OK guys, I just want some clear answers on this. I've done a bit of forum searching but not entirely sure.
As I understand it, I can:
1: Unlock a branded vodafone UK phone with HTCdev.com
2: In doing this, it will 'delete' the CID.
3: Download the most recent stock unbranded OTA file from the forums.
4: Run the OTA instructions through computer installation.
Note: This should work as the CID is deleted?
5: Once this is done, I have suddenly have a stock official rom?
6: What would now happen when the next official OTA is due?
7: What rom would boot if I then did a full factory reset?
8: Because I did all of this with S ON, I can't go back to voda crapware so my warranty is basically void?
If any of you could give me clarity on the questions and above points, that would be awesome.
You can't bebranded without Super CID - having no CID means no update will run
OTA updates have the pre-requisite version in the name, e.g.
OTA_ENDEAVOR_U_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.9-1.26.401.2_release_256505w0tk6eiq8g74y4vb.zip
This means you HAVE to be on 1.26.401.2 to update to 1.28.401.9
To debrand you need to flash an unbranded RUU, which you cannot do at this time. All you can do is flash a 'stock' custom ROM
In that case, are there any stock 'custom' roms out there that can:
1: be reverted back to bloatware stock rom for warranty purposes
2: if and when official stock OTA are available, they can be downloaded and installed on top of the stock custom rom?
EmperorK said:
In that case, are there any stock 'custom' roms out there that can:
1: be reverted back to bloatware stock rom for warranty purposes
2: if and when official stock OTA are available, they can be downloaded and installed on top of the stock custom rom?
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The closest custom ROM to stock is the Android Revolution HD ROMs. If you do a nandroid backup as soon as you flash the custom recovery you can easily go back to stock by restoring your backup and flashing the stock recovery and then re-locking the phone.
How do I do a nandroid backup? I take it the backup is stored on my computer or something?
When you say custom recovery, do you mean the custom rom?
And lastly, when official OTA updates are released and the maker of arhd is kind enough to implement the changes into their rom, can this be installed as an update or does it require wiping the phone and installing a new arhd rom all over again?
Ps guys, thanks for all the help so far. I'm slowly starting to understand...
EmperorK said:
How do I do a nandroid backup? I take it the backup is stored on my computer or something?
When you say custom recovery, do you mean the custom rom?
And lastly, when official OTA updates are released and the maker of arhd is kind enough to implement the changes into their rom, can this be installed as an update or does it require wiping the phone and installing a new arhd rom all over again?
Ps guys, thanks for all the help so far. I'm slowly starting to understand...
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A nandroid backup is the backup you make when you root your phone and flash a custom recovery on it.
A custom recovery is not a custom ROM. A custom recovery is like a ms dos program for your phone. It is used to flash a custom ROM or backup your ROM (nandroid backup)
The latest ARHD ROM is based on the latest 1.28.401 base so all the updates and tweaks on the 1.28.401 is already there but optimized more.
EmperorK said:
How do I do a nandroid backup? I take it the backup is stored on my computer or something?
When you say custom recovery, do you mean the custom rom?
And lastly, when official OTA updates are released and the maker of arhd is kind enough to implement the changes into their rom, can this be installed as an update or does it require wiping the phone and installing a new arhd rom all over again?
Ps guys, thanks for all the help so far. I'm slowly starting to understand...
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Nandroid backup: A backup taken from ClockworkMod recovery using the UI on the phone. The backup is saved on the sdcard. It's good practice to keep a backup of it on the computer as well.
Custom recovery: The recovery is not the same as the "ROM". The recovery is a small partition on the device that you can boot into. From the recovery you can make changes to the main system, "ROM".
Updates: When updates are issued you should never use the OTA update. It may cause alot of problems. ROM builders/chefs are usually very quick to fetch an OTA update and implement it in their ROM so one usually ends up with the update quicker then if one would have waited for the OTA. When installing a smaller update, a wipe is often not required. It is always recommended to take new nandroid backups before installing updates though in case something goes wrong.
