Writing to External SDCard issues - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Some apps like Tubemate and Doggcatcher can't write on the external sdcard, at least in the folders I tell them to. They can only write on their default path. ex: storage/external_SD/Android/data/doggcatcher/
Titanium Backup doesn't let me backup to the external sdcard at all!
Is this normal?

Hello,
If your G4 is root, try this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60417230&postcount=2

For Titanium Backup try to change storage provider to Document Provider instead of Filesystem.

baptiste28 said:
Hello,
If your G4 is root, try this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60417230&postcount=2
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Thank you, I'm gonna try that.
hikku13 said:
For Titanium Backup try to change storage provider to Document Provider instead of Filesystem.
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Spot on. It worked! Thanks a lot.

hikku13 said:
For Titanium Backup try to change storage provider to Document Provider instead of Filesystem.
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Hmm, where is that setting in Titanium Backup? I found it but it seems when I select that, I then choose select SDCard at the bottom and then it changes to External Storage after I select the backup directory, is that what it's supposed to do? With the latest version of Titanium Backup, it seems there is a bug, backup will work fine but if you reload the app, it will just show a check mark next to the backups and when you click in the app and look at the backup, it shows just a checkmark with the date and time but when you click on it, it's a few hundred bytes.
What I found works is the XPosed module HandleExternalStorage:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-handleexternalstorage-t2693521

Above the Detect buttton in Backup folder location screen, you'll see storage provider, just click on it (though its a text not a buton, but its clickable)

hikku13 said:
Above the Detect buttton in Backup folder location screen, you'll see storage provider, just click on it (though its a text not a buton, but its clickable)
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Yes, finally found it, when you click on it, it's supposed to let you choose between Internal and SDCard, the later which is the external SDCard, after that, you choose Select SDCard in Titanium Backup in the bottom and then it goes back to the same Backup folder location screen where you select the folder to backup to, I choose TitaniumBackup which is the existing folder and it shows the 561 backups but then the document provider changes to External Storage., is that how it is on yours?
It seems like all my backups after October 11, 2015 is not working. With the latest version of Titanium Backup, it seems there is a bug, backup will work fine but if you reload the app, it will just show a check mark next to the backups and when you click in the app and look at the backup, it shows just a checkmark with the date and time but when you click on it, it's a few hundred bytes.

Almighty1 said:
Yes, finally found it, when you click on it, it's supposed to let you choose between Internal and SDCard, the later which is the external SDCard, after that, you choose Select SDCard in Titanium Backup in the bottom and then it goes back to the same Backup folder location screen where you select the folder to backup to, I choose TitaniumBackup which is the existing folder and it shows the 561 backups but then the document provider changes to External Storage., is that how it is on yours?
It seems like all my backups after October 11, 2015 is not working. With the latest version of Titanium Backup, it seems there is a bug, backup will work fine but if you reload the app, it will just show a check mark next to the backups and when you click in the app and look at the backup, it shows just a checkmark with the date and time but when you click on it, it's a few hundred bytes.
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I'm still using older ver 7.2.1.2 so I dont know about the new version. In my case, its all working fine. I had factory reset my phone a week ago, and had restored all backups (backed up before the reset), and all data restored in place. Nothing went wrong.

hikku13 said:
I'm still using older ver 7.2.1.2 so I dont know about the new version. In my case, its all working fine. I had factory reset my phone a week ago, and had restored all backups (backed up before the reset), and all data restored in place. Nothing went wrong.
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7.2.1.2 was the version that came out in July. I know 7.2.2 worked fine as it appears my backups started failing after October 11, 2015 which means either 7.2.3 or 7.2.4 broke it as I manually update apps on Google Play Store so I could still have been using 7.2.2 on October 11, 2015. One thing I noticed is on both the G4 and my Motorola Droid Razr Maxx HD, both Verizon Wireless that if the phone starts rebooting on it's own, one just needs to boot to safe mode, uninstall and reinstall Titanium Backup and it'll fix it. Anyways, this is what happens:
1) I delete all existing backups for a app
2) I then click on backup and it backs up showing the yellow happy face on the right hand side of Titanium Backup for the app with the timestamp of 10/19/2015 at 4:08AM as I did one now just to reproduce this. I click on the app's name and it shows the backup. I click on the backup and Backup Properties shows:
Backup made of phone/ROM:
VS986 (VS986eaeda7e6)
Android 5.1
p1_vzw-user 5.1 LMY47D 151281816b0bd
release-keys
Backup properties:
Total size: 24.5kB
Has app: (checkmark) YES (codec = GZIP)
Has data: (checkmark) YES (codec = GZIP)
Has External Date: (X) NO
3) I reload Titanium Backup:Instead of the yellow happy face for the app, there is a checkmark in a circle on the right hand side of Titanium Backup for the app. I click on the app's name and the backup of 10/19/2015 at 4:08AM shows a check with a circle with a ? next to it. I noticed that the
Backup Properties shows:
Backup made on phone/ROM:
Unknown (Unknown)
Android Unknown
Unknown
Backup properties:
Total size: 4.55kB
Has app: (X) NO
Has data: 4 (checkmark) YES (codec = GZIP)
Has External Date: (X) NO
I look in /storage/external_SD/Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup with Root Explorer and it shows three files:
appname-datestamp.properties - 4.32K
appname-datestamp.tar.gz - 131 Bytes
appname-*.apk.gz - 19.55K
I just hope it isn't the 200GB MicroSD Card failing. As what is weird is that the newest backup that I made will disappear and I will get back the backup I deleted. What is more weird is that the directory /storage/external_SD/Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup no longer exists as it is known as /storage/external_SD/TitaniumBackup once again.

