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[Q] Nexus 7 for Xmas now rooted (noob) but help needed

Hi all,
I got a nexus 7 for Xmas. It's my first Android device but I did have a Dell axim a number of years ago and played around with roms.
I am a happy iOS user but wanted to have a look at Android as it is quite mature now.
So I have rooted my nexus and I wanted ask a few questions
1 I have created a backup using rom manager. Is this a nandoid backup?
2 is it necessary to get rom manager pro? What does the paid version do extra?
3 are any roms available that are based on 4.4 or is it too early?
4 what is the best network media streamer? I have xbmc on my apple TV and I know I can install on my nexus. But should I or are there better options?
5 how do you transfer movies to the nexus? Via USB to the movie folder?
Thanks for any tips. Apologies for the noob questions!

I never used Rom manager so I cannot help you with those questions.
Regarding the other ones, there are many Roms based on 4.4 to 4.4.2 KitKat and for 4.4.2 I would recommend Clean ROM 2.6. Boosts performance and leaves the Tablet almost stock.
The only media streamer I know is XBMC so I cannot recomend anything else.
Once rooted you can drag and drop videos to anywhere you like I believe.

I use Archos Video Player to stream smb shares from my pc. It makes thumbnails for you and has a nice ui.
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Thanks all.
Just found that sky go doesn't work on rooted devices. I thought this was a iOS jailbreak issue!
Any workarounds for this problem for Android?

In superSu hide the root, some apps then work, others remain disabled as is probably a DRM issue which os mire likely because of the unlock
Enviado desde mi Nexus 5 mediante Tapatalk

OK thanks. Very annoying though! I will see if I can find a solution

jago.taylor said:
Hi all,
I got a nexus 7 for Xmas. It's my first Android device but I did have a Dell axim a number of years ago and played around with roms.
I am a happy iOS user but wanted to have a look at Android as it is quite mature now.
So I have rooted my nexus and I wanted ask a few questions
1 I have created a backup using rom manager. Is this a nandoid backup?
2 is it necessary to get rom manager pro? What does the paid version do extra?
3 are any roms available that are based on 4.4 or is it too early?
4 what is the best network media streamer? I have xbmc on my apple TV and I know I can install on my nexus. But should I or are there better options?
5 how do you transfer movies to the nexus? Via USB to the movie folder?
Thanks for any tips. Apologies for the noob questions!
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1 Yes
2 I would get Rom Toolbox, instead. More features.
3 Lots. Check out the N7 development threads.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Thanks. I'll take a look at rom toolbox.
I have a more general question about whether I really need to root my device. I think I can still install roms without being rooted. Correct?
I find it annoying that apps such as sky go detect rooted devices and you end up in a battle to get these apps working!
when do you need to root? What is the use case (apart from side loading pirated apps that I am not interested in)
Thanks

