Check out my review, unboxing and comparison video of the Hi10 and Vi10 above. I also have the gaming video of the Chuwi Hi10 as well.
Specs
Windows 10
8000mAh Battery
INTEL® ATOM® x5 Cherry Trail Z8300 Processor
RAM - 4GB
ROM - 64GB
10.1 Inch Resolution 1920*1200 pixels
Dual 2.0MP cameras
FAQs
My tablet isn't charging with the charger that came with the tablet? Use another one, many have reported faulty stock chargers.
Can this tablet run games? Yes, less intense games can be run at lower resolutions
Guides
How to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit Windows 10!
http://techtablets.com/forum/topic/chuwi-h10-32bit-to-64bit-upgrade-v200-hardware/
Say thanks to Sj12345 & Sniper47 by clicking on the quotes below!
Chuwi BIOS Update
Sj12345 said:
Hi guys, here is a new update from Chuwi Forum
Firmware for Serial number HI10 4215110 (0001-1028) link
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ht9am2b9dfpp1dh/AAA7oApODn-yqVC8w0bPo89la?dl=0
Firmware for Serial number HI10 4215110 (1029-3000) link
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ht9am2b9dfpp1dh/AAA7oApODn-yqVC8w0bPo89la?dl=0
Firmware for Serial number HI10 4215110 (3001-Up) link
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qrs5tmkhh2sth91/AADMbu3nYkM8pHiOTKetGYZra?dl=0
Also New Bios update for V300 (Realtek wifi / blue 3.0 usb port) for serial number 4215110 (5000-Up) here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7UJF0mw6LjJMDZkdXlVMHFLa2c/view?usp=sharing
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Equalizer software to make the speakers sound better
Sniper47 said:
Hello @bobq1979. Sorry for that. I always try to make sure registration isn't required to see links I put at XDA. I communicated with Chinaphonearena admin and that issue has been fixed. For downloading, go to this link https://www.mediafire.com/folder/89110vv87cl1j/www.chinaphonearena.com_Tutorial_downloads
Then Chuwi Hi10 folder: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/udk9twjk5z45w/Chuwi_Hi10
The link has been tested while not logged in to Mediafire and should allow the public to download.
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When it will be available .. And at what cost?
Shipping of the first units should start around the middle of November - at least according to one reseller.
Quite a shame I went for the Vi10 Pro 64GB Z3736F, when this is coming around in a month (from China to Europe in 2 months with shipping?) for a bit extra price.
Hopefully I'll be able to swap it without any harm to my wallet, haha
There is a new vi10 ultimate with that chip you can check it om banggod
Enviado desde mi M52_Red_Note mediante Tapatalk
phoenix10 said:
When it will be available .. And at what cost?
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You can look here: http://www.pompmall.com/chuwi-hi10.html
Impossible specs,cherry trail z8300 processor will not take 4gb ram ? if it was the cherry trail z8500 processor then it will take 4gb ram,so at the moment the specs are very unreal,also i thought this tablet was a 10.6 inch screen,it's down as a 10.1 ?
The price will be around $200. Pretty good for what you get if you ask me. Don't be fooled by these overpriced offers at Aliexpress. Banggood is a legit site and listed it at price below $190! And they marked the battery as a real 6800mah, not 8000mah. I 100% trust them rather than these sellers on Aliexpress having questinable reputation.
Could I technically Android and create a dual boot of windows/Linux mint on this?
I think that the real question, is wether the tablet has the z8300 or the z8500.
Because, as it has allready been said, the z8300 does not support 4gb ram
Anyone has any knowledge on that fact?
CrazyAnt said:
I think that the real question, is wether the tablet has the z8300 or the z8500.
Because, as it has allready been said, the z8300 does not support 4gb ram
Anyone has any knowledge on that fact?
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I heard there will be z8500 CPU. I hope so.
I cant wait to get that tablet.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/CHUW...-1080-HDMI-Bluetooth-WiFi---Black-354658.html
Questions & Answers
Alex Henstra 10/23/2015
x8300 only allows for 2GB RAM so the CPU or the amount of RAM is incorrect?
Reply by GeekBuying 10/23/2015
Hello, dear sir
Thank you for your support to Geekbuying.
Yes, it's really with z8300 processor and supports 4gb ram, we confirmed it with the manufacture.
Hope our answers are helpful for you.
Best Regards!
Ugh I kinda want one of these but fail to see real world applicable use when I have a One plus One and a laptop already :/ ....
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[email protected] x8300
techtablets.com/2015/10/intel-atom-x5-z8300-can-run-4gb-of-ram-it-seems
I cant post urls.
So search for "techtablets intel z8300 4g".
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Many of the new Cherry Trail Tablets due to be released soon like the Chuwi Hi10 have Atom X5 Z8300’s in them, but with 4GB of Ram. I originally thought this must have been a typo, or it was the Z8500, as it supports up to 8GB of Ram. Well it seems the X5 Z8300 can indeed support 4GB of Ram, although Intel’s Ark claims it’s limited to 2GB & single channel.
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see pictures of live operation system screenshots with 4GB.
