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Hi all,
Just set my XDA2s up for my gmail acount.
All is fine, I can receive and send mail no problems.
However, if I have a message in my inbox which I have read it gets deleted on the next send/receive.
I cannot find a way to tell it to keep my messages until I delete them manually...
Any ideas?
Rich
I have exactly the same problem.
Anyone knows?
gmail.
Me go try.
Never thought of using gmail on the qtek.
same here... i thought it was only with imate jams...
I don't have that problem here.
I only see option to remove deleted items manually or automatic.
its under storage.
Hi,
That option purely manages what to do with items marked as deleted. Not those in the inbox.
I am glad others see the problem. How do you have things set up?
I set my gmail not to archive or delete the items I download and read. However, I can't help but think that this is a setting with the XDA2s.
R
There's no thing wrong with your XDA IIs or Gmail.
Go into the settings of your gmail account on your XDA IIs. At the "Server information" screen, there is an "Options" button. Go into the Options screen. On the last screen,
* If you choose "Get full copy of messages" your messages will be deleted off of the server once you do a "Send/Receive Mail" This is common for all POP3 servers. Gmail has a special option in the "Mail Settings/Forwarding and POP" for you to "Keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox" even if you do a "Get a full copy of messages" Other POP3 servers don't have this special option so emails will get deleted. To keep it consistent with other POP3 servers in case you have multiple email accounts, just select "Trash Gmail's copy"
* If you choose "Get message headers only" and include 999K (32K is about a screen full of email) you will still see most of the body of your emails once you do a "Send/Receive Mail" but your emails won't be deleted off of the server. Now... if you realize some of the emails are SPAM and you want do delete them off of the server to save yourself from downloading those SPAM mails again to your desktop email software, you can click on the SPAM mail and "Mark for download". Then do a "Send/Receive Mail". Those emails that are marked for download will then be downloaded to your XDA IIs and deleted from the server. On your XDA IIs, you can just delete them once the "Send/Receive Mail" is done.
Hope it helps.
Does anyone kn ow why I keep getting a message "Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure that you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again". I'm sure that my settings are correct. I can send emails OK - it's just will not down.load them. Any ideas?
Hi Suntingwong,
This does not appear to help unfortunately. The problem is not what happes to the mail at the gmail side but at the ppc side. No matter what I do, once I have read (or downloaded and read) a mail in my XDA2s's inbox it is removed from the XDA2s's inbox at the next send/receive. It is not sent to the deleted folder - just removed. I am after a way to keep it in the inbox as read, as you would logically expect it to be.
Rich
I can confirm the above.
It seems that each time you go over the send and recive you inbox is reset to empty. Thus what you had downloaded (as header or full text), and read just goes into never never land.
I am not sure what the differnese is betwwen the 2 icons at the bottom, both push your mail.
I have been lost on this one for a long time, adding to it I have also been lost on how I can sync my pop.mail with my outlook pst for the sent items and inbox.
Seems like the sysnc only goes Between the default mal box, which meens I CANT configer as pop. So I cant send unless I am attached to the desktop over that mail box.
Its concept that I don't understand and have yet to find a soulution.
http://pumaweb2.pumatech.com/ts-board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=21;t=000099
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Hi Suntingwong,
This does not appear to help unfortunately. The problem is not what happes to the mail at the gmail side but at the ppc side. No matter what I do, once I have read (or downloaded and read) a mail in my XDA2s's inbox it is removed from the XDA2s's inbox at the next send/receive. It is not sent to the deleted folder - just removed. I am after a way to keep it in the inbox as read, as you would logically expect it to be.
Rich
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Sorry I misread your question. I was thinking you were bothered by emails getting deleted from gmail whenever they got downloaded to your PPC.
I only use my PPC to quickly screen mails so this is not a problem for me. As long as I don't download emails from the server (set just to get header and 999K of body) then my emails won't get deleted from the server nor the PPC until I downloaded them to my desktop email software or when I delete them manually from my PPC.
Now if you want to keep your emails in your PPC no matter what happened to them on the server (got downloaded, etc...) You can mark your emails as "not read" whenever you're done reading them. That will keep them from being removed from your PPC. It's an arduous thing to do but it seems to be the only way...
Hope it helps
There has got to be a better solution than that.
I have the same problem as well, and would really like to see a fix.
You must enter in the settings of your account (upper right corner) and go to "Forwarding and POP". There you have this options:
1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 1/1/05
Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)
Enable POP only for mail that arrives from now on
Disable POP
Yoy must select the first option (Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)), click on "Save changes" and now the messages dont disappear when you read it in your PPC.