Welcome to Android...
jago.taylor said:
Thanks. I'll take a look at rom toolbox.
I have a more general question about whether I really need to root my device. I think I can still install roms without being rooted. Correct?
I find it annoying that apps such as sky go detect rooted devices and you end up in a battle to get these apps working!
when do you need to root? What is the use case (apart from side loading pirated apps that I am not interested in)
Thanks
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Root is an essential part of the Android experience, especially if you want to use everything Android has to offer. You will not be able to flash custom ROMs without having Root. Now I have Rom Manager Pro and I can tell you that when I first started out with Android that app what a lifesaver for me. However, now that I have a bit more experience with ROMs and Recovery Manager I would urge you start learning how to use your recovery manager. Did you install a custom recovery manager when you rooted your Nexus device? If you did not look into installing TWRP Recovery Manager. You can do everything from that Recovery Manager that you can pretty much do with Rom Manager such as make backups. The one great thing about Rom Manager is that it will identify your device and list some Nice ROM's that are available for your specific device. As for root again, some of the best apps available for Android require Root access. Apps like "complete linux installer" which allows you to put Linux on your tablet. Another great app is "titanium backup" this is an app that you will definitely want to buy the pro version. Support your developers! Titanium backup allows you to make a nice backup of all your apps and your user data. Gotten to level 40 on dead trigger 2? An update breaks your favorite app...with Titanium Backup you could restore an older version of an app and even restore your status within a game such as bringing you back to level 40 in the example of dead trigger 2 that i used...which has cloud but it was an example!
Oh one app you should seriously get for your stock Nexus 7 ROM is "quickboot". Quickboot which needs ROOT allows your to reboot your tablet, reboot into recovery mode, and reboot into the bootloader with just one click of a button. This app will truly come in handy on a regular basis...
Now you asked about ROMs...
Of course we have to mention Cyanogenmod! This is being considered the "Cadillac" of ROM's and seems to be a very favorite choice among people starting out with Android to among the most advanced "power users" of Android.
I have tried "Ice Cold Rom Project" and i like that ROM very much...
Another ROM that I can't wait to try out is the "unofficial" OmniROM Project for the Nexus 7. Now this ROM is supposed to support Multi-Windows. Have you seen the Multi-Windows commercials for the Galaxy S4? Supposedly the "unofficial" OmniROM project has made that available for the Nexus 7 and i can't wait to try it out! I will be flashing this Monday...
Here is a link for that ROM on XDA -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533936
Lastly...
You mentioned that one of your apps is not working correctly because your device is rooted? While this has never happened to me personally I don't doubt that it could happen but not exactly sure why root access would cause an app to stop working. Here is something you could try...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amphoras.hidemyrootadfree
That link above is to an app called "hide my root" that one is the paid version but there is a free one just do a search on the Google Play Store. What it does is hides root or blocks root for taking place for a given period of time. If root really is the problem for that app then this might help as you can block root and then try starting the app...
Well congrats on coming over to Android! I think once you get the hang of things you will never go back to the iOS (maybe!). Android is such an amazing project and operating system but it would not be a quarter of what it is without all of these people here on XDA. The people here are what make Android great and what make the open source community great!. Keep playing with Android and don't worry about taking risks with your tablet. If you make a backup of your ROM you can always flash back your stock ROM as long as you can boot into your Recovery Manager. If you can't there is a way to push a stock ROM to your tablet with ADB. It is almost impossible to brick your Nexus device but still don't make ridiculous mistakes such as not making your backups!
Oh...
Yes you can transfer data from your tablet to your PC in a number of ways. One way is with a USB cable but you need to have the correct drivers installed. Do a google search for USB drivers for your Nexus device and you will find the correct ones you need. Another option that you could use is FTP. The Google Play Store has some great "FTP SERVER" apps which allow you to turn your tablet into an FTP Server. You could then download an FTP client on your PC such as "FileZilla" and log into your Android Tablet and start transferring or downloading files.
I hope this has been helpful for you...
-droidshadow

Thanks driodshadow
I have rom manager, Clockworkmod touch and titanium backup installed. Now I see lots of references to twrp. Is twrp doing the same job as Cwm? Is twrp a better solution?
Looks like I will try to stay rooted but I need to find a Solution to this issue with sky go. I have read that hide my root does not fix sky go. Root detection is getting better!
Thanks again for all your help

jago.taylor said:
... rom manager, Clockworkmod touch and titanium backup installed. Now I see lots of references to twrp. Is twrp doing the same job as Cwm? Is twrp a better solution?...
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I prefer TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Too many problems with RM, CWM, and TB.
Sent from my Nexus 7

PhilipTD said:
I prefer TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Too many problems with RM, CWM, and TB.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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I actually find CWM better than TWRP, though I will admit I like the TWRP layout and design better. TWRP asked me for a password when I tried to restore after a softbrick on my N7, I couldn't access my TWRP backup even though I could get into the relevant directory.
After some research I found that this was due to how the boot-loader had been unlocked, however I did it correctly (actually followed an XDA tutorial just to be sure), so I have been a bit put off TWRP because when I really needed it, it didn't work.

