Just wondering if anyone has the new version yet and knows if the screen is polarized and if so, in what direction. I have a first gen that I got a while ago that is destined for an install in my car. However the screen is invisible in landscape mode with polarized sunglasses so I've been holding off installing it.
No no that's not a feature of the screen, if the screen were polarized in a specific direction that would make the viewing angles horrible. You'd only want to view the device in that direction.
Your sunglasses are basically blocking out any incident light so it really shouldn't matter what device you use you're going to get the same result
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No no that's not a feature of the screen, if the screen were polarized in a specific direction that would make the viewing angles horrible. You'd only want to view the device in that direction.
Your sunglasses are basically blocking out any incident light so it really shouldn't matter what device you use you're going to get the same result
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So just to confirm, the screen in the new gen isn't polarized like the last?
FWIW the polarization doesn't affect viewing angles, it affects what rotations the screen can be viewed (if you are wearing polarized glasses). Sorry to nitpick about wording if that's what you meant. Also I have no idea what you meant by the last statement or how it applies to this question.
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So just to confirm, the screen in the new gen isn't polarized like the last?
FWIW the polarization doesn't affect viewing angles, it affects what rotations the screen can be viewed (if you are wearing polarized glasses). Sorry to nitpick about wording if that's what you meant. Also I have no idea what you meant by the last statement or how it applies to this question.
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To simply answer you question.......The new N7 is the same. Cant see anything in landscape and portrait viewing is unaffected by polarized glasses.
Well that sucks but thanks for the info. All the other mobile devices I have are at least polarized on a 45 degree angle so they can be used in either direction... albeit dimmed quite a bit. I'm a little surprised Google didn't do this.
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Well that sucks but thanks for the info. All the other mobile devices I have are at least polarized on a 45 degree angle so they can be used in either direction... albeit dimmed quite a bit. I'm a little surprised Google didn't do this.
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You can buy your own polarization films to have the same or even better effects.
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You can buy your own polarization films to have the same or even better effects.
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At the risk of spreading misinformation... yes there are polarizing films you could put on but it would not have better effects. As I've been informed the polarization of this display is unchanged from the original N7, or polarized in portrait mode in the long axis. Adding a polarizing film at 45 degrees will not repolarize the display to that axis, but will block some of the light coming from the display... only guessing here but probably block approx 50% when viewed naked eye. When viewing through polarized glass like sunglasses the result would still be the same polarization, except what ever you see would be dimmed by the amount that the polarizing film subtracted. I assume there would be a bit of scatter from the film that would randomize the polarization that would negate the effect a bit but I doubt it would be noticeable.
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Just got my Verizon nexus, loving it so far. Ditched my 4s, no regrets. I'm pretty ocd about these sorts of things, so I had a question. My screen is gorgeous, but there seems to be an extremely faint green tint on the curved part of the screen. It is most visible with the brightness turned down, and practically invisible with brightness up. It is similar to the slight green shift I see when I look at the rest of the display off-angle, which leads me to think the tint is caused by viewing angle on the curve. I know amoled screens can have tinting problems, and have seen ones with that issue, but the location and nature of this tint makes me think the curve is the culprit. Has anyone else noticed the curve affecting viewing angle/tint? Thanks!
Probably due to refraction caused by the curvature.
That's what I was thinking, but I found it strange no one had mentioned it anywhere (as far as I can find). Although after looking through the screen normal/not normal sticky, I think I should stop worrying about it and count my blessings.
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Heh, yep. It actually sounds like you got a good phone if that's all you can find wrong. I think you'll completely forget about it within a few days. And congratulations and welcome to the gnex world.
I have a Ray-Ban polarized sunglass.
When I was looking a the screen in portrait mode it looks fine....
But in landscape mode the screen is invisible... Looks like the screen is off. Very strange....
How come is that? Never had that with HTC or other device.
Something to do with screen filter?
I dont have a technical answer but It is due to the way polarized lenses filter and the way the screen is made. It happens with every ips LCD screen I've used. I know you say it didn't happen on your htc but it did to me w my m7. Interestingly, it happens on my wife's iPhone in portrait.