Saludos.
I was sad to find out that the IIs only retains 6 email accounts. It seams that this problem isn't only inharent to gmail account. I have configured 3 of my own domain pop3 accounts. When I download the email to my IIs, the emails on my IIs disappear the next time I send/receive.
segoz
Look I feel like a real dumb a**.
I cant work your fix as I cant find that setting. Top right is a drop down for me (From, recived date, subject.)
In accounts I get 1/4 and see nothing on the next 3 pages that does anything for me.
Were should I be as it seems its not in messaging.
This is my observation... wondering if any body sees the same thing.
1. If the message is no longer on the server, upon the next Send/Receive, the message is removed from PPC.
2. If a message is not read on PPC, it will not be removed from PPC no matter if it is still on the server or not
2. There is no universal rules as to when a message is removed from the server when it is accessed via POP3
3. For gmail, this is configurable (Mail Settings>Forwarding and POP>[keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox, archive Gmail's copy, trash Gmai's copy])
4. For adelphia.net, a message is not removed no matter if only header or full body is downloaded. A message is only removed when accessed via desktop email software (if the software is NOT configured to leave a copy of the email on ther server)
5. For netzero.net, a messsage is not removed from the server if only header is downloaded to PPC. A message is removed from the server if full body is downloaded PPC.
So if one wants to keep a copy of gmail's email on the PPC, one has to set up Gmail to "keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox" in the "Forwarding and POP" setting.
One also must configure desktop email to keep a copy on the server. For Outlook 2003, this setting is found on the "Advanced" tab right under the POP3/SMTP port settings.
That's some good observations sumtingwong. I could care less about gmail since all junk go through gmail. I'm more conserned about my domain pop accounts' email disappearing from my PPC. I will leave the messages on all 3 dedicated servers for the next few day to test your observations. stay tuned..
ps. damn this site is crawling. is it getting DDoS'ed?
Site's been crawling for days now........new servers?
Anyway - i can find no way to stop the mails dissapearing on the PPC. So, I have worked round it by creating a 'keep' folder and I simply move the mails I want to that after reading them. Not ideal but it works for now.
R
I left the messages on my mail servers while picking up full email from my PPC mail client. As sumtingwong posted, the mail doesn't disappear from my PPC anymore. I have successfuly sent received mail the past 3 days on 3 different email servers. All email are still on my PPC. I will delete all mail from the servers and see if the emails remain on the PPC.
ps. I pick up mail on both my own email servers and gmail.
I'm starting to get annoyed. Just recently, my Gmail emails are disappearing. But my emails from my own email servers are still on my PPC which doesn't disappear like the Gamil emails. The most anoying thing is, when I delete the emails from my PPC that belongs to my email servers, the same emails are redownloaded again. It's like the PPC email client doen't know the emails have already been downloaded. This doesn't happen to my other phones with email clients.
WTF, are there any other email clients we can use instead of the built in POS Outlook?
Why do my Emails auto Delete or disapear after i read them and the phone does its auto check to see if i have anymore new email? i want the Emails to Archive or atleast stay on my device till i choose to delete them...
If your connected to an imap server (i.e. Yahoo mail) then it could be a setting that only shows the last 3 days of e-mails.
Go into the Account settings for your e-mail setup and you'll see this option. It doesn't actually "delete" the e-mails, it just erases them from the phone when they get old enough -- but they still exist on the server.
You can set it for longer, or just have ALL e-mails from your server show up on your phone. (if this is the case).
After i read any message, After Every (sync *every 5 min* cant find DP settings ANYWHERE on the phone) it removes what i read! and its really frustrating! iv tried changing the setting to show "Entire Inbox" instead of "Last 3 Days" and still nothing... it just removes what iv read every sync....
Had the Desire for about a week and like it a lot but will have to return it because Exchange sync doesn't work and that's a key feature for me.
1. Set up account and set 1 home screen to the mail widget and for a couple of days it worked perfectly until I saw new emails on the home screen widget that didn't appear in the mail app itself! How can the widget apparently be more up to date than the source of the data - the mail app?
2. After this could no longer sync e-mail - it appears that contacts and calendar sync but e-mail shows "sync protocol error"
3. Removed account and set it up again and it worked perfectly for about 24 hours and then exactly the same thing happened. Removed account, removed battery, reset account and its working again....for about a day before I get the same result (home screen widget showing e-mails that aren't showing on the mail app itself and I get sync error).