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US Cellular has been promising Froyo for the CDMA Desire since October, and I'm tired of waiting so I'm going to root it and flash a Froyo ROM myself. I read through the unrEVOked documentation, and it mentions that if I want to install official updates in the future I need to restore the recovery image, but it doesn't tell me how to get it. How do I pull the stock recovery image from my phone so that I can flash it back on should I need to?
You can't actually backup a whole rom without rooting first. You need the custom recovery to do a nandroid backup which will back up the whole rom. If anything does go wrong or you need to reinstall then you can just use an RUU to do it. US Cellular doesn't have an RUU yet but you can use other CDMA RUU's.
So am I to understand that there is no way to back up the stock recovery, as I would have to overwrite the existing recovery just to do backups in the first place?
Yep, root access is needed to back the whole ROM up
To be honest, it's better with root anyway and a lot better when you install a custom rom.... from my experience anyway.
Hi
I'm desperately looking for any Bell mobility stock 1.34.666.5 or Over.
The camera button is not working so I sent my phone to repair but they send it back because I do not have the right rom that was provided with my phone. I was able to unroot and put back 1.34.666.1 (the only one that is available it seems) but the technical support told me that my phone shipped with 1.34.666.5 and that they can't do anything unless I'm putting back this rom.
I tried getting OTA updates for 1.34.666.1 but it's not available. Minimum rom # to get OTA updates have to be 1.34.666.5
I'm screwed.
Regards
I have a nandroid backup of the stock ROM...it's rooted though.
Will I be able to flash using Clockwork Recovery? I can manage to remove root after flashing, I think.
Yes, flashable via Clockwork.
I'll let you know when I have it uploaded.
...and it's up.
https://xda:[email protected]/_xda/Bell.DZ.Stock.ROOTED.7z
Some notes:
- I only included the system and boot portions of the nandroid backup due to privacy concerns
- As such, you should do a system and boot restore (after a full wipe, of course) under "Advanced Restore"
- As mentioned earlier, this is rooted (so you'll need to unroot)
Hope this helps. Let us know how it goes.
Good news, I have been able to return to stock 1.34.666.5. Thank you very much for your backup.
I was thinking going unrooted was to be easy but i'm a little bit stuck.
How can I unroot and put back stock bootloader without flashing a new rom.
If I have to flash a new rom, is there a way to build one based on the backup you provided?
I've look at software update and there's an OTA update available for my phone. I tried to install but because I do not have the right bootloader (I think that's the problem) I'm unable to do the OTA update.
Thanks.
Tonkadan said:
Good news, I have been able to return to stock 1.34.666.5. Thank you very much for your backup.
I was thinking going unrooted was to be easy but i'm a little bit stuck.
How can I unroot and put back stock bootloader without flashing a new rom.
If I have to flash a new rom, is there a way to build one based on the backup you provided?
I've look at software update and there's an OTA update available for my phone. I tried to install but because I do not have the right bootloader (I think that's the problem) I'm unable to do the OTA update.
Thanks.
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That's good to hear. I'd recommend making your own nandroid backup immediately.
As for the bootloader, you're sure you flashed the ENG HBOOT during the rooting process? If that's the case, I'm not sure where you can find the stock HBOOT...
Yes, I installed the Eng HBoot.
I'm trying now renaming the OTA update.zip, put on the root of sdcard and make recovery to install that update but I got an error about getprop CID?? and the update failed...
Still looking for a solution.
How did you make out Tonkadan? I'm in the same boat. I heard that if you did apply this update that you would not be able to root your phone anymore.
I' still rooted. I'm unable to go back to stock. I'm using cyanogenmod 7 for now but would really want to go back to stock if somone have the official Bell rom over 1.34.666.5.
... Or any way to get OTA updates for RUU 1.34.666.1 that is available on shippedroms.com
Maybe a noobish question, but im sorry
As the title says : if i root the phone, will i be able to recieve updates OTA ?
edit : and same question : if i get cwr (for nandroid backups) will i be able to recieve OTA updates?
