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1 week Desire: What's good, what's bad

Hi!
I thought I'll just give a little feedback after having the Desire for one week now, if anyone has any more infos or thoughts please post! I'm on a T-Mobile UK 18 month contract.
What's good:
- the screen is absolutely fantastic, pictures and especially HD videos look amazing
(I downloaded the Lady Gaga - Telephone 1080p version from Vevo, converted that to 800px width and when I first saw the video on screen I was actually speechless for a minute)
- the speed in general is great, it's like a little laptop
- internet surfing is great, especially when flipping through the animated browser windows
- the 3G speed is excellent, I always get 1.5 - 2 MB everywhere in central London and it's always an HSDPA connection on T-Mobile
- I'm very happy with the phone in general, since I saw Steve Jobs' presentation of the new iPhone OS I'm even happier, multitasking and the general UI doesn't look anywhere near as nice as HTC sense!
What's bad
- no app storage on SD cards (only when rooting etc.)
- the volume, especially when playing movies, is far too quiet when using the speakers or headphones. i can barely hear conversations when all volume controllers are on maximum. i was planning to use the Desire as a media player for long flights etc. because videos look totally amazing on the screen, but if I can't figure out a way to boost the volume without rooting etc. that's my biggest point of concern
- the app situation could be better, but i guess after summer/autumn this year so many people will have bought an Android phone that the demand will boost the development of new apps greatly, so I'll just be patient
I did send an email regarding the app storage on SD and the volume issue to HTC 3 days ago and I'm still waiting for an answer. Will post it here once I get it.
So if you have any points to add, or any infos regarding the above, please post!
Thanks
Dean

I see 1 problem and that's the app situation. There are plenty good but you're right not as much as there could be...but there will be.
The other 2 points will be fixed when root is public. Louder volume hack and apps2sd.
Root is simple. People always create a 1 click solution like they did on the HTC Tattoo.

Please see this thread for a whole list of what's bad.
But what's good about this device far outweighs all those bads

Try using in-ear headphones if the volume isn't loud enough. Technically the volume output will be the same/similar, but they'll block out most (if not all) of the background noise from your surroundings. Makes for a very clear and loud enough sound.

@ ephumuris
sorry i'm actually quite new to Android, what does "root going public" mean exactly, is that a solution where you won't destroy your warranty and can install apps2sd etc?
@ carrige
thanks for that, but i'm actually using in-ear headphones… mp3 music is fine, but movies are not loud enough. I was searching for headphones with a built in amplifier but couldn't find anything.

WIFI SUCK
THE WORST part, the WIFI setting and capability IS SUCK!
Unable to detect hidden WIFI??? Even my HTC HD is able to do that! damn...hopefully they can fix that in some ROM update.

kuailan said:
THE WORST part, the WIFI setting and capability IS SUCK!
Unable to detect hidden WIFI??? Even my HTC HD is able to do that! damn...hopefully they can fix that in some ROM update.
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I'm a bit curious, is it because of the weak ass antenna (ala iPad) or just ill coded firmware? Because if it's the former, there's nothing to do about it but replacing the handset...

What is that hidden WIFI?
kuailan said:
THE WORST part, the WIFI setting and capability IS SUCK!
Unable to detect hidden WIFI??? Even my HTC HD is able to do that! damn...hopefully they can fix that in some ROM update.
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kuailan said:
THE WORST part, the WIFI setting and capability IS SUCK!
Unable to detect hidden WIFI??? Even my HTC HD is able to do that! damn...hopefully they can fix that in some ROM update.
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If you mean can't detect if not broadcasting SSID then mine can. WiFi is pretty good on my Desire - No complaints.

If you mean can't detect if not broadcasting SSID then mine can. WiFi is pretty good on my Desire - No complaints.
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Mine is excellent with WiFi too, much better than expected.
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th3 said:
Mine is excellent with WiFi too, much better than expected.
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Same here, except that when using Wifi power saving, it sometimes refuses to reconnect to the AP, requiring a device reboot (or just leave the thing for 30 mins or so). Coverage is excellent, stability (once connected) seems excellent.
Question to the OP: why are you using hidden SSIDs anyway?

daern said:
Question to the OP: why are you using hidden SSIDs anyway?
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Indeed... If you're that paranoid a MAC filter does the job well enough.

Been using it 3 days now.
A minor design flaw I think is the non-hot-swappable SD card slot.
I have a Touch Pro and I've worked with the Legend where that is a feature.
But no biggie, really.

