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[Q] How many GB are available in the Galaxy Nexus 16GB version?

I know the question title sounds self answering, but on my AT&T SGS2- it says 16gb on the box, but when I look at what is actually available for use, it says 11.36gb available.... total. But of course it has an SD slot. If the gNex only has 11gb available out of 16, that'd be a problem for me since it has no SD slot, which means I would wait. I'm debating on waiting for the 32gb or just ordering the 16gb version now depending on this info. Thanks for your accurate response

Total space available shows as 13.33GB

Mine also says 13.33 GB, but if you have apps synced/backed up to your google account it will install those as part of the "setting up" sequence, so your "available" storage will be less after set up.

also keep in mind if you have Google Music, then the cache will also eat up a lot

Ample space for a whopping 2 or 3 HD movies

Thanks! Question officially answered.
Thanks everybody! That's pushing it for me. On my SGS2 I'm using about 11gb right now and I don't even have movies on it. Shouldn't the sad face icon be blue too? Cause that's the colour I'm feelin now.
Release the (32gb) hounds!

How much of the 13.3 should be available on first boot? (Ie how much space does the os use?)

mr mystery said:
How much of the 13.3 should be available on first boot? (Ie how much space does the os use?)
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13.3 is what's left of the 16GB after the OS.

mr mystery said:
How much of the 13.3 should be available on first boot? (Ie how much space does the os use?)
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13.3 is what you get when you boot in fresh....

I have issues with mine, under storage it reports 1.3 gb for apps, 3gb for music/videos and 6gb free, I'm missing 3gb?? Windows reports 6gb free and 7.3 used?? The numbers don't match what happened to my 3gb?? Any help appreciated here.
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Bumping, greatly appreciate any ideas.
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6.3 + 7 = 13.3 total. Exactly what the other guys told you they had. Zero problem. All storage works this way. You have 16gb of storage, but only 13.3 is usable (after format). Same with your computers hd. For example, if you have a 320 gb harddrive, once its formatted to usable space, you only see like 298gb. Same with your phone.
Edit: I Think you're asking two different questions. As long as both are reporting the same free space you are ok. Formatting "takes away" space, and the os takes up space. This looks about right to me.

When u buy a 1TB hard disk, and you connect it for the first time, you have c.a. 900/950 GB total space. free, even less.
It's normal, every device with 16/32/64 etc, has less total memory than stated.

This is why I asked what was available after a fresh install, replies I got were 13.3gb. My system settings under storage shows 1.39 for apps, 3.04 for pictures and videos, and 6.60 available for a total of 11gb roughly. So does the os take up 2.3gb?

That1dude said:
Thanks everybody! That's pushing it for me. On my SGS2 I'm using about 11gb right now and I don't even have movies on it. Shouldn't the sad face icon be blue too? Cause that's the colour I'm feelin now.
Release the (32gb) hounds!
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Samsung might added fatty TouchWiz. That custom themes and its framework take more than stock android.

This is one of the few benefits that bests the GSM Version.
On Verizon, you get 4G with 32GB.
And I could care less about OTA.
So in the end, Verizon variant wins.
Only I miss out on accessories, white housing, and a slightly weaker development team compared to the GSM.

Looks like Samsung scrapped the 32/64gb versions

Samsung has changed their website for the Note 2. It now says that it only comes in a 16gb version.
It used to say 16/32/64 gb versions. Now it only says 16gb.
I figured that if anyone was holding out for a different version, there might not be a point.
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Well that sucks. I was thinking of getting one, but I couldnt wait and got the white one.

Yeah I noticed that a while back that in one of our "playbook's" (20 page sprint propaganda newsletter) so I went to samsungs page to learn more about it and they had those models listed while our playbook said it only came in 16gb. I figure with a 64gb sd theres no need for that much storage. I just stream all my music from google play / pandora / i<3raido and use that unlimited data plan for streaming netflix and crunchyroll. Using it for all its worth

They would cost more then people would be willing to pay.
Although in typical Samsung fashion it will come out later in different colors.

they should just ditch 16gb and make 32gb the standard model. flash memory is dirt cheap, what is the problem

ptfdmedic said:
Samsung has changed their website for the Note 2. It now says that it only comes in a 16gb version.
It used to say 16/32/64 gb versions. Now it only says 16gb.
I figured that if anyone was holding out for a different version, there might not be a point.
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I googled and the page I found still shows it.
Of course I'm a NOOB and can't post that link

You're looking at this page... probably still there for international versions being the other page that only says 16GB links to all US carriers.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/spec.html?type=find

I read that it was Google pushing for cloud usage.
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Maybe not
I wouldn't interpret it that way. They probably took down references to the 32gb and 64gb versions of the phones because they don't want to Osborne the sales of the 16gb models, and because of pressure from carriers who are getting heat about not having the higher capacity versions. In the UK there have been complaints against Samsung for false advertising (a crime there) based on featuring the higher end versions in ads but not making them available; Samsung changed their ads in the UK in response to these complaints.