Thanks guys
So long as you're running the stock rom, you should still get OTA updates. They may or may not break root, but you'll have to risk that. If you're running a custom ROM, then you probably will not get OTA updates, but you can of course update your ROM as per the developer builds.
You will remove root if you install an OTA, and I have heard of people actually bricking their phones installing an OTA with root.
installing CWM will break OTA even if you're on the stock ROM because it flashes in stock recovery, not CWM.
...and from the mixed responses you can tell that it wasn't really a noob question. (all answers were partially correct, btw).
The update will still get pushed to your phone, based on the build version of your phone. The custom recovery will fail to install, at which point you can simply install it yourself by performing a manual flash via recovery.
Depending on the extent of the update, you may or may not lose root, and possibly even your custom recovery. Your best option is to manually flash an update, then the su.zip, and I've also put together flashable a script to prevent your custom recovery from reverting to stock at your next boot (I'll post it when I get chance). Flash all the files while in CWM, and you're golden!
I have reached maximum thanks-per-day, otherwise i would give a thanks to all of you..
So, i still have few questions :
1) If i root, get custom CWM, but stock rom, will i still be able to SEE ota update, and to DL it over the OTA (not flash it)?
2) Can i brick my device with flashing ota , while rooted and with custom CWM ?
Thanks in advance
-yes it will still show up.
-it won't brick your device, but the update will fail, and you'll have to pull battery to gay back into the os.
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Hi, i hope i am in the right place, sorry if not.
I want to root my One X on stock ROM. I currently have 4.1.1, CID HTC_001.
Is it possible to get it rooted while keeping certain things? These things are:
Being able to receive OTA
Keeping all files when rooting
Easy to revert back if i am not able to receive OTA.
Help will be very much appreciated thanks
If you unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com and flash a cwm custom recovery you can make a nandroid backup of the current non rooted rom and keep it in a safe place. You can restore that backup anytime if you want to go back stock.
After that you are able to flash custom roms or just root the one you are running currently ......
You might void some warranty with blocking the bootloader !!!
Tip : ALWAYS DO A NANDROID BACKUP FROM THE STOCK ROM !!!
Thank you
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If you unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com and flash a cwm custom recovery you can make a nandroid backup of the current non rooted rom and keep it in a safe place. You can restore that backup anytime if you want to go back stock.
After that you are able to flash custom roms or just root the one you are running currently ......
You might void some warranty with blocking the bootloader !!!
Tip : ALWAYS DO A NANDROID BACKUP FROM THE STOCK ROM !!!
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Thanks a lot. Just what i was looking for. I will certainly be doing this at some point. Shame you can't just root it but at least you are able to back it all up safely.
When following any guides
Don't flash the recovery. Just use fastboot boot recovery.img
Instead of fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
This way will leave the stock recovery on your device which is needed to apply any otaupdates
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Yes with the taken nandroid you can go back anytime....the only thing you have to remember is that when you took a nandroid backup the recovery of that backup is not stock, so after the restore you have to flash back the stock recovery before you can apply a official HTC update. But you can find that easily.....i have them also :thumbup:
That's great. OTA was something i really wanted, thanks. 4.2 is coming very soon and a possibility of 5. Just one more thing. Do you lose items on the virtual SD or does this not affect them at all?
Well do a full backup of the sd before you unlock the bootloader, it's sets the phone to its factory state and some say it wiped the sd but others say it didn't so that's a grey area for me !
Its probably the safest option, i will do that. Is using the stock recovery just as easy as using the custom recovery too? I read stock recovery and this insecure boot thing and it has a chance of bricking. Also i know a lot of articles are with 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 and 4.1 are different. I think 4.1 is the same as 4.0.4 though.
Well to be honest i'm not a big fan of rooting the stock rom ! I always flash a custom already rooted rom to have benefits of all the hard work that developers has.put into a rom. In my opinion a custom rom is always better than a stock rooted rom. So i don't much about the insecure root things !
What i do is : flash the custom recovery and backup the stock rom (keep that in a vault ) and flash a custom rom to play with !
