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Has anyone tried it yet, what was the outcome?
Is it possible?
Please share your ideas, views and suggestions here.
I think i read somewhere about it, but the project is not continue, unfortunatelly :/
search, maybe you'll find something
Hey Abhishek...
Why do you need to create another thread...??
There are two ongoing threads on the same topic... And if you are interested please head on to those to find out the info about porting android on bada..
Dont create unnecessary threads.... I suggest delete this... or after sometime all we will see in the Bada Section is useless threads....
*facepalm*
Read other topics WWW.ANDROIDPORT.NEt there is the wavedroid project.
Go away and come back when you have some progress for us wavedroid.
Still wondering if wavedroid is a money making exercise or a genuine attempt at getting Android over. The delays don't help the impression this is an exercise being led by folks more eager than actually having the skills to accomplish the task.
I'll be the first to eat my hat if this ever comes to fruition, but I won't be donating anything to something that at this point seems to have only updates on various delays.
Hows this for an interesting post on the JetDroid website...
Not sure why you need the expensive software, it is nice and would help but 95% of the works is already completed for you guys.
To start:
Look for phones with same hardware then use that parts from their android and put the parts into a custom version. You can reuse the /sbin and /system folders from the android sdk virtual machine or if you want better performance use the /sbin and /system of a similar hardware phone android version and just add your init , init.rc , zimage and package this into a rom or dual boot like we do.
CPU:
The wave / Samsung-Intrinsity S5PC110 cpu is much more supported than our s3c6410 and used even by Apple so look at idroid , samsung crespo , HTC 4G android , samsung i9000 for sources for your android files to start from.
Screen:
The screen is possibly the same as S8000 or Spica, wave 3.3" the rest is in other samsung opensource files you just need to mix and match parts.
Obstacles:
The biggest problem might be the cpu and screen + andreno or powervx or Mali display driver but android.so will work until you get to the video driver.
Camera:
Camera is in M910 samsung opensource files / other 5MP camera, there is only a few 5MP camera from that samsung uses so might need to work on the code if you can not find it from a same camera android phone version that is already working.
Now make a good WaveDroid version:
Once you have all this and have it working then you can build a clean custom version of android optmized for your phone. CM for HTC 4G phones might work with almost no or little changes possibly just in the kernel.
The samsung opensource website has the SCH-W850 / SPH-W8500 / SPH-W8550 , this could share some hardware with Samsung Wave as well, similar number codes. Look for a recent code release nov/dec 2010 or later.
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After reading that, I felt I could almost make an android port myself lol. Clearly there are some very knowledgeable and experienced persons out there.
What really bugs me is the Wavedroid folks have been asking for money for months, yet have shown not a shred of proof they have accomplished anything. Secondly, folks have been asking (rightfully so), why you have not implemented a Paypal widget so people can see just how much money you have raised so far. I know you are using illegal software and thus don't want to let everyone into your inner circle to see the progress, but you have shown and proved absolutely nothing. There are more doubts than positive feelings at the moment.
Please don't let this thread grow to one of two-three pages which is worth nothing, there is already another one just for this purpose
Android port is stuck because programmers dont have any programm to edit the bootloader of wave,so they can not do the port...
If anyone knows any free programm to edit ARM 7 files (like IDA 5.7) please give it to them.
But if nobody knows any programm for this case the have to wait until they have enough money form donations to buy the IDA 5.7
(sorry for my english)
This is outrageous, the fact that you need commercial tools to do what your looking to do clearly denotes your level of incompetence. Look at idroid. i didnt see them asking people for money to buy tools?? And i would say that Apple did a much better job locking down the i range then samsung did with the Wave. If you have stumbled at the starting block just forfeit the race.
Prove to us that you know what the f**k your doing and then you can have your donations.
Generally i supported this project, but then you asked for money. Money changes everything.
sabianadmin said:
This is outrageous, the fact that you need commercial tools to do what your looking to do clearly denotes your level of incompetence. Look at idroid. i didnt see them asking people for money to buy tools?? And i would say that Apple did a much better job locking down the i range then samsung did with the Wave. If you have stumbled at the starting block just forfeit the race.