Almighty1 said:
7.2.1.2 was the version that came out in July. I know 7.2.2 worked fine as it appears my backups started failing after October 11, 2015 which means either 7.2.3 or 7.2.4 broke it as I manually update apps on Google Play Store so I could still have been using 7.2.2 on October 11, 2015. One thing I noticed is on both the G4 and my Motorola Droid Razr Maxx HD, both Verizon Wireless that if the phone starts rebooting on it's own, one just needs to boot to safe mode, uninstall and reinstall Titanium Backup and it'll fix it. Anyways, this is what happens:
1) I delete all existing backups for a app
2) I then click on backup and it backs up showing the yellow happy face on the right hand side of Titanium Backup for the app with the timestamp of 10/19/2015 at 4:08AM as I did one now just to reproduce this. I click on the app's name and it shows the backup. I click on the backup and Backup Properties shows:
Backup made of phone/ROM:
VS986 (VS986eaeda7e6)
Android 5.1
p1_vzw-user 5.1 LMY47D 151281816b0bd
release-keys
Backup properties:
Total size: 24.5kB
Has app: (checkmark) YES (codec = GZIP)
Has data: (checkmark) YES (codec = GZIP)
Has External Date: (X) NO
3) I reload Titanium Backup:Instead of the yellow happy face for the app, there is a checkmark in a circle on the right hand side of Titanium Backup for the app. I click on the app's name and the backup of 10/19/2015 at 4:08AM shows a check with a circle with a ? next to it. I noticed that the
Backup Properties shows:
Backup made on phone/ROM:
Unknown (Unknown)
Android Unknown
Unknown
Backup properties:
Total size: 4.55kB
Has app: (X) NO
Has data: 4 (checkmark) YES (codec = GZIP)
Has External Date: (X) NO
I look in /storage/external_SD/Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup with Root Explorer and it shows three files:
appname-datestamp.properties - 4.32K
appname-datestamp.tar.gz - 131 Bytes
appname-*.apk.gz - 19.55K
I just hope it isn't the 200GB MicroSD Card failing. As what is weird is that the newest backup that I made will disappear and I will get back the backup I deleted. What is more weird is that the directory /storage/external_SD/Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup no longer exists as it is known as /storage/external_SD/TitaniumBackup once again.
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If you suspect the sdcard is the cause, have you had confirm it with another working sdcard? (Could it be its fake or faulty?) Fake and faulty card can cause data to dissapear even after "successfully" written.
And have you had confirm it with older TiBa? If TiBa is really the cause its better to send it to the developer as I cannot reproduce it with my older TiBa

hikku13 said:
If you suspect the sdcard is the cause, have you had confirm it with another working sdcard? (Could it be its fake or faulty?) Fake and faulty card can cause data to dissapear even after "successfully" written.
And have you had confirm it with older TiBa? If TiBa is really the cause its better to send it to the developer as I cannot reproduce it with my older TiBa
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It's not a fake card as it's from Best Buy and it's a 200GB card except these are made in China so there can always be failure as just like hard drives, some are more faulty than others depending on your luck. This is the card I have which has been used for 2 months:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A/dp/B00V62XBQQ
I already tried going back to 7.2.2 with getting the apk from apkmirrors.com and the problem still happens so it could be the card. I don't have another 200GB card but what I'm going to do is backup the card and reformat the card except I don't know what filesystem the phone formats the card in as the card was already formatted as exFat.

Almighty1 said:
It's not a fake card as it's from Best Buy and it's a 200GB card except these are made in China so there can always be failure as just like hard drives, some are more faulty than others depending on your luck. This is the card I have which has been used for 2 months:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A/dp/B00V62XBQQ
I already tried going back to 7.2.2 with getting the apk from apkmirrors.com and the problem still happens so it could be the card. I don't have another 200GB card but what I'm going to do is backup the card and reformat the card except I don't know what filesystem the phone formats the card in as the card was already formatted as exFat.
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Its too bad if the card is failing especially since its new and pricey. I guess it will be formatted to exFAT. Better format it in Windows (I ever heard formatting inside the device cannot fix the card while formatting from Windows able to fix it). Its better to check throughly unless it still under warranty and get replacement.

hikku13 said:
Its too bad if the card is failing especially since its new and pricey. I guess it will be formatted to exFAT. Better format it in Windows (I ever heard formatting inside the device cannot fix the card while formatting from Windows able to fix it). Its better to check throughly unless it still under warranty and get replacement.
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Seems like it's the card as I tried:
E:\sd-card>xcopy G:\*.* /S /E /V
what happens is it will copy the files and then when it gets to a certain file in the Titanium Backup folder, the card seems to disappear from the computer so I'm trying to see how else I can backup the contents of the card. It has a 10 year warranty, just wonder what is the warranty procedure and I wonder can they do a advance replacement as it's possible for hard drives.

