forum searching but not entirely sure.
As I understand it, I can:
1: Unlock a branded vodafone UK phone with HTCdev.com
2: In doing this, it will 'delete' the CID.
3: Download the most recent stock unbranded OTA file from the forums.
4: Run the OTA instructions through computer installation.
Note: This should work as the CID is deleted?
5: Once this is done, I have suddenly have a stock official rom?
6: What would now happen when the next official OTA is due?
7: What rom would boot if I then did a full factory reset?
8: Because I did all of this with S ON, I can't go back to voda crapware so my warranty is basically void?
If any of you could give me clarity on the questions and above points, that would be awesome.
You can't bebranded without Super CID - having no CID means no update will run
OTA updates have the pre-requisite version in the name, e.g.
OTA_ENDEAVOR_U_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.9-1.26.401.2_release_256505w0tk6eiq8g74y4vb.zip
This means you HAVE to be on 1.26.401.2 to update to 1.28.401.9
To debrand you need to flash an unbranded RUU, which you cannot do at this time. All you can do is flash a 'stock' custom ROM
In that case, are there any stock 'custom' roms out there that can:
1: be reverted back to bloatware stock rom for warranty purposes
2: if and when official stock OTA are available, they can be downloaded and installed on top of the stock custom rom?
EmperorK said:
In that case, are there any stock 'custom' roms out there that can:
1: be reverted back to bloatware stock rom for warranty purposes
2: if and when official stock OTA are available, they can be downloaded and installed on top of the stock custom rom?
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The closest custom ROM to stock is the Android Revolution HD ROMs. If you do a nandroid backup as soon as you flash the custom recovery you can easily go back to stock by restoring your backup and flashing the stock recovery and then re-locking the phone.
How do I do a nandroid backup? I take it the backup is stored on my computer or something?
When you say custom recovery, do you mean the custom rom?
And lastly, when official OTA updates are released and the maker of arhd is kind enough to implement the changes into their rom, can this be installed as an update or does it require wiping the phone and installing a new arhd rom all over again?
Ps guys, thanks for all the help so far. I'm slowly starting to understand...
EmperorK said:
How do I do a nandroid backup? I take it the backup is stored on my computer or something?
When you say custom recovery, do you mean the custom rom?
And lastly, when official OTA updates are released and the maker of arhd is kind enough to implement the changes into their rom, can this be installed as an update or does it require wiping the phone and installing a new arhd rom all over again?
Ps guys, thanks for all the help so far. I'm slowly starting to understand...
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A nandroid backup is the backup you make when you root your phone and flash a custom recovery on it.
A custom recovery is not a custom ROM. A custom recovery is like a ms dos program for your phone. It is used to flash a custom ROM or backup your ROM (nandroid backup)
The latest ARHD ROM is based on the latest 1.28.401 base so all the updates and tweaks on the 1.28.401 is already there but optimized more.
EmperorK said:
How do I do a nandroid backup? I take it the backup is stored on my computer or something?
When you say custom recovery, do you mean the custom rom?
And lastly, when official OTA updates are released and the maker of arhd is kind enough to implement the changes into their rom, can this be installed as an update or does it require wiping the phone and installing a new arhd rom all over again?
Ps guys, thanks for all the help so far. I'm slowly starting to understand...
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Nandroid backup: A backup taken from ClockworkMod recovery using the UI on the phone. The backup is saved on the sdcard. It's good practice to keep a backup of it on the computer as well.
Custom recovery: The recovery is not the same as the "ROM". The recovery is a small partition on the device that you can boot into. From the recovery you can make changes to the main system, "ROM".
Updates: When updates are issued you should never use the OTA update. It may cause alot of problems. ROM builders/chefs are usually very quick to fetch an OTA update and implement it in their ROM so one usually ends up with the update quicker then if one would have waited for the OTA. When installing a smaller update, a wipe is often not required. It is always recommended to take new nandroid backups before installing updates though in case something goes wrong.