purephysics said:
I actually find CWM better than TWRP, though I will admit I like the TWRP layout and design better. TWRP asked me for a password when I tried to restore after a softbrick on my N7, I couldn't access my TWRP backup even though I could get into the relevant directory.
After some research I found that this was due to how the boot-loader had been unlocked, however I did it correctly (actually followed an XDA tutorial just to be sure), so I have been a bit put off TWRP because when I really needed it, it didn't work.
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Maybe give it another try. You can make a CWM backup first, just in case.
I used CWM, RM, and TB on my N1 from the beginning, without problems. Then, a couple of years ago, they all started to wonk out from time to time, so I switched to TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Never have a problem. But maybe I should give the others another try, too.
Sent from my Nexus 7

PhilipTD said:
Maybe give it another try.
I used CWM, RM, and TB on my N1 from the beginning, without problems. Then, a couple of years ago, they all started to wonk out from time to time, so I switched to TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Never have a problem. But maybe I should give the others another try, too.
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I've decided to stick to CWM on my N7, mainly because I know it and I wanted a recovery I was familiar with while playing around with stuff like Xposed modules. I did like TWRP, I'll probably flash that on my phone over CWM and see how that goes.
I swear by Rom Toolbox, major props to the Dev(s) for that bad boy.

Root

http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip

Thanks. Looks to have worked flawlessly.

Works great! Thanks!

Chainfire said:
http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
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Works great. As a thank you I used my play credit from the NP Promo to upgrade to SuperSU Pro. hopefully you see that money!

Chainfire said:
http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
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Thank you. Simplest root evar I will also buy SU Pro

Worked perfectly, of course. Thanks as always.

Just saw this today but had already used the other root method here to get it. Either way, thanks for all the hard work you do on everything

Chainfire said:
http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
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Is this assured to work with both LRX21M and LRX21V?

Worked perfectly, and now StickMount is working too. Just played a video off USB in XBMC.

Does anyone know a way to remove the su app from showing in the leanback launcher. Can't find it in the settings anywhere.

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this do exactly? ...aside from the obvious "gives you root"...I mean how, what does it do to the system?

Boblank said:
Does anyone know a way to remove the su app from showing in the leanback launcher. Can't find it in the settings anywhere.
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Well be in next version, if you set icon to invisible, it will also disappear from leanback launcher.

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volwrath said:
Thank you. Simplest root evar I will also buy SU Pro
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Do you just download to phone or PC and put the extraction on the Nexus Player to gain root?

Boblank said:
Does anyone know a way to remove the su app from showing in the leanback launcher. Cant find it in the settings anywhere.
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Are you referring to the launcher settings or SuperSU settings there should be an option in SuperSU settings to set the SuperSU icon to invisible.

I just happened to check my system today and had the OTA update from LRX21M to LRX21V waiting. I tried installing it but Recovery stopped halfway through the install with an Error. I got back into Android with a power-cycle, so things are fine, but it's still on 21M.
I'm guessing this was due to having rooted the device. Is there a proper way to remove SuperSU to allow for a system update? I see there are 3 different options for cleaning up; does it particularly matter which one I choose? I could just pick one and try it but I'm kind of curious what the differences are between the options. Anybody know?

Update: I tried the second and third cleanup options (new superuser app and full unroot) and neither got me into a state where the OTA was successful. So I just downloaded the factory image and flashed the system.img from it, then reapplied the original root process.

xBIGREDDx said:
Update: I tried the second and third cleanup options (new superuser app and full unroot) and neither got me into a state where the OTA was successful. So I just downloaded the factory image and flashed the system.img from it, then reapplied the original root process.
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probably a full unroot and flashing the stock boot.img would fully unroot, I wonder when LRX22C (5.0.1) will hit the nexus player

The root is fundamental in all devices for many things, and thanks to Chainfire and others independent developers we can consider Android a semi-open platform. (semi-open because not all is open source)
We don't want Android like the Apple walled garden, but we are not even against the sale of the software, we just want a common garden in which the user can choose and is not obliged.
For example with the root, it was easier to start this project:
Nexus Player with a Full Version of Android Lollipop https://plus.google.com/103019026671039069038/posts/V5XaLxK3vN8
This is just the base rom with all hardware components working, on this base that is very usable, i want add many other options. like external usb webcam and mic, improving the audio part that have fixed volume and many other things useful for the use in TV.
Nexus Player is not just Android TV, but is the first Nexus device with an intel cpu. Is a milestone in the evolution of Android.
This is just the start and I am very open to sharing and collaboration on this project.
Thanks Chainfire for the root and for your "How-To SU" guidelines.

