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[Q] Note 4 DE Updating question

I have researched and looked but can't seem to find a definitive answer. How does the Note 4 DE get updated to the next version of Android? For example, I order the Note 4 DE today with 4.4.4. What happens when 5.x.x comes out. How does that phone get the update. I have been told by Samsung that the wireless carrier is going to put out the update; however I know better than that as the boot loader will get locked. I have read were Samsung Kies is used to update also. I have read (on xda) that Samsung has and probably will never send out an update for a DE device. I am looking to keep the UDP with Verizon so I have to pay full price when getting a DE device or retail. Thanks.

If your stock and locked with the de it'll come over the air, and because it's the developer edition it will not lock the phone. But if you unlock and run the custom roms you can update threw recovery with the custom software of your choosing.
Sent from my SM-N910V using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2

So, OTA updates will not lock the boot loader on the Developer Edition Note 4. I was going to wait until 5.x.x came out for the note 4 so I could buy the note 4 DE with it already on it. That apparently is not necessary because the OTA updates will not lock the boot loader and the DE units will get 5.x.x when the retail one does through OTA... correct?
P.S - I am planning on tinkering around with Rom's once I get all the research done and know what I am doing. The last time I messed around with the phone was when I had the HTC Thunderbolt. Thanks for the quick reply.

Nemo Aeternamn said:
If your stock and locked with the de it'll come over the air, and because it's the developer edition it will not lock the phone. But if you unlock and run the custom roms you can update threw recovery with the custom software of your choosing.
Sent from my SM-N910V using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
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Where to start...first, there no such thing as "stock and locked" on a developer edition. It is unrooted, but the bootloader is unlocked out of the box. Secondly past developer edition phones did not get updates and even if one happened to appear, I would be very cautious about taking it as you definitely do not know that it "will not lock your phone". Developer edition phones were designed for developers and as such the expectation is that the user is knowledge and can handle tweaking and updating on their own. Do not expect an OTA update.
As for how the DE will get 5.0, that will be up to a creative developer somewhere to put out a ROM that can be flashed in custom recovery. Some work has been done on CM 12 so we shall see.

Thanks tfly212!!! That is exactly what I needed to know. I will be reading everything I can to get that knowledge. Thanks again!

AMG32man said:
Thanks tfly212!!! That is exactly what I needed to know. I will be reading everything I can to get that knowledge. Thanks again!
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No worries. The dev edition is a great device. There are some good ROMs available on 4.4.4 and I'm sure there will be a 5.0 ROM at some point. I'm in no rush for 5.0... Not until Xposed is supported. I use a bunch of those modules and would miss them too much.

tfly212 said:
No worries. The dev edition is a great device. There are some good ROMs available on 4.4.4 and I'm sure there will be a 5.0 ROM at some point. I'm in no rush for 5.0... Not until Xposed is supported. I use a bunch of those modules and would miss them too much.
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i agree i need xposed right now. i missed xposed bad on my nexus 6. note on 4.4.4 with xposed is great for me right now

Lenovo A7600 Rom - Lollipop

Would be very grateful for a link for Lenovo A7600 Rom for Lollipop O/S. A link other than that posted in 3 parts on a spam site.
Thanks

leemg said:
Would be very grateful for a link for Lenovo A7600 Rom for Lollipop O/S. A link other than that posted in 3 parts on a spam site.
Thanks
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Ive just picked up one of these tablets and managed to root it and install custom revcovery.
To be honest I think there are zero custom ROM for this device and the supposed Lollipop ROM on those spam sites are bound to be a load of virus. I have seem three or four such 3 part download sites all of which are hidden behind a survey. All the comments on the sites are exactly the same but are posted by different people depending what site you look at which indicates they can't be trusted.
I have tweeted Lenovo to see if they plan a Lollipop update but no reply yet.
I think we need to either need to learn how to port or find a dev that can do it

