I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available. Is everyone getting that little space? My Nexus 7 had something like 13.5GB free, and my Note 10.1 had around 12GB free. I know you lose a bit due to file system format, etc...but over 6GB of 16? That seems messed up.
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ExploreMN said:
I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available.
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I saw in another thread in one of these xda Note 8.0 forums about folks mentioning the same thing, so I'm pretty sure it is not just you. Yeah, it is disappointing.
Yup. Samsung are taking massive chunks for system memory these days.
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Nexus 7, plain android. Note 8, touchwiz, plus lots of bloat.
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Nexus 7, plain android. Note 8, touchwiz, plus lots of bloat.
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4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.
Don't have my device on me, but a df might tell how much of the /system partition's actually in use. My memory is that it's only about 60% or so.
parted can probably be used to resize /system but unless it's adjacent to /data, you'll want to take very careful notes before attempting that surgery.
Fortunately, you can use uni-init or term-init.sh to enable init.d scripts and then mount the sdcard as if it were internal storage. Most of my app data is written to my sdcard using that technique.
But we have an sd card slot, my N7 doesn't. Thats a nice addition to have.
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4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
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Its not just bloat (apps) but OS (ROM) itself takes up more memory once the manufacturers start to add their proprietary "skins" to vanilla Android. Think of the extra features like Multi-Window and Smart Stay. That stuff takes up space, and the stock ROM is pretty huge (over 1 GB, I believe).
Not to mention, Sammy probaby reserves a chunk more on the ROM partition, in case they want to add more features on future updates.
Its very much the same on HTC devices, as well. On my One X, its also got 16 GB of memory, but only 9.93 GB available as storage.
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Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.
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It would be nice if they actually reported the "user accessible storage" amount, like saying "16 GB memory, with 10 GB user accessible". Since saying how much memory the device has, without telling us how much of it is sucked up by the OS, is kinda useless information.
It would have also been nice, if they had offered a 32 GB version in the US.
No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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Its more like the car company telling you the gas tank holds 16 gallons, when you can in fact only "use" 10 gallons of the gas tank.
I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.
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I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.
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Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.
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Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.
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Thanks. I will go back to check with store on whether their demo set were the 8GB or 16GB version. I've googled for the tech spec on Note 8 and all comes with 16GB or 32GB. The nearest match to 8GB will be on a Tab2. Thanks again and I'm from Singapore.
Alright, I have checked with the store assistance and it was confirmed that at hit on display were Wi-Fi only and it's only at 8GB. I'm a happy owner of Note 8 now and it has 8.7GB of available storage.
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The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
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Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
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Because I choose to buy a 64GB version. I didn't ask which one I should get, I asked where I could find those versions. Anyway most high end Android phones can all be overclocked. Like One X or S III. People run them at 1.8GHz without issues.
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Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
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Your storage space issue is for me the easiest to answer. I am an extensive user of audio books. The teaching company series, Will Durant's seminal 12 volume series, podcasts, science fiction audio... Asimov, Huxley, Clarke, current fiction, "Why the West Rules for Now" (i highly recommend by the way) is how i keep sane on morning and evening commutes. I have a 16gb g-note and a 64gb SD card and i use all of this storage. Samsung's release of a new 128gb SD card will be none to soon, and if it cannot be utilized on my current note, it will most likely spur me to buy the note 2 with 2 GB ram and 64 GB SD internal. I also can access and stream from my collection on my home server but my at&t "unlimited" isn't, so i use WiFi whenever possible. This means that i use the phones memory as a cache buffer to limit my telecoms' leverage. Concerning speed. I am currently testing an incredible voice control app called Utter. Extremely flexible, configurable and powerful. Coupled with Ivona voice the results are simply stunning. I am also running a custom JellyBean rom called slimbean that is half the size of ice cream, is overclocked at 1.8 ghz and is as smooth as a baby's butt. I've been overclocking and flashing roms since i joined xda, its why i joined xda. I understand your credulity, we do still call these devices phones after all. i am also aware that my setup and usage is not typical, yet it is just this flexibility of android and current Samsung products that make them so attractive people like us with such differing needs and views.
