Just a quick question i like running stocked rooted but hate when get the otas and having to unroot to update my phone
Does anyone have a idea when the 4.2 or a ota might happen ?
Im running stock at the moment and dont want to root and then next week a ota comes out
Any tips or help would be gratefully appreciated
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otterboxfan4l said:
Just a quick question i like running stocked rooted but hate when get the otas and having to unroot to update my phone
Does anyone have a idea when the 4.2 or a ota might happen ?
Im running stock at the moment and dont want to root and then next week a ota comes out
Any tips or help would be gratefully appreciated
Sent From My Samsung Galaxy S3
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When 4.1.2 came out, I just waited for a zip of the rooted version was posted. I also prefer to not get the ota and wait just to see if it's worth updating. Reason being, when I was on the og epic, there were updates that I purposely did not take because the modem was worse or some other feature was screwed up. I know, I didn't answer your question.
otterboxfan4l said:
Just a quick question i like running stocked rooted but hate when get the otas and having to unroot to update my phone
Does anyone have a idea when the 4.2 or a ota might happen ?
Im running stock at the moment and dont want to root and then next week a ota comes out
Any tips or help would be gratefully appreciated
Sent From My Samsung Galaxy S3
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The good news for you is that every time there is a new OTA, Freeza posts a stock, rooted ROM. This ROM is identical to the stock GS3 phone after the update, except that it is rooted (and has a couple of extra apps like Super User or SuperSU). Freeza normally gets the rooted ROM out within a couple of days of the OTA being released. Back when I was running TW ROMs, he normally had his rooted ROM out before my area got the OTA.
4.2 will most-likely not occur until well after the GS4 is released. Samsung will want to keep it's latest-and-greatest TW version on their latest-and-greatest phone. We can complain about it all we want (and I want to), but in all honesty, it's just good marketing. The good news is that once 4.2 TW is released for the GS4, the good developers of XDA will (most-likely) be able to create custom ROMs from it. We've seen the same thing with multi-window, once it was released for the international GS3, it was soon-after ported to Sprint GS3.
Hope this helps.
topherk said:
The good news for you is that every time there is a new OTA, Freeza posts a stock, rooted ROM. This ROM is identical to the stock GS3 phone after the update, except that it is rooted (and has a couple of extra apps like Super User or SuperSU). Freeza normally gets the rooted ROM out within a couple of days of the OTA being released. Back when I was running TW ROMs, he normally had his rooted ROM out before my area got the OTA.
4.2 will most-likely not occur until well after the GS4 is released. Samsung will want to keep it's latest-and-greatest TW version on their latest-and-greatest phone. We can complain about it all we want (and I want to), but in all honesty, it's just good marketing. The good news is that once 4.2 TW is released for the GS4, the good developers of XDA will (most-likely) be able to create custom ROMs from it. We've seen the same thing with multi-window, once it was released for the international GS3, it was soon-after ported to Sprint GS3.
Hope this helps.
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Sweet yes thanks for the help
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Hi guys. I'm rooted and running gummy Rom. My question is that what happens if jelly bean comes out? Do I need to unroot to get the update?
Please answer kindly.
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With custom ROMs it all depends on the developers, there is a better chance of getting JB with aftermarket ROMs than there is going through a carrier like Verizon. (GSM version should be instant)
Most serious developers (Like Gummy) will more than likely be updating the Nexus first. So I personally wouldn't go back to stock, unless for some reason the updates are taking too long.
Liskrig said:
With custom ROMs it all depends on the developers, there is a better chance of getting JB with aftermarket ROMs than there is going through a carrier like Verizon. (GSM version should be instant)
Most serious developers (Like Gummy) will more than likely be updating the Nexus first. So I personally wouldn't go back to stock, unless for some reason the updates are taking too long.
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Thank you for your response.
And in the settings there's a "check for update" option so maybe I could use that?
But yea like you said I wouldn't go back to stock
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I wouldn't recommend it, because it will be looking for things that aren't in place, and you'll probably just end up getting a nasty message in recovery during the installation which could potentially corrupt your current ROM.
Doodsz said:
Thank you for your response.
And in the settings there's a "check for update" option so maybe I could use that?
But yea like you said I wouldn't go back to stock
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OTA updates are for STOCK ROMs ONLY. An OTA update will NOT install on a custom ROM.
You either have to flash a stock ROM, update and stick with stock, or wait for the dev to update Gummy to the latest version.
I am on 4.1.2 using Hyperdrive 16 on I747. I just am wondering is 4.3 basically as wide open as 4.1.2 and 4.1.1 now or is it best to just hold off a bit before taking it. Anyone care to chime in on that?
It's up to you, but I chose to hold off because my phone works just fine the way it is. Some report their phones are snappier, but at the same time, just read how many issues there are on these forums from the 4.3 update before you decide.
If anything, I would try the leaked 4.3 Rom from Loserskater in the development section first if I were you, and stay away form the official OTA update, but we android users just insist that our phones be on whatever the latest update is. So like I said, it's up to you.
