Scratches on the laser glass - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Well, I've had the G4 for a week and I've noticed that the focus laser glass gets easily scratched. It already has various scratches, they're really hard to see, yes, but they're there and I hate them. The laser works perfectly, but I want to know if this is normal, if I've done something bad or if this has happened to you too. Is hard to change this glass? Are there any stores selling it?
Thanks in advance.

I would say as long as you don't get any deep scratches there's nothing to worry about, I have the same marks on mine (and I'm sure we're not the only ones) and all works perfectly

I've had my G4 for 5 days now. I don't have a case (just black leather back), and haven't noticed any scratches on the laser/camera/led yet.

Just cover up the laser glass with your finger and take a test shot.
I didn't notice ANY difference with or without it, at this moment with my un-professional experiment - I conclude it's a gimmick.

eitama said:
Just cover up the laser glass with your finger and take a test shot.
I didn't notice ANY difference with or without it, at this moment with my un-professional experiment - I conclude it's a gimmick.
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Damn, you're so right. I didn't notice any difference. I'm shocked.

I can smell these gimmicks from a mile away. They call it laser focus, but it emits IR. It's so small I don't it can produce enough Light to make a change.
Still, I love the G4 and it's Uber camera.
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eitama said:
I can smell these gimmicks from a mile away. They call it laser focus, but it emits IR. It's so small I don't it can produce enough Light to make a change.
Still, I love the G4 and it's Uber camera.
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So I should forget about these scratches, I think.

eitama said:
Just cover up the laser glass with your finger and take a test shot.
I didn't notice ANY difference with or without it, at this moment with my un-professional experiment - I conclude it's a gimmick.
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It's not a gimmick. its a range finder. it figures out distance so the lens does not have to hunt to get focus. Its an assist to the contrast detection AF. Speeds it up. How do you know you got focus, you have to go over the hill then backtrack. This is where the hunting happens. Instead if you an get distance you just move to the right spot, fine tune, done.
They introduced with the G3 because the G2 was slow and kept hunting. There is still hunt but its less. That they continued with it in the G4 means they are satisfied with it. Not only that they went ahead and introduced a colour spectrum sensor to improve white balance.
the laser wont work through glass as it gets reflected that is when the system falls back to contrast detection.

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It's not a gimmick. its a range finder. it figures out distance so the lens does not have to hunt to get focus. Its an assist to the contrast detection AF. Speeds it up. How do you know you got focus, you have to go over the hill then backtrack. This is where the hunting happens. Instead if you an get distance you just move to the right spot, fine tune, done.
They introduced with the G3 because the G2 was slow and kept hunting. There is still hunt but its less. That they continued with it in the G4 means they are satisfied with it. Not only that they went ahead and introduced a colour spectrum sensor to improve white balance.
the laser wont work through glass as it gets reflected that is when the system falls back to contrast detection.
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Can I replace this plastic?

Javinotfound said:
Can I replace this plastic?
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Looking at parts it seems like a rear housing is required. Ask LG. Maybe they might have just the plastic only.
But its not necessary in your case, not yet. However camera lens is easy to replace.
if you use a diztronic case it adds a layer so that the scratches are less. Its thin and offers protection. Not the same as naked but then you don't have these sorts of headaches.

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Ask LG. Looking at parts it seems like a rear housing is required.
But its not necessary in your case, not yet. Camera lens is easy to replace.
if you use a diztronic case it adds a layer so that the scratches are less. Its thin and offers protection. Not the same as naked but then you don't have these sorts of headaches.
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So I can't change laser plastic without changing camera lens, right?

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So I can't change laser plastic without changing camera lens, right?
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no, you misunderstood. I just mentioned camera lens is easy to replace. it does not have anything to do with your question.
Look at the rear housing part.
All you want is the red plastic part. I don't know if this small red plastic is available separately.
It looks like you have to get the entire rear housing just to replace that red plastic.
So ask LG and confirm here what they told you

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no, you misunderstood. I just mentioned camera lens is easy to replace. it does not have anything to do with your question.
Look at the rear housing part.
All you want is the red plastic part. I don't know if this small red plastic is available separately.
It looks like you have to get the entire rear housing just to replace that red plastic.
So ask LG and confirm here what they told you
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Oh, I see, I'll ask them later as soon I get home. If I can replace it, I'll buy one in a future, if the plastic ends bad. I hope it's not much expensive.

i think you have to get the rear housing because the red laser port plastic its attached to it.
price is USD $35 on that site, ballpark figure, maybe less from LG service centre.
This phone is easy and costs less to repair than other more pretty phones

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i think you have to get the rear housing because the red laser port plastic its attached to it.
price is USD $35 on that site, ballpark figure, maybe less from LG service centre.
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I didn't buy the G4 to LG, so I don't know if they can sell me this.