As mentioned, it happens with polarized sunglasses. LCD screens polarize the light. The screens are built so they are viewable in one orientation with polarized glasses. Unavoidably, if you rotate the screen left/right 90 degrees, the light becomes blocked by polarized glasses.
OLED screens (such as used on my Galaxy S3) do not work the same way (they don't polarize the light), so they do not exhibit this behavior.
You'll likely see this phenomenon with any LCD screen (even a B&W display on something like a digital kitchen timer/clock, etc) and polarized glasses.
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I have a Ray-Ban polarized sunglass.
When I was looking a the screen in portrait mode it looks fine....
But in landscape mode the screen is invisible... Looks like the screen is off. Very strange....
How come is that? Never had that with HTC or other device.
Something to do with screen filter?
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LOL I just noticed the same thing yesterday when I drove into the City then back home. And I was going to post about it now. LOL. I'm my case it took about half hour while driving that I noticed it was due to the glasses. First thought the screen has an issue. but its just as you say, its polarized sunglasses. Weird!!
With the M7 it's not the case... So that's why I was ver surprised....
The nexus 7 2013 has the same "issue".
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The Nexus 7 2013 has the same "issue".
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Yup, in landscape mode. It's viewable in portrait mode using polarized glasses.
I have had this issue with every DSLR camera screen I've ever shot with also - in addition to every phone I've had. Like stated, it's got something to do with the way the sunglass lens filters light.
I just got this screen protector that completely eliminates the issue - landscape is now no different than portrait through polarized sunglasses.
I noticed with both my Nexus 6 and my LG G4 (and I think the old Nexus 5, as well) that if you turn the phone so the screen is horizontal and wear polarized glasses, the screen appears completely dark. Can someone with the 5X please throw some polarized glasses on, turn the phone sideways and let us know if you can see the screen or not?
It may sound silly but if the above is an issue, it is an absolute deal breaker for me since I always use my phone horizontally for navigation while it's in my car.
Curious to the answer to this as well. My Sony Z3 acts the same way, so I use navigation in portrait mode.
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Well, it's an LCD screen, so there's bound to be some orientation where the screen's dark if you have polarized sunglasses on. I'll check for you when I get my phone in a day or two.
Yeah, I learned to use my nexus 5 in portrait while navigating. It's not so bad once you're used to it.
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Well, it's an LCD screen, so there's bound to be some orientation where the screen's dark if you have polarized sunglasses on. I'll check for you when I get my phone in a day or two.
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That's what I was afraid of. Looking forward to your update.
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Yeah, I learned to use my nexus 5 in portrait while navigating. It's not so bad once you're used to it.
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Can't do it. Horizontally, these phones fit perfectly in a little cubby, right in front of the shifter. If I tried to use the phone in portrait mode I'd have to pick it up and hold it rather than utilizing the cubby to keep the phone at a perfect angle for viewing for navigation and music.
Can confirm. Polarized glasses turn the screen black while in landscape mode. Just got my 5x today.
ditch the x5 because you'd rather not have ten dollar sunglasses for driving?
the reason I find this funny is that there are bmw and porsche boards with this same discussion. No Mister salesman, I don't want the heads up display, I just can't see it with my P ray bans on. lol.
I'm not trying to be a ****, I think it's funny, and of course, everyone needs a hobby.
carry on brother.
Horizontal, the phone is dark when using polarized sunglasses. Buy one of those universal phone holders to hold your phone near your steering wheel in a vertical position.
I had this same question the other day. My phone arrives tomorrow and was really hoping it wouldn't be an issue. Grrrr.
And no, I don't wear cheap drug store polarized sunglasses. They're good quality frames with my progressive bifocal prescription. Cost several hundred Yankee greenbacks.
Your day is coming, youngster. 8^)
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I had this same question the other day. My phone arrives tomorrow and was really hoping it wouldn't be an issue. Grrrr.
And no, I don't wear cheap drug store polarized sunglasses. They're good quality frames with my progressive bifocal prescription. Cost several hundred Yankee greenbacks.
Your day is coming, youngster. 8^)
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Love it! I was drawn into this thread. My oneplus one is the same exact way, sideways with glasses on trying to take a pic... nope, the screen glass is polarized so it's black, too.