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To the Op, i am keeping my eye out for the larger 32/64 internal storage versions and will let you know if i stumble on a release date reference. Thanks for starting this thread
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Every time someone responds to a person who asks about when a model with a larger storage will be out with the "you don't need that much" line, or something like that, they should get an infraction.
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Every time someone responds to a person who asks about when a model with a larger storage will be out with the "you don't need that much" line, or something like that, they should get an infraction.
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3 strike policy, and you're out of XDA, haha
First time i heard the "you don't need that much.... " line was when i opted for a 10MB hard drive for my then new spanking hot PC AT. It had a 16bit processor and 512kb of ram...my buddy had the
commodore 64 (64 KB of ram and a cassette based memory). Despite his lack of technical sense, we remain friends to this day. Unsurprisingly, he favors that other phone ecosystem....the glass jewelry ones with those little screens. He still freaks out when he sees my note. His first words? Yeah, you guessed it; " you don't need that much..." I notice his wife checking it out though... So maybe there is some justice in this life
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You only get to see the true value of a decision if you get to live with it.
I had friends that laughed at me s3 about its size. Now one of thes ( a .... girl! ) got one for free
Her first reaction was "un#@#$ing believable... i was blind and now i saw!"
Same thing with 2nd battery. People give 500+$ for a phone and they don't get an extra battery and a charger.
If i borrow them mine for a few days they get to "see the light"
Same thing with sd cards. From 16 to 32 and from there to 64gb they were telling me what you will do with all that space for ?
Guess what? Its usually full.
So i ll be waiting for the 32gb at least , i dont believe we will see a 64gb version sadly
We might need to wait for a month or so to get it
64gb + 64gb
I have about 80GB of mp3 files which I want to carry around with me. I have several GB more of pictures I have a Galaxy S3 with 32GB internal and a 64GB card, and it's getting crowded. And I'll keep adding more files. Maybe one day I'll be comfortable with keeping this in "the cloud", or streaming it from HDs in my house, but right now I want it all on my phone.
Right now Samsung's web page only mentions a 16GB version for US carriers. I definitely won't buy that.
I agree with the philosophy of not questioning why someone wants the storage they want.
It is already available for pre-order on some sites (handyshop.de) by an exorbitant price of 899 eur and a delivery date at the end of October...
MartinDLawliet said:
The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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I was wondering the same as well. I just ordered my Note 2, but am wondering about the storage. I have a 16GB Nexus 7 and have found that with no music/videos/picutres stored, I cannot download all of my apps without getting a low storage warning.
Anyone have issues with downloading around 200 apps on a 16GB Note 2? I know you can add an SD Card, but that doesnt help with app storage, correct? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I was wondering the same as well. I just ordered my Note 2, but am wondering about the storage. I have a 16GB Nexus 7 and have found that with no music/videos/picutres stored, I cannot download all of my apps without getting a low storage warning.
Anyone have issues with downloading around 200 apps on a 16GB Note 2? I know you can add an SD Card, but that doesnt help with app storage, correct? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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just wait and purchased highest memory storage device.. 16gb will give you actually 11gb and which will spent very fast..
I am going to sell my 16gb note 2 soon.. its worthless as we cant install apps on external SDCard
I see the SGN2 on ATT only has 16g of memory. Should I wait to see if they get devices with more memory? I understand that you cannot really run apps from the SD card. Could some one please shed some light on this for me?
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I see the SGN2 on ATT only has 16g of memory. Should I wait to see if they get devices with more memory? I understand that you cannot really run apps from the SD card. Could some one please shed some light on this for me?
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I can't imagine someone having 16G of apps? Matter of faxt 8 gig of apps would be crazy. I have 30 apps on my SGSIII and that is only .7G. Most Apps are only like 10M so it would take 100 apps for 1 G. Id say 16G is plenty. Buy a 64G SD card for all your media files and you should be fine.
16 GB is fine on a phone that allows an external microSD card. Put all your music, photos, videos, etc on the microSD and you'll have 16GB dedicated only for apps.