Out of interest will rooting prevent OTA updates from installing in the future?

Chainfire said:
Well be in next version, if you set icon to invisible, it will also disappear from leanback launcher.
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I did this, despite the warning it gave me. Now although I still get permission dialogs etc, I can not run the main program to delete apps etc from SU access. Is there anyway to go back to the main screen? I went to the apps sections of the NP and unlike other apps it didnt have an open command.
To get it back do I need to uninstall and then re-CFroot?
Thanks. I should pay better attention to dialog boxes but its not a huge deal.

[ROM] Marshmallow for Nexus 10

Get it while it's hot. All works. AOSP rom
Also included: directions how to build one of your own, TWRP images to flash right now, and a description of a VERY VERY cool hack i undertook to make GPS work
http://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=06. Thoughts&proj=03. Android M on Nexus10

My nexus 4 and nexus 10 are happy today thanks to you.

dmitrygr said:
Get it while it's hot. All works. AOSP rom
Also included: directions how to build one of your own, TWRP images to flash right now, and a description of a VERY VERY cool hack i undertook to make GPS work
http://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=06. Thoughts&proj=03. Android M on Nexus10
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Had soft reboots when using browser. Wiped, re-flashed and same issue.
What gapps package did you use? I made a quick one with play services and gmail.

jase33 said:
Had soft reboots when using browser. Wiped, re-flashed and same issue.
What gapps package did you use? I made a quick one with play services and gmail.
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Go into permissions and issue all permissions to the browser, or just install chrome - it supports 6.0 better
I am not going to talk about GApps, sorry
Try the marshmallow for nexus 4 thread - people there might have answers.

dmitrygr said:
Go into permissions and issue all permissions to the browser, or just install chrome - it supports 6.0 better
I am not going to talk about GApps, sorry
Try the marshmallow for nexus 4 thread - people there might have answers.
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thanks

For gapps i used this package https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347833783 its pretty basic but gets you what you need, make sure to do a factory reset after flashing it otherwise the setup wizard will fc.
Now all we need is root

Used these gapps, follow the instructions though, use "touch 'filename' " in TWRP terminal for the file creation. Gapps on 6.0 is struggling right now, but these instructions worked for me.
EDIT: Forgot the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...le-apps-minimal-edition-t2943330/post63226314

Same problem with soft reboots. Often just after starting Android before or after login. Even if I don't install gapps.

billyx1 said:
Same problem with soft reboots. Often just after starting Android before or after login. Even if I don't install gapps.
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did you erase all data and cache when flashing?
if no, nothing i can do - i do not support that
if yes send me logcat

peachpuff said:
For gapps i used this package https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347833783 its pretty basic but gets you what you need, make sure to do a factory reset after flashing it otherwise the setup wizard will fc.
Now all we need is root
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Thanks, that worked for me.
Also tried flashing supersu 2.52 beta from twrp but that seems to make it stick at the android loading screen so I guess there's no root at the moment.

it is a userdebug image, so at least in adb you have root

Amazing piece of work. Gonna try it as soon as a reliable gapps package is out!

dmitrygr said:
Get it while it's hot. All works. AOSP rom
Also included: directions how to build one of your own, TWRP images to flash right now, and a description of a VERY VERY cool hack i undertook to make GPS work
http://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=06. Thoughts&proj=03. Android M on Nexus10
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Woot nice!
Could you share your device tree ?
edit thx for sharing :
I was having the bootloop at google logo and couldn't figure out what to do.

great job on the rom, no idea why people are having issues, i found the gapps package in the nexus 4 forum....no bootloops here, everything seems to work......I was able to enable google now on tap however i do not know how to use it, instructions say to hold down the home button to launch, however we do not have a home button, any ideas?

phonetec said:
great job on the rom, no idea why people are having issues, i found the gapps package in the nexus 4 forum....no bootloops here, everything seems to work......I was able to enable google now on tap however i do not know how to use it, instructions say to hold down the home button to launch, however we do not have a home button, any ideas?
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home softbutton in systemui (the middle one)

dmitrygr said:
home softbutton in systemui (the middle one)
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Ok I tried that and nothing happened, maybe I was using it wrong, I'll try again later when I get home
Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk

I think I might cry. Flashing now.
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corumuk said:
Thanks, that worked for me.
Also tried flashing supersu 2.52 beta from twrp but that seems to make it stick at the android loading screen so I guess there's no root at the moment.
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Maybe we need a kernel that supports root. That's how it is on the Nexus 5 anyway. I don't know if any of the lollipop kernels would work on this. Maybe I'll try that sometime soon.