Almighty1 said:
Seems like it's the card as I tried:
E:\sd-card>xcopy G:\*.* /S /E /V
what happens is it will copy the files and then when it gets to a certain file in the Titanium Backup folder, the card seems to disappear from the computer so I'm trying to see how else I can backup the contents of the card. It has a 10 year warranty, just wonder what is the warranty procedure and I wonder can they do a advance replacement as it's possible for hard drives.
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Why dont you try copy using MTP with explorer with the card inside the device? Or use Total Commander with ADB plugin? Via FTP (through ES file explorer's remote manager)? Maybe a partition backup program that can do sector-by-sector backup?

hikku13 said:
Why dont you try copy using MTP with explorer with the card inside the device? Or use Total Commander with ADB plugin? Via FTP (through ES file explorer's remote manager)? Maybe a partition backup program that can do sector-by-sector backup?
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I think the problem with all the mentioned methods except the last one is it will not copy some stuff correctly which was the reason for the xcopy as mentioned here:
https://scootercomputers.wordpress....b-micro-sd-card-to-a-new-64-gb-micro-sd-card/
I can use HDDRawCopy but the thing is it will copy to a destination of the same size as the original so if I got a 512GB card for example, it will not work as there is no way to resize a exfat partition it seems, at least with Minitool Partition Wizard, it doesn't even know what the filesystem is. I deleted the file in Titanium Backup which is a backup of a game that was 600+ MB in size and I was able to xcopy the entire card as that file seems to be where XCopy will unmount and where surface scan in Minitool Partition Wizard will choke and somehow the MicroSD Card is no longer seen at that point as it thinks the card has a size of 0 at that point. HDDRawCopy choked on the same file as well and then the entire MicroSD card got unmounted.
What I noticed was weird is that the card has a 16MB unallocated space at the beginning and the rest was the 196GB, I wonder what is the 16MB for and why isn't everything just one partition?

Almighty1 said:
I think the problem with all the mentioned methods except the last one is it will not copy some stuff correctly which was the reason for the xcopy as mentioned here:
https://scootercomputers.wordpress....b-micro-sd-card-to-a-new-64-gb-micro-sd-card/
I can use HDDRawCopy but the thing is it will copy to a destination of the same size as the original so if I got a 512GB card for example, it will not work as there is no way to resize a exfat partition it seems, at least with Minitool Partition Wizard, it doesn't even know what the filesystem is. I deleted the file in Titanium Backup which is a backup of a game that was 600+ MB in size and I was able to xcopy the entire card as that file seems to be where XCopy will unmount and where surface scan in Minitool Partition Wizard will choke and somehow the MicroSD Card is no longer seen at that point as it thinks the card has a size of 0 at that point. HDDRawCopy choked on the same file as well and then the entire MicroSD card got unmounted.
What I noticed was weird is that the card has a 16MB unallocated space at the beginning and the rest was the 196GB, I wonder what is the 16MB for and why isn't everything just one partition?
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Well as I know xcopy will do recursive copy. And about cloning explained in that blog, of course its different matter. If you starting from zero, copying is enough for data but maybe not the apps and apps's data (and boot record for HDD), and maybe if you enabled encryption. And you need to restore from TiBa. But if you dont want to reset, clone might be the best and its faster to restore than copy-paste. I dont know apps that actually must need the same sector-by-sector with previous card unless maybe its encypted, cause I still use the same card and everything restored back through TiBa after factory reset. In this case all data are written back with (possibly) different memory block (logically with different card it shouldnt matter too).
Maybe its for cache? maybe all pre-formatted sdcard for android have that partition for optimization. I had formatted my card once, to FAT32 and lost that partition, it seems my battery drained so fast (perhaps also because of scanning n rebuilding media). Even after I format to exFAT my battery life never go back to as before. Maybe its just my bad instuition

hikku13 said:
Well as I know xcopy will do recursive copy. And about cloning explained in that blog, of course its different matter. If you starting from zero, copying is enough for data but maybe not the apps and apps's data (and boot record for HDD), and maybe if you enabled encryption. And you need to restore from TiBa. But if you dont want to reset, clone might be the best and its faster to restore than copy-paste. I dont know apps that actually must need the same sector-by-sector with previous card unless maybe its encypted, cause I still use the same card and everything restored back through TiBa after factory reset.
Maybe its for cache? maybe all pre-formatted sdcard for android have that partition for optimization. I had formatted my card once, to FAT32 and lost that partition, it seems my battery drained so fast (perhaps also because of scanning n rebuilding media). Even after I format to exFAT my battery life never go back to as before. Maybe its just my bad instuition
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Not sure what xcopy can do that the standard select and drop into folder cannot do as xcopy doesn't copy sector to sector either, maybe it's just the permissions of each file but I thought the standard drag and copy does the same thing? Clone didn't work as once it reaches that same file or sector, the microsd card would disappear from the system acting as if the card had 0 bytes for capacity. Same thing when I do a surface scan to test the drive, it seems only it hits that, the card gets unmounted and it thinks the entire card from that part on is all bad sectors.... it went from 800MB/sec to 11000MB/sec at that point. I thought unless you repartition the card, you will not lose that partition since format will only format the same space as before so you will still have the 16MB partition as before. It can't be used for cache either as it's a unallocated partition which means it's not even used or partitioned. I wonder how long does it take to format a 200GB card because it seems since my last response when I started the format, it has not really gotten much further yet, only moved a little.