16 GB on a device that doesn't have an SD slot is okay for people who either don't have much stuff or that store that stuff on a "cloud" service (dropbox, google music/drive, etc) Personally, I don't like the "cloud" idea as it uses up my data allotment.
For the sake of comparison, I have 4 Gigs of music and many apps on my Inspire 4G with 8 GB micro SD Card. 16 GB internal with a 32 GB card will be more space than most people will use.
i actually had to clear out internal space for tomtom maps on my 16gb atrix (no option to use sd card for the maps) ....and i only use internal for apps.
yeah i know there are ways to force apps to sd...but it was causing freezing issues on the atrix...
so yeah, a little disappointed that there isn't a 32gb at launch...cuz in two years apps can just get bigger and bigger....
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I can't imagine someone having 16G of apps? Matter of faxt 8 gig of apps would be crazy.
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Seen the size of some the newer games yet? 1 or 2gb games will become common soon, especially for FPS and racing games now that the hardware is there.
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Seen the size of some the newer games yet? 1 or 2gb games will become common soon, especially for FPS and racing games now that the hardware is there.
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Can't you install the APPS on the SD card, just like you can do today?
Was just curious on difference in file size between my ios apps and soon to be android apps. I will compare a couple of other apps later today but if this is the trend I don't think I will have an issue with only 10gb of usable space.
I just compared the original angry birds 2.3.0 and my ios app is 112mb and the play store shows the android version is only 24mb.
Netflix ios 30.3mb and playstore shows the android version at 10mb.
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Can't you install the APPS on the SD card, just like you can do today?
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No, something to do with changes google made after ICS. I'm told titanium backup works, can't confirm til I get mine next Tuesday.
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No, something to do with changes google made after ICS. I'm told titanium backup works, can't confirm til I get mine next Tuesday.
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I have Jellybean on my Samsung Epic 4G (2+ year old device), running CM10, and it can move stuff to the SD card.
Pop a 64GB microSD card in there. Problem solved.
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I have Jellybean on my Samsung Epic 4G (2+ year old device), running CM10, and it can move stuff to the SD card.
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There is a post in the International version threads about it, something with JellyBean and the way the Note 2 is partitioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951536&highlight=apps
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There is a post in the International version threads about it, something with JellyBean and the way the Note 2 is partitioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951536&highlight=apps
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wow. That concerns me greatly.
For me 16GB is not enough for main memory. I have a 32GB SD card but unfortunately on the S3 and presumably the Note 2 App2SD won't work. So all you are left with is 16gb to install all your apps, which is really like 11GB useable. Well if you want to play games on your phone (I have been) a lot of these bigger games are each 1GB or larger!! I just Bards tale and that had an option to install 3.5GB!! So for me I have to say my next phone needs to have at least 32GB or larger especially if App2SD can't get working right. I was really hoping the Att GN2 would come in 32 and 64GB flavors.
1 guy posted in the thread I pasted that Titanium backup moves Apps to the SD without issue. I get mine Tuesday I'll be trying it first thing. If it doesn't work I'll have to return it, 10Gb is not enough for Apps now and future.
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I see the SGN2 on ATT only has 16g of memory. Should I wait to see if they get devices with more memory? I understand that you cannot really run apps from the SD card. Could some one please shed some light on this for me?
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My main concern regarding the memory configuration is that I thought I read somewhere in the forums that internal memory has faster access than the SD card expansion memory. My current Galaxy Note is using a 16g internal memory configuration with a 32g Class 10 SD card. I was hoping to go for the 32g option for internal memory if it was going to be made available but maybe the speed benefit isn't that great.
When looking at the pre-order options, I only see the 16g model and it doesn't offer the white version that is listed on Samsung's site! I'm not sure if I should wait a little longer or just dive in now!
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My main concern regarding the memory configuration is that I thought I read somewhere in the forums that internal memory has faster access than the SD card expansion memory. My current Galaxy Note is using a 16g internal memory configuration with a 32g Class 10 SD card. I was hoping to go for the 32g option for internal memory if it was going to be made available but maybe the speed benefit isn't that great.