Prove to us that you know what the f**k your doing and then you can have your donations.
Generally i supported this project, but then you asked for money. Money changes everything.
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I agree with U
Asking for money, without providing any scrap of proof that anything is even going on, is what irks people here. Not even a simply paypal donation widget exists so folks can see what the $ count is too.
Too many red flags on this one. I know I'm not the first to ask for proof, or even just something other than "we are working it, it'll be done soooooon, give us all your moneys roflwtflolbbq"
So many other android ports happened without need for this software. And also may I point out what seems total ineptitude on the wavedroid team's part. The Galaxy S contains pretty much the identical hardware as the Wave does. In fact you find me a phone that has identical hardware, one running android, the other something else, and tell me we already have as near an android phone as you're going to get. Compared to other port projects, this should have been done in a weekend to be honest.
wavedroid are bogus, and will accomplish nothing just like all the so called Android to Wave projects and groups previously.
I agree with sabian. I don't know a **** about how difficult or easy is this, but i'm pretty sure that there are good developers around here. Why couldn't you start a new project?
I aggre with you guys,it is very odd that they ask for money without doing anythink...
I just posted that if you know any free software that works with ARM7 files it would be good to inform then...
But they have a very good reason to ask for money because if they can not edit the bootloader they can not load anythink else from bada...if they do that the project it would be almost done because wave and galaxy s have similar hardware so with some fixes to scripts they will have a very good androidport to wave..
This has got to be someone's idea of a bad joke. I have an LG Quantum on AT&T and a Moto Droid on VZW. If I hear one more person tell me that WP7 blows Android out of the water I'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument.
I don't even know where to start the complaints on this brick.
No custom ringtones.
No custom themes.
No SD card or other expandable memory. (Some devices may have this)
No sideloading apps.
Very few free apps. Even the free apps for Android are paid apps for WP7.
No Flash support.
No Bluetooth file transfer.
There's so many cons to this thing I'm sure I left a few out. Piece of advice for those in the market for a new phone, PASS! Get an Android phone or a dumbed down media phone before you get this POS. At least you know up front that Apple is gonna big brother you to death on their devices.
I'm sorry I even thought about posting this. Yes, I know these are documented. All I guess I really meant to say was that the platform lacks some of the most common features of modern smartphones.
I can't believe how many people will resort to name calling and personal attacks WHILE telling someone else to grow up.
mcalhoun said:
No custom ringtones.
No custom themes.
No SD card or other expandable memory. (Some devices may have this)
No sideloading apps.
Very few free apps. Even the free apps for Android are paid apps for WP7.
No Flash support.
No Bluetooth file transfer.
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LOL Wow.
First off, your post has absolutely nothing to do with the LG Quantum. Here I was all excited that someone actually had it and was going to debate some negatives with it.
Secondly, do you honestly use custom ringtones? Enough to create an entire thread about it?
Custom themes? Why, so you can have purple on neon pink? Blechh, there are barely any good custom themes for wm, and that thing's been around since the dark ages.
I've never paid for an app, and my app list is getting longer by the day. Are you blind? Can you not see the "FREE" list in every app category?
Flash is a bad idea, it just slows things down
SD card? The phone comes with 16gb. I've got tons of music, apps, and a couple movies, and I'm still at like 9gb left. What on earth are you loading onto your phone?
Bluetooth I'll give you. But the OS is early, it'll come.
See the problem is, adults with families, work, and lives don't have 10 hours a day to tweak and install fixes. Wp7 has that "it just works" functionality, with a next-gen sleek look and design. It's not Android (thank goodness), and you should have done some research before you went ahead and bought something out of the blue.
mcalhoun said:
At least you know up front that Apple is gonna big brother you to death on their devices.
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If you bothered to read up on your device before buying it, you'd also know "up front" that every one of your complaints is well documented.
They are limitations, but they are all well known limitations.
Casey
TROLL.
Jim Coleman said:
TROLL.
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Just here under my bridge, chillin'!
mcalhoun said:
This has got to be someone's idea of a bad joke. I have an LG Quantum on AT&T and a Moto Droid on VZW. If I hear one more person tell me that WP7 blows Android out of the water I'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument.
