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[Q] Note 4 DE Updating question

I have researched and looked but can't seem to find a definitive answer. How does the Note 4 DE get updated to the next version of Android? For example, I order the Note 4 DE today with 4.4.4. What happens when 5.x.x comes out. How does that phone get the update. I have been told by Samsung that the wireless carrier is going to put out the update; however I know better than that as the boot loader will get locked. I have read were Samsung Kies is used to update also. I have read (on xda) that Samsung has and probably will never send out an update for a DE device. I am looking to keep the UDP with Verizon so I have to pay full price when getting a DE device or retail. Thanks.

If your stock and locked with the de it'll come over the air, and because it's the developer edition it will not lock the phone. But if you unlock and run the custom roms you can update threw recovery with the custom software of your choosing.
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So, OTA updates will not lock the boot loader on the Developer Edition Note 4. I was going to wait until 5.x.x came out for the note 4 so I could buy the note 4 DE with it already on it. That apparently is not necessary because the OTA updates will not lock the boot loader and the DE units will get 5.x.x when the retail one does through OTA... correct?
P.S - I am planning on tinkering around with Rom's once I get all the research done and know what I am doing. The last time I messed around with the phone was when I had the HTC Thunderbolt. Thanks for the quick reply.

Nemo Aeternamn said:
If your stock and locked with the de it'll come over the air, and because it's the developer edition it will not lock the phone. But if you unlock and run the custom roms you can update threw recovery with the custom software of your choosing.
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Where to start...first, there no such thing as "stock and locked" on a developer edition. It is unrooted, but the bootloader is unlocked out of the box. Secondly past developer edition phones did not get updates and even if one happened to appear, I would be very cautious about taking it as you definitely do not know that it "will not lock your phone". Developer edition phones were designed for developers and as such the expectation is that the user is knowledge and can handle tweaking and updating on their own. Do not expect an OTA update.
As for how the DE will get 5.0, that will be up to a creative developer somewhere to put out a ROM that can be flashed in custom recovery. Some work has been done on CM 12 so we shall see.

Thanks tfly212!!! That is exactly what I needed to know. I will be reading everything I can to get that knowledge. Thanks again!

AMG32man said:
Thanks tfly212!!! That is exactly what I needed to know. I will be reading everything I can to get that knowledge. Thanks again!
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No worries. The dev edition is a great device. There are some good ROMs available on 4.4.4 and I'm sure there will be a 5.0 ROM at some point. I'm in no rush for 5.0... Not until Xposed is supported. I use a bunch of those modules and would miss them too much.

tfly212 said:
No worries. The dev edition is a great device. There are some good ROMs available on 4.4.4 and I'm sure there will be a 5.0 ROM at some point. I'm in no rush for 5.0... Not until Xposed is supported. I use a bunch of those modules and would miss them too much.
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i agree i need xposed right now. i missed xposed bad on my nexus 6. note on 4.4.4 with xposed is great for me right now

New note 4 Owner: Whats next?

Hi all,
Just got my new Note 4. Have not taken any OTA updates so I am on 4.4.4 Android.
Whats next to root, debloat, and install a custom rom? Who's got the best minimalist type rom out right now? From what I've read it doesn't seem like there is much out there for 5.0 - just didn't know what the process was for this earlier version still, and how to make the update nag screen go away, or if there were any distinct advantages/disadvantages to upgrading.

Do you have the retail or developer edition?
Currently the retail edition only has temporary root which goes away after reboot. The devs are currently working on permanent root.
The developer edition has permanent root and has the ability to have custom Roms

I bought a retail version from the Verizon store, I didn't know there were differences actually? This makes me kind of sad now.
No known root method even for the older un OTA updated setup? Thats very unfortunate...

There is is a root method for the 4.4.4 kitkat. It's just temporary at the moment.
Like I mentioned, the developers are working on making it permanent right now.

droidx2.3.3 said:
There is is a root method for the 4.4.4 kitkat. It's just temporary at the moment.
Like I mentioned, the developers are working on making it permanent right now.
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Thanks - looks like I'm just sitting tight for now then, I'll check back in a few days.