Almighty1 said:
Not sure what xcopy can do that the standard select and drop into folder cannot do as xcopy doesn't copy sector to sector either, maybe it's just the permissions of each file but I thought the standard drag and copy does the same thing? Clone didn't work as once it reaches that same file or sector, the microsd card would disappear from the system acting as if the card had 0 bytes for capacity. Same thing when I do a surface scan to test the drive, it seems only it hits that, the card gets unmounted and it thinks the entire card from that part on is all bad sectors.... it went from 800MB/sec to 11000MB/sec at that point. I thought unless you repartition the card, you will not lose that partition since format will only format the same space as before so you will still have the 16MB partition as before. It can't be used for cache either as it's a unallocated partition which means it's not even used or partitioned. I wonder how long does it take to format a 200GB card because it seems since my last response when I started the format, it has not really gotten much further yet, only moved a little.
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Have you tried to see the partitions in Linux. Maybe its due to unsupported filesystem in windows. Maybe it takes a while especially if its not quick format. And if the card is broken, after a while it will say failed to format and leave the card kinda useless. I used to have two 8 GB sdcard (sandisk too) broken after 2 mo, it was like read only, and then failed to format. It happened twice with the same symptom and eventually i think i blamed the phone (bb pearl) and swore never use that phone again LOL.

hikku13 said:
Have you tried to see the partitions in Linux. Maybe its due to unsupported filesystem in windows. Maybe it takes a while especially if its not quick format. And if the card is broken, after a while it will say failed to format and leave the card kinda useless. I used to have two 8 GB sdcard (sandisk too) broken after 2 mo, it was like read only, and then failed to format. It happened twice with the same symptom and eventually i think i blamed the phone (bb pearl) and swore never use that phone again LOL.
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Haven't tried Linux yet, exfat is a Microsoft proprietary filesystem so it's supported, just that these partition utilities don't support it or something. I went to sleep and Windows reports that it was unable to complete the format so it looks like the card is bad, good thing I got all my data off after deleting the 3 files for the backup of the 650+MB game in the Titanium Backup folder. The 200GB card is so new that it probably has it's share of problems as it hasn't been used widely yet and always one of the things of getting the latest and greatest. I was wondering why the card was 200GB instead of 256GB since cards usually doubles in size from the previous capacity (1GB, 2GB, 4GB, 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB, 128GB), the card really is 256GB but only 200GB is usable as 56GB is used for buffering and other things according to the answer here:
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-SanDisks-famous-SD-card-200GB-and-not-256-or-another-multiple-of-8

Almighty1 said:
Haven't tried Linux yet, exfat is a Microsoft proprietary filesystem so it's supported, just that these partition utilities don't support it or something. I went to sleep and Windows reports that it was unable to complete the format so it looks like the card is bad, good thing I got all my data off after deleting the 3 files for the backup of the 650+MB game in the Titanium Backup folder. The 200GB card is so new that it probably has it's share of problems as it hasn't been used widely yet and always one of the things of getting the latest and greatest. I was wondering why the card was 200GB instead of 256GB since cards usually doubles in size from the previous capacity (1GB, 2GB, 4GB, 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB, 128GB), the card really is 256GB but only 200GB is usable as 56GB is used for buffering and other things according to the answer here:
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-SanDisks-famous-SD-card-200GB-and-not-256-or-another-multiple-of-8
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I know that exfat is ms proprietary, but what about that unallocated? Really unallocated or else?
Anyway, so its confirmed that the card is the culprit here and not by apps. Hope you get the replacement soon. Its too bad its broken already. I was thinking to upgrade my sdcard (I got 64 gb free from lg g4 promo), but maybe I'll postpone since I'm afraid hIgher and newly created capacity can be prone to error and fail (maybe luck factor to get bad card also involved).

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8GB MicroSDHC Card

Hi -
I purchased the 8GB MicroSDHC card from Verizon a week ago. It worked fine on my AT&T Tilt for a few days and than it lost all information! Fortunately, I was able to restore from backup, and it seems to be OK again. Here's the strange part: even though the original files and directories are gone, the card still counts them in used memory. I.e., the used memory is about 200 MB more than it should be, the amount of space I was using before the card crashed. This applies whether I check the memory on the device, connected by USB, or with the Card Adapter that came with the card.
Any ideas what might be causing this and how to recover the used memory short of reformatting the card?
Thanks!
If you could tell us what you did for it to crash it would help
You probably tried to partition it or something...?
Looks like you will have to format the whole card.
Maybe there is a simple way to do this but here is how i would do, if it helps :
- install WM5Storage on your PDA main memory
- start wm5storage with the option memory card and connect your PDA to your PC
Activsync then wont be sync'ing and your memory card will be seen from your PC as an USB-key. Open it on your PC and check to make sure it is your memory card that you see (and not your PDA main memory).
Then use whatever format tool to format your "USB key" with FAT like format, for example you can use HPtool (be carefull to format the key and not another drive !!!).
After this do not forget to turn off wm5storage, otherwise you will not be able to "see" the memory card on PDA side...
Hope it helps, let us know...
by the way maybe you could try this :
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
I've used it sometimes when i had started to format a hard drive instead of an usb key by mistake.
Windows was asking for formating everytime i wanted to open the hard drive folder. However, using this Testdisk tool, i was able to mount the hard drive and recover everything including my photos and music and stuff... Maybe you want to try this awesome tool, plus it is free and OpenSource.
Use wm5storage tool to use your PDA as an usb-key, then use Testdisk on this usb-drive, it might be able to see, list and recover all the "lost" files and heal the whole partition at same time.
Thanks for the suggestions - I'll post again when I have the chance to try them -
No luck
Had a similar problem with my Kaiser (HTC Rom). Yesterday I did something (don't know if it was memmaid - my guess, because otherwise I just installed some cabs I had previously installed in my Wizard with no problem) and my SanDisk 6 GB MicroSD was completely 'erased".
I just noticed after the Kaiser had created new folders over it (Application Data, Cookies, History and Temporary Intenet Folders). My assumption is that something destroyed my partition table (that's why I suspect memmaid, it may have cleaned something wrong) and now I have another partition over the old one.
I tried file recovery and found 1 GB good of files, but there were 5 Gigs on the card... I really wanted to find "program files" so I didn't have to re-install lots of stuff, but no luck.
Tried Testdisk as suggested above, but it never detects any partition, not even the current one. I guess I will have to reformat it and re-do all stuff.
Well, I may be saying lots of dumb stuff, but that's my guess.
Thanks if there is any possible help in this...
Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?
Guys need advise do you have to do any patch to be able to use 4-8GB mini SDHC card on your PDA?
I have a Asus P535. Have asked their support site and the reply I got is the max supported is only 4GB.
I believe I've read in more than one place that the Kaiser may support up to 32 Gig, which is the MicroSD maximum. But I may be wrong...
Fact is this has never happened with my Wizard and its 1 Gig MiniSD. Now I'm gonna increase backup and cloning so I don't have to reinstall everything...
But I'll check if there is a patch anyway. Thanks.
I am able to use Sandisk microSDHC 8GB can on Asus P535.
But need a micro adapter to miniSD
mbernstein said:
Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?
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Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -
Thanks. I tried that at the time to no avail. I did have to reformat, and then reinstall everything... Now I'm using Sprite Backup, so everything including Storage Card is backed up in case this thing happens again.
And/Or said:
Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -
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It could be WINXP patch
I have the Sandisk 8G , it came with a small USB reader and all was working fine. However my ASUS W5 laptop also has a built-in SD slot so I installed a patch issued by Microsoft to make it HCSD compatible, and it read and write it OK but then I suddenly got the same problem that you've described here.
The disk goes blank but the files still occupy the space, even attempting to reformat the card in the built-in slot will ignore that space,i.e it shows only 5G card.
But reformatting using the small USB card reader was fine and from now on I only use the cardreader to read and write and everything is OK. In my view the XP patch was causing that problem