I don't even know where to start the complaints on this brick.
No custom ringtones.
No custom themes.
No SD card or other expandable memory. (Some devices may have this)
No sideloading apps.
Very few free apps. Even the free apps for Android are paid apps for WP7.
No Flash support.
No Bluetooth file transfer.
There's so many cons to this thing I'm sure I left a few out. Piece of advice for those in the market for a new phone, PASS! Get an Android phone or a dumbed down media phone before you get this POS. At least you know up front that Apple is gonna big brother you to death on their devices.
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This is precisely why people with a braincell or two look into a phone before they get it. Also, WP7 blows android out of the water.
I just turned on and dinked around with my HTC Aria for the first time in several weeks (I hadn't used it since getting my Samsung Focus). It was a PITA to use in comparison to my Focus, and it was powered off and back in the drawer within a few minutes. Before you go on about different levels of Android devices, I'm specifically talking about the interface, style, and ease of use of the OS (or lack thereof).
Interestingly, I've already converted 4 people to WP7: 2 upgraded from feature phones, which means that they'd avoided smartphones for years and finally decided that WP7 was easy enough for them. The other two, my Dad and his wife, switched out an Android and a Blackberry, respectively, because neither ever had the time nor capacity to figure out either of those two operating systems. Both love their Focii.
So yeah, WP7 is bested in many, many ways by iOS and Android (and these have been well-documented), but there's a lot to be said for the new UI and its ease of use.
But, this is all a waste of breath because, as Jim said, TROLL.
mcalhoun said:
This has got to be someone's idea of a bad joke. I have an LG Quantum on AT&T and a Moto Droid on VZW. If I hear one more person tell me that WP7 blows Android out of the water I'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument.
I don't even know where to start the complaints on this brick.
No custom ringtones.
No custom themes.
No SD card or other expandable memory. (Some devices may have this)
No sideloading apps.
Very few free apps. Even the free apps for Android are paid apps for WP7.
No Flash support.
No Bluetooth file transfer.
There's so many cons to this thing I'm sure I left a few out. Piece of advice for those in the market for a new phone, PASS! Get an Android phone or a dumbed down media phone before you get this POS. At least you know up front that Apple is gonna big brother you to death on their devices.
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1. custom ringtones?
-chevron ringone manager...
2. custom themes?
you have the lg! It has full registry access. You can theme the device in several ways via the registry and even application shortcuts
there are three ways to theme
a. pin to start
offers image tiles to make a start wallpaper of program tiles
b. http://wmpoweruser.com/tutorial-for-creating-picture-wallpaper/
c. registry entries can be used to customize page layout, toolbars, menus, keyboards, EVERYTHING! If that's not a theme, please by all that is god, tell me what it is
3. LG Quantum - can someone fact check this?
http://att.deviceanywhere.com/LGQuantum/tutorials/8716
cause that shows how to expand memory
4. No sideloading?
ugh...chevron unlock and install...it's pretty simple
5. Very few free apps!?
85% of marketplace is free/trial apps. What are you smoking?
6. No flash support
Granted, but it's coming soon...
7. BT File transfer?
hm...here I thought people were moving to cloud based storage and not bt file systems
I say it again. If anyone is getting a device, read and research
Evidently you didn't...I don't even have an LG Quantum, but I know a lot about it. How about you just give it to me =)
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LOL Wow.
Here I was all excited that someone actually had it and was going to debate some negatives with it.
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If you really want to debate the phone itself (platform excluded) that's a bit difficult. As for the phone, the only "less desirable" features as far as I am concerned would be the slide out keyboard layout and I would like to have SD card storage for videos. I really like the hardware otherwise.
domineus said:
1. custom ringtones?
-chevron ringone manager...
Chevron AFAIK no longer works.
2. custom themes?
you have the lg! It has full registry access. You can theme the device in several ways via the registry and even application shortcuts
there are three ways to theme
a. pin to start
offers image tiles to make a start wallpaper of program tiles
b. http://wmpoweruser.com/tutorial-for-creating-picture-wallpaper/
c. registry entries can be used to customize page layout, toolbars, menus, keyboards, EVERYTHING! If that's not a theme, please by all that is god, tell me what it is
I'll look into this more later but thanks for the tips I didn't know about.
