I noticed with both my Nexus 6 and my LG G4 (and I think the old Nexus 5, as well) that if you turn the phone so the screen is horizontal and wear polarized glasses, the screen appears completely dark. Can someone with the 5X please throw some polarized glasses on, turn the phone sideways and let us know if you can see the screen or not?
It may sound silly but if the above is an issue, it is an absolute deal breaker for me since I always use my phone horizontally for navigation while it's in my car.
Curious to the answer to this as well. My Sony Z3 acts the same way, so I use navigation in portrait mode.
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Well, it's an LCD screen, so there's bound to be some orientation where the screen's dark if you have polarized sunglasses on. I'll check for you when I get my phone in a day or two.
Yeah, I learned to use my nexus 5 in portrait while navigating. It's not so bad once you're used to it.
FredFS456 said:
Well, it's an LCD screen, so there's bound to be some orientation where the screen's dark if you have polarized sunglasses on. I'll check for you when I get my phone in a day or two.
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That's what I was afraid of. Looking forward to your update.
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Yeah, I learned to use my nexus 5 in portrait while navigating. It's not so bad once you're used to it.
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Can't do it. Horizontally, these phones fit perfectly in a little cubby, right in front of the shifter. If I tried to use the phone in portrait mode I'd have to pick it up and hold it rather than utilizing the cubby to keep the phone at a perfect angle for viewing for navigation and music.
Can confirm. Polarized glasses turn the screen black while in landscape mode. Just got my 5x today.
ditch the x5 because you'd rather not have ten dollar sunglasses for driving?
the reason I find this funny is that there are bmw and porsche boards with this same discussion. No Mister salesman, I don't want the heads up display, I just can't see it with my P ray bans on. lol.
I'm not trying to be a ****, I think it's funny, and of course, everyone needs a hobby.
carry on brother.
Horizontal, the phone is dark when using polarized sunglasses. Buy one of those universal phone holders to hold your phone near your steering wheel in a vertical position.
I had this same question the other day. My phone arrives tomorrow and was really hoping it wouldn't be an issue. Grrrr.
And no, I don't wear cheap drug store polarized sunglasses. They're good quality frames with my progressive bifocal prescription. Cost several hundred Yankee greenbacks.
Your day is coming, youngster. 8^)
UnusualSuspect said:
I had this same question the other day. My phone arrives tomorrow and was really hoping it wouldn't be an issue. Grrrr.
And no, I don't wear cheap drug store polarized sunglasses. They're good quality frames with my progressive bifocal prescription. Cost several hundred Yankee greenbacks.
Your day is coming, youngster. 8^)
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Love it! I was drawn into this thread. My oneplus one is the same exact way, sideways with glasses on trying to take a pic... nope, the screen glass is polarized so it's black, too.
It's not that the screen glass is polarized - it's just how LCD screens work. All light they output is polarized. Unless you get an AMOLED screen (my past phone, the Galaxy Nexus, had one) then your phone will always be dark in landscape when you have polarized sunglasses on.
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It's not that the screen glass is polarized - it's just how LCD screens work. All light they output is polarized. Unless you get an AMOLED screen (my past phone, the Galaxy Nexus, had one) then your phone will always be dark in landscape when you have polarized sunglasses on.
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Interesting, never thought LCD vs AMOLED. I'm glad I ordered the 6P then. Good note to stay away from LCD, cause I swear by polarized sunglasses. Thanks for the tip! :good::good:
syntrix said:
Interesting, never thought LCD vs AMOLED. I'm glad I ordered the 6P then. Good note to stay away from LCD, cause I swear by polarized sunglasses. Thanks for the tip! :good::good:
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AMOLED isn't perfect with this either. There may be differences between implementations but my galaxy S4 is dim with weird angle-dependent rainbow shimmering from ALL angles when wearing my beloved polarized sunglasses, distracting to the extent that I would often take them off when using my phone for more than a minute.
Coming from that I'm actually stoked that my 5X looks perfect in portrait mode because that's the way I use it most of the time when out and about.
