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LTE is defiantly Verizon. Also appears to cost $299 (w/ 2 yr. contract) on Verizon.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-nexus-found-on-verizon-map-for-november-10-at-299-14188245/
Rumors have it going to AT&T & T-Mobile as well.... but those are just rumors.
LTE is technically AT&T as well, at least in some markets, but yes, I've heard the same rumors. That's what I'm trying to pin down, as Verizon's coverage in my area is spotty.
More/New Info:
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_nexu...lity_surface_costs_north_of_800-news-3289.php
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More/New Info:
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_nexu...lity_surface_costs_north_of_800-news-3289.php
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Lack of AT&T saddens me. Verizon has no coverage where I live.
God damn it, i don't care about verizon and their ridiculous pricing and lack of sim cards. Is this thing coming to T-Mobile?
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God damn it, i don't care about verizon and their ridiculous pricing and lack of sim cards. Is this thing coming to T-Mobile?
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I know how you feel, I feel the same way
I don't care if the f*cker costs $1000, just bring it to AT&T!!!!
Good news is..... wait for it.....
This info. seems dated, as this phone passed the FCC approval listings for AT&T and T-mobile.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/08/...s-through-the-fcc-possibly-heading-to-atandt/
So until we get an official Samsung or Google word on the actual carriers, I would just sum up everything to speculation.
The FCC testing reports and official spec sheets that have been floating around show the proper bands for both ATT and TMO. So, you can just order it where ever...
For those that are new to this line of phones, the nexus series has always ended up on all of the major carriers. Just be patient. I'm just as excited as you all are.
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I know how you feel, I feel the same way
I don't care if the f*cker costs $1000, just bring it to AT&T!!!!
Good news is..... wait for it.....
This info. seems dated, as this phone passed the FCC approval listings for AT&T and T-mobile.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/08/...s-through-the-fcc-possibly-heading-to-atandt/
So until we get an official Samsung or Google word on the actual carriers, I would just sum up everything to speculation.
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Yeah, that's just outrageous. It's typical phone pricing before the phone is actually released. When the dist settles, nothing but good news will come from it. There will be no way that this phone will be over $600. I'm thinking that $529 will be the sweet spot.
This is pentaband phone. I don't know why you need a carrier to have the SGN. I would buy it out right use it whatever carrier your on. Don't need a carrier to subsidies it even though it will be as cheaper way to go.
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sl8125 said:
This is pentaband phone. I don't know why you need a carrier to have the SGN. I would buy it out right use it whatever carrier your on. Don't need a carrier to subsidies it even though it will be as cheaper way to go.
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Ok, I;m gonna go out on my NooB limb here and just ask...
So, lets just say the Galaxy Nexus goes Verizon only in the U.S. (I don't think this will be the case, but for $hits & giggles, lets just say that's what happens)... I would assume that this Verizon version would be the LTE version of the Nexus. Ok, so since Verizon uses CMDA, I couldn't purchase one at full price from Verizon and just stick my AT&T card in it an expect it to work, could I??
So the other option (in this imaginary Verizon/U.S. only world) would be to order a over seas GSM version, use my AT&T sim card??? If so, would I need a unlock code??
Sorry for the stupid questions... just trying to get all my ducks in a row, so I know what to do when the official carrier info. is released by Samsung. This stuff just isn't my forte; usually just stick to a carrier phone, but am willing to make an exception in this case. Thanks.
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Ok, I;m gonna go out on my NooB limb here and just ask...
So, lets just say the Galaxy Nexus goes Verizon only in the U.S. (I don't think this will be the case, but for $hits & giggles, lets just say that's what happens)... I would assume that this Verizon version would be the LTE version of the Nexus. Ok, so since Verizon uses CMDA, I couldn't purchase one at full price from Verizon and just stick my AT&T card in it an expect it to work, could I??
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Not all LTE use the same frequencies just like the GSM issue with AT&T and TMobile in the US or even among some European countries where a 3g phone from one country will only have EDGE in another country even though both are GSM/UMTS. I haven't seen anything with the LTE frequencies being used, but you can easily Google to find the Verizon versus AT&T frequency problems as many have commented on it...prior to the release of this phone that is.
Now, it may be possible for Samsung to include many/all LTE frequencies in one radio. That sure would be good for the end user.
I don't care how much it would cost either, I just hope one of the models is ported to sprint
also, swiftks. Greetings from college station haha
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Ok, I;m gonna go out on my NooB limb here and just ask...
So, lets just say the Galaxy Nexus goes Verizon only in the U.S. (I don't think this will be the case, but for $hits & giggles, lets just say that's what happens)... I would assume that this Verizon version would be the LTE version of the Nexus. Ok, so since Verizon uses CMDA, I couldn't purchase one at full price from Verizon and just stick my AT&T card in it an expect it to work, could I??