Just an FYI.....
Updating Google Play Services (required for YouTube) sends it into a FC loop.

Hey guys, Have you noticed any kind of performance improvement after installing marshmallow ?

fifthelement said:
Hey guys, Have you noticed any kind of performance improvement after installing marshmallow ?
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I've noticed it has been pretty quick. Did a full wipe and used the system.img from his website. Used these gapps. https://github.com/XorgMC/gapps-mm/releases/download/v1-mini/gapps-mm-mini.zip
Also, if you use those gapps it will say it failed if you try to restore your apps. Hit skip and it will say restoring. It will take a long time to install the apps. If you lock the screen and then unlock it swiping from the side to open the google app you can use the device while it restores your apps.
I havent had any issues related to the rom, just the gapps. Google app fails when i try to search something.

Android q beta 2

Anyone running Android Q beta 2 ? Can you make a comparison to Pie in terms of speed or apps that crash or hang? TIA

I have no apps crashing and no apps unable to start. Performance and battery are identical to Pie.
The Android Q is definitely a daily driver for me.
EDIT: The only single issue I have is that double-tap or lift to wake are not working.

Guys how to root? Android Q?

hfmls said:
Guys how to root? Android Q?
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Install TWRP. Flash Magisk (canary). Reboot into system. Instal Magisk Manager. Reboot and done.

Will this work on beta 2 ??

spleenandcigars said:
Install TWRP. Flash Magisk (canary). Reboot into system. Instal Magisk Manager. Reboot and done.
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not work on Beta 2, bro

How best to backout of the AndroidQ beta2?
Installed but Android Auto is playing up so want to go back to v8

Can't mount system partition R/W on Marlin using TWRP 3.2.3-1 once updated to AQB2 (although I did a dirty update by removing the -w erase flag from the bat file before executing.) Guess I'll try nuking everything and rebuilding from scratch to see if the partitions will mount R/W to install Magisk...

Is anyone able to set his own mp3 ringtone on this?

hfmls said:
Guys how to root? Android Q?
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I'm using this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79271368&postcount=1282

George_Bushels said:
I'm using this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79271368&postcount=1282
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Good Information:
Does it work with Android Q beta DP2 patch (marlin-qpp2.190228.023-factory-c262576d.zip)?

Homeboy76 said:
Good Information:
Does it work with Android Q beta DP2 patch (marlin-qpp2.190228.023-factory-c262576d.zip)?
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Yes.

sonpro10x said:
not work on Beta 2, bro
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As you can see in this screenshot, it's working just fine. You have to install the latest Magisk canary build. TWRP won't work to do some backups, but you can flash it fine.

Been running Q2 for a few days and is a great daily driver. As soon as Nova paid was installed I have no complaints
and battery life has been excellent. Coming from the Essential phone rooted this has been a pleasant surprise. For 180.00 new
unlocked on Sprint this is a good deal. I also prefer the 16x9 screen and camera.

So, I have some weirdness going on…
I screwed up and tried to install the last P build after getting the ota beta Q update….i had issues (possibly of my own making).
Realized that trying to go back wasn’t going to work so I thought I would just reinstall the Q beta version 2, I downloaded it…all seemed well until I wanted to get to “settings”
I can pull the “curtain’ down and see a few quick access icons (wifi, Bluetooth, airplane mode…) but it won’t pull farther down (second swipe) to see other options and the “settings” gear at the top. I also don’t seem to be getting notifications, I hear them but don’t see an icon.
I also can’t get to the setting that allow me to transfer files.
Any ideas?
Edit: also can't get to my app drawer...
Edit 2: home button doesn't work either...
I got it, it must have been a bad "dirty flash", did a clean install, and all is working as expected...except,
I've got root but can't see my internal storage with ES file explorer (I can see it when using my PC) (or any other root explorer) and can't edit my build.prop (can't save it)