When looking at the pre-order options, I only see the 16g model and it doesn't offer the white version that is listed on Samsung's site! I'm not sure if I should wait a little longer or just dive in now!
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I'm in the same boat, I would like to get a White 32gb version but I read AT&T is only getting the 16GB and only have grey for now. I'm not sure if I can wait until the white one comes out or not.
16gb isn't going to be enough for me but I do have a 64gb sdxc so I'll just make due.
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1 guy posted in the thread I pasted that Titanium backup moves Apps to the SD without issue. I get mine Tuesday I'll be trying it first thing. If it doesn't work I'll have to return it, 10Gb is not enough for Apps now and future.
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I have Titanium Backup, I don't see any option to move to sd. Anyways I doubt it would work because Samsung did their storage differently with the ExtSdcard vs what it used to be.
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I have Titanium Backup, I don't see any option to move to sd. Anyways I doubt it would work because Samsung did their storage differently with the ExtSdcard vs what it used to be.
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TiBu definitely has the option to move apps to SD. Look under Batch.
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On main page for this forum why the ROM is 64GB when its only 16GB ?
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On main page for this forum why the ROM is 64GB when its only 16GB ?
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The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB (and later 64GB) internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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Yes, it does,
Thanks
ChitownWingMan said:
The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB (and later 64GB) internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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Thats crazy! Back that stuff up to your computer man! lol. I have the 16GB S3 and have only ever filled up the internal SD because i didn't clean it. After i took 10 mins to go through ever file i had, i reclaimed 7 GB! of data.
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Thats crazy! Back that stuff up to your computer man! lol. I have the 16GB S3 and have only ever filled up the internal SD because i didn't clean it. After i took 10 mins to go through ever file i had, i reclaimed 7 GB! of data.
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It has nothing to do with cleaning. It has to do with having over 700 apps installed, some of them using large amounts of data that could not be moved to the SD card. When I clean the dead and unused file I may recover 10 or 20 MB. Not gigabytes.
I backup daily with Titanium and weekly with Nandroid Manager.
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It has nothing to do with cleaning. It has to do with having over 700 apps installed, some of them using large amounts of data that could not be moved to the SD card. When I clean the dead and unused file I may recover 10 or 20 MB. Not gigabytes.
I backup daily with Titanium and weekly with Nandroid Manager.
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Ah them backups suck a lot of memory. Can i ask how one uses 700 apps!? holy crap
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Ah them backups suck a lot of memory. Can i ask how one uses 700 apps!? holy crap
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Some of them are because I'm anal. I have something like 30 camera apps because I just can't decide which one I like best. I am a professional photographer and none of them work like my Nikon D-700 .
I keep downloading the Amazon free app of the day if it looks like an interesting game or utility. I have 10 different calculators (RF, Hex, Construction, Depth of Field, etc). Maybe 30 different games. I have a whole bunch of root/custom configuration apps. Even a bootable copy of Ubuntu.
I use Go Launcher Ex. I have the most commonly used apps on my home page, 2nd most commonly used apps on a second home page.
Everything else is organized into 36 folders in the app tray.
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Some of them are because I'm anal. I have something like 30 camera apps because I just can't decide which one I like best. I am a professional photographer and none of them work like my Nikon D-700 .
I keep downloading the Amazon free app of the day if it looks like an interesting game or utility. I have 10 different calculators (RF, Hex, Construction, Depth of Field, etc). Maybe 30 different games. I have a whole bunch of root/custom configuration apps. Even a bootable copy of Ubuntu.
I use Go Launcher Ex. I have the most commonly used apps on my home page, 2nd most commonly used apps on a second home page.
Everything else is organized into 36 folders in the app tray.
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Im glad thats not my phone sheesh!
I too had a bunch of camera apps, finally just got to it and edited the CM10.1 camera to add/remove the things i like. And i also had 564564646 calculators, being a theoretical physics major not one did everything. I just came across Graphing Calculator - MathPac+ that i am loving now that i modded it. Prolly gonna be my go to one now. I also used the TI emulators.
elesbb said:
Im glad thats not my phone sheesh!