So the other option (in this imaginary Verizon/U.S. only world) would be to order a over seas GSM version, use my AT&T sim card??? If so, would I need a unlock code??
Sorry for the stupid questions... just trying to get all my ducks in a row, so I know what to do when the official carrier info. is released by Samsung. This stuff just isn't my forte; usually just stick to a carrier phone, but am willing to make an exception in this case. Thanks.
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If you were to import a GSM hspa phone, no worries. All nexus phones are unlocked. You can use any GSM carrier. Previous nexus were either T-Mobile compatible or att compatible. But it seems the Galaxy Nexus is compatible with all GSM carrier.
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Abstract_Logic said:
I don't care how much it would cost either, I just hope one of the models is ported to sprint
also, swiftks. Greetings from college station haha
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Seriously. I am contemplating switching to Verizon, but I just don't think that it is a good idea to switch carriers just for a phone. Guess I will just have to enjoy my E3D until the SGN comes to Sprint - if it does.
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Seriously. I am contemplating switching to Verizon, but I just don't think that it is a good idea to switch carriers just for a phone. Guess I will just have to enjoy my E3D until the SGN comes to Sprint - if it does.
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I'm in the same boat. My Sprint contract ended on Thur, my Evo's USB has broken off, so I'm in need of a new phone. I can move to Verizon - or perhaps stay with Sprint and grab a Galaxy S2 (and wait for ICS port).
Recommendations?
Thanks and Gig'em.
So this sucks.... I hate you Verizon.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/1...xus-in-the-initial-wave-other-carriers-later/
Later... How much later??? Maybe??? Jesus, might as well wait for the SGSIII if it's gonna be spring of next year or some ridiculous thing. Hopefully the Asus Transformer 2 comes out sooner, that way I can at least console myself.
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"Samsung Janel: My mistake, no U.S. carrier has been determined yet. Stay tuned for updates."
Galaxy nexus prices?
So,what are the off contract prices for the galaxy nexus( in other country's)
in The Netherlands.
it will be released in December(late in my eyes) and for advice price of 649 euros!
really expensive in my eye's.
thats:
887,57 dollar.
564,76 British pound.
so im looking into a solution to import it for a cheaper price than the dutch version.
we use GSM here and that means the HSPA+ version if im right.
Pricing list:
The Netherlands- 649 Eur-887,57 USD-564,76 GBP
belsimpel.nl- 649 Eur-887,57 USD- 564,76 GBP [32GB]
MOBICITY- 605,50 Eur-810,18 USD-520,69 GBP [Pre-ORDER]
British retailer Clove-588,38 Eur-813,61 USD-514.80 GBP [16GB]
Italy-599 Eur-828,30 USD-524,10 GBP [16GB]
T-Mobile-469,34 Eur- 649 USD-410,65 GBP[unlocked 32GB][Source unknown,not 100% accurate]
I don't think very long. A month at most....just my two cents but I'm pretty sure Google WANTS the Nexus on EVERY CARRIER....
Great....I respond to the post directly above and then you edit....
It's a tablet dammit! Not a BIG phone....
In Italy the 16 GB version is going to be released in the second half on Novembre/start of December for 599€ (825$).
But I'm going to buy the 32GB unlocked T-Mobile Galaxy Nexus (that works with European networks) for about 649$ (only 470€).
**** italian prices :-D
I had been thinking of switching to Verizon for some LTE goodness, but then T-mobile had to go ahead and create a $30 no contract unlimited data/texting 100 minute plan (I never use minutes).
I can buy the phone at $600 and save more than the Verizon subsidy in under 8 months...
Gah...so torn...
melterx12 said:
God damn it, i don't care about verizon and their ridiculous pricing and lack of sim cards. Is this thing coming to T-Mobile?
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Actually all LTE phones require a sim card. I have the droid charge which has a sim thats needed for LTE
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Im considering leaving Verizon and my unlimited Data plan behind for AT&T. Am I crazy? I think of it like this.... We have more options with GSM. Google will sell the Nexus from now on for a no contract price cheaper than the stores. Verizon will probably never see another Nexus. If we like a phone that is ether not coming to the states or coming 6 months later we can still buy one.
Trading one tyrant for another.
Your call. I'd go contract free before doing such a thing.
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Im considering leaving Verizon and my unlimited Data plan behind for AT&T. Am I crazy? I think of it like this.... We have more options with GSM. Google will sell the Nexus from now on for a no contract price cheaper than the stores. Verizon will probably never see another Nexus. If we like a phone that is ether not coming to the states or coming 6 months later we can still buy one.
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You'll lose your unlimited Verizon plan when you "upgrade" your phone anyways... unless you buy full price.
So yeah personally I'm GSM all the way and I buy my phones full price anyways, and I use no contract T-Mobile. So up to you if you want.