4. Removed all apps and reset to factory settings and set up account again but the same thing has happened again after about a day. It seems that if it tries to sync and can't connect because there's no signal eg I'm on underground then it locks and can no longer sync
It's Microsoft Exchange server 2003 SP2 and colleagues have no problem with i phones or blackberries and I've been using WM phones for years without any problems. Unfortunately phone is useless to me if this doesn't work and disappointed that HTC claiming feature that in my case clearly doesnt work
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Forgot to say that although I wasn't getting any e-mail update I was able to send e-mails all the time that this was going on! So I could send but not receive.
apart from a similar issue the first few days in, my Desire sync's fine with my exchange 2007 server. although I've not used the mail widget
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fredfox_uk said:
apart from a similar issue the first few days in, my Desire sync's fine with my exchange 2007 server. although I've not used the mail widget
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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After posting the above, I had this happen again this evening. If occurred when the connection changed from "H" to "G" I'm missing 55 mails
I'll have to try and figure out what's happening
I've had exchange working great for the last 3 weeks. Then it decided to stop working. I've deleted the account and re created it and no joy. Just won't sync. I'm gonna try with moxier now and see if that works.
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Identical problem here with my Desire.
It is not just a simple receive problem because I can delete emails from the main "Inbox" folder, than switch to the "Deleted Items" folder, sync and retreive the emails I've just deleted.
But syncing the main "Inbox" folder is not working anymore.
Seems like internal index data for that folder is broken.
This is not a server problem because just deleting the sync account and re-creating it magically fixes it until something screws up again.
This is clearly a case of bad application coding. Damn try-catch statements
Had the same problem myself on 2 different phones, I found that going into account settings and doing a save without changing anything (it says it is checking your password) fixes it.
Seems to happen if you make a lot of changes via outlook and the phone looses its place.
LM
MufDvr said:
Had the same problem myself on 2 different phones, I found that going into account settings and doing a save without changing anything (it says it is checking your password) fixes it.
Seems to happen if you make a lot of changes via outlook and the phone looses its place.
LM
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Tried, but does not work for me.
I wonder if the application event logs on the Exchange server will give more information on the failure? Is SSL set up correctly? Some people have been having problems with self-issued certificates.
fredfox_uk said:
After posting the above, I had this happen again this evening. If occurred when the connection changed from "H" to "G" I'm missing 55 mails
I'll have to try and figure out what's happening
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Funny you mention about it breaking when going from "H" to "G". I thought I had seen bandwidth related success with my exchange syncing. On WIFI, I could sync the whole inbox, but I would get failures when trying on 3G. I then reduced the inbox to "last 7 days only" and it worked. Going back to higher bandwidth, suddenly I could have the whole inbox without sync errors.
Deleting & recreating Exchange sync account works
For me, deleting and recreating the Exchange sync account workedto get rid of "Sync protocol error". Not funny, but at least there's a way out.
So far so good...
Suspecting some local index file is broken if the sync task is suddenly aborted, I have avoided killing any task and guess what ? So far so good...
Will keep you informed.
P.S. Even if this is the real issue, the sync code is BROKEN.
Hi,
Has anybody gotten to the bottom of this? I've found several threads about the same error across several HTC phones on several different forums.
Deleting and re-adding the account seems like a last resort?
All my contacts are synched via Exchange so if i delete it i assume i lose all of them? And then would i lose corresponding text messages? Anything else? Do all my links to Facebook, Flickr etc get lost? I can see some weird strings of code in my contacts on Outlook now so is the Desire clever enough to pick these up and link everything back together again?
If i can get everything back by just re-adding the account then I'll give it a go but it really does seem far from ideal.
Hi all,
Sorry to bump but i've still not taken the step of deleting my exchange account through fear of losing information.
Obviously it will delete my contacts but will it also delete corresponding SMSs, links to facebook, twitter etc (in Outlook I can see some funny code strings in each contact which i think may be the links)?
Basically, will anything be permanently lost or will i simply need to re-add the account to get everything back as it was?
Is there a way to back up my contacts first? HTC Sync?
Thanks
When I removed an Exchange account from the stock mail app it didn't remove the linking data (which appears in the notes field of your contacts). And there would be no reason for it to delete SMSes, although with the contacts gone, it may not be able to link the phone numbers to names.
HTC Sync could sync your contacts to a separate Outlook installation, or you could use one of the many backup apps (search around here for reviews).
I've only had my Desire for 24 hours but I elected to go with Touchdown right from the get-go after advice from a colleague. So far, it's working a treat (fingers crossed it stays that way). Is anyone here using TD and experiencing these issues, or is it just with the native mail app?