Ask at the LG service centre and tell us what happened.

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Ask at the LG service centre and tell us what happened.
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They said we can buy it to them. No price was told me, but we can if we ever have a problem. I'm relaxed now.
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Javinotfound said:
They said we can buy it to them. No price was told me, but we can if we ever have a problem. I'm relaxed now.
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Just that red window port thing ? sure ?

One Twelve said:
Just that red window port thing ? sure ?
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The full rear house piece, I guess.

Ah yes, if you asked the price we would know for sure

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Camera lens protector ideas

A lot of people have talked their fear of the camera lens becoming scratched.
It got me thinking. Would part of screen protector work? Would it affect the camera?
I remember having a Zagg InvisibleShield for an old iPod Nano (full body) and the circular cutout for the middle of the wheel was quite like a lens cover.
So, maybe someone could get something like this to market, if there was enough demand. With the right tools, it could be made by cutting holes in screen protectors.
I also saw this, which echoes my sentiments nicely.
Isn't the lens glass Gorilla Glass too? If it is Gorilla then no point having a shield.
thermalboyz said:
Isn't the lens glass Gorilla Glass too? If it is Gorilla then no point having a shield.
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why is it no point? try to rub some fine sand on the display and see how it looks then. keys would probably not hurt it nor knifes but some fuxing sand could give you pretty nice scratches. try it if you don't believe me.
aameerp said:
A lot of people have talked their fear of the camera lens becoming scratched.
It got me thinking. Would part of screen protector work? Would it affect the camera?
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I can understand your concern, but I definitely wouldn't put anything like a screen protector directly on the lens. Any kind of coating can cause serious degredation of image quality.
I wanted to know about this too, there are scratches on my DHD lens cover and I don't want to have it on my one x when it comes.
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A screen protector on the camera lens will most definitely degrade the photo- and video quality.
One reason I prefer pouches over cases.
i will be looking for a case that puts enough bulk on the back to block contact.
I originally posted this in the reviews thread, thought it was relevant repeating here:
Been trawling through the reviews all day. Even more excited now! Almost all concerns laid to rest except one: The protruding camera lens and it's ease of damage/scratches. One of my favourite sites (that always seen to match my opinions anyway) is Trustedreviews.com, and just finished going over their review, and seen something quite worrying that the reviewer doesn't pick up on. Check out the close up he has taken of the camera lens...
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Now it's not just me right? Those are scuffs on the rim and a couple of scratches and what certainly looks like a crack (it's even casting a shadow) on the lens? I am going to e-mail him to ask if he dropped it, but after seeing a demo video of it being in a tumble dryer for 8 hours, I would love to then see a picture of it's camera lens afterwards. Maybe a case is in order when I take this thing outside!
Full review can be found here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-one-x_Mobile-Phone_review
wnp_79 said:
I originally posted this in the reviews thread, thought it was relevant repeating here:
Been trawling through the reviews all day. Even more excited now! Almost all concerns laid to rest except one: The protruding camera lens and it's ease of damage/scratches. One of my favourite sites (that always seen to match my opinions anyway) is Trustedreviews.com, and just finished going over their review, and seen something quite worrying that the reviewer doesn't pick up on. Check out the close up he has taken of the camera lens...