Turb0wned said:
Im considering leaving Verizon and my unlimited Data plan behind for AT&T. Am I crazy? I think of it like this.... We have more options with GSM. Google will sell the Nexus from now on for a no contract price cheaper than the stores. Verizon will probably never see another Nexus. If we like a phone that is ether not coming to the states or coming 6 months later we can still buy one.
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Unless the coverage is poor in your area I would recommend T-Mobile over AT&T. AT&T is a rather awful carrier in more ways than I'd like to go into right now. Either way, while Verizon has incredible coverage I never recommend using a CDMA network of any kind, much less Verizon, but that is my own personal opinion.
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You'll lose your unlimited Verizon plan when you "upgrade" your phone anyways... unless you buy full price.
So yeah personally I'm GSM all the way and I buy my phones full price anyways, and I use no contract T-Mobile. So up to you if you want.
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Is this something that was just recently instated? I didn't buy my GN right away but when I upgraded I kept my Unlimited Data even though at the time they were selling 2gb/4gb/6gb packages.
joeymad said:
Is this something that was just recently instated? I didn't buy my GN right away but when I upgraded I kept my Unlimited Data even though at the time they were selling 2gb/4gb/6gb packages.
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Yes this is a recent change, it went into effect when shared data plans started (1-2 weeks ago)
joeymad said:
Is this something that was just recently instated? I didn't buy my GN right away but when I upgraded I kept my Unlimited Data even though at the time they were selling 2gb/4gb/6gb packages.
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Yep, starting June 28 the unlimited data plan is no longer available on Verizon for new contracts or upgrades
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Yes this is a recent change, it went into effect when shared data plans started (1-2 weeks ago)
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Few days ago, actually. We have just known it was coming for that long
GSM all the way. I much prefer the flexibility of SIM cards to..well..hard programming into the phone. There's something nice about being able to totally skip your carrier when you want to change phones.
For example, I got sick of my old HTC Legend. Even though I was only a year into my contract, I got a second hand Xperia Play, swap the sim, boom boom done. A year later I'm due for an upgrade and I'm not even sick of my phone. No matter, hello Nexus!
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GSM all the way. I much prefer the flexibility of SIM cards to..well..hard programming into the phone. There's something nice about being able to totally skip your carrier when you want to change phones.
For example, I got sick of my old HTC Legend. Even though I was only a year into my contract, I got a second hand Xperia Play, swap the sim, boom boom done. A year later I'm due for an upgrade and I'm not even sick of my phone. No matter, hello Nexus!
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/me looks at the SIM card in his Verizon phone
Yeah it's new. Came with the new shared everything plans. And apparently they're also going to start tacking on a 40 dollar per month service fee for smartphones as well. Really lame.
In my opinion, I'm really happy with ATT. Yeah they're more expensive than TMobile, but their coverage is damn good and my hspa+ speeds are actually faster than VZW's lte where I live. It really depends on your area. But I definitely suggest either ATT or TMobile purely for the gsm phones. Means you can use international versions as well.
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Yeah it's new. Came with the new shared everything plans. And apparently they're also going to start tacking on a 40 dollar per month service fee for smartphones as well. Really lame.
In my opinion, I'm really happy with ATT. Yeah they're more expensive than TMobile, but their coverage is damn good and my hspa+ speeds are actually faster than VZW's lte where I live. It really depends on your area. But I definitely suggest either ATT or TMobile purely for the gsm phones. Means you can use international versions as well.
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Not disagreeing that shared plans suck, but the shared plan and fee go together. It isn't enforced on other plans.
adrynalyne said:
/me looks at the SIM card in his Verizon phone
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Hahaha, no way. I guess I've just dated myself, I thought CDMA was still hard programmed into the phone Was always the reason I went with a GSM carrier.
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Hahaha, no way. I guess I've just dated myself, I thought CDMA was still hard programmed into the phone Was always the reason I went with a GSM carrier.
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Verizon found a way around it. Sprint on the other hand...they are still provisioned per phone.
adrynalyne said:
Verizon found a way around it. Sprint on the other hand...they are still provisioned per phone.
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When did it change? I remember when my American BF changed his phone a year or two ago (verizon) and he had to get them to reprogram the contacts because of lack of SIM. Sorry for the lack of knowledge here, I live in Canada.
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When did it change? I remember when my American BF changed his phone a year or two ago (verizon) and he had to get them to reprogram the contacts because of lack of SIM
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With the addiiton of LTE devices, they brought in the SIMs as well.
Their EvDo devices are simless, but as far as I know, there will be no more new 3G devices brought out. At least this year.
adrynalyne said:
With the addiiton of LTE devices, they brought in the SIMs as well.
Their EvDo devices are simless, but as far as I know, there will be no more new 3G devices brought out. At least this year.
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Ahh, gotcha.
I'll butt out now, I thought my thoughts were still relevant in this discussion
adrynalyne said:
Not disagreeing that shared plans suck, but the shared plan and fee go together. It isn't enforced on other plans.