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AMOLED isn't perfect with this either. There may be differences between implementations but my galaxy S4 was dim with weird angle-dependent rainbow shimmering from ALL angles when wearing my beloved polarized sunglasses, distracting to the extent that I would often take them off when using my phone for more than a minute.
Coming from that I'm actually stoked that my 5X looks perfect in portrait mode because that's the way I use it most of the time when out and about.
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Woah, I thought it was just all the mushrooms I did in college that made me see that faint rainbow thing on the S4. Woah man! Wait, it might that you did certain things in college that you haven't disclosed too!
Different glasses are polarized differently. A good glasses/lens shop will be able to customize the angle on your polarization to help eliminate problems if you are having them.
Fired up the GNex last nite, and yes the screen is fine while wearing my sunglasses. If I'd have known I might have given more consideration to the 6P.
But ... nope. Can't hang with a phablet.
A tempered-glass screen protector will scatter the polarization so that the phone can be used from any angle.
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Just wondering if anyone has the new version yet and knows if the screen is polarized and if so, in what direction. I have a first gen that I got a while ago that is destined for an install in my car. However the screen is invisible in landscape mode with polarized sunglasses so I've been holding off installing it.
No no that's not a feature of the screen, if the screen were polarized in a specific direction that would make the viewing angles horrible. You'd only want to view the device in that direction.
Your sunglasses are basically blocking out any incident light so it really shouldn't matter what device you use you're going to get the same result
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SWOLEGASM said:
No no that's not a feature of the screen, if the screen were polarized in a specific direction that would make the viewing angles horrible. You'd only want to view the device in that direction.
Your sunglasses are basically blocking out any incident light so it really shouldn't matter what device you use you're going to get the same result
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So just to confirm, the screen in the new gen isn't polarized like the last?
FWIW the polarization doesn't affect viewing angles, it affects what rotations the screen can be viewed (if you are wearing polarized glasses). Sorry to nitpick about wording if that's what you meant. Also I have no idea what you meant by the last statement or how it applies to this question.
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So just to confirm, the screen in the new gen isn't polarized like the last?
FWIW the polarization doesn't affect viewing angles, it affects what rotations the screen can be viewed (if you are wearing polarized glasses). Sorry to nitpick about wording if that's what you meant. Also I have no idea what you meant by the last statement or how it applies to this question.
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To simply answer you question.......The new N7 is the same. Cant see anything in landscape and portrait viewing is unaffected by polarized glasses.
Well that sucks but thanks for the info. All the other mobile devices I have are at least polarized on a 45 degree angle so they can be used in either direction... albeit dimmed quite a bit. I'm a little surprised Google didn't do this.
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Well that sucks but thanks for the info. All the other mobile devices I have are at least polarized on a 45 degree angle so they can be used in either direction... albeit dimmed quite a bit. I'm a little surprised Google didn't do this.
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You can buy your own polarization films to have the same or even better effects.
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You can buy your own polarization films to have the same or even better effects.
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At the risk of spreading misinformation... yes there are polarizing films you could put on but it would not have better effects. As I've been informed the polarization of this display is unchanged from the original N7, or polarized in portrait mode in the long axis. Adding a polarizing film at 45 degrees will not repolarize the display to that axis, but will block some of the light coming from the display... only guessing here but probably block approx 50% when viewed naked eye. When viewing through polarized glass like sunglasses the result would still be the same polarization, except what ever you see would be dimmed by the amount that the polarizing film subtracted. I assume there would be a bit of scatter from the film that would randomize the polarization that would negate the effect a bit but I doubt it would be noticeable.
It's a shame really, since I love EVERYTHING else about this watch - good price, snappy processor, GPS, WiFi (not even sure what that will bring eventually), NFC.
But with this thing serving primarily as a watch on my wrist, I just can't stand the ambient screen. From pretty much any angle it is a low-contrast, mustard-y yellow.
I'm looking at the LG R watch now. It's $50 more, and is missing a bunch of features, but the screen is GREAT. :'-(
I really wanted to like this watch! Please XDA, talk me into keeping it!!