Now it's not just me right? Those are scuffs on the rim and a couple of scratches and what certainly looks like a crack (it's even casting a shadow) on the lens? I am going to e-mail him to ask if he dropped it, but after seeing a demo video of it being in a tumble dryer for 8 hours, I would love to then see a picture of it's camera lens afterwards. Maybe a case is in order when I take this thing outside!
Full review can be found here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-one-x_Mobile-Phone_review
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Yea he dropped it. You can see on the casing in the top right corner also.
You don't have a camera that protrudes that much without it being damaged.
A pouch sounds like the best idea, a neoprene one.
Official pouch is leather with microfiber inside - should cover this problem well enough.
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yup pouch is the easy solution, when you take it out place it on the pouch instead of touching direci the surface
a bit of an expensive (not really if you think what you are covering) solution would be to get one of the screen protectors (clear one so it doesn't affect that much the results of the camera) and try to cut a piece to fit on the camera lens, if possible...
exotikos said:
a bit of an expensive (not really if you think what you are covering) solution would be to get one of the screen protectors (clear one so it doesn't affect that much the results of the camera) and try to cut a piece to fit on the camera lens, if possible...
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Kind of (entirely) defeats the purpose of putting decent optics in the phone if you're going to stick plastic over the top of it.
hopscotchjunkie said:
Kind of (entirely) defeats the purpose of putting decent optics in the phone if you're going to stick plastic over the top of it.
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Scratching it isn't any better, I guess.
I've got some small scratches too (already), but I've been extremely careful with the device.
Gibeon said:
Scratching it isn't any better, I guess.
I've got some small scratches too (already), but I've been extremely careful with the device.
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On your One X??
that sucks......well, you cant have a camera lens like that without it scratching honestly.
Best to get a pouch or a case that does something to prevent it from being scratched.
And putting a protector on the lens is not a good idea. Degrades photo quality quite a lot
If only there were a way someone could make one that's removable as needed, a la old school cameras, one that would click onto the outer rim and just relax there.
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http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
It's a bit obnoxious... but for those to whom it matters, it wouldn't be a horrid idea.
x3phyr said:
If only there were a way someone could make one that's removable as needed, a la old school cameras, one that would click onto the outer rim and just relax there.
EDIT:
http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
It's a bit obnoxious... but for those to whom it matters, it wouldn't be a horrid idea.
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Something like that, but with a smooth surface and better tapered onto the body, would be ideal. Just a mill or two more height than the lens cover glass would be enough... Question is, would that be enough to prevent the speaker dock working?
Something similar to the Case Mate Barely There case I had for the Desire HD would do the trick. The Desire HD lense also stuck out, but it was indented slightly by a raised metal rim, unlike the HTC One X which is completely flat. Even this slight indentation prevented the lense from being scrathed when putting the phone down.
The case was very thin and slight so hopefully Case Mate will be coming out with something similar for the HTC One X, but until it is available I'm going to get an official pouch as I'm terrified not only of scrathing the lense, but even the coating on the back of the housing which seems incredibly soft
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Official pouch is leather with microfiber inside - should cover this problem well enough.
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I have this and feels like a good quality products. Just waiting for my phone to put it in now. Thick enough to protect against drops but small enough not to add too much additional bulk to the phone. Plus the fact it polishes the screen is great.