Hey guys so I decide to get the SGH-147 AT&T S3 off of ebay for MetroPCS which enabled me to get a 2 year squaretrade warranty. After looking back at it now, I feel it might have been a bad idea since Metro has a MIR 349.99 deal for their S3 version which would mean easier android update since it would be on Metro servers if I'm not mistaken. Anyway I can't return the ebay phone now unless there is some software or hardware problems within 30 days
So my problem
I am stuck on 4.1.1 on Kies and when I check for update, because the phone is based on AT&T servers, it won't work since I'm on Metro. I wanted to see if there is anyway for me to update my phone to 4.3 which is the current version. Although, I've heard some people have 4.3 problems?
If that's not advisable, could y'all tell me how I could atleast get to Android 4.1.2? Also is there a 4.4 update in the works?
I just got the phone today and would like to be running on something better than 4.1.1
should I flash the AT&T phone to a MetroPCS ROM lol, if any of those are actually available, or if I were to flash, should I flash it to Tmobile?
edo101 said:
Hey guys so I decide to get the SGH-147 AT&T S3 off of ebay for MetroPCS which enabled me to get a 2 year squaretrade warranty. After looking back at it now, I feel it might have been a bad idea since Metro has a MIR 349.99 deal for their S3 version which would mean easier android update since it would be on Metro servers if I'm not mistaken. Anyway I can't return the ebay phone now unless there is some software or hardware problems within 30 days
So my problem
I am stuck on 4.1.1 on Kies and when I check for update, because the phone is based on AT&T servers, it won't work since I'm on Metro. I wanted to see if there is anyway for me to update my phone to 4.3 which is the current version. Although, I've heard some people have 4.3 problems?
If that's not advisable, could y'all tell me how I could atleast get to Android 4.1.2? Also is there a 4.4 update in the works?
I just got the phone today and would like to be running on something better than 4.1.1
should I flash the AT&T phone to a MetroPCS ROM lol, if any of those are actually available, or if I were to flash, should I flash it to Tmobile?
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There are numerous options. The best depends on your choice. I recently rooted my AT&T phone and installed Cyanogenmod 10.2, based on android 4.3. Check it out. It is super cool.
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There are numerous options. The best depends on your choice. I recently rooted my AT&T phone and installed Cyanogenmod 10.2, based on android 4.3. Check it out. It is super cool.
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Lets say I do it and I find out my singal or some issues I can't stand arise, can I reflash down to 4.1.1?
Btw any links to a stock 4.1.2 ROM? And do the battery on these phones run longer with newer Android flavors. The S3 battery I have is atrocious
AT&T 4.1.2 and 4.3 update is officially only available via OTA. But this requires being on the AT&T network. The are zip files available on XDA to get these updates but I strongly suggest you read up on things first.
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aybarrap1 said:
AT&T 4.1.2 and 4.3 update is officially only available via OTA. But this requires being on the AT&T network. The are zip files available on XDA to get these updates but I strongly suggest you read up on things first.
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Do you have any links on how to do the 4.1.2 update on an unlocked phone? I searched on google (admittedly i suck with google) but couldn't find much info.
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?
Hey! I'm new to the Note 3 community. I bought it recently after getting fed up with the battery life on my Nexus 5. I bought it from Swappa with stock rooted 4.4.2. I did lots of flashing and modding on my Nexus and I had an old Samsung (DROID Charge) as my first phone so I've used ODIN a little but I haven't done any rooting/ROMing on my Note yet.
I'm excited to put Lollipop on my phone but I love WiFi calling so I've been waiting for the Official update. What is the process like to get me from stock rooted KK to stock rooted Lollipop? Should I wait for a stock rooted ROM to be posted so I can flash it? Or should I unroot then update OTA then reroot? Is it better to do a factory reset? As much detail as possible for a Samsung noob would be very appreciated! Thanks.
Grab a soda, maybe a snack, and have a seat. It can be anywhere from a few hours to a few days...to even a few weeks for someone to gain full root to Lollipop.
Just keep checking back to see when someone has it rooted. In the mean time, enjoy rooted KK and try out some of the ROMs. I'm part of the Tweaked family but some of the other ROMs are very good as well.
Lastly, WELCOME TO THE NOTE 3 COMMUNITY!!
51D7H3K1D said:
Hey! I'm new to the Note 3 community. I bought it recently after getting fed up with the battery life on my Nexus 5. I bought it from Swappa with stock rooted 4.4.2. I did lots of flashing and modding on my Nexus and I had an old Samsung (DROID Charge) as my first phone so I've used ODIN a little but I haven't done any rooting/ROMing on my Note yet.
I'm excited to put Lollipop on my phone but I love WiFi calling so I've been waiting for the Official update. What is the process like to get me from stock rooted KK to stock rooted Lollipop? Should I wait for a stock rooted ROM to be posted so I can flash it? Or should I unroot then update OTA then reroot? Is it better to do a factory reset? As much detail as possible for a Samsung noob would be very appreciated! Thanks.
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Lol as the threads of rooted lollipop roms flood the General section
Enjoy and welcome to the community.