Whats more interesting is the fact that on the global site it lists 1 step tasking/multitasking features which is absent from the US versions.
I will be pretty peeved if that feature does not make it to the US versions!
US version:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SPH-L900TSASPR-features
International version:
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/spec.html?type=find

I would have preferred the 32gb version as I had the GS3 32gb. Truthfully though, I never touched the internal memory. I think for me, it's more the idea of simply having 32gb. I store everything to extsdcard anyways.
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I hope this isn't true.. but at the same time I wish they could give us a definitive answer as to whether or not the larger sized versions will be made available.
I've been holding off on getting one of these as I don't want to purchase one and then find out that the 32 or 64 GB version gets released a few weeks or a month later.
I just wonder if they took down the reference to the larger models because it's not currently available.
I would probably just go with the 16 GB version and stick a 64 GB card in it, but I don't want to run into problems with running out of room for APPS on the internal memory, which I've heard might be an issue.

captaingrey said:
I hope this isn't true.. but at the same time I wish they could give us a definitive answer as to whether or not the larger sized versions will be made available.
I've been holding off on getting one of these as I don't want to purchase one and then find out that the 32 or 64 GB version gets released a few weeks or a month later.
I just wonder if they took down the reference to the larger models because it's not currently available.
I would probably just go with the 16 GB version and stick a 64 GB card in it, but I don't want to run into problems with running out of room for APPS on the internal memory, which I've heard might be an issue.
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Personally, I feel the same way. I opted for the 16gb version and honestly, how many apps can you possibly use on the phone. I have all my apps installed and have well over 10gb free on the internal memory.
My 32gb S3 still has 27gb of free internal memory.
I'm not sure what Samsung's plans are but as much as I would prefer at least 32gb, I'm coping quite well with the 16gb version.
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ptfdmedic said:
Personally, I feel the same way. I opted for the 16gb version and honestly, how many apps can you possibly use on the phone. I have all my apps installed and have well over 10gb free on the internal memory.
My 32gb S3 still has 27gb of free internal memory.
I'm not sure what Samsung's plans are but as much as I would prefer at least 32gb, I'm coping quite well with the 16gb version.
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That's good to know and helps me lean more towards just getting the 16 GB version instead of waiting and holding out.
Can I ask roughly how many apps you've got installed?

I have over 200 user apps installed, including a 1.4GB game. I still have almost 6 GB available. I guess if you want to install a bunch of really big games, you might need more, but 16GB is probably enough for the vast majority of people.

combine the hard drives
captaingrey said:
I hope this isn't true.. but at the same time I wish they could give us a definitive answer as to whether or not the larger sized versions will be made available.
I've been holding off on getting one of these as I don't want to purchase one and then find out that the 32 or 64 GB version gets released a few weeks or a month later.
I just wonder if they took down the reference to the larger models because it's not currently available.
I would probably just go with the 16 GB version and stick a 64 GB card in it, but I don't want to run into problems with running out of room for APPS on the internal memory, which I've heard might be an issue.
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There is a way to switch the memory from internal to external and vice versa.
It works on the GS3 so it shouldn't be a problem for the note2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234
Sprint guy told me the rumor is that the 32gb will be out around black Friday. I don't really trust the source but wish they would announce it. I really want at least 32gb plus my 64gb SD card. I could get by with less but always fill it up with Flashing and backups.

whalercat said:
There is a way to switch the memory from internal to external and vice versa.
It works on the GS3 so it shouldn't be a problem for the note2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234
Sprint guy told me the rumor is that the 32gb will be out around black Friday. I don't really trust the source but wish they would announce it. I really want at least 32gb plus my 64gb SD card. I could get by with less but always fill it up with Flashing and backups.
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That's interesting. It would have made more sense to handle it by releasing then all at the same time. That's what they did with the GS3.
I'm thinking they aren't going to release them this time. I could see the black Friday thing but they'd piss off a lot of people who are outside of their return window. I've been stressing out a bit because I'd prefer the 32gb version and in some weird way, it's comforting that it appears as though it's not available.
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64gb class 10 Sandisk is $40 at Radio Shack. Some might have gotten a $10 off coupon in the mail. Can't go wrong.