(gauging interest) Slickwraps Camera Lens Protector

***PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE UP TOP***
So, after seeing questions on the XDA forums and over at Reddit asking about this, i pitched the idea to Weston over @slickwraps and he immediately replied with some interest and sent out some samples to me for testing.
I believe he said this material is 99.5% optically clear so I set out to take a couple test shots before and after to see if they reduced the quality of the images any.
On to the pics.
How they arrive
WITHOUT Lense Protector
bamboo android without protector
bamboo android WITH protector
Bowling Champ! without protector
Bowling Champ! WITH protector
as you can see, the quality is consistent between all images...nothing you are going to notice with every day use.
Fit of the product was spot on, Installation was a breeze. the protector could be a little thicker so the camera "ring" isn't touching the surface, but I'm pretty sure that would hinder the clearity. as it sits, the protector is right about level with the metal camera ring.
overall I am pleased, and like the title says, Weston just wanted me to Gauge interest for the product. No word on pricing or anything, just trying to get the word out on these and see if it would be worth it for SW to start mass producing them.
let me know what you think! also any comments/criticism are welcome.
I would possibly be interested in this. Depends on pricing. I can just see the lens cover getting scratched up easily without something protecting it leaving you with sub par pictures, not that it takes great pictures to begin with.
unless there like 2 bucks with shipping i dont see why anyone wouldn't just get a full phone case. with one the camera is so where near touching any surface.
A protector for your camera lens is pointless as most, if not all, high end phones use sapphire glass which has a 9H rating and much stronger than the glass on your display. The only thing that can scratch it is a diamond and given the amount of pressure it would take to break it, your phone would get crushed before it does.
TheAtheistOtaku said:
unless there like 2 bucks with shipping i dont see why anyone wouldn't just get a full phone case. with one the camera is so where near touching any surface.
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Because there are lots of people that like a naked device....me included
tkoreaper said:
A protector for your camera lens is pointless as most, if not all, high end phones use sapphire glass which has a 9H rating and much stronger than the glass on your display. The only thing that can scratch it is a diamond and given the amount of pressure it would take to break it, your phone would get crushed before it does.
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Does the N5 have sapphire glass though? Haven't checked myself but I hear people like you saying most high end phones have it....then others saying they wished the N5 did have it.
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It'd depend on how it attached, but I might be interested in this kind of thing. I'd much rather have my keys nick this than the lens proper.
roustabout said:
It'd depend on how it attached, but I might be interested in this kind of thing. I'd much rather have my keys nick this than the lens proper.
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Why don't you put your keys in your other pocket?
roustabout said:
It'd depend on how it attached, but I might be interested in this kind of thing. I'd much rather have my keys nick this than the lens proper.
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It attaches like a screen protector does
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tkoreaper said:
Why don't you put your keys in your other pocket?
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I don't always do everything correctly, and the day I'm carrying a second set or have my hands full and forget what is where needn't be a day that i nick a lens.
In fact, the not doing it right every time is why I bought this phone. Very hard to brick a device when you have full manufacturer's images!
I'd probably try those. I'd prefer a case that had a lens cap built in but I can't find any like that. I'd just be concerned that the lens protector would degrade quickly and affect picture quality, bu your example photos look pretty good.
benroy said:
I'd probably try those. I'd prefer a case that had a lens cap built in but I can't find any like that. I'd just be concerned that the lens protector would degrade quickly and affect picture quality, bu your example photos look pretty good.
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I am also concerned with how it would hold up, but I am assuming this is very similar to the material screen protectors are made out of... Which is pretty good usually needing to be replaced every 6 months or so max.
I have been really abusing it just to see how it holds up (trying to scratch it with a button, constantly wiping it down (not necessary its just a habit...finger prints don't show up as much with it installed) with my cotton shirt and it still looks great.
But like I said, Weston is shipping me some more of a different material so we'll see how those work out
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Extremeguard selling the back protector with it, kind of, you just need to trim that piece a little
I'll buy some. It's not about whether the camera is made of sapphire or not, it's about me trying to protect my phone against the perils of my daily life haha. Though I take care of then phone as it is, a simple protector like that is one more layer of added protection. Just in case I do something stupid to it
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I'll buy some. It's not about whether the camera is made of sapphire or not, it's about me trying to protect my phone against the perils of my daily life haha. Though I take care of then phone as it is, a simple protector like that is one more layer of added protection. Just in case I do something stupid to it
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We officially plan to launch this.
Will keep everyone updated in the coming days.
Weston
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tkoreaper said:
A protector for your camera lens is pointless as most, if not all, high end phones use sapphire glass which has a 9H rating and much stronger than the glass on your display. The only thing that can scratch it is a diamond and given the amount of pressure it would take to break it, your phone would get crushed before it does.
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Nexus 5 does not have any corning gorilla glass or any glass that is 9H for the camera, I could be wrong but it isn't specified on the specs such as the iPhone 5C having that sapphire lens cover to prevent scratchings.
I actually still have the lens protector that came with the phone and never removed it, cause it's so hard when I tried. But pics look great nevertheless.
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If anything else you can replace it by removing the back cover and unscrewing the top half its a complete assembly
Here it is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-To...er_Cell_Phone_Accessories&hash=item1c3c3e8403
if anything else, LG Quoted me 25$ to get it replaced including shipping and everything
Bronyr said:
I actually still have the lens protector that came with the phone and never removed it, cause it's so hard when I tried. But pics look great nevertheless.
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The lens protector that came with the phone doesn't actually cover the lens. It is a 2D donut and has a hole punched out in the middle where the lens opening is. At least, that was the case for mine.
juu666 said:
The lens protector that came with the phone doesn't actually cover the lens. It is a 2D donut and has a hole punched out in the middle where the lens opening is. At least, that was the case for mine.
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Yes and it would be great if @slickwraps does exactly the same with their design, i mean punching a hole in the middle. In that case the quality of the photos won't be affected either.
Just thought I would update everyone on this thread
They are officially Live
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This wouldn't have been possible without @turdbogls, this was 100% his idea.
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Metal band and plastics?