The sellers "4GB" claims seem to be legit.
Eagerly awaiting the release of this to make my decision on getting one or going with the Teclast X98 Pro.
Chuwi Online Press Event: Chuwi Hi10 Details Released
http://techtablets.com/2015/11/chuwi-online-press-event-full-chuwi-hi10-details-released/
I will be ordering on When they become available for sale in a week. No duel boot, but USB and a decent screen.
kiwiruss said:
Chuwi Online Press Event: Chuwi Hi10 Details Released
http://techtablets.com/2015/11/chuwi-online-press-event-full-chuwi-hi10-details-released/
I will be ordering on When they become available for sale in a week. No duel boot, but USB and a decent screen.
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I'm just worried about the battery. Some people say 8000mAh and others say 6500mAh. Battery life won't be good if it's only 6500mAh.
zijin_cheng said:
I'm just worried about the battery. Some people say 8000mAh and others say 6500mAh. Battery life won't be good if it's only 6500mAh.
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I'm not an expert, but I did see that it has an 8000mAh battery rated at 6500mAh. Not sure what that means, but it sounds less than stellar for battery life.
Well I ordered on on black Friday and they said they will be in stock on December 4-5 and it ships via Netherland post (if you chose free shipping) so there will probably not be high (if at all) customs fees.
GShocked said:
Well I ordered on on black Friday and they said they will be in stock on December 4-5 and it ships via Netherland post (if you chose free shipping) so there will probably not be high (if at all) customs fees.
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Also got it on Black Friday, Talked to them today and they said it would be in stock on December 10.
Just got mines today!
Bought from China Microsoft Tmall during 11th Nov festival, with a free bluetooth keyboard.
Just got mines today!
Bought from China Microsoft Tmall during 11th Nov festival, with a free bluetooth keyboard.
Update:
After some time of using it, so far the screen flickering is the issue most people having.
Some other issues such as black screen after sleep (it's half wake, but not showing login menu), and screen will off randomly while using bluetooth keyboard.
Related
found this on gsm arena on the table of phones is the HTC HD3 name HTC HD7 maybe a windows 7 phone ??
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-hd7-to-launch-in-october-it’s-a-renamed-hd3/
found this on pocketnow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd3-hd7-rumored-again-features-amazing-spec-sheet
Nice looks great i also hope the desire HD has I 1.5ghz dragon inside
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771580
Almost too good to be true... I'd love to have a WXGA (1280x720) screen resolution!
Do you guys really think of dual-core arm 1,5 ghz cpu?
ne0cr0n said:
found this on pocketnow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd3-hd7-rumored-again-features-amazing-spec-sheet
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fake
10char
-=n3rd=- said:
Do you guys really think of dual-core arm 1,5 ghz cpu?
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Old news: http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sna...bile-CPU-war-beyond-1GHz-article-a_12546.html
So, where is it? Can't be that it hasn't been leaked if the release is so soon.
I spotted this a few days ago as well... I am not sure what to make of it as the info for it is rather scarce and tbh anyone can make a spreadsheet like that... and say it is an official "leaked" document from HTC...
I remain skeptic on this issue. If anyone can confirm this to be true, I will personally make an article for the front page for it.
4.5 inches? I'm not too sure if I would go for something that big.
3.8", yes. But don't people find 4.3" and up to be a little bit too big? Its like a mini-tablet.
Also, I was reading that article on the CPUs. Will you need a graphics chip in your phone in order to play high-quality 3D games or will a 1.2 ghz core 2 duo be able to handle that?
My plan expires this winter, so I am looking almost frantically for the perfect phone with dual cores and awesome performance and all that . (best time for my plan to expire)
4.3 is fine. Not sure about "and up". 3.5 is too small.
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4.5 inches? I'm not too sure if I would go for something that big.
3.8", yes. But don't people find 4.3" and up to be a little bit too big? Its like a mini-tablet.
Also, I was reading that article on the CPUs. Will you need a graphics chip in your phone in order to play high-quality 3D games or will a 1.2 ghz core 2 duo be able to handle that?
My plan expires this winter, so I am looking almost frantically for the perfect phone with dual cores and awesome performance and all that . (best time for my plan to expire)
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The bigger the better - I think I can go as high as 5". I've actually been looking at tablets myself. Right now I'm trying it all on for size: I have a travel laptop, an alienware laptop (it's not what I would call airplane portable, but I can take my desktop with me if I want to, and I do want to ), an iPad, and my phone.
Ultimately, I'd like it to be the phone and the mongo-laptop - so a bigger screen would be better. There are just some things / situations that lend themselves better to each of the 4 devices as they are right now.
As for the GPU - it's already in the 1.2 dual core chips (they are a System On a Chip - SOC). And yes, I think it's needed for the best 3D rendering but I'm not an expert
I'd like to have it.. only if..
Hmm.. spotted this in Google when looking for Win Phone 7 info.
Definitely, the spec is too good to be true.
One thing is that *no* GPS was mentioned in any of the posts..
But if I have to choose, I'd like to have GPS over HDMI..