3. LG Quantum - can someone fact check this?
http://att.deviceanywhere.com/LGQuantum/tutorials/8716
cause that shows how to expand memory
Again, Chevron's been pulled, I know it's available but evidently they've allowed it to be circumvented.
5. Very few free apps!?
85% of marketplace is free/trial apps. What are you smoking?
Really? I really must be looking in the wrong place.
6. No flash support
Granted, but it's coming soon...
7. BT File transfer?
hm...here I thought people were moving to cloud based storage and not bt file systems
I use the cloud based storage as well but it's useful for simple transfers of files from one device to another. I actually need this a lot.
I say it again. If anyone is getting a device, read and research
Evidently you didn't...I don't even have an LG Quantum, but I know a lot about it. How about you just give it to me =)
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LOL, I'll wait to see what becomes of it for a while first.
mcalhoun said:
If you really want to debate the phone itself (platform excluded) that's a bit difficult. As for the phone, the only "less desirable" features as far as I am concerned would be the slide out keyboard layout and I would like to have SD card storage for videos. I really like the hardware otherwise.
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Well it's not like I actively wanted... to discuss the Quantum, I just- just saw your headline, thought oh I have the same one, this will probably be interestin-... you know what, nevermind. It's obvious you just learned the english language yesterday afternoon. Take care of yourself.
chevron still loads, nodo hasn't even begun to penetrate American device; let alone lgs...
and even if it did, you have full registry access
Heck do you really and I mean really need chevron in this regard??? It's a 3 second registry edit away!
It doesn't take much to learn your device and learn your hacks, and save from no flash (battery drain and slows mobile down) and bt support, you have an extremely good device. Heck save from the garish design, I would venture to say that the lg is probably one of the best phones on the market. If it didn't look like it was from 2008, it would be extremely popular.
That said, read the quantum forums. You have plenty of options regarding to getting it the way you like it.
Actually, if you do want to give it a better home =) I would want one
Welcome to early adoption. Android had many of these teething problems at 1.0. You'll get used to it, and will love when the features start pouring in later this year.
Real LG Quantum user
At the risk of actually being on-topic:
I have the LG Quantum and I love it. The performance is great, the screen is bright, and I need a keyboard because I am a typist. I'm not a hunt and peck guy and the phone is my business phone. Even at that, I watch movies on NetFlix on 3G (don't need wifi) without a hitch.
Windows Phone 7 is easy to use. You don't need a manual like the phones with thousands of disparate apps that can all run at the same time, thus screwing your ability to even make a phone call, and eventually crashing the phone. My Wife has one too, and that definitely means it is easy to use. I too have converted people, because it not about raw features that many people don't care about, it is about ease of use for major tasks, like making phone calls, keeping in touch, and taking pictures.
I have IMDB which I use all the time, Facebook, Twitter, Netflix! (yay), and Kindle. I also have a few webpages pinned to my home screen, including the Kepler exo-planet count, and the wp7list app count, which is now fast closing in on 10,000.
I hate to say, but Android is like Windows Mobile -- I had that beast for a while, but it was hard to control with full multitasking. Invariably someone wrote a bad app (pretty often, really) and killed the battery.
I believe that with the current application launching model with tombstoning,
WP7 will be ahead when it does add multitasking, because apps already know how to be interrupted gracefully and restore gracefully. The order of this was pretty smart by microsoft because, when it comes, multitasking will "just work".
I like the way Microsoft limited access to items that could be harmful. Just after a few turkeys complained that the one should be able to call an API to send a text message whenever they liked, it was announced Android had wacko apps that would send your personal info without you knowing it, and kill not only your identity but your data plan as well.
Sure, there are things missing, like custom ring tones, but a phone is a tool for increasing my productivity, and secondarily a toy. I don't really want Microsoft to get the two confused.