The 32GB and 64GB Euro versions are now listed as pre-order... personally I'll be holding out for the larger versions...

Me too heard something about thanksgiving release date for 32gb Sprint version
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Memory question

I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available. Is everyone getting that little space? My Nexus 7 had something like 13.5GB free, and my Note 10.1 had around 12GB free. I know you lose a bit due to file system format, etc...but over 6GB of 16? That seems messed up.
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ExploreMN said:
I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available.
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I saw in another thread in one of these xda Note 8.0 forums about folks mentioning the same thing, so I'm pretty sure it is not just you. Yeah, it is disappointing.

Yup. Samsung are taking massive chunks for system memory these days.
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Nexus 7, plain android. Note 8, touchwiz, plus lots of bloat.
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Nexus 7, plain android. Note 8, touchwiz, plus lots of bloat.
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4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.

Don't have my device on me, but a df might tell how much of the /system partition's actually in use. My memory is that it's only about 60% or so.
parted can probably be used to resize /system but unless it's adjacent to /data, you'll want to take very careful notes before attempting that surgery.
Fortunately, you can use uni-init or term-init.sh to enable init.d scripts and then mount the sdcard as if it were internal storage. Most of my app data is written to my sdcard using that technique.

But we have an sd card slot, my N7 doesn't. Thats a nice addition to have.
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ExploreMN said:
4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
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Its not just bloat (apps) but OS (ROM) itself takes up more memory once the manufacturers start to add their proprietary "skins" to vanilla Android. Think of the extra features like Multi-Window and Smart Stay. That stuff takes up space, and the stock ROM is pretty huge (over 1 GB, I believe).
Not to mention, Sammy probaby reserves a chunk more on the ROM partition, in case they want to add more features on future updates.
Its very much the same on HTC devices, as well. On my One X, its also got 16 GB of memory, but only 9.93 GB available as storage.
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Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.
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It would be nice if they actually reported the "user accessible storage" amount, like saying "16 GB memory, with 10 GB user accessible". Since saying how much memory the device has, without telling us how much of it is sucked up by the OS, is kinda useless information.
It would have also been nice, if they had offered a 32 GB version in the US.

No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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Warrior1975 said:
No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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Its more like the car company telling you the gas tank holds 16 gallons, when you can in fact only "use" 10 gallons of the gas tank.

I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.

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I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.
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Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.

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Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.
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Thanks. I will go back to check with store on whether their demo set were the 8GB or 16GB version. I've googled for the tech spec on Note 8 and all comes with 16GB or 32GB. The nearest match to 8GB will be on a Tab2. Thanks again and I'm from Singapore.

Alright, I have checked with the store assistance and it was confirmed that at hit on display were Wi-Fi only and it's only at 8GB. I'm a happy owner of Note 8 now and it has 8.7GB of available storage.
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Pixel Out of Box Storage

Has it been confirmed anywhere how much out of the box storage we will have with either the 32gb or 128gb Pixels? My 32 gb 6p had 25gb out of box. Im trying to find out of it will be less than 25gb since the Pixel will have the dual partitions for faster/background updates. I did manage to find a screenshot somebody took from the Android Police hands on demo and it shows 29gb available out of box. I will attach the screenshot. Im not sure if that will be same for the retail phones or if these are only demo phones so they might not take up as much space.

So there's 22gb's available, since 8gb of the 30 is already used up.

I got the 'quite dark, XL, 32GB'... I am wondering now if I should have upgraded to the 128 GB. Pictures/Video in the cloud will be great, but I am wondering how much space the VR apps will consume.

I have both 32 and 128 silver on preorder . Trying to figure out if 32 will be enough before cancelling one of them
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32GB is pretty lean for a device without an SD card. I don't need the room for pics or music anymore but although I swear this phone won't need rooted, if I DO go there, I'll need room for ROMs & backups.

cjhoney said:
I got the 'quite dark, XL, 32GB'... I am wondering now if I should have upgraded to the 128 GB. Pictures/Video in the cloud will be great, but I am wondering how much space the VR apps will consume.
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On my s7 they're around 500mb to 1gb, definitely not small. You'll run out of space quickly.