New SD Card

I am changing from the 4gb sd card that came with my desire to a 16 gb one.
How do i get all my data from the old sd card to my new ?
Thank you in advance
hcgl said:
I am changing from the 4gb sd card that came with my desire to a 16 gb one.
How do i get all my data from the old sd card to my new ?
Thank you in advance
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connect the phone in "Disc Mode" copy all your data onto your computer, disconnect, change memory card to the new one, and copy and paste to the 16 gig.
Sorry I don't know any way of moving you games or apps when changing an SD card
hope this helps! good luck!
Wow, is it that easy, thanks a lot! Can someone help me about the games/apps ?
sorry to dig up this topic, but since I searched for it, here goes:
Same issue, I am changing from 8GB Micro SD to a 16GB micro SD, the catch: I am using A2SD+ and my previous 8GB has ext3 partition, so do I simply backup, change card and copy back the files or do I need to partition the new 16GB card like I did the old one, and then copy my backup?
if you want to save your ext as well, then this is best done via amon-ra recovery.
do a nandroid + ext backup of your rom with your old sd card.
put in a new sd card, formatted with ext, restore nandroid + ext then your rom and ext will be fine.
As for the fat you will have to copy as outlined above (via a pc).
Lennyuk said:
if you want to save your ext as well, then this is best done via amon-ra recovery.
do a nandroid + ext backup of your rom with your old sd card.
put in a new sd card, formatted with ext, restore nandroid + ext then your rom and ext will be fine.
As for the fat you will have to copy as outlined above (via a pc).
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isnt it that the the nandroid backup will be stored in the SD? if so then after I do a nandroid backup, place the new blank SD and do a nandroid restore, then if it looks for any backup, then it wouldnt find anything because the old card isnt there?
sorry i suck at this...
cyberkamote said:
isnt it that the the nandroid backup will be stored in the SD? if so then after I do a nandroid backup, place the new blank SD and do a nandroid restore, then if it looks for any backup, then it wouldnt find anything because the old card isnt there?
sorry i suck at this...
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The folder "clockworkmod" stores the Nand backups. You need to copy this to the root of your new sd card. This will be detected by Clockworkmod automatically
droidzone said:
The folder "clockworkmod" stores the Nand backups. You need to copy this to the root of your new sd card. This will be detected by Clockworkmod automatically
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OMG droidzone you're everywhere! thanks a million man!
cyberkamote said:
OMG droidzone you're everywhere! thanks a million man!
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Cheers
This is what I did them I got a new card, I had this in another post so just cut and pasted, my solution to moving to a new card. Bering a new member I can't post the link in here, but here is the copy of it here.
My setup, 2GB no class listed MicroSD, HTC Desire, Rooted with MoDaCo r9, with A2SD. All of my apps are on the MicroSD pretty much.
Well the MicroSD came in and I did what I know how to do, I used a cloning program that I use all the time for PCs, figured what the hell it should work.
- I plugged both of the MicoSDs using the SD adapter, then plugged the SD adapter into an SD to USB adapter and plugged them into the PC.
- I used Acronis True Image 2010 Acronis True Image , did an exact clone (called "Disk Clone" in the Acronis software), from my 2GB MicroSD to the 16GB MicroSD. Did NOT adjust any partitions or anything, had 14GB of free unused, unpartitioned space on the new card.
- Then I took the new 16GB MicroSD and plugged it back into my phone, booted, and it worked great, the phone can't even tell that it's a new MicroSD, shows same sizes and everything, as I didn't adjust any partition sizes yet.
- Then I took the MicroSD back out, plugged it back into the PC, then used another product of Acronis, called Disk Director Disk Director and then went in and expanded/resized the FAT partition to the full size, it used the free unused space to do that, and moved the partitions down the line and expands the FAT one in place.
- Plugged the card back into my phone, booted, worked great, got 15 GB plus of space now on the FAT partition. All the apps works, everything works great. It seems a little snappier and faster when loading apps now.
Side notes:
I just happened to have both of these products installed on my PC and use them all the time so that's what I used, but any Disk Cloning program that supports USB will work.
There is plenty of other "cloning" programs out there, like Norton Ghost - not free, some other pais ones. But also bunch free ones as well a list of them here , wiki list of them as well. Some of these programs are LiveCDs, which means you boot your PC of a CD and then you can edit HDs, also the USB Drives, other like Acronis will have a PC program as well a boot disk. With acorns I was able to use it just as a program no booting of a CD.
I personally have used this program called "hdclone" which is free, it has one limitations but it really is not a big deal in this case, it limits the copying to 1 GB per minute, hell for 16GB card thats 16 minutes !!! so not a limitation really. So do a exact clone using HDclone, don't resize the new SD just leave it as is, this worked for me, I think leaves everything exact as possible. Another free cloning program I have used in the past is DriveImage XML , so either of these will work to clone one SD to another. Now to resize, the product I use ALL the time to resize drives is "gparted", this one is a boot CD, so all you gotta do, plug in your SD card using the USB, boot of this small GParted CD, select your drive and then expand the FAT partition. Few extra steps with some free products but it works if you're not able to acquire Acronis.
Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions or problems. Sorry for the long write up but haven't seen anybody describe doing this plus some people aren't as familiar with cloning HDs as others.
Help!
I just went in to recovery mode with CWM and did a Nandroid back up. Everything seemed to go well. Then i selected Reboot and now the phone is looping with the White HTC sreen and nothing else....... what should I do to fix it?
angusc said:
Help!
I just went in to recovery mode with CWM and did a Nandroid back up. Everything seemed to go well. Then i selected Reboot and now the phone is looping with the White HTC sreen and nothing else....... what should I do to fix it?