Stock ROM is here
1) does flashing a custom recovery on the nexus prevent OTA updates from google. I know it did for my HTC sensation XE, but nexus devices are designed for unlocking & stuff
2) if it does prevent OTA, can anyone link me to the latest & best custom recovery anyway. I know i can simply use the "fastboot boot <recoveryimagefilename>" command to boot into custom recovery without flashing it
3) if i were to flash it anyway, can i manually flash OTA's then. According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380113 you need stock recovery to flash OTA's, then what's the point of custom recovery (other than nandroid backups) if ya can't flash stock OTA's
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1) does flashing a custom recovery on the nexus prevent OTA updates from google. I know it did for my HTC sensation XE, but nexus devices are designed for unlocking & stuff
2) if it does prevent OTA, can anyone link me to the latest & best custom recovery anyway. I know i can simply use the "fastboot boot <recoveryimagefilename>" command to boot into custom recovery without flashing it
3) if i were to flash it anyway, can i manually flash OTA's then. According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380113 you need stock recovery to flash OTA's, then what's the point of custom recovery (other than nandroid backups) if ya can't flash stock OTA's
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1) yes
2) I would use this http://www.wugfresh.com makes every thing easy as pie. I would recommend twrp (team win recovery project) wugs fresh will automatically download, and install the latest version for you
3) no you can't flash "factory images" but if you want you can run flash-all.bat with the SDK tools thru ADB, but that would replace your recovery with the sock one, and return you tablet to pure stock, with whatever android version you downloaded from Google. But the good folks here on xda will create an update .zip you can flash thru your custom recovery, before the ota is even available. As far as why have a custom recovery in the first place, you can flash custom software (ROM's, kernels, mods) that will have more features than all the ota's will have in 1000 years. :victory: Examples, Multi window, overclocking, undervolting, change the color of everything (lol everything) shortcuts every where, (EVERYWHERE, without getting in the way, I know, how, but they do it, lol) battery meter mods, themes,(change the whole GUI), expanded desktop, native screen recording, the list goes on on and on...
Anyway, no don't accept an ota while your running a custom recovery, it will probably soft brick you, but the features you will gain from custom ROM's/ kernel's will vastly outweigh the features you will ever receive from an ota (and almost all custom ROM's will be based off of the latest android version anyway, so all the latest android features will be baked in) so ya IMO you should go for it. :highfive:
your 2) does not answer the question. Im not asking how to root, i've already done that
3) is wrong again. After removing a pinyin keyboard on 4.3 the 4.4 OTA wouldn't work. so YES i COULD flash a factory image. But then again. That answer is again besides the question. I'm not asking to flash a factory image. I'm asking if using a custom recovery would make it possible to still manually flash OTA's. I'm not gonna flash custom rom on the nexus either. I love the stock rom, smooth and fast but that's again besides the question
Ch3vr0n said:
1) does flashing a custom recovery on the nexus prevent OTA updates from google. I know it did for my HTC sensation XE, but nexus devices are designed for unlocking & stuff
2) if it does prevent OTA, can anyone link me to the latest & best custom recovery anyway. I know i can simply use the "fastboot boot <recoveryimagefilename>" command to boot into custom recovery without flashing it
3) if i were to flash it anyway, can i manually flash OTA's then. According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380113 you need stock recovery to flash OTA's, then what's the point of custom recovery (other than nandroid backups) if ya can't flash stock OTA's
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thisguysayswht said:
1) yes
2) I would use this http://www.wugfresh.com makes every thing easy as pie. I would recommend twrp (team win recovery project) wugs fresh will automatically download, and install the latest version for you
3) no you can't flash "factory images" but if you want you can run flash-all.bat with the SDK tools thru ADB, but that would replace your recovery with the sock one, and return you tablet to pure stock, with whatever android version you downloaded from Google. But the good folks here on xda will create an update .zip you can flash thru your custom recovery, before the ota is even available. As far as why have a custom recovery in the first place, you can flash custom software (ROM's, kernels, mods) that will have more features than all the ota's will have in 1000 years. :victory: Examples, Multi window, overclocking, undervolting, change the color of everything (lol everything) shortcuts every where, (EVERYWHERE, without getting in the way, I know, how, but they do it, lol) battery meter mods, themes,(change the whole GUI), expanded desktop, native screen recording, the list goes on on and on...