[Q[LiveView

I'm thinking of picking up a liveview soon but I've been researching and seeing that there are some connection problems. A lot of the reviews are from 2010 though so I'm wondering if these have been fixed.

i got one but i have never used . there is connectivity issue. i sometime manage to connect it with my play some time it just disconnect so i no longer bother to use it.

I heard that Sony Ericsson has update the firmware of liveview which improves the connectivity of it. However I didn't have that, so it might not true.
One of the reason I didn't go for it is because its battery life is just 4 days for standby. Means that I can't treat it as a watch...

no after update there is still same issue

Did you happen to find a better accessory?

Don't get it. Horrible battery life and it refuses to stay connected

It disconnects because of Android, the OS just kills the Connection due to ressources. So you need something like a taskmanager which controls the app.
But i still like it, often it just needs 1 sec. to connect again.
pros:
- control your music player
- you can read sms, email, rss, ...
- calendar
- ohh and of course you can see the time , even then the phone is disconnected
cons:
- battery lasts only about 1 day
- disconnects immediately if the phone is about 1 meter away
- less development, even then it has great potencial
if you still have questions just ask, in my opinion it's a great device, i don't like watches, but this one has much more to offer then a normal watch, also its quite cheap (in EU)... give it a try, buy it from amazon and if you don't like it, just send it back
sorry for my bad language

ZeRoWaR said:
in my opinion it's a great device.
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Yes LiveView IS a great device, but the connectivity issue will make you mad.
It disconnects because of Android (the OS would kill the LiveView app aperiodically), but the device only supports Android phones, no WM ones.
I heard someone was porting its function to Windows Mobile, and then the device must be a very useful tool when it's been done.
Somehow, it's not time to buy it now.

Just got one in the mail today but it's for someone else who got interested when he saw my Sony Ericsson MBW-150.

A slight necro so my apologies.
Got an Xperia Play the other day and got round to syncing it to my previously unreliable LiveView.
Xperia detected what it was and installed the relevant software via LiveWare Manager (installed as stock on mine) and it has so far worked flawlessly for 2 days with no syncing issues.
Considering it previously disconnected every 5 minutes Im impressed.

Couldnt the process just be locked in memory using supercharger? Would that fix this disconnect issue people talk about? Im interested in getting one but this issue puts me off.

I may try it again but its pretty poor and I would not buy one again.....
They were £17.99 from play.com but still feel I have wasted money....
Can't believe you have to take it out of the case to charge it and then place it back on, I wonder who actually was responsible for the design, am sure I can do a better job with my eyes closed.

I bought the LiveView today and I must say I really like the device and it's really handy. You might want to put some extra attention at your internal memory because the device disconnects (BT gets terminated) when the internal memory gets below ~50mb.
One thing: I don't know why you guys are so whining about the connectivity issue, when the device disconnects it just takes one maybe two minutes to reconnect again.

KB013 said:
I bought the LiveView today and I must say I really like the device and it's really handy. You might want to put some extra attention at your internal memory because the device disconnects (BT gets terminated) when the internal memory gets below ~50mb.
One thing: I don't know why you guys are so whining about the connectivity issue, when the device disconnects it just takes one maybe two minutes to reconnect again.
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It's because sometimes it doesn't reconnect....

I do this 3 steps:
-1º step
-Using Root Explorer, apply the Fivef Process (this seems to be needed only for non-Sense 2.3.x ROMs - looks like Sense in 2.2 builds allows LV to connect without confirmation).
fivef said:
I have found a solution for the repairing problems occurred on my desire HD with cyanogen 7 RC 1.
copy this file with e.g. root explorer to your SD card. edit it with e.g. astro as described below and then copy it back with root explorer. Restart your device.
/data/misc/bluetoothd/[device bt id]/linkkeys
your linkkeys file has to look something like that:
00:1D:BAD:8C:57 FF579860A41CD5A627D9D1596526715C 0 4
00:01:95:08:20:6F 809CC84592E6C1B06AB750170C365812 0 4
6C:23:B9:9B:4A:85 5AF503E766858EA7916D46C16DD31A34 0 4
The last entry is my liveview.
I just changed the last two numbers from I think
-1 0 to 0 4 so that it looks like the other entries.
The 0 is the linkkey type and the 4 the pin lenght.
But I don't know what the 0 stands for.
Have no time for futher research.
I just know that now the liveview automatically reconnects without an annoying pairing prompt.
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-2º Step
- Find in the market & install the BEST Android program I've seen yet - "AutomateIt!"
- Create the following rule in this program:
-TRIGGER: BLUETOOTH DEVICE CONNECTED (LIVEVEW)
-ACTION: START APPLICATION (LIVEVIEW)
Using this incredible program, you can completely control every aspect of your phone's behavior - for example, automatically start PlayerPro and disable WiFi when wired headset is connected, automatically start WiFi when GPS detects that you have entered your home or office (!) and do million other cool things.
-3º Step
-Install liveviewcharm from market:
This application will maintain processes from "liveview app" always on, preventing android system to kill them.The LiveView app needs to put itself in the Notifications bar in order to keep from getting killed when it's in the background.
I think that guide will fix all liveview connection problems with all compatible devices and CM7/MIUI/STOCK.
thanks to Drakosha Old, fivef, ishii.