Once we get the initial update glitches out the way, updates and upgrades will come. WP7 already has features that no one has -- Microsoft will add more, and I believe, faster in the future.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e
mcalhoun said:
If I hear one more person tell me that WP7 blows Android out of the water I'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument.
I can't believe how many people will resort to name calling and personal attacks WHILE telling someone else to grow up.
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You can't believe that when you tell someone you'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument, they call you names?
thesecondsfade said:
You can't believe that when you tell someone you'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument, they call you names?
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LOL, touche huh? Oh, the things we'll say in the midst of a rant...
Lets try to keep it friendly and stay on topic please folks.....
Much appreciated.
can someone help port android on my sony dash
As for the Sony Dash tech specs, it's got the 7-inch touchscreen with gesture support and a WVGA 800x480 resolution. The Wi-Fi is 802.11b/g and it includes a 500mhz processor. And accelerometer.
this is able to support android hardware wise. ive seen android phones with 500mz processor running 2.1
Hope this gets done
I just recently got a Sony Dash. It's nice looking with a nice screen and I like the capacitive touch, but other than that, I'm not too impressed. I don't like any of the available themes, and it is very slow and sluggish. I don't like how it doesn't have any kind of storage and has to re-download anytime the theme or channel apps are changed.
Basically, I think this thing would be a ton better with Android on it. Android widgets are a ton better than the Chumby apps and I would prefer having a "home" screen where I can place them anywhere I want rather than being locked into the half dozen available themes. I hope somebody takes on this project.
Does anyone have news about being able to port Android onto Sony Dash?
-Joey
GnatGoSplat said:
I just recently got a Sony Dash. It's nice looking with a nice screen and I like the capacitive touch, but other than that, I'm not too impressed. I don't like any of the available themes, and it is very slow and sluggish. I don't like how it doesn't have any kind of storage and has to re-download anytime the theme or channel apps are changed.
Basically, I think this thing would be a ton better with Android on it. Android widgets are a ton better than the Chumby apps and I would prefer having a "home" screen where I can place them anywhere I want rather than being locked into the half dozen available themes. I hope somebody takes on this project.
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I would be willing to contribute a Dash to someone that is legit and could get something done for this. I just got the new HID B70 with the battery and the OS is awful! If anyone can do it, I know it's the guys on this site, you guys are the best!
Yeah, the OS is definitely awful. That Chumby crap sucks hard if you are used to Android.
Any chance there is someone working on this?
Count me in
I was looking at a Dash on Sellout.woot for $79, for my 6 y.o. daughters room. I would buy several these if someone ported android to it. This has all the makings of an incredible clock radio with android. The stock OS does seem to suck. For the development community, i think this has the same potential as the gTab. A fine piece of hardware with a crappy OS, but this would add a new category. As a nerd, (I am a chemist, unfortunately not a an android wonk), I find this to be a great opportunity.
To give a commercial value to this, I would buy the ported software for ~$20. While $20 from one guy is not interesting, perhaps this is something that could be sold and really up the value of the Dash. If 20% of Dash buyers bought the android port, it could be worthwhile as a business. God knows sony dumped a load into it.
Here's what I could dig up on the Sony Dash.
CPU: Sigma Design SMP8652A-CBE3, MIPS based.
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/uploads/documents/SMP8650_br.pdf
Flash: 256MB Samsung K9F2G08B0B (256Mbit*8)
http://www.szyuda88.com/uploadfile/1067/cfile/20105121786169.pdf
RAM: 256MB Nanya NT5TU64M16DG 1Gb (2-chips)
www.nanya.com/NanyaAdmin/GetFiles.ashx?ID=485
LCD Panel: Innolux AT070TN92
http://www.mbest.cc/UploadFile/Download/AT070TN92.pdf
Parts of software under GPL:
https://products.sel.sony.com/opensource/source_dash.shtml#dash™2010.1
Sigma Designs Android support brochure
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/uploads/documents/android_br.pdf
Android on MIPS
http://www.mipsandroid.org/
Probably the biggest barrier is a lot of the Sigma Designs stuff is closed source. From what I found here:
http://forum.wdlxtv.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=594
Access to the SDK is expensive.