You can still try the temp heres the link kingroot.net/root
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5.0.1 root available?

Hi everyone, hope you're having an amazing day!
I was wondering if there is a root available for the SM-N910V running 5.0.1. I've looked on google, and there are lots of yes, and no answers. Could someone help clear this up for me?
Thanks!

There is not a root available for the retail edition of the Verizon note 4 on 5.0.1.

Redjay412 said:
There is not a root available for the retail edition of the Verizon note 4 on 5.0.1.
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Okay, thanks! Hopefully, there'll be one eventually!

JRM_3 said:
Okay, thanks! Hopefully, there'll be one eventually!
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Dont search for root, root method is already there for developers edition, so the fact that ROOT IS ALREADY THERE is 100% true.
What you need to search for is either "unlock bootloader" or "rooted firmware" or "rooted kernel" or something else.
Not much so far.
Just make sure when u search google, click search tools and select more recent results. That way u dont end up finding most popular pages that are many many months old.

tonycstech said:
Dont search for root, root method is already there for developers edition, so the fact that ROOT IS ALREADY THERE is 100% true.
What you need to search for is either "unlock bootloader" or "rooted firmware" or "rooted kernel" or something else.
Not much so far.
Just make sure when u search google, click search tools and select more recent results. That way u dont end up finding most popular pages that are many many months old.
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Actually, requesting root for 5.0.1 in this forum is quite appropriate and very different from unlocked bootloaders, rooted firmware or rooted kernel. In fact, installing a new kernel or rom usually requires an unlocked bootloader and getting that done usually requires a root method first so there's some chance of writing a new recovery. With root, methods such as what is now known as SafeStrap (the result of a technique discovered by Birdman, matured by myself and then claimed by another person who's made a habit of claiming others' work as his own) can allow for quite a bit of customization, but typically not so much as a new kernel, let alone different ROMs.
Right now, the state of the Note 4 is that only the Dev Edition (DE) has much of anything going on. You'll find all sorts of frustrating and unclear information about KingRoot, but it's of almost no use unless you think you can abuse it to search for a more complete and permanent root method, but if you knew how to do such a thing, I doubt you'd be here asking for root If you see ROMs or anything else advanced in this forum that doesn't specify it's only for the DE, assume it is.
I've been around since the days of CupCake (and built WiMo roms previously, along with some of the earliest ROMs and rooting) and based on experience, I'd say that the only chance left seeing root on the retail Note 4 is if another root method (new as of today/2015-12-28) is discovered elsewhere that applies to 5.x/5.0.1 OR the Note 4 sees another OTA and we get really lucky (unlikely).

exactly why am returning it and getting S5. But even with S5 its unclear if towelroot will work or not.
I assume it will if S5 was not updated to 5.0+ but runs older 4.4.4. Is this correct assumption ?
Thanks for informative reply.

tonycstech said:
exactly why am returning it and getting S5. But even with S5 its unclear if towelroot will work or not.
I assume it will if S5 was not updated to 5.0+ but runs older 4.4.4. Is this correct assumption ?
Thanks for informative reply.
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Yes but I would do some reading in the Verizon s5 forum because there is a build cutoff for root on the s5. If you're getting a new s5 from Verizon the chances are low you will get one without the latest build at this point

cursixx said:
Yes but I would do some reading in the Verizon s5 forum because there is a build cutoff for root on the s5. If you're getting a new s5 from Verizon the chances are low you will get one without the latest build at this point
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Seller said its still on 4.4.4 which is good news.
I just now need to find a thread on how to root 4.4.4 S5

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23681161096070831
Whatever you do don't take any OTA updates, some are forced so get it rooted asap and then use the pre-rooted lollipop images

S8+ coming tomorrow, what's the latest?

I know I'm a little behind here and that the S8 is a year old, but I have an S8+ coming and wanted to know what to expect. I see there aren't really any ROMs for it, but is root even possible? I'm not too worried about it because I'm coming from a Verizon Note 5 that I used for over a year without root. Would just be nice to have so I can go back to using my root apps. Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

35 views, no comments lol. Tells me exactly what I needed to know.