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It's a shame really, since I love EVERYTHING else about this watch - good price, snappy processor, GPS, WiFi (not even sure what that will bring eventually), NFC.
But with this thing serving primarily as a watch on my wrist, I just can't stand the ambient screen. From pretty much any angle it is a low-contrast, mustard-y yellow.
I'm looking at the LG R watch now. It's $50 more, and is missing a bunch of features, but the screen is GREAT. :'-(
I really wanted to like this watch! Please XDA, talk me into keeping it!!
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The LG P-OLED screen can burn in... Otherwise I possibly had bought it aswell.
I love the sw3 and especially the ambient mode screen and GPS. Its looks like a compromise between a e-ink and LCD..
But maybe it's a kind of different tastes.
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The LG P-OLED screen can burn in... Otherwise I possibly had bought it aswell
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Good point about the burn-in. I just searched over on the LG R watch forums and there's some horror stories of burn-in after just a week. :-o That may be a deal-breaker for me.
Hah! You may have talked me into staying on SW3 just as I requested - thanks! :highfive:
It's a garbage screen on a first-gen looking product. I returned mine for the same reason.
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It's a garbage screen on a first-gen looking product. I returned mine for the same reason.
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I haven't gotten mine yet but have played with it in store. I wouldn't say it's garbage. Is it on par with other android wear devices? Probably not. However, just as another user stated above, its sort of a mix between e ink and color. It seems to be helping to deliver great battery life with it too. Also, with the update it seems you guys can turn off the feature of activating the screen arm movement. So with this screen you can leave it on always on mode and still be able to see the screen without killing battery. All the android wear devices are first gen tech, but the Sony SW 3 still offers so much more than any of the other watches. For that, I can certainly deal with the screen negatives. Even though it does offer positives so its not completely bad, therefore back to my point that I wouldn't call it garbage.
I like the screen...in my office or while outdoor, I can look at it at any time and almost any angle and can see the time w/o artifiially tilting my arm, or pressing a button. The screen is always on and I get easly 2 days...that is worth a lot to me. My 2 cents....
No matter how you look at it the pro's outweigh the con's.And if you can't live with then just return it and I'll keep mine.
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No matter how you look at it the pro's outweigh the con's.And if you can't live with then just return it and I'll keep mine.
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+1 :good:
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The LG P-OLED screen can burn in... Otherwise I possibly had bought it aswell.
I love the sw3 and especially the ambient mode screen and GPS. Its looks like a compromise between a e-ink and LCD..
But maybe it's a kind of different tastes.
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Good point. It's a major flaw of OLED screen. SW3's transflective screen is the perfect choice for ambient mode. It's more readable in bright sunlight. Honestly, transflective LCD is born for outside activities.
I got my first SW3. The screen is too yellow with a small dark spot at the bottom of the screen. I returned it immediately and now the 2nd one is really good.
I disagree. Try taking your smartphone and let the sun shine on the screen (or a bright lamp) and lower the brightness. The whites and blacks will be very similar in color to the SW3's screen. I'm currently using the Odyssey watchface and sometimes it takes a while for the full watchface to turn on so I get the opportunity to seen the ambient screen with the backlight on. Whites are white on it. What I would like is for the ambient light sensor to turn on the backlight at minimal brightness in low light conditions.
my device is very white. It is of course no OLED screen that are over saturated mostly but i definetly see no yellow tint there on white (maybe a really tiny bit more yellowish but really nothing i notice at all in normal use).
And having the watch always on is such a huge + in my opinion. Yes you can't see the screen in low light situations. But honestly.
People are never happy. When the backlight would be always on some people would complain that the watch is always making light in the dark.
(which would annoy me probably more)
If you want correctly displayed colors you would need to calibrate your screens.
Who does that for home usage here?
It's definitely not first gen. I had first gen smartwatch from Sony, this one is ten times better
I would like the option for a low backlight on low light (current low backlight settings are too bright to begin with). I suppose that's what custom ROMs/root apps are for.