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Yeah I forgot about that. I haven't looked at the new pricing at all, just read articles about it. Do you by chance know if the shared plans are cheaper overall for say a family of 4 with smartphones on the shared plan vs an old plan where they all have like 30 per month individual data plans? Seems to me like it wouldn't be much of a stretch for a carrier to pull some BS like that nowadays. Haha.
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If for some reason vzw doesn't get another Nexus, I'm outta here!
tgyberg said:
If for some reason vzw doesn't get another Nexus, I'm outta here!
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I don't see Verizon getting the nexus again...
Hey everybody my Verizon contract is up this year and I was wondering what other people's experience is with other carriers. I love having a nexus but I doubt VZW ever gets another one. Also, I'm grandfathered into unlimited data so I'd never be able to upgrade without paying full price.
To sum it up, what are people's experience with GSM carriers that have unlimited data? Do you think Verizon ever gets another Nexus?
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only GSM carrier with unlimited data is T-Mobile, they offer unlimited and "limited" plans.
do i think verizon will get another one? i dont know, just wait and find out. next nexus devices will be announced soon.
regardless i wouldnt want a vzw nexus device as it isnt a true nexus device in terms of ota. if you dont get otas then vzw nexus is alright. (vzw still has to approve of the update before it gets OTA'd to VZW Nexus devices)
Google is probably pissed off at Verizon by now.
Verizon: So, where's my new Nexus?
Google: Screw you. Talk to the hand, b****h.
Livebyte said:
Google is probably pissed off at Verizon by now.
Verizon: So, where's my new Nexus?
Google: Screw you. Talk to the hand, b****h.
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If there isn't another Nexus on Verizon it'll be because that's the way Verizon wants it, not the other way around.
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Kazba1626 said:
I love having a nexus but I doubt VZW ever gets another one.
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Unless you are a decision maker at Verizon or Google, it really makes no sense to speculate about future smartphone offerings. Do tech sites paint a negative picture for the future? Always, but that shouldn't matter if you are happy with everything in the present. There is no definitive details on the nexus line so wait and see is your best option.
Remember, when the galaxy nexus came out, it was announced that it would be exclusive to Verizon, and that turned out to be wrong in the end.
I left Verizon after being with them for about 10 years, for the Google Play GSM Nexus. I am using it on Straight Talk Sim (Att). I get updates, have no contract, have a lot of data, unlimited calls and text...and I am only paying $45 per month. Couldn't be happier. Verizon sux big time, I am so glad I don't have to deal with their BS anymore.
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Unless you are a decision maker at Verizon or Google, it really makes no sense to speculate about future smartphone offerings. Do tech sites paint a negative picture for the future? Always, but that shouldn't matter if you are happy with everything in the present. There is no definitive details on the nexus line so wait and see is your best option.
Remember, when the galaxy nexus came out, it was announced that it would be exclusive to Verizon, and that turned out to be wrong in the end.
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Pretty sure that this exclusivity was within the U.S. only as internationally phones were distributed.
I guess the contract ended and expanded to Sprint and ultimately their Play Store devices section.
I agree with you that exclusivity was stupid on both Google and Verizon's part. Never a fan on why two companies would even bother doing phone exclusivities.
stelv said:
I left Verizon after being with them for about 10 years, for the Google Play GSM Nexus. I am using it on Straight Talk Sim (Att). I get updates, have no contract, have a lot of data, unlimited calls and text...and I am only paying $45 per month. Couldn't be happier. Verizon sux big time, I am so glad I don't have to deal with their BS anymore.
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That's an awesome deal. Gonna have to look into that in the future, if that will indeed exist in the future.
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phaze one said:
That's an awesome deal. Gonna have to look into that in the future, if that will indeed exist in the future.
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I am pretty sure it will. Works on either Att or Tmobile networks. Straight Talk is one of the bigger no contract carriers. Here is a link to Straight Talk Sim
Here is a link from my sig on prepaid sim carriers, there are a good amount of them now.
stelv said:
I am pretty sure it will. Works on either Att or Tmobile networks. Straight Talk is one of the bigger no contract carriers. Here is a link to Straight Talk Sim
Here is a link from my sig on prepaid sim carriers, there are a good amount of them now.
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Yup works on both AT&T and T-Mobile. HSPA+ (4G) compatible.
Line it up with a 2000 mAh extended battery (~$35) from shimshop on eBay. Comes with a extended battery cover that makes the phone feel much much much better in the hand.
Version will most likely be then first CDMA carrier to receive the nexus. Especially with the Optimus G launching on Sprint. I doubt ATT or T-Mobile will offer it subsidized on contract. That's leave Verizon or Unlocked versions
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Run away and don't look back!
I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile to get the Sensation and then finally the Galaxy Nexus. I'm happy and I have no regrets leaving Verizon.