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It's a known issue with Clockworkmod. Go back into Clockworkmod once again and restore the backup you just made. All will be well.
castro145 said:
This is what I did them I got a new card, I had this in another post so just cut and pasted, my solution to moving to a new card. Bering a new member I can't post the link in here, but here is the copy of it here.
My setup, 2GB no class listed MicroSD, HTC Desire, Rooted with MoDaCo r9, with A2SD. All of my apps are on the MicroSD pretty much.
Well the MicroSD came in and I did what I know how to do, I used a cloning program that I use all the time for PCs, figured what the hell it should work.
- I plugged both of the MicoSDs using the SD adapter, then plugged the SD adapter into an SD to USB adapter and plugged them into the PC.
- I used Acronis True Image 2010 Acronis True Image , did an exact clone (called "Disk Clone" in the Acronis software), from my 2GB MicroSD to the 16GB MicroSD. Did NOT adjust any partitions or anything, had 14GB of free unused, unpartitioned space on the new card.
- Then I took the new 16GB MicroSD and plugged it back into my phone, booted, and it worked great, the phone can't even tell that it's a new MicroSD, shows same sizes and everything, as I didn't adjust any partition sizes yet.
- Then I took the MicroSD back out, plugged it back into the PC, then used another product of Acronis, called Disk Director Disk Director and then went in and expanded/resized the FAT partition to the full size, it used the free unused space to do that, and moved the partitions down the line and expands the FAT one in place.
- Plugged the card back into my phone, booted, worked great, got 15 GB plus of space now on the FAT partition. All the apps works, everything works great. It seems a little snappier and faster when loading apps now.
Side notes:
I just happened to have both of these products installed on my PC and use them all the time so that's what I used, but any Disk Cloning program that supports USB will work.
There is plenty of other "cloning" programs out there, like Norton Ghost - not free, some other pais ones. But also bunch free ones as well a list of them here , wiki list of them as well. Some of these programs are LiveCDs, which means you boot your PC of a CD and then you can edit HDs, also the USB Drives, other like Acronis will have a PC program as well a boot disk. With acorns I was able to use it just as a program no booting of a CD.
I personally have used this program called "hdclone" which is free, it has one limitations but it really is not a big deal in this case, it limits the copying to 1 GB per minute, hell for 16GB card thats 16 minutes !!! so not a limitation really. So do a exact clone using HDclone, don't resize the new SD just leave it as is, this worked for me, I think leaves everything exact as possible. Another free cloning program I have used in the past is DriveImage XML , so either of these will work to clone one SD to another. Now to resize, the product I use ALL the time to resize drives is "gparted", this one is a boot CD, so all you gotta do, plug in your SD card using the USB, boot of this small GParted CD, select your drive and then expand the FAT partition. Few extra steps with some free products but it works if you're not able to acquire Acronis.
Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions or problems. Sorry for the long write up but haven't seen anybody describe doing this plus some people aren't as familiar with cloning HDs as others.
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what can i say? very detailed!
the only problem is that, I had to download Acronis product demos before I can do all these. I do imaging before but I dont resize EXT partitions...
ANyway Im still downloading..
Although I think it would help if anybody can post free and lighter (below 50MB, I guess) of softwares that can do USB cloning (disk cloning in general),..
I will post here my results..
HDclone is pretty small program and it should do the job.
Lennyuk said:
if you want to save your ext as well, then this is best done via amon-ra recovery.
do a nandroid + ext backup of your rom with your old sd card.
put in a new sd card, formatted with ext, restore nandroid + ext then your rom and ext will be fine.
As for the fat you will have to copy as outlined above (via a pc).
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So far, this worked for me.
1. Backed-up my old 8GB card on my PC (the FAT partition).
2. Did Nandroid + Titanium Back up. (The Nandroid will backup the EXT partition)
3. Formatted the new 16GB with FAT32 on my PC
4. Resized the 15.++ GB of FAT32 to 14.XX GB so that the 1GB goes to the EXT3- I did this via a bootable GPARTED CD I got here: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
5. Copied the Clockwork MOD folder from my PC backup (see step 1) to my new 16GB card.
6. Inserted the new 16GB to my phone and booted into ClockworkMOD recovery
7. Did a NANDROID Restore.
8. After restore, I had to shut off my mobile and I removed the card coz I needed to copy back the whole FAT partition backup from step 1 to the new card.
9. Placed the new 16GB back and voila!
(NOTE: steps can be interchanged,for example, I think the copying of the FAT partition done in step 8 can be done after step 3 above.
Anyways, hope it helped.
!PANDA said:
connect the phone in "Disc Mode" copy all your data onto your computer, disconnect, change memory card to the new one, and copy and paste to the 16 gig.
Sorry I don't know any way of moving you games or apps when changing an SD card
hope this helps! good luck!
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please bear with me, i am a newbie, have this unrooted desire froyo. i still have no plans of rooting it.
i also wanted to change the 2gig memory card to an 8 gig mem card. can i just follow the instructions above? is rooting really required for this?
thank you in advance for any help or step by step procedure.
Don't worry, you don't need root and it's really simple as copy and paste.
@3722 Huh?.. how can he carry out the above procedure without being rooted?
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My reply is to the comment above my post (by nytevs), and he is using a standard froyo A2SD, no root, no ext partitions so it's just simple as copy/paste, just like it says on the quote that he is reffering to in his post (the quote from !PANDA).
3722 said:
My reply is to the comment above my post (by nytevs), and he is using a standard froyo A2SD, no root, no ext partitions so it's just simple as copy/paste, just like it says on the quote that he is reffering to in his post (the quote from !PANDA).
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Oh i see....
Thanks for the reply