Anyway, no don't accept an ota while your running a custom recovery, it will probably soft brick you, but the features you will gain from custom ROM's/ kernel's will vastly outweigh the features you will ever receive from an ota (and almost all custom ROM's will be based off of the latest android version anyway, so all the latest android features will be baked in) so ya IMO you should go for it. :highfive:
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Ch3vr0n said:
your 2) does not answer the question. Im not asking how to root, i've already done that
3) is wrong again. After removing a pinyin keyboard on 4.3 the 4.4 OTA wouldn't work. so YES i COULD flash a factory image. But then again. That answer is again besides the question. I'm not asking to flash a factory image. I'm asking if using a custom recovery would make it possible to still manually flash OTA's. I'm not gonna flash custom rom on the nexus either. I love the stock rom, smooth and fast but that's again besides the question
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2)I believe you asked what the "latest and best" custom recovery would be. (matter of opinion) I was simply trying to simplify your quest, by linking you to a toolkit that will do it for you.( wugfresh will install the latest version of twrp.. It will do much more than root your nexus... if you explore it) the check box under root. ( I personally don't use it, I prefer to do things the hard way)
3) I agree the stock ROM is "super smooth, and fast", (stable) that's why I personally use the xposed framework, with the stock ROM (updated to 4.4 krt16s, with the elementalX kernel 2.2)... And yes rooting, AND removing a system app (pinyin keyboard), will make an ota fail... Don't think you asked that... I don't know about flashing an ota thru a custom recovery, never done it, but it definitely sounds like a sketch idea to me. IDK why you wouldn't just flash an update.zip. ( pretty much the same as an ota...) If you are running a custom recovery... And if you really want that stock ota... flash-all.bat is your best friend...
From some guy who's been flashin stuff, and things, since his og galaxy nexus... Owned every nexus device since then, and haven't bricked nothing yet.
Just trying to help.
Peace
Hi,
I bought a locked Samsung S3 (At&t). It is rooted with cyanogenMod 10.2 Android 4.3.1. All i was trying to do is unlock it so i can use it with other carrier. So i bought the unlock codes for 30 bucks but later i found out that the unlock codes only work with Stock rom. I am not an expert at this Root, Custom Rom...stuff, but not idiot either i can follow step by step directions if anyone knows how to make this work. I would like to use the custom rom though, so do i have to recover in stock rom, unlock the phone using the code and than install the custom rom again?
Plz help
Hi!
zeshanlahoria said:
[...] do i have to recover in stock rom, unlock the phone using the code and than install the custom rom again?
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Yes, that is what you will need to do. As you can only enter an unlock code on a stock ROM (or one of the numerous custom ROM based on the stock one), you won't be able to make it work on CyanogenMod or any AOSP derivatives. You will have to revert back to stock, then (if you want to try a cutom ROM) install another custom ROM of your choice, be it CM or anything else.
Though if you currently have CM installed in your device, you most certainly already have a custom recovery (TWRP, CWM, PhilZ Touch...), which make it even easier for you to flash ROMs at your will -- the step of installing a custom recovery is already done. So browse the AT&T SIII Android Development forum, choose a stock-based ROM, install it -- pay close attention to the installation instructions in the ROM's thread --, unlock your phone; then repeat those steps to install another ROM if you want to.
Alexandre-P said:
Hi!
Yes, that is what you will need to do. As you can only enter an unlock code on a stock ROM (or one of the numerous custom ROM based on the stock one), you won't be able to make it work on CyanogenMod or any AOSP derivatives. You will have to revert back to stock, then (if you want to try a cutom ROM) install another custom ROM of your choice, be it CM or anything else.
Though if you currently have CM installed in your device, you most certainly already have a custom recovery (TWRP, CWM, PhilZ Touch...), which make it even easier for you to flash ROMs at your will -- the step of installing a custom recovery is already done. So browse the AT&T SIII Android Development forum, choose a stock-based ROM, install it -- pay close attention to the installation instructions in the ROM's thread --, unlock your phone; then repeat those steps to install another ROM if you want to.
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Could you please direct me to how to unroot? I am able to go into the recovery mode but not really sure how to go on from there. I appreciate the help.
zeshanlahoria said:
Could you please direct me to how to unroot? I am able to go into the recovery mode but not really sure how to go on from there. I appreciate the help.
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Before you flash a stock ROM, you would need to check what bootloader your phone is currently on as flashing the wrong one could cause your phone to brick or become unusable. Custom ROMs like the CM you currently have do not have their own bootloaders but rely on manufacturer's bootloader to run. The bootloader, quite simply, is a small application that loads the operating system and all other applications & systems required for the phone to run once it is powered on. Therefore, with a faulty bootloader, your phone can not gather all the resources required to power on successfully. If your phone is running on the 4.3 bootloader which would be the case if it was on 4.3 before the update to a custom ROM, then you would have to return to stock Android 4.3 which is the latest OS available for the AT&T GS3. However, if it has an older bootloader, then you can flash Android 4.1.1 via Odin.