Hi all, I spent a very long time working through the different watches, decided I didn't want the potential screen burn issues of the G watch R or the Zen watch (and I love the look of the zenwatch) and eventually decided I wanted the Smartwatch 3.
Then came the strap, I couldn't find the metal band anywhere and wanted both the silicone and the metal band so I've just received a new Smartwatch 3 with metal band with an idea to order a silicone strap later...
Anyway, nowhere did I read that the metal band contains plastic, does anybody else's or have I got a newer cheaper one? The strap is indeed metal and took a while to remove the pins to shorten the band but the part the watch goes into appears to be silver painted plastic....
If the others are like this how easy are they to scratch on the front? Am I going to end up with a £200 watch with scratches on it?
Cheers all
I wanted to start a new topic but I'm hijacking yours, because this morning my stainless steel SW3 had an unexpected encounter with a wall (not a bang though), and I scratched the part outside the watch core, which is indeed fu#king silver painted plastic.
I would have scratched it anyway, it was a mistake, but then...
I try to polish it with a nail polishing machine (with the dedicated thingy, which is like cloth... I don't know what's its name), and I didn't know it was plastic until I tried on the bottom (on a link) and it worked, so I thought "why not!" and I made a fu#king dent on the top.
Which of course is way more visible than the scratch in the first place.
I'm attaching pictures of before and after (they are not that detailed but you'll understand).
I'm going to write Sony about this as I'm pissed about this, they should have said it wasn't ALL stainless steel.
The same thing happened on my Z Ultra, where the borders appear to be aluminum (and Sony said so itself), where it's really silver painted plastic.
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Oh, the thing on the screen is a protective film, there's nothing wrong with the screen itself
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More pics of the inside without the core: it seems like the inner casing is made of plastic, including top and bottom bezels, where the left and right borders seems like steel.
The plastic inside is not painted, so it's pretty clear that the top is painted.
If you look closely you'll see several hinges, the plastic casing seems latched to those. And if you notice, hinges are present only at the sides.
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More pics of the inside without the core: it seems like the inner casing is made of plastic, including top and bottom bezels, where the left and right borders seems like steel.
The plastic inside is not painted, so it's pretty clear that the top is painted.
If you look closely you'll see several hinges, the plastic casing seems latched to those. And if you notice, hinges are present only at the sides.
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WTF? I don't even wanna buy it no more... Too bad, I was looking out for this band. Thanks for sharing. Please keep us updated with Sony's reaction.
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WTF? I don't even wanna buy it no more... Too bad, I was looking out for this band. Thanks for sharing. Please keep us updated with Sony's reaction.
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No problems mate, I would have bought it anyway, and since I bought at like 20 euros more than the rubber version, I'm not feeling all that ripped off to be fair.
I just wish they were clear about this particular thing, and I would have paid more for the whole watch in steel.
Seeing the inside, it's clear they could have engineered a simple way to keep the bottom part of the inside casing plastic made (to ensure no harm is done to the core when you swap bands), and the top all in steel.
It could have been done, and it would have costed like 50 cent more (for them) while charging it a premium price (for us).
Anyway, I wrote to the Italian customer care, and as they obviously won't know anything, I will bother other regions like UK/US as well until someone answers.
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What a pure let down. Can the platic holder be replaced?
supac said:
What a pure let down. Can the platic holder be replaced?
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I think it can, but it's yet to see if they'll supply the part to the general market or keep it to the self for the eventual warranty repair...
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All metal isn't the best thing either. I had the LG g watch r and that thing scratched so easy. That's the main reason I sold it for the sw3.
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fr0st420 said:
All metal isn't the best thing either. I had the LG g watch r and that thing scratched so easy. That's the main reason I sold it for the sw3.
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Let's differentiate from metal to metal... The LG G R is black metal, which is a pain in the arse to polish, while the SW3 is (at least the band is) stainless steel, satin metal. You can polish it like a thousand times and it will still look good.
That would be the case, if it was all metal.
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It has certainly adjusted what I would be willing to pay for the metal strap to go on my SW3. As soon as it was announced I wondered how they were going to get the watch module to fit in a rigid stainless steel surround. I just assumed it would have a nylon or polycarbonate insert.