Hi,
Seems this phone is dead for Verizon users as the boot-loader is locked so you get official update to Android 8.0 and not 8.1 but hopefully in the coming month or so.. Samsung is known to be late so

There is root if you have BL versions 1, 2, or 3. Check the S8+ forum for ROMs. Also see the S8+ Verizon forum for ROMs. There are some custom (stock based) ROMs and the ability to install and use Safestrap on unrooted versions. Safestrap use is currently pretty limited. If you have a version 4 bootloader no-one has figured out how to root yet as far as I know, but there is some work being done. It is true that the bootloader is not unlocked so the options are limited.

Question root for sm-f926u1???

so ive been searching the past week on this im looking to see if its possible to root my new fold3 my model number is SM-F926U1 and my build number is SP1A.210812.016.F926U1UEU1CVC5.
if someone could please point me in the right direction. i would greatly appreciate it. as there are certain apps i use that require root,

That's unlocked USA model and not rootable at this time.

cpufrost said:
That's unlocked USA model and not rootable at this time.
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Is there any work being done to try and root it or is it locked never happening

Don't see it happening. The days of unlocked bootloaders, TWRP and even simple root seem to be over for the unlocked USA snapdragon versions. I can live with that but no esim on the 'ultra flagship' device is simply unacceptable, IMO.

If you go back and read the posts about rooting, you will find the all but 1 or 2 models can be unlocked. the US Unlocked is not rootable. Make sure you read through the posts, you can usually find the answer in the threads.

I appreciate the responses. So let's say I was willing g to sell this one to buy one that can be rooted. Which model am I looking for? I just use a prepaid phone service. But like being able to jump from one service to another.

That is also listed on the forum thread titles.
SM-F926B​

Thank you

Isn't there a paid service that unlocks the US bootloader?

Skizzy034 said:
Isn't there a paid service that unlocks the US bootloader?
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Would you trust someone else or a company to use unknown software on your device then install and log in to all of your stuff not knowing if they installed anything malicious?

What about model SM-F926U? rootable or not?

As stated here and in other threads, there is no root for the U/U1. Doing so has negative effects to the ROM, such as disabling the camera.
IF there was/is a successful Root process, the community will blow up with threads explaining how.

So the following link below is wrong:
How To Root Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 5G? (All Models) - SamsungSFour.Com
How To Root Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 5G? (All Models)
www.samsungsfour.com

ycats said:
So the following link below is wrong:
How To Root Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 5G? (All Models) - SamsungSFour.Com
How To Root Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 5G? (All Models)
www.samsungsfour.com
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Try it out ! and tell us back
Checkout if you have the OEM option (@ developer options) to enable it ..
That is the first step to unlock the bootloader

Not seeing that OEM option in Developer options.............so I'm not willing to try it out, don't want to brick the device.

ycats said:
Not seeing that OEM option in Developer options.............so I'm not willing to try it out, don't want to brick the device.
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If you don't have the oem option in your developer options your device can't be rooted.

ycats said:
Not seeing that OEM option in Developer options.............so I'm not willing to try it out, don't want to brick the device.
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Exactly !!!
Because you can't unlock the bootloader as said before , no OEM option = no unlock
So that link is wrong unfortunately

Yes, any post that says they can root the Fold 3 U/U1 is wrong. You will have consequences like losing camera and such.
Yes, it is wrong. This has been explored at length. I'm sorry it isn't a reality, but that's where we are.

appreciate the feedback..................back in the day with Windows Mobile OS phones, I would flash custom roms all the time, then the same with android HTC devices......................but haven't tried rooting since the Note-8.

ycats said:
appreciate the feedback..................back in the day with Windows Mobile OS phones, I would flash custom roms all the time, then the same with android HTC devices......................but haven't tried rooting since the Note-8.
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Root for me =
Viper4Android ( main reason to be rooted )
Swift Backup ( to backup/restore DATA , to/from device or Cloud ) ( second reason to be rooted )
AdAway
Samsung App Lock
Root Explorer
Galaxy Max Hz
AndroidZip Pro
#Hex
Some other magisk modules
Those are my main apps /magisk modules that requieres to be rooted