Main points are: having an unlocked phone with no contract gives me peace of mind. I hear people talk about their "contracts" all the time.. not having to worry about this is great. Verizon has good service, but T-Mobile's is no slouch for me. My service has been great.. and better in some areas where Verizon didn't work. And it's cheaper. Finally, my phone is cutting edge tech.. even after being a year old. I have the latest software and every feature I could ask for. It's also nice being able to go to another country, pop in a SIM and go on your way (if needed).
When I heard Verizon got the Nexus first after I left, initially I was upset.. but then I found out Verizon was still Verizon and they screwed the whole Nexus experience up the only way they know how. I'll never go back to that mess.
I switched to ATT and back to VZW, the service here in my area is just way better on verizon. On top of the service being better, 4G here is widespread and very fast, not even available with ATT.
I too left Verizon for Straight Talk. LTE is fast and sweet, but hspa+ is good enough for me. If I have to download something large I do it at home on wifi. I had the t-mobile $30 prepaid plan and their hspa+ speeds are amazing, but their coverage is very spotty where I live. I love not having a contract and also am paying less than half of what I paid Verizon.
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I was looking at the HTC website and see that an off contract M9 is on sale for $650. I would buy one if it will run on Verizon. Unfortunately, HTC list AT&T, Sprint, Tmobile, but no Verizon. See attachment.
Do you think we will ever see on off-contract, developer edition of the M9 for Verizon?
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I was looking at the HTC website and see that an off contract M9 is on sale for $650. I would buy one if it will run on Verizon. Unfortunately, HTC list AT&T, Sprint, Tmobile, but no Verizon. See attachment.
Do you think we will ever see on off-contract, developer edition of the M9 for Verizon?
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I believe that Verizon is not listed yet is because they have not started their pre-orders yet, which will start on April 1. At that time, I'm sure that VZW will be included on HTC's website.
Will the developer edition work on the Verizon network?
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Will the developer edition work on the Verizon network?
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At present, Developer is GSM only, so, no, it's won't work on Verizon.
Will the M9 Unlocked work with Verizon?
I've never bought an unlocked phone so I appologize if this is a noob question, but I did do some searching and didn't come up with any answers.
Will the unlocked M9 work on Verizon?
Thanks!
Very doubtful, usually GSM only.
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I just spoke to HTC customer service and they confirmed that both the unlocked and developer's edition are GSM only. No go on Verizon
waffleking said:
I've never bought an unlocked phone so I appologize if this is a noob question, but I did do some searching and didn't come up with any answers.
Will the unlocked M9 work on Verizon?
Thanks!
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Your post has been moved here, as the question has already been discussed/answered here:good:
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I just spoke to HTC customer service and they confirmed that both the unlocked and developer's edition are GSM only. No go on Verizon
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This is so maddening. I want a 64 GB version of the M9 which runs on Vz and can be unlocked and used with a custom bootloader!!! Pure Google for me.
I am hoping that once the M9 gets into the hands of the XDA developers that they find a way to turn on the Vz bands for the Developer Edition. I am thinking that there is only one hardware version of the M9 with different bands turned on for GSM versus Verizon. That seems to be the case with the S4.
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I was looking at the HTC website and see that an off contract M9 is on sale for $650. I would buy one if it will run on Verizon. Unfortunately, HTC list AT&T, Sprint, Tmobile, but no Verizon. See attachment.
Do you think we will ever see on off-contract, developer edition of the M9 for Verizon?
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wouldn't it be cheaper to add another line. activate phone. swap sim cards. change phone on new line to non-smart phone. $10/month. Sell your old phone or trade it in for a $100 credit (current promo). If you know someone that could use the extra phone, nice added bonus.
I have 5 lines on my plan and I use my other lines to borrow the upgrades from in order to upgrade every year. plus it's a business plan with only a $175 early termination fee. I've done that once too.
Might be too complicated but it could definitely save money.
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I was looking at the HTC website and see that an off contract M9 is on sale for $650. I would buy one if it will run on Verizon. Unfortunately, HTC list AT&T, Sprint, Tmobile, but no Verizon. See attachment.
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No none of the non verizon version m9's will support the verizon bands.
The bands could probably be unlocked but just like the guys did to run the verizon m8's on tmobile there are so many issues with data most lose LTE signal a lot so it sounds like a can of worms.
Honestly I do not feel there would be enough dev support to get this accomplished even though I believe it could be done.
Many devs believe the phones are all the same hardware wise so they believe the carrier type and bands are all set up through software, but unless you know someone at htc willing to help, it probably wont happen, and if they did their job would be on the line.
I"am with you on this as I would like this also as I did on the m8 but just like converting a verizon m8 or m9 to a dev edition its probably not ever going to happen, which that issue is believed to be with the cdma side, as the verizon m8 and m9 are both world phones meaning both cdma and gsm.