I too had a bunch of camera apps, finally just got to it and edited the CM10.1 camera to add/remove the things i like. And i also had 564564646 calculators, being a theoretical physics major not one did everything. I just came across Graphing Calculator - MathPac+ that i am loving now that i modded it. Prolly gonna be my go to one now. I also used the TI emulators.
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I am leaning towards the JB+ camera app as it seems to be the easiest. However, there are several apps that allow much more control for when I am too lazy to drag out the Nikon.
I use NeoCal in RPN mode for my main calculator but it doesn't handle Hex or Time Value of Money very well.
I sent you a private email about learning Java/Android and an app I would like to write.
thanks in advance...
I'm still waiting for the 64GB version of the SGH-M919.
ChitownWingMan said:
I am leaning towards the JB+ camera app as it seems to be the easiest. However, there are several apps that allow much more control for when I am too lazy to drag out the Nikon.
I use NeoCal in RPN mode for my main calculator but it doesn't handle Hex or Time Value of Money very well.
I sent you a private email about learning Java/Android and an app I would like to write.
thanks in advance...
I'm still waiting for the 64GB version of the SGH-M919.
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I did reply, i hope you got it, i typed quite a bit
But now that CM10.1 has HDR, i love it more Pics look phenomenal on the S3.
And im waiting for my back account to increase for the 16GB SGH-M919
I generally buy tablets with at least 32 gb. I bought the iPad Air with 64 because I learned my lesson with the iPad 2 and filling it up.
When I went to Best Buy to pick up a Note 10.1 2014, they only had the 16 gb model. I could have waited, or picked it up somewhere else, but I wanted to take advantage of Best Buy's financing (18 months no interest) and I hate waiting for things.
After installing all of my apps and downloading the data for them, I have about 6 gb left. The problem is, I read a lot of comics. A typical comic in the Comixology app will run you about 100 mb or so. I delete many of them when I have read them, but I fall behind on my reading fairly regularly and accumulate quite a few. I also have a lot of articles in Pocket that I'm behind on and that takes about 600 mb.
Apps to SD is a myth on Samsung devices. I have confirmed that when you move an app to SD, it just moves it to a folder called "emulated" and really doesn't free up any space. Add to that that Pocket's "store cache on SD" feature isn't working and Comixology won't store comics on the external SD and I can basically only use the SD card slot for movies and music. So, I'm wodering: Will 16 (9) GB be enough? Or do I need to take this thing back and get the 32 gb model?
My real question is: How are those of you with the 16 gb model getting by? Is your internal space filled up? Are you wishing you had the bigger model?
Ive had other tabs that were 16g and as long as I was mindful of where I stored my books and photos I never ran inyo problems. I also make sure my email only syncs 5 days. With my work and personal accounts I get way to many. For reading I use Moonreader because unlike aldiko it doesn't force me to put my books on the device. Hope this helped
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rockjock2020 said:
Ive had other tabs that were 16g and as long as I was mindful of where I stored my books and photos I never ran inyo problems. I also make sure my email only syncs 5 days. With my work and personal accounts I get way to many. For reading I use Moonreader because unlike aldiko it doesn't force me to put my books on the device. Hope this helped
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I have had 16 GB tablets as well, but they generally have much more of that 16 gb available. All of the touchwiz and SPen features leave us with just over 8 GB on this thing. There's also the issue that, if we fill it up completely, it will hurt performance. So we really only have about 6-7 total out of the box.
I'm taking it back and getting the 32GB model. I love the tablet, but I need internal space.
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I generally buy tablets with at least 32 gb. I bought the iPad Air with 64 because I learned my lesson with the iPad 2 and filling it up.
When I went to Best Buy to pick up a Note 10.1 2014, they only had the 16 gb model. I could have waited, or picked it up somewhere else, but I wanted to take advantage of Best Buy's financing (18 months no interest) and I hate waiting for things.