I wonder if there is some sort of protective coating that could be applied to the plastic bit to protect it from scratching without spoiling the look.
I have the 'metal' smartwatch 3 as well...
Unfortunately, there would be no way to have it all metal!
The radios wouldn't work... GPS / NFC / Bluetooth, would all really stop working if the top and bottom parts were also metal and not plastic.
Just worth keeping that in mind.
Yeah, it's a bit crappy, but I'm still more than happy with it.
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I have the 'metal' smartwatch 3 as well...
Unfortunately, there would be no way to have it all metal!
The radios wouldn't work... GPS / NFC / Bluetooth, would all really stop working if the top and bottom parts were also metal and not plastic.
Just worth keeping that in mind.
Yeah, it's a bit crappy, but I'm still more than happy with it.
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I don't agree with that. The screen is not made of metal, so there's plenty of space for gps/nfc/bluetooth waves to go out of there. I'd rather have an all plastic core.
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You know how LCD screens work right? Especially the Transreflective one in the SW3? It is backed by a silver / metal lining to reflect the light outwards, so putting the radios behind the screen won't work either! If they put an p-oled in there (like the GwatchR), then that might work, but not with the current screen tech.
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You know how LCD screens work right? Especially the Transreflective one in the SW3? It is backed by a silver / metal lining to reflect the light outwards, so putting the radios behind the screen won't work either! If they put an p-oled in there (like the GwatchR), then that might work, but not with the current screen tech.
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You know what? I didn't know that! OK, I'd prefer having the plastic core than, it would be less exposed to scratches...
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I was a little taken aback when I noticed it was plastic as well and my first thought was scratches to!
I'm going to keep an eye out for a silver permanent marker in a similar shade, so if it gets scratched I should be able to just 'paint' over it.
Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Sharpie-Permanent-Markers-Metallic-39108PP/dp/B00009RAX4
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You know how LCD screens work right? Especially the Transreflective one in the SW3? It is backed by a silver / metal lining to reflect the light outwards, so putting the radios behind the screen won't work either! If they put an p-oled in there (like the GwatchR), then that might work, but not with the current screen tech.
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So how come the NFC sensor is in the middle of the screen?
And there is a bezel that varies from about 2mm to 5mm in width on the front face that isn't metal.
Is the back of the watch module metal or painted plastic? I'm not willing to scratch it to find out.
dingbatt said:
So how come the NFC sensor is in the middle of the screen?
And there is a bezel that varies from about 2mm to 5mm in width on the front face that isn't metal.
Is the back of the watch module metal or painted plastic? I'm not willing to scratch it to find out.
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The back of the watch module is definitely metal.
Anyway, incredibly enough, Sony Italy has replied to me, saying that the watch is all metal but that metal get scratched too.
I replied posting a pic of the scratched part, let's see if they deny it again.
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fastest83 said:
The back of the watch module is definitely metal.
Anyway, incredibly enough, Sony Italy has replied to me, saying that the watch is all metal but that metal get scratched too.
I replied posting a pic of the scratched part, let's see if they deny it again.
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That is shocking! It is obvious it is plastic just by feel (and tapping it) without even scratching it I cannot believe they would try and deny it....
Anyway, had mine for about a week now and haven't scratched it just yet but I have knocked it a couple of times and panicked, mine screen protectors haven't arrived yet.
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That is shocking! It is obvious it is plastic just by feel (and tapping it) without even scratching it I cannot believe they would try and deny it....
Anyway, had mine for about a week now and haven't scratched it just yet but I have knocked it a couple of times and panicked, mine screen protectors haven't arrived yet.
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They eventually (after I posted the pic) admitted the part around the core unit is "high quality plastic".
I wonder, if this is high quality, something low quality would have fallen off the watch just by looking at it.
They told me to bring it to service under warranty, and I think I'll do that just if they let me keep the core unit (I have 2 spare bands).
When I have the time, I'll send it in and keep you posted (even though I think I'll end up with nothing, since it was my mistake).
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Glare on pictures