It's not that the screen glass is polarized - it's just how LCD screens work. All light they output is polarized. Unless you get an AMOLED screen (my past phone, the Galaxy Nexus, had one) then your phone will always be dark in landscape when you have polarized sunglasses on.
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It's not that the screen glass is polarized - it's just how LCD screens work. All light they output is polarized. Unless you get an AMOLED screen (my past phone, the Galaxy Nexus, had one) then your phone will always be dark in landscape when you have polarized sunglasses on.
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Interesting, never thought LCD vs AMOLED. I'm glad I ordered the 6P then. Good note to stay away from LCD, cause I swear by polarized sunglasses. Thanks for the tip! :good::good:
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Interesting, never thought LCD vs AMOLED. I'm glad I ordered the 6P then. Good note to stay away from LCD, cause I swear by polarized sunglasses. Thanks for the tip! :good::good:
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AMOLED isn't perfect with this either. There may be differences between implementations but my galaxy S4 is dim with weird angle-dependent rainbow shimmering from ALL angles when wearing my beloved polarized sunglasses, distracting to the extent that I would often take them off when using my phone for more than a minute.
Coming from that I'm actually stoked that my 5X looks perfect in portrait mode because that's the way I use it most of the time when out and about.
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AMOLED isn't perfect with this either. There may be differences between implementations but my galaxy S4 was dim with weird angle-dependent rainbow shimmering from ALL angles when wearing my beloved polarized sunglasses, distracting to the extent that I would often take them off when using my phone for more than a minute.
Coming from that I'm actually stoked that my 5X looks perfect in portrait mode because that's the way I use it most of the time when out and about.
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Woah, I thought it was just all the mushrooms I did in college that made me see that faint rainbow thing on the S4. Woah man! Wait, it might that you did certain things in college that you haven't disclosed too!
Different glasses are polarized differently. A good glasses/lens shop will be able to customize the angle on your polarization to help eliminate problems if you are having them.
Fired up the GNex last nite, and yes the screen is fine while wearing my sunglasses. If I'd have known I might have given more consideration to the 6P.
But ... nope. Can't hang with a phablet.
A tempered-glass screen protector will scatter the polarization so that the phone can be used from any angle.
I where polarized sunglasses. With all my previous phones, I've never had a problem with polarized sunglasses. With the new Note 10+, the screen is very difficult to read. And as I rotate the screen, I get different shading going from dark to very washed out. Almost impossible to read the screen. Has anyone else had any problems with polarized sunglasses? Any solutions? (besides not wearing polarized glasses)
Hi,
a lot of smartphone use a polarized technology to enhance the display. Including iPhones...
If you do not want to, or cannot, remove your glasses, the only way is changing phone and testing it before.
Sorry
I have seen something like you describe, but with those privacy glass protectors, some make the screen look of at certain angles not just at the outmost angles that suposedly the should work, some even make the screen look stripped, in your case, try with some other polarized eyeglasses, in the end, it is somewhat expected, as the polarization alters the light coming into the eye
I noticed that with polarized glasses the screen has almost a prism effect where I can see a lot of different colors. Most notably the left and right curved edges of the screen turn solid green. My Note 9 looked dimmer with polarized glasses on but never gave off the colors I see with this phone.
Yeah I have aura black on the back and aura glow on the front lol
Take a look here
Part of what you are seeing may be the stress pattern in the gorrila glass. Polarized light>glass>polarized glasses.
Solid plastic (and especially tempered glass) exhibit this effect as well however soft plastic protectors will not.
Hello,
Today when taking photos I've noticed that light sources like lightbulbs and chandeliers appear twice in photo. It's hard to describe, but attached photos should clarify what I'm talking about.
I've checked on other phone, Honor 8X and it's same.
And here's my question to you: do you observe the same behaviour, or my device is flawed?
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Hello,
Today when taking photos I've noticed that light sources like lightbulbs and chandeliers appear twice in photo. It's hard to describe, but attached photos should clarify what I'm talking about.
I've checked on other phone, Honor 8X and it's same.
And here's my question to you: do you observe the same behaviour, or my device is flawed?
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That's odd....I have to see if my phone does the same.
Are you on Auto mode?
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That's odd....I have to see if my phone does the same.
Are you on Auto mode?
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Yes, I'm on Auto. I've gone also through pro mode settings, but none of them seem to reduce it.