You can probably thank verizon for that, as they do not want non verizon phones on their network, and since verizon always requires htc to not allow htc dev to unlock their bootloaders, so you probably wont ever see a dev edition for the verizon service.
This will probably never change until verizon gets knocked down a peg or two and they see at&t and tmobile are gaining ground and they figure out that they have to to be able to compete.
Verizon as a company just thinks they own the market and they do not care about their customers or what their customers want, they only care about what verizon wants and one day that kind of thinking will cost them.
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No none of the non verizon version m9's will support the verizon bands.
The bands could probably be unlocked but just like the guys did to run the verizon m8's on tmobile there are so many issues with data most lose LTE signal a lot so it sounds like a can of worms.
Honestly I do not feel there would be enough dev support to get this accomplished even though I believe it could be done.
Many devs believe the phones are all the same hardware wise so they believe the carrier type and bands are all set up through software, but unless you know someone at htc willing to help, it probably wont happen, and if they did their job would be on the line.
I"am with you on this as I would like this also as I did on the m8 but just like converting a verizon m8 or m9 to a dev edition its probably not ever going to happen, which that issue is believed to be with the cdma side, as the verizon m8 and m9 are both world phones meaning both cdma and gsm.
You can probably thank verizon for that, as they do not want non verizon phones on their network, and since verizon always requires htc to not allow htc dev to unlock their bootloaders, so you probably wont ever see a dev edition for the verizon service.
This will probably never change until verizon gets knocked down a peg or two and they see at&t and tmobile are gaining ground and they figure out that they have to to be able to compete.
Verizon as a company just thinks they own the market and they do not care about their customers or what their customers want, they only care about what verizon wants and one day that kind of thinking will cost them.
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I guess that my next phone will be a Nexus. Hopefully I can get the 64 Gb version to run on Vz.
The N6 seems too big, but I hear that people get used to it.
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I guess that my nwxt phone will be a Nexus. Hopefully I can get the 64 Gb version to run on Vz.
The N6 seems too big, but I hear that people get used to it.
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Did you know that on the m9 you can get one free replacement such as if yours gets water damage or broken screen I think, or if you switch carriers htc will swap you out a m9 for the new carrier.
Now on the nexus 9 they are all supposed to work on any carrier, but the only ones verizon will activate on their network are the ones they sell. But what you can do is activate your sim in another verizon phone then pop it in any nexus 6 and its supposed to work they just wont activate a sim in a non verizon version and they will know because the imei of lets say a sprint version or tmobile wont be in their network of imei numbers that can be activated, but like I said activate the sim in another verizon phone and then put it in the nexus 6 and your good to go.
The one dev tigerstown he has a nexus 6 and an m8 also and he said he modified a sense 7 rom from an m9 to work on his nexus 6 so he has a nexus 6 running a htc sense 7 rom and he even uses the htc camera software on it.
I thought about it too and yeah it seemed a bit too big for myself also I want a 5.5 inch screen, I might check out the m9 plus but if it has the cheap processor and does not come with the 810 processor then I definitely wont be buying it. That lower grade processor might fly in the china market but it sure wont here.
Verizon is so bad that they will only activate imei numbers of there own phones they will block imei numbers of other phones and these are phones with clean imei numbers, where at&t & tmobile all they care about is that the imei number is not blacklisted which is all that should matter but verizon just tries to control everything and why should they care what phone you use when at&t & tmobile dont ?
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wouldn't it be cheaper to add another line. activate phone. swap sim cards. change phone on new line to non-smart phone. $10/month. Sell your old phone or trade it in for a $100 credit (current promo). If you know someone that could use the extra phone, nice added bonus.
I have 5 lines on my plan and I use my other lines to borrow the upgrades from in order to upgrade every year. plus it's a business plan with only a $175 early termination fee. I've done that once too.
Might be too complicated but it could definitely save money.
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What? Can you explain this differently. Lets say with my current device a Droid DNA, if I wanted to get an M9 and I am still in contract.
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What? Can you explain this differently. Lets say with my current device a Droid DNA, if I wanted to get an M9 and I am still in contract.
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How much is your etf ? You could pay your etf then open a new account on the comcast web site as they are a verizon dealer then you will get a $150.00 visa prepaid card for a rebate which it says you will receive it with in 6 weeks of your activation.
Or you could add another line getting the m9 which the comcast site has a $50.00 visa prepaid card as a rebate for that I believe as they list getting an upgrade. But then switch the 2nd line to a cheap regular phone like a flip or something and I think your monthly cost goes down, or after you get the m9 on your new line close it paying off the etf and put the m9 on your other line you had first. I think you can save some this way, also then you could sell your old phone to get some of the cost back.
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wouldn't it be cheaper to add another line. activate phone. swap sim cards. change phone on new line to non-smart phone. $10/month. Sell your old phone or trade it in for a $100 credit (current promo). If you know someone that could use the extra phone, nice added bonus.