Eddster3000 said:
Ive just picked up one of these tablets and managed to root it and install custom revcovery.
To be honest I think there are zero custom ROM for this device and the supposed Lollipop ROM on those spam sites are bound to be a load of virus. I have seem three or four such 3 part download sites all of which are hidden behind a survey. All the comments on the sites are exactly the same but are posted by different people depending what site you look at which indicates they can't be trusted.
I have tweeted Lenovo to see if they plan a Lollipop update but no reply yet.
I think we need to either need to learn how to port or find a dev that can do it
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Really nice to see your response, would you be kind enough to inbox me with your custom recovery. I really need to even get the stock rom to reflash if you could help. Thanks so much for replying and if we can get someone interested in porting to LP i would happy to contribute.

leemg said:
Really nice to see your response, would you be kind enough to inbox me with your custom recovery. I really need to even get the stock rom to reflash if you could help. Thanks so much for replying and if we can get someone interested in porting to LP i would happy to contribute.
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I used the guide at this link and the download for the covery is halfway through the walkthrough
http://aleatorical.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/installing-clockworkmod-and-root-for.html
Its pretty long winded but it worked for me. As you will be using your own device its at your own risk if you decide to use the link
Cheers
Edd

Eddster3000 said:
I used the guide at this link and the download for the covery is halfway through the walkthrough
http://aleatorical.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/installing-clockworkmod-and-root-for.html
Edd
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I'll take a look, thanks

hi guys,
could you install successfully the lollipop on lenovo a7600?

andredemello said:
hi guys,
could you install successfully the lollipop on lenovo a7600?
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There isn't a Lollipop ROM yet for A7600f. It is possible to root and get custom recovery installed but as far as I can tell there is no official lollipop update or custom ROM development at all

Legit?
Eddster3000 said:
There isn't a Lollipop ROM yet for A7600f. It is possible to root and get custom recovery installed but as far as I can tell there is no official lollipop update or custom ROM development at all
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i found this one today
chinagadgetsreviews .com/download-android-lollipop-5-0-stock-firmware-for-lenovo-s8-a7600-smartphone.html
Is it legit?
how to check?
I have A7600... i want to change to China based rom for global...
cheers

knoblybits said:
i found this one today
chinagadgetsreviews .com/download-android-lollipop-5-0-stock-firmware-for-lenovo-s8-a7600-smartphone.html
Is it legit?
how to check?
I have A7600... i want to change to China based rom for global...
cheers
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I checked the link and it is for the S8 smartphone which also as model number A7600. If you have that smartphone you test it at your own risk but if you are talking about a rom for A7600F tablet it won't be compatible.
As Lenovo don't seem to be official updating the A7600F tablet im guessing we need a custom rom. Unfortunately I don't think it's that popular a tablet so won't pull in developers and regrettably I'm not skilled enough to even know where to start.

Eddster3000 said:
I checked the link and it is for the S8 smartphone which also as model number A7600. If you have that smartphone you test it at your own risk but if you are talking about a rom for A7600F tablet it won't be compatible.
As Lenovo don't seem to be official updating the A7600F tablet im guessing we need a custom rom. Unfortunately I don't think it's that popular a tablet so won't pull in developers and regrettably I'm not skilled enough to even know where to start.
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I received the s8 a7600 with android 5.0 - it looks like that OS is just installed by seller, with multiple application that are a huge adware/spam generators. I tried to remove all (root/remove apps), but it destroys a little the functionality (dialer has opacity - not so easy to find what is going on, camera not working at all). But generally works. If anyone has skills - I am sure it can be easy fixed (for example install 3rdparty dialer - but that one from lenovo is pretty fine). But I think I will update phone with stock ROM, but I need to find how to do that safely and be sure I can back to the actual software...