Stock recovery has no use at all for me, i only need it when i want to update the phone with official HTC releases .....like they did to update to JB
ow and yes rooting and flashing on JB 4.1 are the same as on ICS 4.04 :thumbup:
Is it easy enough to go back to the stock recovery though if you have used the Clockwork one?
Yes it will take 3 fastboot commands while the phone is in fastboot USB menu
Fastboot erase cache
Fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img
Fastboot erase cache
And the stock recovery is restored !
That's all !
Ofcourse the nandroid has to be restored before that.....you copy the nandroid backup to the phone and flash the boot.img from that nandroid (its inside the nandroid folder) after that you do a full wipe in the custom recovery and restore the nandroid, then you boot it up to see if it runs and after that you flash the stock kernel ! Easy and simple.......and you don't have to re-lock and unlock the bootloader anymore, it can stay unlocked the whole process
That doesn't sound too bad... Thank you very much for the help, i will certainly be having a go. Sorry for some of the stupid questions, i am quite new to all this. Bricking is the only worry for me, if i can avoid that, i'm happy . Thanks again.
No problem mate ! I was already helping somebody else tonight.....multitasking it is !
Hahaha. Well i won't be starting until i can get my hands on another laptop as my current is in a poor state. Damaged hard drive. can run very slow at times. I tried transferring SD to memory stick. But it was running at a painful speed so i stopped it Tomorrow i should be able to get another one to backup my things onto.
my m9 has received an android 6 update massage. but after installing, the phone restarts in custom recovery.
please help me how to upgrade my rooted m9 to an official marshmallow. i do not want to upgrade to a custom ROM
excuse me, my English is so weak
How did you upgrade to Marshmallow with a custom recovery as that isn't possible...
Tell us what you have flashed...g
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i could not upgrade to marshmallow. i received an OTA upgrade message. i download first part and then a installing confirmation widows appeared and when i confirmed it the phone restarted and boot on custom recovery.
since i am xda new user i can not ad links to my posts. a link to a screenshot of my phone is above this post. i add some SPACES to it so i can post it
In order to upgrade to official MM....you need a stock recovery image...and a stock system image...
Search for...and flash your stock recovery....if that is the only thing you have changed....g
gregsarg said:
In order to upgrade to official MM....you need a stock recovery image...and a stock system image...
Search for...and flash your stock recovery....if that is the only thing you have changed....g
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thank you.
i just want to upgrade to android 6.
i know that i can flash custom roms with custom recovery. is it possible for me to download an stock system image and flash it with custom recovery the same way? i do not want to make everything back to its original. i want a rooted android 6 with custom recovery.
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i had some search. if i upgrade to stock android, then i will have to root my phone again and for that i have to flash a custom recover again. i searched and find out that android revolution custom ROM is a good choice for ones how wants to keep HTC Sense.
thank you for your support.
Check here for possible stock system images and recoveries...
You should be able to flash a stock system backup from this thread...to include recovery....then take your OTA....and flash TWRP afterwards....
Just make sure everything matches your carrier....cid/mid....so the outcome is favorable...g
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3132698
You'll quickly find, if you haven't already, that the latest Android Revolution HD (v20) requires you to have the latest firmware. Flashing it without it will throw your phone into a boot loop.
gregsarg said:
In order to upgrade to official MM....you need a stock recovery image...and a stock system image...
Search for...and flash your stock recovery....if that is the only thing you have changed....g
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If he has removed his carrier's bloatware as well as the custom recovery, would he have to flash the system image also?
Or just flash the recovery?
I am asking as many AT&T users often root to remove AT&T bloatware, like I did. I used HTCDev.com to root, and my bootloader is unlocked.
Soundwve said:
If he has removed his carrier's bloatware as well as the custom recovery, would he have to flash the system image also?
Or just flash the recovery?
I am asking as many AT&T users often root to remove AT&T bloatware, like I did. I used HTCDev.com to root, and my bootloader is unlocked.
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Flashing a stock RUU will guarantee that the system and recovery are completely stock...
The OTA scans the device prior to update and will detect any software that isn't signed or official...
I'd RUU back to stock...then OTA will prompt....and won't get stuck trying to update the system partition...g