I like it on mine. The default faces are pretty bad on it in ambient mode, but I built ones for it on Facer that make it really easy to read.
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I would like the option for a low backlight on low light (current low backlight settings are too bright to begin with). I suppose that's what custom ROMs/root apps are for.
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I'm not sure if you had something like this in mind ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57615301 ) ...but I'm using this app and it lets me lower the brightness down to where it's much more comfortable for using my watch in bed at night. The developer is letting us try it out for free until 12/21... but I went ahead and bought it for a buck from the Play Store.
Grown to love ambient mode, except for complete darkness I can read the watch fine.
I have a Gear Live, try to go out in the sun and read the time, this watch no problem.
I purchased Facer, made myself a digital watch face with huge numbers that makes the watch even more visible in direct sun
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I disagree. Try taking your smartphone and let the sun shine on the screen (or a bright lamp) and lower the brightness. The whites and blacks will be very similar in color to the SW3's screen. I'm currently using the Odyssey watchface and sometimes it takes a while for the full watchface to turn on so I get the opportunity to seen the ambient screen with the backlight on. Whites are white on it. What I would like is for the ambient light sensor to turn on the backlight at minimal brightness in low light conditions.
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Agreed! I live in Florida (the sunshine state) and spend lots of time outdoors. Our days are long, it's almost always sunny, and the sun is INTENSE! I got this watch specifically because of this display. Try reading an OLED display outdoors in Florida sun. Even my Note4 with its high-brightness outdoor mode is barely readable. Yet my SW3 is clear as day, with or without the backlight. Yes, it definitely doesn't look as pretty indoors as the OLED screens, but for my use its perfect. Not like I'm watching movies on it or anything. I'm glad Sony decided to carry over the transflective tech from the SW2...it was a bold move but it's one of the things that sets this product apart. If you don't like it, there are plenty of competing products on the market.
I just wish there was a way to disable the backlight under any ambient light conditions, like my SW2. One of the firmware updates for the SW2 introduced a smarter backlight that stayed off, even when in use, when there was enough ambient light, like outdoors. While it makes no difference in appearance, it helps conserve battery.
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Good point. It's a major flaw of OLED screen. SW3's transflective screen is the perfect choice for ambient mode. It's more readable in bright sunlight. Honestly, transflective LCD is born for outside activities.
I got my first SW3. The screen is too yellow with a small dark spot at the bottom of the screen. I returned it immediately and now the 2nd one is really good.
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Transflective screens are also installed on all Garmin outdoor standalone GPS: if you want a well readable screen on EVERY situation you need a transfective.... NOT a AMOLED.
Amoled is much contrasted and wonderful on artificial light or on low natural light, but is a pain during summer outdoor activity (and need maximum power consumption to be barely readable)
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Transflective screens are also installed on all Garmin outdoor standalone GPS: if you want a well readable screen on EVERY situation you need a transfective.... NOT a AMOLED.
Amoled is much contrasted and wonderful on artificial light or on low natural light, but is a pain during summer outdoor activity (and need maximum power consumption to be barely readable)
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The transflective display is one of the big selling points of this watch if you ask me. It's visible in pretty much any light except very low. I don't have to turn the backlight on to see it (saves battery) and it's viewable in direct sunlight. This is a huge plus for anyone taking this thing out for runs or bike rides. I'm a long distance runner and use this watch exclusively for tracking and music, it works great!
The screen on the Sony Smartwatch 3 is the best, hands the fak down!! Always on and viewable, just as watch suppose to be.
Its comical sporting a watch thats turned off until you put it up in front of your grill to turn ON...gayness to the fullest.
I have a Ray-Ban polarized sunglass.
When I was looking a the screen in portrait mode it looks fine....
But in landscape mode the screen is invisible... Looks like the screen is off. Very strange....
How come is that? Never had that with HTC or other device.
Something to do with screen filter?
I dont have a technical answer but It is due to the way polarized lenses filter and the way the screen is made. It happens with every ips LCD screen I've used. I know you say it didn't happen on your htc but it did to me w my m7. Interestingly, it happens on my wife's iPhone in portrait.