Is there any way to disable MTP, only charge?

As title.
How can I disable MTP and only charge the phone when connecting it to the USB?

I would like to have this option as well, but I do not believe it is possible.
Curious - what is your reasoning for wanting charge only?
EDIT: The way the "Connect As" UI is set up really bugs me. One would think that since they utilized check boxes on this menu that you would have the option of selecting or de-selecting both options. Oddly enough their check boxes function as radio buttons and you are required to select one or the other...

Enter via adb shell or a term emulator with su privilage:
Code:
setprop persist.sys.usb.config adb
This is temporary and will revert after a reboot. To make permanent you can script this into init.d or edit your default.prop
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is there any non-root way? i am currently sitting in the library and the girl in front of me lets me charge my nexus on her laptop, but the thought of her beeing able to see all of my photos is kinda discomforting ...

Or you can use Tasker with Secure Settings.

Root! And use a fast charge enabled kernel.
This will also cause your phone to think it's plugged into an AC rather than USB...and thus draw more power.

Jubakuba said:
Root! And use a fast charge enabled kernel.
This will also cause your phone to think it's plugged into an AC rather than USB...and thus draw more power.
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Exactly. Easiest option.

so that's the reason it takes so long ... but she's gone now and i've found an ac plug. my nexus is just a week old and i don't have had any crashes etc. yet so i won't root in the near future. i rooted my sgs after 6 months and used cm7/9 for another 6 months. this slowly destroyed my internal sd to a point where i only got 70 € for my sgs on ebay ... i think i've learned my lession.

dr_eos said:
so that's the reason it takes so long ... but she's gone now and i've found an ac plug. my nexus is just a week old and i don't have had any crashes etc. yet so i won't root in the near future. i rooted my sgs after 6 months and used cm7/9 for another 6 months. this slowly destroyed my internal sd to a point where i only got 70 € for my sgs on ebay ... i think i've learned my lession.
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I don't know how you managed that, I flashed my nexus s literally thousands of times, never had a problem.
I honestly don't know how you destroyed the sdcard by flashing a rom.

that problem (which occures more often with the captive) affects some people http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447303 there is no permanent solution.

Encryption eh!?!
Seen a couple of threads recently with problems relating to encryption.
Is encryption necessary?
Do you people work for the CIA or MI6 or something?
Are you all guarding information important to national security??

just read the thread, everything is explained there. nobody uses encryption, android "thinks" the internal sd card is encrypted because it cant't mount it.

dr_eos said:
that problem (which occures more often with the captive) affects some people http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447303 there is no permanent solution.
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You will not experience that on Nexus devices as they have unlockable bootloaders which, when unlocked, allow you to use the "fastboot erase" command, which allows you to wipe completely most partitions.
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Mdnsd battery use?

Recently mdnsd has started appearing in my batter usage as one of the top battery offenders. I've done some googling and have found that everything from an application for a drone to location services issues to corrupted files on the sd card can cause problems with mdnsd.
I have formatted my ext sd card and turned off location services with no luck. I've also dumped many non essential apps.
Is there someway I can find out what app is triggering this service so that I can fix it?

I'm pretty much on the same boat: read about the same possibilities and tried the same tricks, but mDNSd usage keeps climbing as the day goes.
Coincidence or not, all the images in a specific folder on my device's internal memory were mysteriously deleted about the time this bug appeared. I'm using a '14 Moto X BTW.
Overall battery life doesn't seem very affected though, if at all. Guess it would be good if someone with a rooted phone could gather some more info on these stats.