There are different sets of instructions for either system so I would suggest you check your phone's settings and advise the OS parameters you can see there so we can steer you in the correct direction.
zeshanlahoria said:
Could you please direct me to how to unroot? I am able to go into the recovery mode but not really sure how to go on from there. I appreciate the help.
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Did the phone originally have 4.3? or did it have an older version before you installed CM 10.2. This would determine how you would go about it.
Also is there a custom recovery like clockworkmod installed?
Hello guys
I cant install cwm recovery on my e980 using the freegee app. Can anyone help me with that issue
See the attached files
laith1234 said:
Hello guys
I cant install cwm recovery on my e980 using the freegee app. Can anyone help me with that issue
See the attached files
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Two options:
1) flash back to stock 4.1.2, root and install cwm via freegee
2) install gpro_recovery.apk from forums, flash recovery from there, update that dinosaur (I think it's 6.0.4.4) to something newer (Philz, which is slightly newer or latest TWRP available) and profit.
Thanks again shadi
But u mean to flash the gpro recovery using odin? (The old familiar way)?
Odin is for Samsung devices Which option confuses you?
I cant access the recovery mode so how can i flash the gprorecovery?
You download an APK called GPRO recovery, install it, and flash from there. After that, update recovery and enjoy.
To be honest with you, better option is to return back to Jellybean and start from there, possible less problems (wakelocks, deep sleep, battery drains etc.)
I did what ShadySquirrel said myself, It took a lot of looking and reading. Used the LG flash tool to go back to 4.1.2 then used I believe easy universal root where you connect the phone to the pc with charge only chosen under pc connections, then on the pc you run the bat file and it tells you what to do and roots the phone, checked root with a root checker app then used FreeGee to install cwm and twrp. So far so good. Good luck like I said it took a lot of reading.
Many thanks again for both of you...
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You download an APK called GPRO recovery, install it, and flash from there. After that, update recovery and enjoy.
To be honest with you, better option is to return back to Jellybean and start from there, possible less problems (wakelocks, deep sleep, battery drains etc.)
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shady i have an inquiry, do you recommend to go back to jellybean and then update the phone through the air? OTA update? or you mean to go back to JB and then start rooting and installing recovery?
as i understood from what you recommend is to go back to JB and then root and install recovery, but you mean to stay on JB??? and if not what i will get from returning back to JB, root and install recovery as im going to upgrade again to KK?
laith1234 said:
shady i have an inquiry, do you recommend to go back to jellybean and then update the phone through the air? OTA update? or you mean to go back to JB and then start rooting and installing recovery?
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laith1234 said:
as i understood from what you recommend is to go back to JB and then root and install recovery, but you mean to stay on JB??? and if not what i will get from returning back to JB, root and install recovery as im going to upgrade again to KK?
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Depending on what you plan to do.
If you want to use any non-stock based ROM out there (CM, Bliss, Slim etc.) it's better to return back to stock 4.1.2, root, flash recovery (Freegee + new TWRP after that) and start flashing. This way, you have great chances to avoid random wakelocks, problems etc. , which are typical for moving from stock 4.4.2 to any other ROM.
If you want to keep using stock ROM, well, you're in a problem because freegee doesn't support Kitkat, so you'll have to root, install GPRO_recovery.apk, flash it's recovery and then try flashing recovery from freegee or try flashing new twrp. If you want to stay on stock 4.1.2, then it's the previous cycle (root, Freegee, twrp update) and that's it.
If you decide to use stock roms, DON'T install OTAs, you'll get a soft brick because of custom recovery.
ShadySquirrel said:
Depending on what you plan to do.
If you want to use any non-stock based ROM out there (CM, Bliss, Slim etc.) it's better to return back to stock 4.1.2, root, flash recovery (Freegee + new TWRP after that) and start flashing. This way, you have great chances to avoid random wakelocks, problems etc. , which are typical for moving from stock 4.4.2 to any other ROM.
If you want to keep using stock ROM, well, you're in a problem because freegee doesn't support Kitkat, so you'll have to root, install GPRO_recovery.apk, flash it's recovery and then try flashing recovery from freegee or try flashing new twrp. If you want to stay on stock 4.1.2, then it's the previous cycle (root, Freegee, twrp update) and that's it.
If you decide to use stock roms, DON'T install OTAs, you'll get a soft brick because of custom recovery.
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many many thanks for this explanation, but i decided to stay in stock KK, so i maybe in a little problem, so i will stay in KK and root my device without installing the recovery, then i will be OK
Many thanks again,,,,