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If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?
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If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?
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Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.
Halmo said:
Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.
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Im new to the terms.. isnt flash the same as install?
Also, I used Odin to root my phone, How would I go about flashing the JB rom to my phone? Hopefully I'm saying this right. The thing I dont get since Samsung is releasing JB to the s3 why would the JB work flawless with the s3. Couldnt they use the Nexus 7's JB and port it to the S3. I'm still trying to understand how all this works. I dont want to have any hardware issues, like my camera or wifi not working from what i heard in the past.
Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.
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Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.
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I cant thank you enough for this reply. It was very informative! I been doing some research as well so I can get a better understanding on how these roms work. As sad as this sounds I found out cyanogenmod10 is basically a mod rom of jellybean. If these rumors are in fact true, would the jellybean release from samsung speed of the developing process for cyanogenmod10? Since they should share the same code or what not.
I think at this point I dont care to backup. All my pics are sync to my dropbox automatically and my can go to the playstore and redownload my payed apps there. So backing up is not needed with me.
Yeah, CM10 is a 4.1.1 rom as far as I know, I still have my old i9000 and installed it on it the other day. Its nice and has all the jelly bean features, I find it a bit laggy but all the functions work great. The laggyness is hard to say, the phone is old but they are also still porting over all the features, I think its a bit of both at the moment but since its not my daily main phone I don't play with it alot.
The Cyanogenmod is a great rom, and lots of third party roms are based off that rom just with other mods on top of it. Personally since its still a beta like it says in the forum i'm willing to wait and the rumours on jelly bean coming from samsung at the end of august seem to me more true by the day. And once that is released or leaked CM will be alot better faster. But you never know still waiting on ICS from those slow pokes on my tab 10.1 while in the mean time they have released two more tables with ICS haha.
So like i have said before its really up to you. You can install the beta and try it out, I know people are using it as a daily driver. And you can always flash back to stock.
Just a quick question i like running stocked rooted but hate when get the otas and having to unroot to update my phone
Does anyone have a idea when the 4.2 or a ota might happen ?
Im running stock at the moment and dont want to root and then next week a ota comes out
Any tips or help would be gratefully appreciated
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otterboxfan4l said:
Just a quick question i like running stocked rooted but hate when get the otas and having to unroot to update my phone
Does anyone have a idea when the 4.2 or a ota might happen ?
Im running stock at the moment and dont want to root and then next week a ota comes out
Any tips or help would be gratefully appreciated
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When 4.1.2 came out, I just waited for a zip of the rooted version was posted. I also prefer to not get the ota and wait just to see if it's worth updating. Reason being, when I was on the og epic, there were updates that I purposely did not take because the modem was worse or some other feature was screwed up. I know, I didn't answer your question.
otterboxfan4l said:
Just a quick question i like running stocked rooted but hate when get the otas and having to unroot to update my phone
Does anyone have a idea when the 4.2 or a ota might happen ?
Im running stock at the moment and dont want to root and then next week a ota comes out
Any tips or help would be gratefully appreciated
Sent From My Samsung Galaxy S3
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The good news for you is that every time there is a new OTA, Freeza posts a stock, rooted ROM. This ROM is identical to the stock GS3 phone after the update, except that it is rooted (and has a couple of extra apps like Super User or SuperSU). Freeza normally gets the rooted ROM out within a couple of days of the OTA being released. Back when I was running TW ROMs, he normally had his rooted ROM out before my area got the OTA.
4.2 will most-likely not occur until well after the GS4 is released. Samsung will want to keep it's latest-and-greatest TW version on their latest-and-greatest phone. We can complain about it all we want (and I want to), but in all honesty, it's just good marketing. The good news is that once 4.2 TW is released for the GS4, the good developers of XDA will (most-likely) be able to create custom ROMs from it. We've seen the same thing with multi-window, once it was released for the international GS3, it was soon-after ported to Sprint GS3.
Hope this helps.
topherk said:
The good news for you is that every time there is a new OTA, Freeza posts a stock, rooted ROM. This ROM is identical to the stock GS3 phone after the update, except that it is rooted (and has a couple of extra apps like Super User or SuperSU). Freeza normally gets the rooted ROM out within a couple of days of the OTA being released. Back when I was running TW ROMs, he normally had his rooted ROM out before my area got the OTA.
4.2 will most-likely not occur until well after the GS4 is released. Samsung will want to keep it's latest-and-greatest TW version on their latest-and-greatest phone. We can complain about it all we want (and I want to), but in all honesty, it's just good marketing. The good news is that once 4.2 TW is released for the GS4, the good developers of XDA will (most-likely) be able to create custom ROMs from it. We've seen the same thing with multi-window, once it was released for the international GS3, it was soon-after ported to Sprint GS3.
Hope this helps.
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In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
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In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?
Salutations! Im wondering if it is a good idea for me to upgrade to Lolipop on the galaxy Tab S T800. Right now I am running stock rom, only because I still havent figured out how to get some good custom roms on my the device. My biggest concern though in upgrading is losing the ability to be able to use customs roms in the future if i choose to do so. I am still frustrated for updating my Galaxy s4 and having to use safestrap and being limited with which roms I could install. Is this a similar situation, that I will face if I do the upgrade. Also I havent found any good youtube vids walking me through how to get some good customs roms on the tab S.
Kind Regards!