tufyuma said:
So, I have some weirdness going on…
I screwed up and tried to install the last P build after getting the ota beta Q update….i had issues (possibly of my own making).
Realized that trying to go back wasn’t going to work so I thought I would just reinstall the Q beta version 2, I downloaded it…all seemed well until I wanted to get to “settings”
I can pull the “curtain’ down and see a few quick access icons (wifi, Bluetooth, airplane mode…) but it won’t pull farther down (second swipe) to see other options and the “settings” gear at the top. I also don’t seem to be getting notifications, I hear them but don’t see an icon.
I also can’t get to the setting that allow me to transfer files.
Any ideas?
Edit: also can't get to my app drawer...
Edit 2: home button doesn't work either...
I got it, it must have been a bad "dirty flash", did a clean install, and all is working as expected...except,
I've got root but can't see my internal storage with ES file explorer (I can see it when using my PC) (or any other root explorer) and can't edit my build.prop (can't save it)
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I did a clean flash, and had the same issue with the internal storage. It was weird though because chrome couldnt see it either, and kept failing to get permission to store files. Doing another Wipe now to try and resolve it...

bonfire62 said:
I did a clean flash, and had the same issue with the internal storage. It was weird though because chrome couldnt see it either, and kept failing to get permission to store files. Doing another Wipe now to try and resolve it...
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Please let us know if it works....I hardly ever use my hot spot, but it's nice to know I have it for emergencies!

tufyuma said:
Please let us know if it works....I hardly ever use my hot spot, but it's nice to know I have it for emergencies!
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Wasn't talking about hotspot specifically.... The issue with Chrome is still there, still not able to download anything, as it pops up that it needs permission, I hit continue...and nothing. It normally gives the permission request notification here, but it does not.

bonfire62 said:
Wasn't talking about hotspot specifically.... The issue with Chrome is still there, still not able to download anything, as it pops up that it needs permission, I hit continue...and nothing. It normally gives the permission request notification here, but it does not.
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Right, I don't think I've tried to download anything with chrome, I want the permissions so I can edit the buildprop file.
Having just checked, I also cannot download anything using chrome, Opera doesn't seem to have a problem, though. I didn't check any other browsers

tufyuma said:
Right, I don't think I've tried to download anything with chrome, I want the permissions so I can edit the buildprop file.
Having just checked, I also cannot download anything using chrome, Opera doesn't seem to have a problem, though. I didn't check any other browsers
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After clean flash, still having the same issue with the downloads. Going to Solidexplorer shows that the sdcard partition never created a Download folder. Chrome also is completely not working now, so definitely rolling back until it's resolved.

Google assistant is part of LinageOS..??!!

Hi all..
I have been using LinageOS for quite a while now, I love it and applaud those that have worked so hard to make such a wonderful OS.
But the main reason for using it is so I can avoid google. I have just installed Linage-18.1-20211113-nightly-beryllium-signed (I did not use the GAPPS package) and when I checked the installed apps/system, there is 2 google assistant apps.
I also rooted my mobile before installing Linage using magisk-v23-0 and disable-force-encryption=-treble, this was done through TWRP 3.3.0.0 beryllium. I mention these in case there is a possibility of these google apps coming from there, but have searched on the net and can find no evidence of this..
Anyone know anything about this? If Linage is now including google apps I am going to have to find another OS, and I really do not want to..!

Cant seem to get these google assistant apps off my phone (POCO f1). Tried every wipe I could do in TWRP, tried a port of CalyxOS, nothing will shift them.. Even when I 'force halt' they just switch themselves on again in a few minutes..
Going to try going back through the LinageOS versions and see if there is one that doesnt have them.
Nobody have an idea of how to get rid of these?