Sony is shutting down their developer server in February 2013. Now would be a GREAT time to port Android onto the Dash...
I use a lot my sony dash and i hate the OS!
Its aweful!
I will pay 30 bucks by paypal to the guy who port android on the sony dash!.
theres a usb port so it willin't be too difficult to port it!
and theres nothing about this device on the web :s.
Sony just stopped to support it so it could be the great moment to port it before we can't do anything with it!
You can find all the softs for the chumby at the sony site
i would donate 30 bucks also
I would gladly donate to an android on dash project.
I would also donate to a project for Android 2.x on the dash.
In fact we might be able to use Cofundos.org to supply a method to fund development: http://cofundos.com/
I'm in for $30 as well. Really need to get this thing hacked
What's the first step? Compile an Android-compatible kernel, and flash it to the Dash and see if it boots?
If so, we have kernel source, so that part should be possible.
But, how do we flash a custom kernel? Anyone know?
GnatGoSplat said:
What's the first step? Compile an Android-compatible kernel, and flash it to the Dash and see if it boots?
If so, we have kernel source, so that part should be possible.
But, how do we flash a custom kernel? Anyone know?
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Hello,
I will put up 50 or what deal we have to to get this done, need someone to take this tv (insignia ns-42e859a11) that is running a chumby app system and make it run the android app system. I can give any info need on my tv and android if needed.
I also found this and wanted to see if this might help in some kinda way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508585
The Sony Dash is slowly being shut down by Sony.
I'll offer $40 US to anyone who can port a 4.0+ Android ROM to the Dash with working WiFi.
I hate to bump such an old topic, but it seems like there hasn't been any development here at all. I wanted to chime in with some of my findings.
Kit Wood at hackadashery.blogspot[dot]com (sorry, can't post links, new member!) has made some discoveries.
Also, using netcat, its apparent that the Dash is pretty closed down. Port 22 is a no-go, while 53, 139, 445, 548, appear to be open.
Attached is the control panel swf, as well as all the assets I was able to pull from the swf file. Nothing too exciting, it seems. If anyone knows anything about swfs, take a look.
This thing is truly a bizarre device.
swf source code
I was able to extract the swf source code.
showmycode[DOT]com/?2cf219d1d64c5d23fe236b7e3076b7b5
Hi
I'm pretty sure this hasn't been covered off already - well - not to the level of detail I need anyway.
I came to the xda forums after a friend of mine suggested that there were hacks available.
It's clear that 'something' is available, but what I am not finding is:
A) A SIMPLE guide that shows us people totally new to phone 'hacking' how to do it, from start to finish, with minimal lingo and acronyms.
B) An clear and simple explanation on the different 'hacking' options available
C) The reason you would want to do it? From what I can see, the only benefit seems to be a few pointless homebrew apps that you can download - and for the risk involved...why would you chance it?
Don't get me wrong, tinkering in itself is the reason you would want to do it - it's fun - but I can't help thinking that the WP7 side of 'hacking' doesn't offer much reward.
Would really appreciate any advice/help/links with my questions.
Thanks
Did not know whether to bother answering or not but okay. First welcome to XDA, uhhh in easy laymens terms hacking is not for the inexperienced and it is not totally idiot proof so you should have some fair knowledge of the systems and what they do. Don't hack if you need a kindergarten book to explain it all out for ya simple as that. WP is closer too iOS than Android main point being it is the most secure as far as I personally care of the 3, and the system is just as smooth and fluid as iOS. No there are not alot of Homebrew available at the moment, but if you happen to have a phone able to be fully unlocked then you have the option to use many functions that were not available before.
Device specific is where you should such that search block is your best friend, nobody here is going to write a full guide to the whole forum section for every single new hack and crack that comes out. If you want to you are more than welcome.
Thanks pal
I'm ok with the concepts of hacking, just not specifically this OS.
I'm technically minded and do a lot of similar stuff elsewhere, but when it comes to the phone that I use daily, and comntracted for another 12 months with and have no experience with tinkering WP7 - Im slightly more nervous.