Eddster3000 said:
I used the guide at this link and the download for the covery is halfway through the walkthrough
http://aleatorical.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/installing-clockworkmod-and-root-for.html
Its pretty long winded but it worked for me. As you will be using your own device its at your own risk if you decide to use the link
Cheers
Edd
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A bit of a necro here ...
Yep, it is a long-winded guide. I wrote everything as best I could just in case.
I'd be surprised if more than 5 people are still looking to root this device. But for those folks, I updated the guide tonight.
I hadn't used the tablet much until this past week, my phone was doing better and I was only using the tablet for streaming videos as a portable TV. However my phone died and I finally got around to re-rooting the tablet (I has lost root after applying an OTA update about a year ago).
And no, there are not any custom ROMs ... no Lollipop ... no Marshmallow ... never Nougat ... for this tablet. This guide is PURELY for getting root on 4.4.
That said, here is the short version ... this MAY work on a never-rooted A10 A7600F ... it may only work to REFRESH the root. I have no good way of knowing as there isn't a chance in hell I'm going to revert everything to stock to find out
Glad to know at least 10 people got help from the guide.
UPDATE 9/22/2016:
Revised Steps are simple:
* Download Kingo Root (not King Root, that failed) APK version for Android.
* Run Kingo Root.
* If it fails, reboot, and try again (mine failed the first time)
* Assuming Kingo Root worked the second time (if not, see the original detailed steps below) ... DON'T REBOOT yet (when I did this, the root disappeared, so I had to run Kingo Root a 3rd time)
* Install a Root Checker and verify root access
* Install (first time) or uninstall and re-install (updating is fine if yours was out of date) SuperSU by Chainfire (other SuperSU may or may not work, Chainfire worked for me)
REBOOT
* Re-run Root Checker to verify root access (don't run Kingo Root before this) ... it should be using SuperSU to grant root, NOT Kingo
* If rooted, uninstall Kingo Root
* REBOOT
* Re-run Root Checker to make sure SuperSU continued to work after removing Kingo Root.
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aleextra said:
I received the s8 a7600 with android 5.0
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There are multiple "A7600" devices out there. This is specifically for the A7600F, aka the A10. Different device, ROMs not compatible with other A7600 devices. Lenovo can burn in hell both for their lack of updates as well as their naming conventions.

Hi all,
I have ported a CM13 ROM to this device to bring us to Android 6.0.1. if anyone is interested I will start a thread for and provide instructions and a link later today.

thel2dab said:
Hi all,
I have ported a CM13 ROM to this device to bring us to Android 6.0.1. if anyone is interested I will start a thread for and provide instructions and a link later today.
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Absolutely of interest. Looking forward to information.

ProsjektX said:
Absolutely of interest. Looking forward to information.
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I have started a thread for it here;
A7600-F Port
Give it a try and let me know how you get on.
Regards
Lee

I used it.. 2 years ago till now.. ?

Noob with 5.1.1, but would prefer 4.4.4 if possible

Ok, I'll start off by saying that I have searched around, but haven't been able to find a definitive and up-to-date answer. Either that, or I just didn't understand an answer because I know almost nothing about any of the technical jargon.
Here's my problem. I just got a new Sprint Note 4 and it unfortunately came with 5.1.1 already loaded, so I didn't have a choice. I've seen the difference between Lollipop and Kitkat (and read numerous complaints), so I know that I would definitely prefer to be running Kitkat. And if there's any way to downgrade for 4.4.4, I'd like to do it now while the phone is new so I wouldn't have to worry about backing up a lot of data.
Useful information: the phone is an SM-N910P and is on N910PVPU4COG5, which I believe is the latest version.
Is there currently any known method--non-root, rooting, flashing, going to 5.0 and then to 4.4.4, etc.--to downgrade a Sprint Note 4 on COG5 to Kitkat? And if so, where does a laymen like myself start?
Thanks a lot.