What could be causing files names to change and loose all data on SDCard

Good afternoon everyone.
About a month ago, I noticed that my music, videos and picture folders names were changed(renamed) to this
strange names.
I could not have access to my camera pictures, my movies or some music files.
I am attaching a picture screen shot so you can see.
So I lost all the pictures I had taken with the camera from the last 3 to 4 months. I did not make a backup
since January.
I decided to start fresh and did a cashe wipe, dalvik cache wipe, a factory reset, a system wipe, an internal wipe
and even an internal data format.
I also took the SD Card out and wiped everything there and re formatted the card.
Installed everything back in and now about a month later, this happens again.
Something has re written some file names, and wiped out the data in the folders and they will not display or
play.
I am thinking it could be a virus.
I have installed programs like photosphere camera, snoozy, note 10.0 note pad, and some programs that change my
battery, and task bar.
Does anyone has an idea of what this problem could be?
Any idea or help is appreciated.
Never seen this before, but I am interested to see what it is if anyone can figure it out.
Does it happen to be a 64gb sandisk, I had the same issue with my files getting corrupt, lost all my stuff. Reformated fat32 and has be solid for the past 3 months.
rail205 said:
Does it happen to be a 64gb sandisk, I had the same issue with my files getting corrupt, lost all my stuff. Reformated fat32 and has be solid for the past 3 months.
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It is a Scandisk 64G but I had it format to fat32.
I tried to remove the files with a file explorer and also a root explorer, even the recovery explorer and it
will not let me do it.
I am going to wait until I get home and use my micro sd adapter card reader and delete the files from
my PC.
Funny thing is this corrupt files stick to your card and I think is more like a virus than hardware related.
The file name gets changed, the data erased and then file becomes read only and the devise can not delete
it or change the files.
Seems to be doing it to the video, sound and pictures folder only.
Bad SD card, same thing happens to pc hard drives when they go ka-put. Virus will also do it... but i see that as being unlikely. Just replace the sd card.
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maniep said:
Good afternoon everyone.
About a month ago, I noticed that my music, videos and picture folders names were changed(renamed) to this
strange names.
I could not have access to my camera pictures, my movies or some music files.
I am attaching a picture screen shot so you can see.
So I lost all the pictures I had taken with the camera from the last 3 to 4 months. I did not make a backup
since January.
I decided to start fresh and did a cashe wipe, dalvik cache wipe, a factory reset, a system wipe, an internal wipe
and even an internal data format.
I also took the SD Card out and wiped everything there and re formatted the card.
Installed everything back in and now about a month later, this happens again.
Something has re written some file names, and wiped out the data in the folders and they will not display or
play.
I am thinking it could be a virus.
I have installed programs like photosphere camera, snoozy, note 10.0 note pad, and some programs that change my
battery, and task bar.
Does anyone has an idea of what this problem could be?
Any idea or help is appreciated.
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Corrupted File allocation table. First, put it in a pc, go to a command prompt (windows r and type cmd), then chkdsk -f driveletter: (depends on what your machine mounts it as). That could fix it, if not, copy all data off, reformat, copy data back. If that doesn't work, then the above poster is correct, the card is going bad, and replace it. (But it might not be, fat16 and fat32 can do this sometimes, especially if it's not unmounted cleanly when android is shutting down.)
Rabid Panda said:
Bad SD card, same thing happens to pc hard drives when they go ka-put. Virus will also do it... but i see that as being unlikely. Just replace the sd card.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
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mstrk242 said:
Corrupted File allocation table. First, put it in a pc, go to a command prompt (windows r and type cmd), then chkdsk -f driveletter: (depends on what your machine mounts it as). That could fix it, if not, copy all data off, reformat, copy data back. If that doesn't work, then the above poster is correct, the card is going bad, and replace it. (But it might not be, fat16 and fat32 can do this sometimes, especially if it's not unmounted cleanly when android is shutting down.)
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Thank you both.
It is a 2 month old card but nothing is perfect.
I spent most of the day wiping the phone and the card and re flashing everything.
I am going to do a back up and get a new card this coming week.
Will post back once I see if it happens again.
SD card is bad. Buy a new one. 100% sure this is the issue.
Also, sandisk is no longer a quality card. Don't buy them, get a PNY.
Good luck brother
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SD Card Issues