After installing all of my apps and downloading the data for them, I have about 6 gb left. The problem is, I read a lot of comics. A typical comic in the Comixology app will run you about 100 mb or so. I delete many of them when I have read them, but I fall behind on my reading fairly regularly and accumulate quite a few. I also have a lot of articles in Pocket that I'm behind on and that takes about 600 mb.
Apps to SD is a myth on Samsung devices. I have confirmed that when you move an app to SD, it just moves it to a folder called "emulated" and really doesn't free up any space. Add to that that Pocket's "store cache on SD" feature isn't working and Comixology won't store comics on the external SD and I can basically only use the SD card slot for movies and music. So, I'm wodering: Will 16 (9) GB be enough? Or do I need to take this thing back and get the 32 gb model?
My real question is: How are those of you with the 16 gb model getting by? Is your internal space filled up? Are you wishing you had the bigger model?
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You can use Folder Mount to move programs to the SD Card too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en
It works fine on the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition.
Same here thinking of selling my 16gb and get a 32gb. Games alone fills up storage fast. Having an sd car doesnt help either
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Just got a 16GB at Best Buy for the same reason as OP (wanted to use financing, didn't want to wait) - haven't done anything with it yet, but I'm getting more and more nervous that I'm going to run into trouble with the storage space - I expected to be able to move more onto an external SD card, but it sounds like that's not so workable after all?
If I root, I have more options, but I'm reluctant to do that if I don't have to... Anyone else have a similar conundrum?
jimbutsu said:
Just got a 16GB at Best Buy for the same reason as OP (wanted to use financing, didn't want to wait) - haven't done anything with it yet, but I'm getting more and more nervous that I'm going to run into trouble with the storage space - I expected to be able to move more onto an external SD card, but it sounds like that's not so workable after all?
If I root, I have more options, but I'm reluctant to do that if I don't have to... Anyone else have a similar conundrum?
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Not sure if this is an option for you, but I bought the 32 gb model from Newegg with my preferred account. 12 months no payment or interest. And no sales tax unless you live in CA. Taking the 16 back to Best Buy. Better too much space than not enough.
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I have had 16 GB tablets as well, but they generally have much more of that 16 gb available. All of the touchwiz and SPen features leave us with just over 8 GB on this thing. There's also the issue that, if we fill it up completely, it will hurt performance. So we really only have about 6-7 total out of the box.
I'm taking it back and getting the 32GB model. I love the tablet, but I need internal space.
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Really? I have over 11 free ... sm-p600. What version you running?
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dr.m0x said:
Really? I have over 11 free ... sm-p600. What version you running?
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So you have the 16 GB and over 11 GB free? That I can live with, and it's about what I would have expected from the OS and bloatware... I can't decide if I want to try fot the 32 or just deal with the 15 (I'm not going to game with it, and movies/media I'd run off the SD card no matter what)...
I'm in a state of acute analysis paralysis! Someone decide for me...
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So you have the 16 GB and over 11 GB free? That I can live with, and it's about what I would have expected from the OS and bloatware... I can't decide if I want to try fot the 32 or just deal with the 15 (I'm not going to game with it, and movies/media I'd run off the SD card no matter what)...
I'm in a state of acute analysis paralysis! Someone decide for me...
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you'e kind of answered it yourself tbh...Gaming will take up the majority of the space of a tablet. Applications are normally around 20mb to a max of 100mb and some rare ones larger. Games on the other hand well the high graphic games anyways are over a 1GB so space would be an issue if you were to play loads of games.
honestly if you have no intentions of gaming 16GB would be plenty for you although if you could afford the 32GB then go for it since its always nice to have loads of space.
Ofcourse only you can really decide but I'm holiding out for a 32GB because I would like to have atleast a handful of 1GB games to keep me busy when I'm at the airport waiting for my flight or on the flight itself.
As many of you, I'm considering the 16gb model. I have like 2gb of music and another few for apps. My question is, after the OS how much space can we expect to have.