It's definitely weird, very weird (and hard to believe, if I may say so).
Using LOS ever since and never ever had such thing happening. Sometimes even putting gapps on it to try something with GSF...
Did you do a proper re-install from the scratch, just like by the book?
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/beryllium/install
Other than that, perhaps try asking in
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-official-lineageos-18-1-weeklies-for-xiaomi-poco-f1.4188235/

Hi SigmundDroid (cool handle)
Have now tried E Foundation too, every wipe I could do in TRWP, nothing will shift them, they activate a few minutes after I 'force stop' them..
Am now trying to find a way of doing a full format of the partitions as these files are like viruses..
E Foundation forum folk are also a bit startled by this, think they would like to know how to remove the files as part of the install procedure, me too..!!

Just found this;
https://pastebin.com/bf9Hh4RH
3rd and 4th line down.
When I look at the google assistant apps, the first one shows at the bottom of the screen under ‘advanced’;
Version 11
com.android.hotwordenrollment.okgoogle
The second one shows;
Version 11
com.android.hotwordenrollment.xgoogle
Not 100% sure how to use those lines, but they look to be adb commands… Any idea anyone?

Similar thread from 2017: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/google-assistant-on-lineage-os.3566187/
Of possible relevance is that it's what does the transfer of accounts and settings from your old phone in newer Android versions. I don't plan on using Google Assistant generally, but it was very handy that the Lineage setup hooked into it for transferring accounts and stuff from my "old" phone.

Ah, the plot thickens..
I do get that some folk are ok with google, but not me.. Would still very much like to get rid of them. Also, those that are making google-free roms would no doubt want them gone too, can hardly be google-free with those hiding deep in the moby..

Did you clear the system partition? Some ROM install packages run an addon.d script to retain Gapps and other stuff. Of course LineageOS does not contain any Google stuff, only AOSP. So there is just another logical explanation for this. If you want to be sure, look in the LineageOS image yourself.

Apologies.. Looks like I had not made it clear, I do not now think Linage, or Calyx or E-foundation have google assistant in them.. They seem to be remnants on the phone, probably from the original rom.
But they will not easily be removed and so remain regardless of which custom rom subsequently ends up on the phone.
Am hoping someone way smarter than me can work out how to get rid of them, also hoping it will help others achieve the same..

fastesteddy13 said:
Just found this;
https://pastebin.com/bf9Hh4RH
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Hmm, there is not much of an explanation what it does - looks like uninstalling a lot of bloatware.
Quigley said:
logical explanation for this
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I concur with @Quigley and we shall find it.
fastesteddy13 said:
Tried every wipe I could do in TWRP
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Which ones? (you can do screenshots in TWRP with power + vol down)
I guess we can assume you did the mandatory
Now tap Factory Reset, then Format data / factory reset and continue with the formatting process
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Plus what @Quigley said:
Quigley said:
Did you clear the system partition?
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Did you?
https://www.addictivetips.com/mobil...plained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/
PS:
fastesteddy13 said:
SigmundDroid (cool handle)
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Zank you! I zink your teflon is in love wiz your moza

fastesteddy13 said:
Apologies.. Looks like I had not made it clear, I do not now think Linage, or Calyx or E-foundation have google assistant in them.. They seem to be remnants on the phone, probably from the original rom.
But they will not easily be removed and so remain regardless of which custom rom subsequently ends up on the phone.
Am hoping someone way smarter than me can work out how to get rid of them, also hoping it will help others achieve the same..
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One other thing: it can also be the product partition. Gapps are normally included in the product image in the original firmware. Did you wipe that one as well?

Its still in LOS 19.1 , despite years of complaints. Starting to look like they keep it in there on purpose, no option to uninstall, disable is greyed out..... SKETCH!

Same for Lineage 20 on my OnePlus 7T Pro. "google free" system ...
Is there an explanation somewhere why the apps are permanently and indelibly integrated? Why is there almost nothing about this on the net?
The .apks are 100% in the lineage images. You can verifiy this by yourself, if you want.
They are located in the product.img under priv-app.
EDIT:
deGoogle LineageOS 20.0 (tested on Oneplus 8T 'kebab' kb2003) - Luc
How to get rid of G-Services from your Android phone running LineageOS completly.
lucdev.net
Well ...
I used now App Manager (F_droid) and uninstall it.