TBueno said:
I'm pretty much on the same boat: read about the same possibilities and tried the same tricks, but mDNSd usage keeps climbing as the day goes.
Coincidence or not, all the images in a specific folder on my device's internal memory were mysteriously deleted about the time this bug appeared. I'm using a '14 Moto X BTW.
Overall battery life doesn't seem very affected though, if at all. Guess it would be good if someone with a rooted phone could gather some more info on these stats.
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Something to do with firefox for android? https ://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ show_bug.cgi ?id=1215012

I do use Firefox occasionally, although sync is off.
mDNSd does appear when I'm on wifi, but usage is negligible. When I'm on cell data though, it'll keep climbing the stats long after I've closed Firefox, up to the top of the list.
It's not exactly a battery leech, but it does make a dent. Good to know Mozilla is on top of it.

http://www.haesbaert.org/openmdns/mdnsd.8.html
A little info about what it does. I found I was getting it too. I also found I didn't have Greenify set up properly and Firefox was not included. It is now. We'll see.
Greenify works on non-rooted phones now.

I had dismissed Greenify for unrooted devices before, didn't seem "elegant" enough, required user action or an unsafe screen lock etc. But looked into it again because of this very issue, and boy, it really does wonders on a locked device too! One or two "hibernate now" taps a day is enough to make all backgroung creeping apps behave.
For mDNSd though, it doesn't seem to do the trick, as it kept sucking on my battery yesterday even though Firefox had been stopped and properly hibernated with Greenify. I haven't launched Firefox today, and mDNSd doesn't show in stats.
Scrolled quickly through "all apps" looking for something related to mDNSd that could maybe be stopped through app info, but it's probably more like a service. Will try to avoid Firefox for now until Mozilla issues a patch.

elircorajan said:
Something to do with firefox for android? https ://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ show_bug.cgi ?id=1215012
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Yall should read this. In the last 2 comments they say Firefox 42 is causing it. The commenter said he had to uninstall Firefox to stop it. I have too. I'll be giving Chrome another try. Or maybe it's time to check out all the available browsers again. Thanks @elircorajan for finding it.
I went to the play store and gave it a bad rating explaining about the bug. Maybe if everybody did it would get Mozilla's attention.
Update: I'm giving the stock browser a try. It seems quite a lot better than it used to be.
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TBueno said:
I'm pretty much on the same boat: read about the same possibilities and tried the same tricks, but mDNSd usage keeps climbing as the day goes.
Coincidence or not, all the images in a specific folder on my device's internal memory were mysteriously deleted about the time this bug appeared. I'm using a '14 Moto X BTW.
Overall battery life doesn't seem very affected though, if at all. Guess it would be good if someone with a rooted phone could gather some more info on these stats.
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I had the download folder delete itself right infront of my eyes, was downloading on Firefox. I'm on an S6 edge

Thx to the person who found the issue to be Firefox. I spent about 15 minutes searching for MDNSD before I found this.
I just deleted Firefox. I've been using Chrome, and a little Opera, anyways. I really miss the Android browser for the text flow feature.....

After uninstalling Firefox Beta, the mdnsd usage disappeared and the battery life seems to be much better.
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razvu said:
After uninstalling Firefox Beta, the mdnsd usage disappeared and the battery life seems to be much better.
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Not only that, the occasional lag I was having seems to be gone. I've settled on using Chrome for now. I've also got rid of Firefox in my computer and I'm using Chrome there too.
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Same thing for me (Samsung Note 4). Battery drying up in less than a day, with mdnsd at the top of the list. Uninstalled Firefox and battery back to normal - average a day and half or more.

Firefox 42.0.2 was released yesterday (December 2) and supposedly fixes this issue.

Having the same issue but have never had Firefox always used chrome so not sure what else could be causing it.

(Problem) Very slow speed transfers, software fault or hardware fault?

Hi, my Mi A2 Lite is facing issues regarding file transfer over USB... it's transfer is far too slow, Windows says it will take about a day only to copy all the files from my phone! I'm using a SD Card as internal storage (is adoptable storage) but the card itself is pretty fast since is A1 class (I have lots of apps in it and all of them works like if they were in internal memory).
Even when I first copied data to it's internal memory it took a lot of time to finish.
I have latest update (Android Pie 10.0.4.0), but with other versions the problem was there as well, my SD Card is in a good state since all apps on in opens without problems and pretty fast, but transfer is really slow, here is a pic copying music:
It says "23 horas" which is 23 hours, it's impossible to use my device like that, I still have 2 month warranty though, so I would like to know if someone has the same issues like me or not, since I can ask the seller for a new unit.
Thank you!