32gb on devices is not enough nowadays..todays standard is 64gb and up

I'm very worried with my 32gb not being enough. I needed the 5.5 inch screen but I don't know if the storage is more of a factor
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I think it's more than enough if you take advantage of the 'Free Unlimited Google Photo's Backup' feature

From what I've heard/seen, it doesn't seem to be much different than the 6P, so hopefully it's the same. I personally don't mind as I still have 14GB free on my 6P. I don't use VR apps or games, so most of the space is for apps, pictures/videos, music.
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Would like to know 32gb free space?

pro4ever said:
Would like to know 32gb free space?
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Total storage on UK model is 29.7Gb minus 5.39Gb for the system so you will have 24.31Gb to play with. I've attached a Screenshot of mine. Xl model BTW if that makes any difference.

32gb or 128gb

Whats the main reason for getting 128gb if they give you unlimited storage?

Video content / Music content / Offline photos / Documents / Apps / App data
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I think the big reason behind people getting the larger size would be for those interested in doing more with Daydream. I chose 32 because I have never used close to that much on any previous device.

I keep about 100gb of music on my device. Prefer to stream offline than to use data...

csongcuan said:
Whats the main reason for getting 128gb if they give you unlimited storage?
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Not having to upload 128gb worth of data?
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csongcuan said:
Whats the main reason for getting 128gb if they give you unlimited storage?
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You are not getting unlimited storage. It is only unlimited Google Drive storage for the videos and photos you take with your Pixel phone. So when you run out of storage on your device Photos will automatically delete photos and videos from your device after which you will need to use data in order to view them again.

Why 128Gig ?
I travel a lot and regardless what people say for me Data roaming is impossibly expensive and WiFi is not always easy to find.
My Nexus 6 has 32Gig the apps and OS take 29Gig .... If I want to have one movie in local storage my device is filled.

I got the 128 because I download all my Spotify playlist to my phone to save data
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I have Google music and cache a lot of playlists. Even though I have unlimited data I want interruption free music playback. I offline a lot of YouTube videos for later viewing as well. Photos and 4k videos although may be uploaded for free but 4k streaming may not be as fast when you're re watching. Also when going through an album of high res photos, download from the cloud can't be faster than local. Unlimited cloud storage is mostly great for peace of mind knowing you probably won't lose your media
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It's kind of an insurance policy into the future. With virtual reality and other things either coming on board now or in the near future I for one am not sure what my needs are going to be in the future and when I say future that could be in the next 6 months. I don't know what 7.1 is going to use up by itself so I ordered the 128 and would recommend anyone who asks to order the 128.
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csongcuan said:
Whats the main reason for getting 128gb if they give you unlimited storage?
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Unlimited storage is most likely only for photos and videos not everything else.

Got the 32GB but I wish they offered 64GB instead, LIKE MY DEAD NOTE 7

95% of my life or more I'm connected to wifi....32gb for me.

Why drive an SUV? Why have a 3 TB in your desktop? Why have a 36" fridge instead of a 22"?
This is really a pretty lame question but the number one answer that may not be as obvious as the rest...
RESALE VALUE... big time, the extra amount you pay will be ,made up for later (not to mention all your fav music and movies when you are stuck somewhere with no data)

So the limited edition blue is only in 32gb size... Guess I'm going black 128gb. Need it for Google music and Netflix.

le0.br4zuc4 said:
I got the 128 because I download all my Spotify playlist to my phone to save data
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I do the same thing. I just saw the mighty audio, looks cool

skinnytoo2 said:
I do the same thing. I just saw the mighty audio, looks cool
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I am not a fan of carrying another device just for audio. If that was the case I'd get an iPod
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I ordered the 128gig because everytime I get a 32gig phone about 6 months in I'm having to start removing stuff to make room for other stuff, it all comes down to how you use the device, the unlimited camera pictures/videos is a nice touch but for how I use my phone that free storage won't even make a dent in what I keep on my phone. on the other hand if it had an SD slot I would have probably took the 32gig as I could offload some stuff to the card, a middle ground option of 64gig would have been nice tho.

nrage23 said:
You are not getting unlimited storage. It is only unlimited Google Drive storage for the videos and photos you take with your Pixel phone. So when you run out of storage on your device Photos will automatically delete photos and videos from your device after which you will need to use data in order to view them again.
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Unless you're on wifi that is.

darkjuan said:
Unless you're on wifi that is.
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WiFi has nothing to do with the unlimited storage