Hello All,
Two weeks ago I bought a new Samsung MicroSDHC Pro 64GB Class 10. Kinda from the beginning it wasn't working how it should.. I formated it EXT4, exFat and FAT32 but all give the same problem.
For example; I copy a flashable zip on my external sd card, copies just find, but as soon as I try to flash from the external sd card I keep getting an error and the flash failed, almost instantly. If I copy and flash the same file to my internal sd card, it works just fine and no problems what so ever.
I tried formatting it through Sense, GPe and even a USB card reader.. all give me the same issues. I can even make a titanium backup and it seems to work. Tho, as soon as I try to restore from it, it won't find the files from the backup..but when I check the external sd card on my pc (phone connect to pc by htc usb cable) the files are there and it seems the correct size. But when I want to try a batch restore in titanium backup, and I look the phone for backup folders, it finds the foder.. but when I actualy wanna start the batch recovery, it only sees 1/2/3 apps to restore, even tho there are over 70 apps to restore.
I'm at a loss at the moment, I feel like I've tried everything and nothing seemed to work. This is what the error looks like when trying to flash from external sd card:
E:Unable to open zip file.
Error flashing zip '/external_sd/blablabla/blablabla.zip'
Updating partition details
Hope anyone could help me with the issue.
Thanks in advance<3
nerotix said:
Hello All,
Two weeks ago I bought a new Samsung MicroSDHC Pro 64GB Class 10. Kinda from the beginning it wasn't working how it should.. I formated it EXT4, exFat and FAT32 but all give the same problem.
For example; I copy a flashable zip on my external sd card, copies just find, but as soon as I try to flash from the external sd card I keep getting an error and the flash failed, almost instantly. If I copy and flash the same file to my internal sd card, it works just fine and no problems what so ever.
I tried formatting it through Sense, GPe and even a USB card reader.. all give me the same issues. I can even make a titanium backup and it seems to work. Tho, as soon as I try to restore from it, it won't find the files from the backup..but when I check the external sd card on my pc (phone connect to pc by htc usb cable) the files are there and it seems the correct size. But when I want to try a batch restore in titanium backup, and I look the phone for backup folders, it finds the foder.. but when I actualy wanna start the batch recovery, it only sees 1/2/3 apps to restore, even tho there are over 70 apps to restore.
I'm at a loss at the moment, I feel like I've tried everything and nothing seemed to work. This is what the error looks like when trying to flash from external sd card:
E:Unable to open zip file.
Error flashing zip '/external_sd/blablabla/blablabla.zip'
Updating partition details
Hope anyone could help me with the issue.
Thanks in advance<3
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I've seen in the past that 64gb cards have issues with formatting unless formatted in windows as Fat32 - mine did
As soon as I did that it worked.
Have you checked it to make sure it's not fake? Where did you buy it from & what is the formatted capacity? Should be like 59gbs and change
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aer0zer0 said:
Have you checked it to make sure it's not fake? Where did you buy it from & what is the formatted capacity? Should be like 59gbs and change
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Got it from a dutch website, through a person, not a company.. it had all legit packages etc, but how can I check to be 100% sure that it's real?
My computer shows it has 62,4GB total capacity.. reading it from card reader. Sounds wrong?
nerotix said:
Got it from a dutch website, through a person, not a company.. it had all legit packages etc, but how can I check to be 100% sure that it's real?
My computer shows it has 62,4GB total capacity.. reading it from card reader. Sounds wrong?
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Deffo wrong. Sounds like a fake. Capacity is 64gb. Available is obviously lower after formatting. Legit packages mean nothing - take a look here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrFiePAL0Pg
I would return it asap
grentuu said:
Deffo wrong. Sounds like a fake. Capacity is 64gb. Available is obviously lower after formatting. Legit packages mean nothing - take a look here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrFiePAL0Pg
I would return it asap
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Meh so stupid.. never knew ppl still sell fake sd cards.. thought that time was over.. thanks for letting me know <3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52626530#post52626530
this is the post i responded to in the forum a couple weeks ago, everything pertinent to testing your card seeing if it is fake or not is in there

Files written to SDCARD, are not.

I just realized that any files I write to my external 64GB SD card are not there. Seems to have been happening since June 1. Anything I copy from internal storage or over USB (or Titanium or Nandroid backup, I was shocked to find) appears to copy successfully, but is not there when I check.
My SD card is about 2.5 years old. Could it be going bad. or maybe I just need to reformat? Anyone else experience this? Happens in TW and CM roms (and in recovery).
I was able to copy off all my data. Is there a tool I can use to test the card?
Thanks for any input,
Mike
resarfekim said:
I just realized that any files I write to my external 64GB SD card are not there. Seems to have been happening since June 1. Anything I copy from internal storage or over USB (or Titanium or Nandroid backup, I was shocked to find) appears to copy successfully, but is not there when I check.
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Well it turns out to be un-writeable in my PC as well. Can't format, re-partition, etc. Ordered a new one (Samsung for $24 @ amazon).

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