Have took some half decent shots with this camera however some of the ones with light are a bit glared does anyone else get this? What can you do to eliminate it.
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Its annoying, other phones don't do this, the M9 was terrible for it, seems it's followed over to the 10.
try cleaning the lens.
Eagle1337 said:
try cleaning the lens.
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Haha, the first thing I thought of. If isn't that in afraid.
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Haha, the first thing I thought of. If isn't that in afraid.
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Dang i've noticed that it helps a lot but it's still a bit bad. Mine doesn't seem to be quite as bad as yours.
This can be easily solved (for me at least) by rubbing the lens with a soft cloth in a circular motion rather than linearly.
Do you have clear case on?
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Do you have clear case on?
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Nope I have a Tech 21 carbon.. The flash is off.
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This can be easily solved (for me at least) by rubbing the lens with a soft cloth in a circular motion rather than linearly.
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Appreciate what you're saying, I have a large zags cloth which is probably one of the best cloths that you can buy. The lens is clear..
Mine has the same glare issue. Maybe it can be fixed with a anti glare or a polarizing flim/glass ?
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Mine has the same glare issue. Maybe it can be fixed with a anti glare or a polarizing flim/glass ?
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Hadn't thought about that, it's just a shame that htc didn't actually realise that this is an old problem which they really ought to have fixed.
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Appreciate what you're saying, I have a large zags cloth which is probably one of the best cloths that you can buy. The lens is clear..
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It may look clean but shine the lens at different angles and you'll see oil streaks. For sure that's what it is based on the glare. The same exact thing happens with glasses.
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richii0207 said:
It may look clean but shine the lens at different angles and you'll see oil streaks. For sure that's what it is based on the glare. The same exact thing happens with glasses.
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I'll give it another whirl but I'm not used to that much glare from any device.
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I'll give it another whirl but I'm not used to that much glare from any device.
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Glass is always like that and every camera or item with glass whether glasses, shower doors, windows will always do that. For example my glasses and DSLR do that if you touch them. It's normal but strange that many HTC owners are raising awareness on that like LCD and polarization.
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Glass is always like that and every camera or item with glass whether glasses, shower doors, windows will always do that. For example my glasses and DSLR do that if you touch them. It's normal but strange that many HTC owners are raising awareness on that like LCD and polarization.
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Because it's not just the glass causing the issue.
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Because it's not just the glass causing the issue.
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But it is. Unless other phone manufacturers are making some kind of glass with enduroshield that even camera brands like Nikon and Canon aren't using.
Check out my sample and example in the camera thread.
Do you have the latest updates installed?
PunishedSnake said:
Do you have the latest updates installed?
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Always mate
richii0207 said:
But it is. Unless other phone manufacturers are making some kind of glass with enduroshield that even camera brands like Nikon and Canon aren't using.
Check out my sample and example in the camera thread.
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Unless it's exactly the same glass as the m9 which had the exact same issue then i'm not convinced.
My Nexus didn't have this, my S5, infact pretty much none of the below phones did except for the 3 new HTC devices.
If it's glass, then how does that happen? The vast majority of these were glass, the 10 just seems to be hazy, especially in low light, bring the device outside and it's crystal clear, feels like dejavu of the m9 to me.
Might sound like i'm bashing HTC here, i'm not, i'm a bit disappointed, i've always put a lot of faith in HTC and they always seem to drop the ball on something. Suppose that's HTC's way of being unique.
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Unless it's exactly the same glass as the m9 which had the exact same issue then i'm not convinced.
My Nexus didn't have this, my S5, infact pretty much none of the below phones did except for the 3 new HTC devices.
If it's glass, then how does that happen? The vast majority of these were glass, the 10 just seems to be hazy, especially in low light, bring the device outside and it's crystal clear, feels like dejavu of the m9 to me.
Might sound like i'm bashing HTC here, i'm not, i'm a bit disappointed, i've always put a lot of faith in HTC and they always seem to drop the ball on something. Suppose that's HTC's way of being unique.
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Seems to me you got a bad copy of the HTC 10. You probably wanna send it for an exchange.
vancecwtan said:
Seems to me you got a bad copy of the HTC 10. You probably wanna send it for an exchange.
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No lad, there's nothing wrong with the phone its just the way it is in certain lighting.