I have a simular issue where Exchange mail stops receiving and sending emails. I only pick up that there is an issue, when attempting to send a email.
This happens regularly, and I have reported this issue to HTC.
My fix when this occurs is to untick and retick SSL option and save.
Well i've removed and re-added the exchange account and so far everything seems to be working ok. Will keep you folks posted - hopefully it doesn't happen again!
Chaps,
Just joined, but I think I have your answer... Task Killer. If you run any of the task killer apps, they can kill the exchange as it is happening, leaving the inbox status in a corrupt state, and the only way to fix this is to delete the account and start over. But then, if the task killer kills the sync, you will have to do it oveer, and over again. Task Killers are great for killing the main apps, but use them on the desire in manual mode only, and only kill the main apps, not the background processes.
Regards
Jaffa
I don't believe it is caused by task killers - I use Advanced Task Killer but it doesn't even list email as open even though it is. I noticed my inbox started having issues after changing sync from 7 days to 14 - it kept re-downloading the last few messages, then after 1 day simply stopped updating the inbox. All other folders fine. I suspect it's a space/size issue - some reports from POP users sound similar. HTC / Android really need to address this. Slowly getting sick of my HTC Legend...(Legendary failure!)
Hello, I'm a bit confused at this problem. I just yesterday upgraded to WinMo 6.5. Seems to be working fine except my gmail account isn't working right. (It was working on 6.1). When I click send/receive, it doesn't download any messages (even though I have download messages from last 3 days).
It just says: Connecting, logging on, looking for changes, finished.
However, when I *send* e-mails, they recipients get them.
What am I doing wrong?? I didn't use exchange or outlook or any of that stuff. When I was setting up my phone from startup I Just put in my userID and password.
Also another side question: I Would like to install a custom rom, but since the devs are updating and making fixes very often... how am I to update them? Would I have to hard reset and install it all over again for the minor bug fixes?
Thanks
are you using pop3 and not imap for fetching the messages?
did you setup the account by typing server addresses or by selecting gmail.
you are probably using POP3 and those missing messages get downloaded already to your PC.
imap is working more smoothly for me. is more advanced and newer, just it could take little more data.
set the account manually, you have to go around little to do so, on first screen, when asked to put your email address, mistype it, don't put gmail there for now. "[email protected]"
go through all settings, set it to imap and then go back through option to edit that account and fix your address.
-don't forget to allow imap access in your gmail account through web-mail in internet browser
if you insist on POP3, chenk other devices you use for mail if there is "leave messages on server" option ON
i am not quite sure now, been not using POP on gmail for a long time, but I have a feeling that gmail's interpretation of POP is IGNORING "leaving messages on server" option, so having 2 devices POPing mail is not possible and you'll need to use IMAP at least on one
Also another side question: I Would like to install a custom rom, but since the devs are updating and making fixes very often... how am I to update them? Would I have to hard reset and install it all over again for the minor bug fixes?
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you have only three options
1. ignore updates
2. just download updated app and install it over the old one.
- not recommended if you don't know about how OEMs are working,
2. yes update always and then you can have a lot of different tools to help you get back where you finish with the old one. backup/restore, provisioning scripts, reg files. and though you will need to set quite a few things first time, to match your needs and private settings, after that, every time you flash or format, you are where you've been.
I made couple of them too, packup is working just fine for me,
you can try sdautorun and place your settings in CABs on SD card too.
Thank you, it seemed to work. I had deselected and reselected Imap, did a send/receive and nothing happened. Set my phone to charge and then I come back and all my e-mails had been downloaded.
Thanks for the custom rom info. I think I'll just stick on stock 6.5 for now. If the ram usage gets too much then I'll go for energy rom.
Let me start off by saying that this issue has had me running in circles going batsh!t crazy for weeks now. Generally speaking, Exchange contacts and mail worked for me right out of the box using the built in Sense Mail and continued to work through several iterations of the Fresh ROM. Definitely occasional issues but all in all it worked. And, since I was constantly experimenting with new ROMs, I always just assumed it was me who had done something when syncing stopped working.
That said, after weeks of no tweaking Exchange Mail suddenly stopped working and despite all efforts I can't get it to work well again. Moxier, Roadsync, and Touchdown all work without a hitch. And, even the AOSP Email app I used when trying out Cyanogen continued to sync despite the occasional "connection error." Unfortunately, I would really prefer to use the built in Sense Mail app and hope someone here can help me fix whatever it is that is not working.