As mentioned, it happens with polarized sunglasses. LCD screens polarize the light. The screens are built so they are viewable in one orientation with polarized glasses. Unavoidably, if you rotate the screen left/right 90 degrees, the light becomes blocked by polarized glasses.
OLED screens (such as used on my Galaxy S3) do not work the same way (they don't polarize the light), so they do not exhibit this behavior.
You'll likely see this phenomenon with any LCD screen (even a B&W display on something like a digital kitchen timer/clock, etc) and polarized glasses.
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I have a Ray-Ban polarized sunglass.
When I was looking a the screen in portrait mode it looks fine....
But in landscape mode the screen is invisible... Looks like the screen is off. Very strange....
How come is that? Never had that with HTC or other device.
Something to do with screen filter?
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LOL I just noticed the same thing yesterday when I drove into the City then back home. And I was going to post about it now. LOL. I'm my case it took about half hour while driving that I noticed it was due to the glasses. First thought the screen has an issue. but its just as you say, its polarized sunglasses. Weird!!
With the M7 it's not the case... So that's why I was ver surprised....
The nexus 7 2013 has the same "issue".
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Yup, in landscape mode. It's viewable in portrait mode using polarized glasses.
I have had this issue with every DSLR camera screen I've ever shot with also - in addition to every phone I've had. Like stated, it's got something to do with the way the sunglass lens filters light.
I just got this screen protector that completely eliminates the issue - landscape is now no different than portrait through polarized sunglasses.
I where polarized sunglasses. With all my previous phones, I've never had a problem with polarized sunglasses. With the new Note 10+, the screen is very difficult to read. And as I rotate the screen, I get different shading going from dark to very washed out. Almost impossible to read the screen. Has anyone else had any problems with polarized sunglasses? Any solutions? (besides not wearing polarized glasses)
Hi,
a lot of smartphone use a polarized technology to enhance the display. Including iPhones...
If you do not want to, or cannot, remove your glasses, the only way is changing phone and testing it before.
Sorry
I have seen something like you describe, but with those privacy glass protectors, some make the screen look of at certain angles not just at the outmost angles that suposedly the should work, some even make the screen look stripped, in your case, try with some other polarized eyeglasses, in the end, it is somewhat expected, as the polarization alters the light coming into the eye
I noticed that with polarized glasses the screen has almost a prism effect where I can see a lot of different colors. Most notably the left and right curved edges of the screen turn solid green. My Note 9 looked dimmer with polarized glasses on but never gave off the colors I see with this phone.
Yeah I have aura black on the back and aura glow on the front lol
Take a look here
Part of what you are seeing may be the stress pattern in the gorrila glass. Polarized light>glass>polarized glasses.
Solid plastic (and especially tempered glass) exhibit this effect as well however soft plastic protectors will not.
When I look at my note 8 screen when I have my polarized sunglasses on oh, it looks basically the same. With the note 10 the screen has a rose hue. Kind of a bummer
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When I look at my note 8 screen when I have my polarized sunglasses on oh, it looks basically the same. With the note 10 the screen has a rose hue. Kind of a bummer
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I noticed that too. I can barely see the screen with my sunglasses on now. I wonder why it changed?
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When I look at my note 8 screen when I have my polarized sunglasses on oh, it looks basically the same. With the note 10 the screen has a rose hue. Kind of a bummer
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I noticed that too. I can barely see the screen with my sunglasses on now. I wonder why it changed?
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The screen is new technology versus the Note 8 or Note 9. I remember the big issue with the S8 and Note 8 was the pink tinted screen. Not so much with the Notes, but a few people had it. So they changed the screen for the Note 9.
Well this year, the big push is reduction of blue light. This screen emits almost no blue light, yet maintains near perfect color accuracy. Something tells me that has something to do with the effect you're seeing with polarized glasses.
I remember older phones, polarized glasses would turn the screen into a rainbow of colors you couldn't even see through.