Bumper case advice to keep phone's screen attached

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My phone has a screen problem which you can see in the image. The screen is not attached to body. When I push that side of screen with my hand it goes normal, so I think it is a adhesive problem. I need screen to stay steady because back button is hard to press in this condition.
So is there any bumper case which can hold screen attached to body so I can use it without any problem?
If nothing else, this case should hold your phone together. Other cases may work too, though it is difficult to tell if the small lip they have over the screen would be enough.
sevindi said:
http://imgur.com/a/fe2JV
My phone has a screen problem which you can see in the image. The screen is not attached to body. When I push that side of screen with my hand it goes normal, so I think it is a adhesive problem. I need screen to stay steady because back button is hard to press in this condition.
So is there any bumper case which can hold screen attached to body so I can use it without any problem?
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have you tried superglue lol
@MehStrongBadMeh
Thanks! I will look intothat case.
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I dont really want to open phone. Is there any way to use superglue without removing the screen?
Put the glue on the end of a toothpick then run it along the inside edges of the screen and phone @sevindi
sevindi said:
http://imgur.com/a/fe2JV
My phone has a screen problem which you can see in the image. The screen is not attached to body. When I push that side of screen with my hand it goes normal, so I think it is a adhesive problem. I need screen to stay steady because back button is hard to press in this condition.
So is there any bumper case which can hold screen attached to body so I can use it without any problem?
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Dang brother, that looks bad. Very sorry to see this. Can I ask is this the result of dropping the device or this happened on its own? It doesn't look like it has any damage to it, have you tried contacting hTC?
As for cases, I prefer the thinner ones.
The Spigen Thin Fit has treated me very well on my hTC M9, and then now on my hTC 10. They do a good job I think with providing a nice thin product that actually does prevent small dings and what not (my 10 is still brand new looking and has been in this case with no screen protector since release day, but everyone's use is different). Color choice I wish they had black but the gunmetal looks great.
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Send it in with UhOh protection, get a new one
That's pretty bad.. Why haven't you RMA'd your device or at the very least contacted HTC?
As far as I can see from that picture, no clear signs of a drop either so...it should be a clear case of manufacturing defect.
Try tech 21, it has a lip around the phone. Good case too
I have seen a video about "disassembling?" on youtube. They just warmed the display up with some device, in order to reattach it. Maybe you want to have a look at such video to get an idea.
+1 for RMA before it gets wrecked fully.
Especially since i think it has some very nice degree of water resistance and dust resistance, when put together properly. You should let a professional take care of, to get the best result.
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I have seen a video about "disassembling?" on youtube. They just warmed the display up with some device, in order to reattach it. Maybe you want to have a look at such video to get an idea.
+1 for RMA before it gets wrecked fully.
Especially since i think it has some very nice degree of water resistance and dust resistance, when put together properly. You should let a professional take care of, to get the best result.
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That'll be a heat gun mate, it'll also ruin most the glue sticking it down.. Probably not a good idea to do this yourself, if someone else has changed the screen out then RMA might not be allowed. If it's just gone this way by itself then Yea RMA for sure.
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.... Probably not a good idea to do this yourself, ...
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True words from this angle
I would not hesitate to send it in. I would rather send it to HTC instantly. Probably i would not even ask a forum about such
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True words from this angle
I would not hesitate to send it in. I would rather send it to HTC instantly. Probably i would not even ask a forum about such
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Thought you called me an angel for a moment there
Definitely send it in mate, if this has happened on it's own it's obviously a terrible defect, more than likely the battery has swollen, or the glue has come away or the phone has bent, or a combination of either.
Either way, not your fault and not a good sign, bearing in mind that this lump is a £600 phone! Not cheap and certainly not something i'd go dabbling with unless it was a last resort.
I stripped down a One X to do a replacement screen swap, ended up snapping a flex, and i'm a careful guy
So if you ask me send it back.
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Thought you called me an angel for a moment there
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Oh sorry, this is lack of english skill. I thought in my mother language while translating. I was already told to better stop this. Anyhow, intentionally i wanted to agree on your point of view.
Yeah, better do not void the warranty by manually trying to repair it.
revealed said:
Oh sorry, this is lack of english skill. I thought in my mother language while translating. I was already told to better stop this. Anyhow, intentionally i wanted to agree on your point of view.
Yeah, better do not void the warranty by manually trying to repair it.
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No you did write the correct word, it was just on first sight i THOUGHT you said something.
Lol it's cool, nevermind.

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