AndresX said:
Hi, my Mi A2 Lite is facing issues regarding file transfer over USB... it's transfer is far too slow, Windows says it will take about a day only to copy all the files from my phone! I'm using a SD Card as internal storage (is adoptable storage) but the card itself is pretty fast since is A1 class (I have lots of apps in it and all of them works like if they were in internal memory).
Even when I first copied data to it's internal memory it took a lot of time to finish.
I have latest update (Android Pie 10.0.4.0), but with other versions the problem was there as well, my SD Card is in a good state since all apps on in opens without problems and pretty fast, but transfer is really slow, here is a pic copying music:
It says "23 horas" which is 23 hours, it's impossible to use my device like that, I still have 2 month warranty though, so I would like to know if someone has the same issues like me or not, since I can ask the seller for a new unit.
Thank you!
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I also experience that issue as well, not only with this phone, but also other Android phones with micro USB port too (and with USB 2.0 interface).
I think it's the MTP thing (which it sucks b***s by nature for transferring files in my opinion).
Trying another PC's USB ports and never put phone to sleep while transferring files via MTP will reduce this problem for me, sometimes.
Since I'm not using my Micro SD as internal storage, what I did is just eject my Micro SD and use a faster card reader for transferring files.

I see, it's really strange indeed, because I had a phone (LG F60) which run KitKat and the file transfer had normal speeds, it was MTP also with microUSB 2.0, I guess it's a software bug on Android then, hope Google fixes it.

I face also this problem but only when I'm transfering lots of small files, not with few but big ones like movies. I started using the ftp server option included in Mi Drop app and it's better but not nearly as fast as USB2.0 native speeds.

@AndresX it's a well-known eMMC storage bug. A2 has one, A2 Lite has one. Daisy has eMMC 5.1 which, comparing to UFS 2.1 or UFS 2.0, is the slowest one. More to that, it's getting worse over time. I attached benchmark from Androbench, didn't change the settings, see how yours compare.

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@AndresX it's a well-known eMMC storage bug. A2 has one, A2 Lite has one. Daisy has eMMC 5.1 which, comparing to UFS 2.1 or UFS 2.0, is the slowest one. More to that, it's getting worse over time. I attached benchmark from Androbench, didn't change the settings, see how yours compare.
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A bug in eMMC? that means it's hardware fault??, eMMC 5.1 speed is not a problem for me (Surely my old LG F60 had a NAND that was like that or even worse, but it's transfer file time was fine).
I will try that benchmark, but it would be good to know if it's a hardware problem since my phone it's still under warranty. Thank you!

No, it means it's a software fault, hence the "bug", you can find it on official Android Issue Tracker, it's still unresolved and it's on the dev side to fix this.
On the other hand you might want to check if your USB port isn't faulty which is under warranty but the port might get mutilated from careless plugging in to charge which would be visible. It's a common thing for e.g. USB3 speed to become USB2 speed when ports aren't handled properly.
Bit as you stated it happens between internal memory and SD card so I'd say it's software.
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Oh all right then, my USB is fine I think, phone charges without problems and the connector doesn't feel loose or anything, I will attach my screenshot of the bench, if it's so bad then I will use the screenshot to send it to Xiaomi via te feedback app.
Edit: I already enabled all data collection related to Mi Services and Google to see if that helps a bit to report (I don't care about my data, I don't have any thing that is sensitive)

LOL. Your sequential / random values are a lot faster than mine and I don't complain and didn't even noticed that transfers may be slow XD. I guess it's a point of view and expectations then.
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It's strange because the phone feels pretty fast... Real responsive... But I don't understand why the MTP transfer is so freaky slow and corrupt (because I did notice that it sends the data it wants, sometimes it just cancels by no reason...)
I don't understand this, guess I will take a screenshot of Windows again and show that on my feedback report...

Just noticed you downgraded and rooted. After many hesitations I decided to update to Pie just because of Oreo's being laggy after some time of usage. I know it's subjective but Pie feels faster and it has better RAM management which results in for e.g. faster unlocking and switching between the apps. On Oreo I had to reboot and clean recent apps every now and then which I normally don't do and it bugged me so much I move to Pie.
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locovibe said:
Just noticed you downgraded and rooted. After many hesitations I decided to update to Pie just because of Oreo's being laggy after some time of usage. I know it's subjective but Pie feels faster and it has better RAM management which results in for e.g. faster unlocking and switching between the apps. On Oreo I had to reboot and clean recent apps every now and then which I normally don't do and it bugged me so much I move to Pie.
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Yep, I downgraded to Oreo due to battery life, but external storage was imposible to use and I think (but not quite sure since I don't remember well) that the MTP bug was there too, so I ended up using Pie.
Pie isn't horrible but needs to fix a lot of things like the SD Card Missing issue, Battery Issue, MTP Issue, etc...
If I want to update the security patch the only thing I need to do is flash original boot.img and unroot right?

That's what I understand from the Magisk root thread.
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