I guess my main issue was the d&h forum for WP7. Every sticky/thread is far too long and they all contain a lot of acryonyms that a new WP7 hacker wouldn't understand. So my forum instinct is to look for the sticky that says "start here - everything explained" - but there isn't one?!
It's almost like "where do people start if there is no starting point"?
As far as covering a good amount of info, this post is a good one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299134
Don't really think there is a way to avoid all the jargon though, if there is something that isn't explained well it should be simple to find information to fill in the gaps. The terms used are very specific to the environment, so anything returned in a search would probably be relevant.
The most common homebrew option is Interop Unlock, Samsung models of phone are the easiest to unlock. This allows you to use native code that has not been wrapped in a tidy c# class.
The benefit of all this is that your phone is a full fledged computer that by default is locked down like an appliance. Developing additional homebrew apps allow you to get further phone customization out of your device, and therefore the most value out of your purchase.
I for myself thought about unlocking my device considering the risks involve. but I weighed the consequences. Thus, I end up now, having a fully unlocked HTC 7 Mozart with a custom rom. I am happier with my device now, I can do BT transfers, explore the folders within my device, install more applications than the usual apps/games from the marketplace, and tweak my device. One more thing, when my device was still running on stock rom, battery life is shorter, now I have 1.5x the battery life.
MY CONCLUSION: unlock your device's potential
as for the guides, yes it is not really like spoon feeding, but contents of the guides/tutorials are somehow progressive. one can learn from them, so that on the next development, we can do the "hacking" easier since we understood how the process goes. This is why it is called development. Cheers!
before i can give you advice on what hack that you can use, what is the name your device that way there are more specific hacks that we can talk about.
Hi
Thanks for the helpful replies.
I have a HTC Trophy. I'm doing the SD card upgrade next week to start with, so I can finally put all my music on it, so thought i'd look at hacking it at the same time.
Cheers
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look at the HTC part of this guide, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963
lovenokia said:
look at the HTC part of this guide, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963
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Looks like a good guide but how am I meant to know if I have a first or second gen phone....there's no definitive list?! And I can't remember what updates I have.
This is a nightmare - I'll give it a miss
check your processor, as far as i know, if your phone has 1.5GHz then it's a gen2, otherwise, it's just gen1
Let me at least give the "legitimate" talk about unlocking your phone:
For $99/year, sign up for a developers account with Microsoft (create.msdn.com). You can unlock up to 3 separate devices officially for app development. Then you can build and deploy all kinds of .xaps to your phone. To top it off, you can get the betas and early OS upgrades (had Mango almost 6 months before my friend got it from his vendor). Ultimately, you can even release your own apps to the marketplace for sale or for free.
sounds like, since this is a phone you use every day, this might be an investment worth considering. Its an easy and legitimate way for someone not too experienced with the phone's innards to get it unlocked and get exposed to how things work. Plus if you back up your phone vefore you unlock it, and something goes wrong, you haven't done anything thats voided a warranty. If the OS crashes, try returning to the "pre-unlocked" backup and bring it back to the store saying it crashed. They'll replace it. Nice deal, considering most Windows phones run around $500 to replace.
Now as for unlocking it via other means: maybe you dont want to sell apps. Maybe you dont really want to give microsoft a credit card for $100 every year. Maybe you want to just do more than a developer unlock will get you - like load a whole new aspect of the operating system. Or maybe you just dont want to pay to unlock your phone. Understandable, i suppose (though for MOST people, a developer unlock is more than sufficient). There are options, but they will require a lot of time and investigation (maybe even translation) to get it right, because the WP7 is new. The devices are many - its not like having a single hardware baseline to crack - like the iPhone. And to throw another monkey in the wrench, they did a full-fledged update to the OS not 6 months ago. So - no - not a a lot of "beginners" guides out there. Even for experienced people, an unofficial unlock is still a tricky feat. Take a look at the number of posts that have to do with phones randomly "re-locking" themsleves. Hell, I'm a legit developer and my phone "re-locked" itself last night. (turns out MS has a "lease" on deve unlocks that you need to physically update every year by un-registering and re-registering the device)
hope this was informative and helps.
I found exactly the same problem. Today I saw this post in the HTC Titan forum which helped me understand all the different unlocks that you hear mentioned on the web.