I have 5 lines on my plan and I use my other lines to borrow the upgrades from in order to upgrade every year. plus it's a business plan with only a $175 early termination fee. I've done that once too.
Might be too complicated but it could definitely save money.
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What? Can you explain this differently. Lets say with my current device a Droid DNA, if I wanted to get an M9 and I am still in contract.
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In the past you could do this, now they have a note that says you must keep the $30 data plan on whatever line you use to upgrade/sign up. They are doing everything they can to get their money from you.
Just wondering. Why are so many of you buying from Verizon & BestBuy instead of Google?
You do realize the phones not purchased from Google will have a locked bootloader. So why would you buy from Verizon or BestBuy instead of Google, who has the same price and you can use either phones on Verizon if you so choose to do so.
I don't want to say ya'll are dumb, but I kind of feel this way.
I'm sure there is something I'm missing though, so help me understand please.
Are the payment plan options the same? If so that might be one reason. I have Verizon because that's what my employer (who pays for the phone and the bill) uses.
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Believe it or not, not everyone needs a bootloader unlocked these days. My days of tinkering with Android are over as I feel Android is better than ever. It is unfortunate the OP feels that I am dumb because everyone doesn't agree with his way of thinking...
It was also cheaper to purchase from Verizon for a new 2 year cobtract
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I personally ordered mine from Verizon due to my work account, and also don't care about root or unlocked boot loaders since I haven't needed either in several years. That being said I also believe many people have not been buying directly from Google because Google hasn't been able to keep them in stock. Which of course also implies that many people are buying them from Google, lol.
Best Buy is cheaper with a 2 year agreement ($299.99) as well as a 24 month installment ($31 a month), for 32GB version.
Also, best buy is giving a $100 gift card, which you can do whatever you want with. (resell it, use it, etc).
If you are only keeping the phone for two years, and don't care about updates after that, then its probably a better route. After two years, you are SOL for getting an up to date OS.
I had the note 7....the last return I just upgraded to the pixel xl. In exchange So....through Verizon it was.
Its an economic decision for me. In Germany I'll get the Device from T-Mobile Germany for 179€ (around 197 US$) for the renewal of my contract - I think this ist much better than the 1097€ direct from Google. The only downside is that it will have a locked bootloader...I'm still hoping someone finds a way to unlock the bootloaders of the Devices wich doesnt come directly from Google.
I ordered mine from Verizon. I haven't rooted a phone in a long time so locked or unlocked bootloader doesn't really matter for me.
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You do realize the phones not purchased from Google will have a locked bootloader.
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I have my phone rooted for Tasker and Xposed, but the Verizon phone can effectively be considerably cheaper right now.
So why would you buy from Verizon or BestBuy instead of Google, who has the same price and you can use either phones on Verizon if you so choose to do so.
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Best Buy will currently give a $100 gift card if you don't want a new line, a $200 gift card for a new line, another $25 for a sign-up will be available after the pre-order is over, and it can be done with monthly payments to allow porting out or cancelling the line. Verizon has phone trades that total $200-$300, which is done through reduced monthly payments, and my Razr M qualified for $200. Some people have other options on Verizon. Google does not offer similar sort of ways to essentially reduce the phone's cost at this time.
I don't want to say ya'll are dumb, but I kind of feel this way.
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Personally I question the idea of paying iPhone 7 prices, and since I'm not interested in the VR headset, that's basically what initial Google store customers are doing. As much as I like what Tasker can do with root, I'm not sure it's worth giving up automatic updates and effectively spending another $175 that I could have with $225 in Best Buy gift cards. If it turns out that there are limitations on the Verizon phones for anything other than the bootloader unlock, I'll probably change my opinion, but at this time it looks like Google's bottom-line price is considerably higher than what is possible at Verizon.
Purely inventory for me. Google shipments are a month or more out. They won't even take my money to pre-order it. VZW device I can have in 3 days.
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Buying it as a contract renewal over Deutsche Telekom is way cheaper for me, especially because I work there and get a monthly discount on the main contract.
I have to 29,95€ monthly instead of 64,95€ and get the Pixel XL 128 GB for 279,95€ on time fee.
But even the phone for my wife is way cheaper. I paid 19,95€ for here family card without a phone before, now we upgraded it to a contract with phone to 29,95€ a month and also 279,95€ for the small Pixel 32 GB.
Yes, I would also love to have a unlockable bootloader and instant updates from Google but after not rooting phones for a couple of years I will get along with it.
I wanted the one from the google store but didn't feel like waiting for it. I would like to have the bootloader unlocked just for the option but i haven't had time or need to mess with rooting and custom roms, so just having pure android is perfect for me. So for me it made sense to just order from Verizon, everyone has different needs or reasons and i would say for 90% of the people buying this phone has no need to ever unlock the bootloader or even know much about that world of roms and rooting. I thinks its a stretch to insinuate people are dumb for having a choice and choosing one over the other
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Troll. Glad you like your OP3. I'm sure there are plenty people on the OP3 threads that agree with you and would love to hear your comments.