bastienfils said:
Ok, I'll start off by saying that I have searched around, but haven't been able to find a definitive and up-to-date answer. Either that, or I just didn't understand an answer because I know almost nothing about any of the technical jargon.
Here's my problem. I just got a new Sprint Note 4 and it unfortunately came with 5.1.1 already loaded, so I didn't have a choice. I've seen the difference between Lollipop and Kitkat (and read numerous complaints), so I know that I would definitely prefer to be running Kitkat. And if there's any way to downgrade for 4.4.4, I'd like to do it now while the phone is new so I wouldn't have to worry about backing up a lot of data.
Useful information: the phone is an SM-N910P and is on N910PVPU4COG5, which I believe is the latest version.
Is there currently any known method--non-root, rooting, flashing, going to 5.0 and then to 4.4.4, etc.--to downgrade a Sprint Note 4 on COG5 to Kitkat? And if so, where does a laymen like myself start?
Thanks a lot.
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Not possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62923032

pcmanager said:
Not possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62923032
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+1 Way too many risks trying to downgrade. There was a way mentioned to flash any Lollipop ROM but I doubt it applies to KitKat.
Give Lollipop 5.1.1/OG5 a chance. It's got some security and bug fixes the other stock versions and ports don't have. There's even some ports like themes and Screen Off Memo that work with it. And Xposed works as well.
Development is coming along. Read the thread on Sacs Note 5 port for fixes fixes posted in the last 2 or 3 days for that ROM. (HINT: Before flashing, go into the zip archive to delete the test files in /system/etc/init.d and pull the build.prop and look for dpi and set it at 640 and replace it). That will get you started with a good custom ROM that should only get better going forward. I can't recall but I think was still yet another another fix posted in that thread.
Stock OG5 with Beastmode kernel is no slouch if you can get it setup to counter the issues from applying just root.
Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

samep said:
+1 Way too many risks trying to downgrade. There was a way mentioned to flash any Lollipop ROM but I doubt it applies to KitKat.
Give Lollipop 5.1.1/OG5 a chance. It's got some security and bug fixes the other stock versions and ports don't have. There's even some ports like themes and Screen Off Memo that work with it. And Xposed works as well.
Development is coming along. Read the thread on Sacs Note 5 port for fixes fixes posted in the last 2 or 3 days for that ROM. (HINT: Before flashing, go into the zip archive to delete the test files in /system/etc/init.d and pull the build.prop and look for dpi and set it at 640 and replace it). That will get you started with a good custom ROM that should only get better going forward. I can't recall but I think was still yet another another fix posted in that thread.
Stock OG5 with Beastmode kernel is no slouch if you can get it setup to counter the issues from applying just root.
Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk
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Now, see, I don't really understand a portion of what you just said. But I get the tone of what you're saying and I appreciate the help anyway. : P

bastienfils said:
Now, see, I don't really understand a portion of what you just said. But I get the tone of what you're saying and I appreciate the help anyway. : P
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In that case, I highly recommend Hybrid X 3.0
The stock ROMs require a little attention. If you want to go with stock, I can send you a carbon copy of a PM I just sent to another user.
Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

Safestrap and root?

Is safestrap a viable option since everything is so locked down on this device? I remember when I bought the s4 for Verizon, safestrap was my only saving grace. Will delete if this question has been answered. I can't find it anywhere though. Also, what are the chances of root actually being obtained because everything seems pretty grim to me. I can't even find any discussion on anyone even attempting to get root for 928a. Thanks much!:good:

Root, as for this phone, G928A, is slim to none. With the updates that fixed the Stagefright exploit, it's very doubtful. Safestrap will only work if there's Stable root (not temp root - like on Note 4, for example).

S6
Maxninja said:
Root, as for this phone, G928A, is slim to none. With the updates that fixed the Stagefright exploit, it's very doubtful. Safestrap will only work if there's Stable root (not temp root - like on Note 4, for example).
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My only question left then is how did the at&t and verzion galaxy s6 variants obtain root? Stagefright exploit is still unfixed or did someone discover a new exploit?