Hope this helped
So I recently discovered a cool new piece of hardware. Looked around XDA and couldn't find anything, so I thought I'd share. ( or maybe I couldn't find it just 'cause I'm a noob and didn't look properly - forgive me).
The tool is a called "MYO" developed by Thalmic Labs. It's basically a Jedi force bracelet . Apparently it can connect to a multitude of devices via bluetooth and controls it via gestures, i.e, changing slides in powerpoint. I think its pretty awesome and would love to get one, especially since they have released its API so you can also develop your own pc/android apps for it. Only problem is that I don't have $150 USD being a student .
If you guys want to check it out you can visit thalmic's site (I can't post the link 'cause I'm a new user. Just google "thalmic labs myo")
May the force be with you
(This being my first post I apologize if :
I posted this in the wrong category
Did anything I wasn't supposed to
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neyirK said:
So I recently discovered a cool new piece of hardware. Looked around XDA and couldn't find anything, so I thought I'd share. ( or maybe I couldn't find it just 'cause I'm a noob and didn't look properly - forgive me).
The tool is a called "MYO" developed by Thalmic Labs. It's basically a Jedi force bracelet . Apparently it can connect to a multitude of devices via bluetooth and controls it via gestures, i.e, changing slides in powerpoint. I think its pretty awesome and would love to get one, especially since they have released its API so you can also develop your own pc/android apps for it. Only problem is that I don't have $150 USD being a student .
If you guys want to check it out you can visit thalmic's site (I can't post the link 'cause I'm a new user. Just google "thalmic labs myo")
May the force be with you
(This being my first post I apologize if :
I posted this in the wrong category
Did anything I wasn't supposed to
)
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Lol on topic, here's the link for all you guys: https://www.thalmic.com/myo/. Seems like the device is still on pre-order, shipping 2014 with MSRP $159 in our geo. So perhaps it's advisable to wait till then.
Otherwise indeed looks like a fantastic device. Any ideas which apps will be available at launch?
Hey comunity,
As I finaly decided ton buy a Myo, I was ofc thinking about talk about it on xda. Let's dig a topic
I'm surprised by the way how few topics are opened about it here. I guess this techno is not enough known for the moment .
So here are my first impressions after wearing it for some hours :
Bought it on Amazon.com (because I was rejected by ThalmicLabs as "suspected of Fraude", what seems have already happend with french cards VISA).
Pros :
- The device is beautifull (Got the white one), great designed
- Confortable. I wear it for around half a day, and even if i still feel it, it doesnt "hurt" my arm or block blood circulation. Btw, as I work in suit, I can't totaly bend my arm (limited to ~95% of the movement)
- Even if it's 200% less accurate than a real mouse, it's a pleasure to stay in front of the screen, trying to controle mouse with your arm.
- A f*****g new way to interact with devices (As we are actualy limited to mouse & tactile)
Cons :
- Not enough movement recognition (only 5 gestures, with 1 aften used to unlock, so 4)
- Movement recognition is to much approximative to be used daily
- Muscle don't send the same "information" when your arm is leaning on the armrest of you chair. So you can't realy use it without to have stand your arm right in front of you (what is weird in office ^^)
- Some moves are not well thinked : Trying to close your fist (to make a " mouse click") when you are targeting the little red cross with your arm tight becomes a real challenge.
- It happend, REALLY OFTEN, that you unlock your device by mistake. Especialy when typing on a keyboard.
So I think the next big step for Thalmic and its community is to work a lot on the software to be more precise about movements. There is a beta of store, with a dev dedicated part, what let us hope about more and more app. But as Thalmic made a "all-in-one" tool to create app (called connectors for MYO), developers are limited to the what have been gave and THINK by Thalmic.
My impression is that Thalmic Labs had a very great idea of device, but are really bad to produce a good software to work with.
I.E. : You can't even change the time between last movement and auto-lock. It's fixed at 2 secondes and you'll have to deal with it.
I.E. 2 : You can't change the patern to unlock device.
So, to conclude, a very very BIG potential, but a lot of work to get it .