What Works and What Doesn't:
Exchange Mail - If I delete the account and start over I can nearly always set the account up but, on occasion get continuous "Failure, Try Again Later" dialogs. Once set up, the phone immediately starts trying to sync. The most frequent result at this point is no mail shows up but the syncing icon will spin for hours to no avail. However, if I go to view the folders, I can see my different folders which are clearly from my exchange account. However, sometimes after I set the account up and it starts syncing, some mail WILL start to show up in the inbox (10-20 messages) but then stop while the sync icon spins indefinitely.
Exchange Contacts - Always worked and continues to work
Exchange Calendar - From the very beginning had "connection timeout socket" issues but so I use a workaround using Google Calendar Sync. I am perfectly fine with this workaround so, if it can't be fixed it is no big deal.
Numerous times I have tried
-deleting and re-adding the account
-changing up the sync options
-wiping the phone and re-flashing ROM's (including stock)
-Using apps that prevent the phone from locking
-screaming and yelling
If anyone can help I would be very grateful. I also attached a logcat that ran this morning.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4716709/Log.txt
hmmmm...
For clarification:
After a hard reset, no rooting, no ROM, just a plain stock 2.2 EVO, you cannot sync Exchange mail? Contacts are OK, and Calendar requires workaround?
I would check with your IT dept and see if they have any restrictions on device synchronization. Ensure they are running at least Exchange 2007, and try having them delete the synchronization from the server-side.
I would test on a different EVO, preferably one that has never been rooted or flashed. Does your account sync, or can you duplicate the symptoms?
Fully stock EVO has the same inconsistencies. I'm on my second EVO due to a screen issue with the first one and was traveling so didn't root the new one for about a week and had same issues. Additionally, there is someone in our IT dept with an EVO who has had the same issues but, lacking my perseverance (or stupidity) gave up for touchdown.
It seems to be completely isolated to the HTC Mail app because even if I install the AOSP Email app on a Sense Rom I can sync email fine. Unfortunately, the AOSP Email app has little functionality in comparison and what I like most is the full screen widget of the Sense...
okolowicz said:
Fully stock EVO has the same inconsistencies. I'm on my second EVO due to a screen issue with the first one and was traveling so didn't root the new one for about a week and had same issues. Additionally, there is someone in our IT dept with an EVO who has had the same issues but, lacking my perseverance (or stupidity) gave up for touchdown.
It seems to be completely isolated to the HTC Mail app because even if I install the AOSP Email app on a Sense Rom I can sync email fine. Unfortunately, the AOSP Email app has little functionality in comparison and what I like most is the full screen widget of the Sense...
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Check your settings for SSL and TLS. Maybe something is off there. Also check how much mail you are trying to sync and the size of the mails you're trying to download. These are all in the account settings.
Also find out if your IT dept has changed anything on their end. I had issues when upgraded from Exchange 2007 to Exchange 2010, it could be something related to that also...
Perhaps you can provide your settings and we can take a look. It's hard to pinpoint a problem without specific info.
there are some good suggestions in the thread already, but I have something relatively basic you could try. At anytime after deleting your exchange info, did you ever go into manage applications and see if there was any data still in the mail app, and if so, did you try to clear the data and cache before reloading your exchange info?
Regarding the amount of mail I am trying to sync, I've tried the default 14 days down to 3 days with no difference in reliability. I've also tried changing up the allowed size of emails from anywhere between 10kb and entire mail but still no consistency.
The settings I use are pretty straight forward and haven't messed around too much because I haven't seen to many areas to tweak. The server address is mail.companyname.com and the domain is companynameI've tried with and without the SSL box checked which has made no real difference.
What makes it frustrating is the inconsistency. For example, yesterday I deleted and set the account up again with another combination of settings and email started syncing almost immediately. But, as is typical, after syncing the first 20 messages or so nothing else showed up and the sync icon spun indefinitely. And, contacts of course synced without issue.
If there are other settings you recommend me looking at, please let me know.
fachadick had an excellent suggestion. I've seen similar sync issues when the local cache remains even after having removed the account (client-side), or if a particular mailbox in Exchange was previously synced with a Windows Mobile device (server-side).
1. Try removing the account from your EVO, and wiping out the local cache in Settings - Applications - Manage Applications (the 'All' tab). Check every app that is associated: Calendar, Calendar storage, Calendar Sync Adapter, Contacts Storage, etc, etc
2. Have your IT dept delete any and all sync relationships on the server side.
After these two items, reboot your phone, wait a while, and try again. Question: what version of Exchange does your company run?