They were on kitkat and able to get an exploit to work to have root. For further details, go to the forum and take a look

Maxninja said:
They were on kitkat and able to get an exploit to work to have root. For further details, go to the forum and take a look
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AT&T S6 and S6 edge both were shipped with Lollipop 5.0.1 and I have root for mine and my wife phone.

5.0.1 root available?

Hi everyone, hope you're having an amazing day!
I was wondering if there is a root available for the SM-N910V running 5.0.1. I've looked on google, and there are lots of yes, and no answers. Could someone help clear this up for me?
Thanks!

There is not a root available for the retail edition of the Verizon note 4 on 5.0.1.

Redjay412 said:
There is not a root available for the retail edition of the Verizon note 4 on 5.0.1.
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Okay, thanks! Hopefully, there'll be one eventually!

JRM_3 said:
Okay, thanks! Hopefully, there'll be one eventually!
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Dont search for root, root method is already there for developers edition, so the fact that ROOT IS ALREADY THERE is 100% true.
What you need to search for is either "unlock bootloader" or "rooted firmware" or "rooted kernel" or something else.
Not much so far.
Just make sure when u search google, click search tools and select more recent results. That way u dont end up finding most popular pages that are many many months old.

tonycstech said:
Dont search for root, root method is already there for developers edition, so the fact that ROOT IS ALREADY THERE is 100% true.
What you need to search for is either "unlock bootloader" or "rooted firmware" or "rooted kernel" or something else.
Not much so far.
Just make sure when u search google, click search tools and select more recent results. That way u dont end up finding most popular pages that are many many months old.
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Actually, requesting root for 5.0.1 in this forum is quite appropriate and very different from unlocked bootloaders, rooted firmware or rooted kernel. In fact, installing a new kernel or rom usually requires an unlocked bootloader and getting that done usually requires a root method first so there's some chance of writing a new recovery. With root, methods such as what is now known as SafeStrap (the result of a technique discovered by Birdman, matured by myself and then claimed by another person who's made a habit of claiming others' work as his own) can allow for quite a bit of customization, but typically not so much as a new kernel, let alone different ROMs.
Right now, the state of the Note 4 is that only the Dev Edition (DE) has much of anything going on. You'll find all sorts of frustrating and unclear information about KingRoot, but it's of almost no use unless you think you can abuse it to search for a more complete and permanent root method, but if you knew how to do such a thing, I doubt you'd be here asking for root If you see ROMs or anything else advanced in this forum that doesn't specify it's only for the DE, assume it is.
I've been around since the days of CupCake (and built WiMo roms previously, along with some of the earliest ROMs and rooting) and based on experience, I'd say that the only chance left seeing root on the retail Note 4 is if another root method (new as of today/2015-12-28) is discovered elsewhere that applies to 5.x/5.0.1 OR the Note 4 sees another OTA and we get really lucky (unlikely).

exactly why am returning it and getting S5. But even with S5 its unclear if towelroot will work or not.
I assume it will if S5 was not updated to 5.0+ but runs older 4.4.4. Is this correct assumption ?
Thanks for informative reply.

tonycstech said:
exactly why am returning it and getting S5. But even with S5 its unclear if towelroot will work or not.
I assume it will if S5 was not updated to 5.0+ but runs older 4.4.4. Is this correct assumption ?
Thanks for informative reply.
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Yes but I would do some reading in the Verizon s5 forum because there is a build cutoff for root on the s5. If you're getting a new s5 from Verizon the chances are low you will get one without the latest build at this point

cursixx said:
Yes but I would do some reading in the Verizon s5 forum because there is a build cutoff for root on the s5. If you're getting a new s5 from Verizon the chances are low you will get one without the latest build at this point
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Seller said its still on 4.4.4 which is good news.
I just now need to find a thread on how to root 4.4.4 S5

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23681161096070831
Whatever you do don't take any OTA updates, some are forced so get it rooted asap and then use the pre-rooted lollipop images