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Yes, I'm on Auto. I've gone also through pro mode settings, but none of them seem to reduce it.
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And Honor 8x does the same? Thought that the camera lenses cover has some reflecting residue like oil etc...it is strange.
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And Honor 8x does the same? Thought that the camera lenses cover has some reflecting residue like oil etc...it is strange.
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Yes, Honor does the same. Actually I've just checked LG V30 and Huawei P10 Lite, and it's almost the same.
I'm kinda shocked I haven't noticed it before.
Can you please check on your phones?
I don't know if it's worth using warranty with my Note 10+ if it's the general issue.
I took a direct photo of my desk lamp and there's nothing wrong, I'll try again later tonight using different angles/sources.
I googled it and this problem is widely commented on:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=phone+camera+ghost+reflections+of+light+sources
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I took a direct photo of my desk lamp and there's nothing wrong, I'll try again later tonight using different angles/sources.
I googled it and this problem is widely commented on:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=phone+camera+ghost+reflections+of+light+sources
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Thank you for the link. So it seems like this can be considered "normal".
However I'm still curious what will be result of your tests. Please share what was the outcome, whether you were able to reproduce this.
It depends on the angle, sometimes you will see this, some times not, I have seen this in dedicated cameras as well
Thank you for your response.
As I'm testing it more, it seems very hard to take photo without ghost lights when not pointing straight into light source, attached few more sample files.
Maybe I'll get over it, if not I'll give it a go, and use warranty, they'll do something with this or not.
Hello,
That's amazing to see this post today, just the day i noticed exactely the same.
I noticed that when doing a video test, through windows stores (the room was in the dark, light going thru the little holes in the stores). I had exactely the same kind of little lights reproduced in the left quarter of the frame.
I thought it was due to the shape of the lens, some kind of light reflexion on it, but now i am wondering because that is the EXACT same thing as your description.
I would not send to warranty... since i had exactely the same 'problem'. I believe it is due to lens design.
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Hello,
That's amazing to see this post today, just the day i noticed exactely the same.
I noticed that when doing a video test, through windows stores (the room was in the dark, light going thru the little holes in the stores). I had exactely the same kind of little lights reproduced in the left quarter of the frame.
I thought it was due to the shape of the lens, some kind of light reflexion on it, but now i am wondering because that is the EXACT same thing as your description.
I would not send to warranty... since i had exactely the same 'problem'. I believe it is due to lens design.
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I believe you have the same, but don't know how often you see these lights.
I can understand this can be seen in some conditions, but as I'm testing it more, I almost can't take any photo without it.
I've looked through YouTube reviews with some night shots and can't see it there.
Attaching last two samples, to not spam this thread, as maybe I'm now oversensitive on this
I'll go to the store today, and see what they'll say.
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Thank you for the link. So it seems like this can be considered "normal".
However I'm still curious what will be result of your tests. Please share what was the outcome, whether you were able to reproduce this.
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Went on tonight to my favorite night photography places and the full moon was the perfect source of light to look into the "ghosting" thing. It's really easy to see what's happening with the light when moving the camera around its axis. Note 10 has a rather thick glass covering/protecting the lenses and the light entering the camera is being distorted by the inner and outer surfaces of the glass plate depending on the angle of entry.
I was having really boring Sunday today so I'm glad I found something to do because of that, and I even made a little drawing using the S-Pen(love the s-pen!) to illustrate directional changes of light while entering/exiting a medium of different densities (air/glass)
We know that light will get reflected by a glass at certain degree because of different density between air and glass. Basic physics. Our camera is made of multiple layers of lens with variables angle. So if 99% of light goes through the lens, 1% get reflected. We won't see it for normal light. But if the light source is very bright, even 1% will be visible on photo.
That's my hypothesis.
Happens all the time when facing a lamp light directly, with wide and zoom lens. But seems to be less visible with ultra-wide.
This looks like an internal reflection within the camera it's self.
Internal reflections are common on multi-element lens.
You pay big bucks for coated elements and engineering to suppress this effect in pro lens.
Internal reflections can also happen between the cmos sensor and any of the internal optics.
In the case the cover element is a prime suspect.
Lol, you can thousands for a pro shooting system and you will still find this.