Not much roms makers this days for our devices. Well IMO its ok to update to lollipop because the Rom is smooth makes everything snappy. As said in the thread there were those who are able to downgrade back to kitkat for some reason, so your bootloader wont be locked. And just wait lollipop roms will pop out soon
Hello everyone:
I am a new (used) Galaxy Note 3 owner. I bought an LG G2 3 weeks or so ago, spent that 3 weeks studying, rooting, installing recovery and finally installing and tweaking Cloudy G2 ROM. Just as I got my G2 running flawlessly it slipped from my shirt pocket as I was grilling, bounced off the grill and landed face down on the car port thus smashing the screen to pieces. :crying: What a waste of time installing that cheap screen protector the previous evening.
Anyway, I found a great deal on a used Note 3 so I went ahead and bought that rather than another G2. So now, I need to update my Note 3 just like I did the G2. Since I am running short on time at the moment I just want to get some ideas on where to start. I do intend to read everything I can on XDA but some helpful tips would really assist me with getting this finished sooner rather than later.
So....Right now the phone has stock 4.4.2 loaded and the knox counter is not tripped.
Baseband version is:N900TUVUCNB4
Security Software Version is:MDF v1.0 Release 2.
I am not at all familiar with this security stuff so any tips here on what exactly this is would be most appreciated.
My goal is:
1. root the device
2. install recovery prefer twrp but cwm will do if necessary
3. install a good ROM (Preferably Lollipop based ROM)
4. I would like to have xPosed Framework support too if possible. Of course this depends on the ROM I presume.
I have heard that Samsung Note 3 is a real bear to root. Also that the Odin software can be dangerous. I have no idea if this is true or not so please help me here.
I was also wondering whether it would be best to root the phone while on KitKat, or upgrade to stock lollipop first and then start the root/recovery process.
I'd really really appreciate all the help I can get from anyone that has owned a note 3 and has already been all through this process.
Thanks...Olin
Oh well, no replies? Man this Samsung device is rather overwhelming what with all the various scenarios. I am thinking of going with temasek's Unofficial CM12.1, or DOMPOP, or maybe Darklord. But I am still completely unsure whether to upgrade to stock Lollipop before I start on the root/recovery/ROM project. I also need to read everything I can find on these 3 roms.
But please, if you have any comments on which of these 3 ROMS is the best for the note 3 and/or comments on the best root/recovery method then by all means point me in the right direction.
Thanks so much for any help at all.
people just aren't as helpful around here as they used to be. Either that or not many use the note 3 anymore. But nevermind I figured it out anyway as I knew I eventually would.
Hey!
I'm sort of in the same boat as you..
would appreciate some feed back see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile/help/nexus-4-to-note-3-questions-t3173473
Not sure if my jelly bean note is at its peak performance now.. it performs so well but i wanna upgrade for the sake of upgrading
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Hey!
I'm sort of in the same boat as you..
would appreciate some feed back see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile/help/nexus-4-to-note-3-questions-t3173473
Not sure if my jelly bean note is at its peak performance now.. it performs so well but i wanna upgrade for the sake of upgrading
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Hey Beegbear:
I have decided to stay with KitKat for now because of the fact you can't use the xPosed framework on Lollipop and the fact KitKat is just a more stable platform and has many more Roms available. I used this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765014
to get my Note 3 on the newest stock KitKat rom, then root it, then install the latest TWRP recovery. I carefully followed the exact steps in this guide except that I did use a newer TWRP recovery I downloaded from: https://dl.twrp.me/hltetmo/twrp-2.8.7.0-hltetmo-4.4.img.tar
Other than using this newer TWRP I went step by step through this guide. I still plan on installing a custom KitKat rom but right now I am researching various roms to try and decide which one. But at least I have latest stock, root, and a good recovery right now.
I'd start with Tweaked. A flawless TW KK ROM. Only if unsatisfied would I bother with LP. Apparently the developer is working on an LP variant, but we'll see. He releases long after others, due to commitments, but well worth the wait. There is an xposed for LP available, but carefully research what modules work with it and compare to what you want.
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I'd start with Tweaked. A flawless TW KK ROM. Only if unsatisfied would I bother with LP. Apparently the developer is working on an LP variant, but we'll see. He releases long after others, due to commitments, but well worth the wait. There is an xposed for LP available, but carefully research what modules work with it and compare to what you want.
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Thanks a lot. You caught me just before I was about to install Hyperdrive N3 RLS7.1. I'd like to ask you what you think of this ROM?
And as for tweaked, I have come across two possible versions of a "tweaked" ROM. Tweaked ROM [Material L Theme] and TweakedN3 v3.x. Are these actually the same ROM? I'm looking around but still am not sure on this.
Thanks for your reply.
Olin
Well I "think" I have it figured out and I am in fact going to go with the Tweaked ROM, basic install procedure. Thanks so much for your advice ytj87 - I would have installed that other ROM if I had not seen your post. I may do that down the road anyway but I intend to give Tweaked a thorough test before I do. It looks great and based on forum info it seems less buggy than most of the other roms I researched.
Olin
Will probably come down to the experience you want. Tweaked is more stock with an emphasis on stability. I haven't used Hyperdrive, but when you see a ROM like that which integrates something other than the Note 3 TW UI, you're more likely to see glitches. It's the same NF9 base, though, and it has been around a while, and it looks interesting, so at some point give it a shot if curious. I personally prefer the Note 3 original UI to the S5's, so I probably won't try it.
TweakedN3 3.95. The LP themed one I haven't used.