On my Nexus 5, 12.55 GB formatted/installed with no apps installed, which isn't really a possible scenario. FWIW, I have 3.52GB of apps installed, a few megs of images and other, and 517MB of cached data and have 6.4GB left.
Before installing the Marshmallow official version, I was routinely running into storage problems just with downloaded/cached music after a few months of use.
Yeah I was kinda thinking that around 12gb would be free. I have a galaxy s6 now and there is like 9 gb of "other" storage which is prolly all the Verizon crap in addition to the OS.
Something to consider.
I'm on the marshmallow Preview on my Nexus 6 and I've noticed the OS seems to cache higher amounts of data. I'm constantly seeing 1gb cache in my storage and clearing it. Not sure of this is a marshmallow thing or just some weird quirk with the preview build
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Something to consider.
I'm on the marshmallow Preview on my Nexus 6 and I've noticed the OS seems to cache higher amounts of data. I'm constantly seeing 1gb cache in my storage and clearing it. Not sure of this is a marshmallow thing or just some weird quirk with the preview build
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How much space is the preview build?
I preorderd a 16 and 32 and will return one obvi but want to be safe and not regret not getting enough space down the road.
I went 32 just to safe than sorry. Currently my usage on the Nexus 5 I would have 6GB of free space on a 16 model. I got the 32GB in case I decided put my music and a couple of videos on my phone for vacation trips I will be taking this year.
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I saw an unboxing video from a tech blog in India and it showed around 10.6GB available on the 16GB model.
Tidbits said:
I went 32 just to safe than sorry. Currently my usage on the Nexus 5 I would have 6GB of free space on a 16 model. I got the 32GB in case I decided put my music and a couple of videos on my phone for vacation trips I will be taking this year.
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That's been my thinking as well. 32GB is really the minimum if you want to have some media files on hand for those (admittedly rare) moments when there's no internet connection.
I don't need my entire music collection or video collection, just a few albums and a couple HD episodes or a movie as backup. Oh and a few games, most of which are getting into the 2GB+ sizes (Hearthstone, etc.)
Also if someone intends to record 4k videos it would be advised not to go with the 16GB version.
Hopefully this won't be a problem at all. I imagine we will get "lite" roms and such. Something tells me it will be manageable.
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As many of you, I'm considering the 16gb model. I have like 2gb of music and another few for apps. My question is, after the OS how much space can we expect to have.
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As its a pure android phone the software won't take a large space.I think 12.5 GB will be available for users.I don't think 16 GB model is right choice but if you doesn't download many apps and games then its a good option.
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As its a pure android phone the software won't take a large space.I think 12.5 GB will be available for users.I don't think 16 GB model is right choice but if you doesn't download many apps and games then its a good option.
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It's already been shown in video that the available space in the 16 GB is around 10.6 GB. As previously stated in the thread.
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EeZeEpEe said:
It's already been shown in video that the available space in the 16 GB is around 10.6 GB. As previously stated in the thread.
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Are they sure nothing was installed? For example Google story can take 3-4 GB if you download the stories.
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Tidbits said:
Are they sure nothing was installed? For example Google story can take 3-4 GB if you download the stories.
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Pretty sure they went to settings, storage and under "Total space" was 10.6 GB. I gotta find the video but forgot which one it was.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Pretty sure they went to settings, storage and under "Total space" was 10.6 GB. I gotta find the video but forgot which one it was.
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Pay me no mind I got the 32GB. Honestly if I just stick with my most use apps I would only need 8GB on the phone. I got the 32GB only because I am taking a lengthy vacation. Might want to carry a few movies and also might take a lot of photos and videos while out and about.
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Pay me no mind I got the 32GB. Honestly if I just stick with my most use apps I would only need 8GB on the phone. I got the 32GB only because I am taking a lengthy vacation. Might want to carry a few movies and also might take a lot of photos and videos while out and about.
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Ditto. 32GB ordered and I still have Sprint grandfathered original unlimited data so I stream all my music and video. Can't go wrong with double the space for $50.
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Note: if a Google Play Music user, be sure to disable "Cache during playback" and you'll save yourself some space.
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