I ordered from Verizon because I was able to trade in an old phone for monthly device credit. It should save me $100-200 depending on how long I stay on Verizon DPP. I preordered one from the Google Play Store as well. I don't plan on opening the box from the play store unless the Verizon model upsets me and needs to be returned.
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Whats the point of buying two then? Everything about the Verizon version is the same except for boot loader.....
Buying it directly from Verizon because
1) My job will be paying for it
2) I feel once I have stock Android I don't really need to have root or an unlocked bootloader.
3) Don't have to wait until it comes back in stock via the playstore.
Major discount through employee. 419 vs 869 for xl 128gb and plus availability. Still waiting though as I want to see if anyone cracks that Verizon bootloader within the first month.
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Whats the point of buying two then? Everything about the Verizon version is the same except for boot loader.....
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I am planning on keeping the Verizon Pixel because it is cheaper for me. As more reviews and info come out that is ACTUALLY reputable, I want to be able to return it to Verizon within the first 2 weeks if I decide there are significant differences between the Verizon version and the Google Play version. If I do that, I want to have the Google Play store Pixel in a box ready for me to switch over. This way I also get to take advantage of the Daydream VR, no matter which device I return.
Since the announcement on October 4th, there has not been any real credible information about the Pixel. Everything has been "so and so said this... Don't buy the Verizon version... etc." Then every Android blog site just blindly regurgitates what was said as if it was real news. NO ONE fact checks. Some CSR at Verizon who doesn't know what a freaking bootloader even is said something, then everyone freaks out and android headlines and forums go crazy. Then someone at Google says something else and everyone takes that as the truth. Does anyone even look at where the info came from? The only group I believe at all at this time is Google Pixel team. If they didn't say it or someone cannot show me in a video with their phone in their hand, I'm not going to believe it.
As long as I am confident that the Verizon pixel will get updates straight from Google when Google promises (just like what I'm used to with Nexus), I don't see a convincing reason not to go with Verizon. I would like the ability to unlock the bootloader so that I can flash the factory images if that promise is not kept. With every new version of Android, I find less need to try custom roms. With what I have seen from 7.1, I don't think I will even have the urge.
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It is unfortunate the OP feels that I am dumb because everyone doesn't agree with his way of thinking...
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I regret saying it the way I did.
I don't think you're dumb at all.
XDA is all about development, I guess I'm still surprised when there are people here who don't care about flashing ROM's or backing up in TWRP and even some who apparently don't care about root any longer.
If I didn't care about flashing ROM's (or root), I'd be on a S7 Edge right now.
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I am planning on keeping the Verizon Pixel because it is cheaper for me. As more reviews and info come out that is ACTUALLY reputable, I want to be able to return it to Verizon within the first 2 weeks if I decide there are significant differences between the Verizon version and the Google Play version. If I do that, I want to have the Google Play store Pixel in a box ready for me to switch over. This way I also get to take advantage of the Daydream VR, no matter which device I return.
Since the announcement on October 4th, there has not been any real credible information about the Pixel. Everything has been "so and so said this... Don't buy the Verizon version... etc." Then every Android blog site just blindly regurgitates what was said as if it was real news. NO ONE fact checks. Some CSR at Verizon who doesn't know what a freaking bootloader even is said something, then everyone freaks out and android headlines and forums go crazy. Then someone at Google says something else and everyone takes that as the truth. Does anyone even look at where the info came from? The only group I believe at all at this time is Google Pixel team. If they didn't say it or someone cannot show me in a video with their phone in their hand, I'm not going to believe it.
As long as I am confident that the Verizon pixel will get updates straight from Google when Google promises (just like what I'm used to with Nexus), I don't see a convincing reason not to go with Verizon. I would like the ability to unlock the bootloader so that I can flash the factory images if that promise is not kept. With every new version of Android, I find less need to try custom roms. With what I have seen from 7.1, I don't think I will even have the urge.
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So much this right here. They said this about the Verizon N6 also. That everything would be locked down and look what happened. Nothing was locked down at all. I ordered the Verizon Pixel XL because of this also and i dont really need root anymore. If i am able to root its a plus but not a deal breaker for me.
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Purely inventory for me. Google shipments are a month or more out. They won't even take my money to pre-order it. VZW device I can have in 3 days.
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Yes, I also am grumpy and pissed at google for messing up the "orders / pre-orders". Year after year, they keep screwing up on the first step. They "could" have manufactured an extra 50, 000 and it would not have hurt their economics and it would have greatly helped their public image. Did the 'Note 7' burn put a snag in things ?
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What if the "big and detailed" reviews start coming in and it shows a narley wart about the phone ? ? ? My biggest, desired attribute is the big leap in the camera ( camcorder ? ) area . . .