Also, it seems Win Phone 7 still do not include multi-language input..
That means if I buy this phone, I'll have to search the Google again for JPN+Korean+Chinese input again, not to mention that it is highly possible to hard-reset the mobile for million times
I believe that 1800 mAh is not enough. HD3 will need to charge two times daily.
Cant beleive people here are falling for this BS:
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/pages/HTC_HD3_by_NAK_-2727167.html
efjay said:
Cant beleive people here are falling for this BS:
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/pages/HTC_HD3_by_NAK_-2727167.html
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Only some - that has been floating around since, what, February this year? Something like that
ne0cr0n said:
found this on pocketnow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd3-hd7-rumored-again-features-amazing-spec-sheet
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It's a french blogger that made that more than 6 months ago.....
Worse still - news yesterday was that even though Qualcom is shipping the 1.5 GHz dual core chips later this year, they wont make it into devices until mid to late next year. So, you can pretty much bet that the HD7 will not be 1.5GHz, if it is released this year.
eknutson said:
Worse still - news yesterday was that even though Qualcom is shipping the 1.5 GHz dual core chips later this year, they wont make it into devices until mid to late next year. So, you can pretty much bet that the HD7 will not be 1.5GHz, if it is released this year.
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For those of us with HD2s, there is little motivation to move to a WP7 then. The 1.5ghz units will probably sport a better version of WP7 anyways.
http://androidcommunity.com/archos-g9-tablets-with-ics-pre-orders-go-live-20120216/
is true that they have 1gb of memory? than you
yes yes it is true !
for the end for 1st quarter of 2012
Any other source than this site I never heard of before?
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Any other source than this site I never heard of before?
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Android Community is a very well known and trusted site
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using xda premium
I just ordered one from pixmania. They keep changing the date from 30 th jan to 2 feb to 5 feb and so on. Do you think i will het one with 1 gb ram?
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they have the 1GB ram version available for pre-order on Amazon, ordered last week delivery date estimated 2nd march
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00719KRP6/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
I would not trust Amazon. I ordered 4460/1GB, got 4430/512MB from US amazon.
Trust me
with my archos web site, i have many informations !
see that (in french) http://www.jbmm.fr/2012/01/une-vraie-info-archos-gen9-ics-1goram/
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haerwu said:
I would not trust Amazon. I ordered 4460/1GB, got 4430/512MB from US amazon.
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Well to be fare if its not whats advertised it will go back. But they are advertising as a pre-order meaning its not released yet. Also they are being very certain in saying 1.5ghz and 1gb ram theres no upto or anything like that in front.
cajl said:
Trust me
with my archos web site, i have many informations !
see that (in french)
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Amazon pushed back the release of the ics g9 to april.
do you have any info if this is due to the delay of ics, from februari to end of march or even later?
Not impressed with amazon but I guess its an Archos issue rather than Amazon so I got to wait till April 10th now. It better be worth it lol
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[/COLOR]Also they are being very certain in saying 1.5ghz and 1gb ram theres no upto or anything like that in front.
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http://www.amazon.com/Archos-80-G9-16GB-Turbo/dp/tech-data/B005MECBIS says:
Processor: 1.5 GHz A-Series Dual Core A4
Number of Processors: 1
RAM: 1000 MB
Which in Amazon slang means: OMAP4430 1.2GHz, 512MB ram.
I've just received my Onda V919 Air 3G, only the 32GB version is in stock at the time of writing this which I got from Geek Buying here: Mod edit: link removed (commercial advertisement not allowed) There seems to be supply issues as the system was delayed a few times by Onda and the 64GB model is still about 2 weeks off from shipping out.
I think it's a promising looking system that could do with some custom roms and XDA Love The OS switch button seems to just reboot the tablet in the OS, it's not really a non reboot on the fly OS switch like Onda claim it is! It's only a bit faster than the Teclast OS dual boot switch due to not having the dual boot menu to go through. However if you want to boot to Android and you shutdown in Windows, you have to load Windows then do the switch, no direct menu on boot to jump to Android, this is slower than Teclast's approach!
Edit: The latest bios update adds a dual boot start up selector menu if you hold volume up on boot.
First impressions:
So far my initial impressions are generally good, the system is more of an iPad Air clone than the X98 Air 3G is in terms of its looks. I''ll be putting the tablet through it's paces so far I can report that:
Pros:
Nice build quality, better than my X98 Air 3G (Feels more solid)
Captive home button for Android and Windows start button is a nice addition.
Light rom for a Chinese tablet.
Fast Hynix 32GB eMMC drive - 160mbs read and 80 write)
Cons:
Slightly larger gap (0.1-0.2mm?) between the screen and touch panel Vs the Teclast X98 Air 3G
No HDMI output
Some connectivity issues with my home Wireless N router, a few limited connections in Windows.
Battery life a good 1-2 hours less than the Teclast X98 Air 3G depending on use.
You have to remove the plastic top cover when removing sd cards and your Wifi and 3G aerial is there, so you will loose signal!
Full Hardware Specifications:
Brand Name: Onda
Teclast Model: v919 Air 3G dual boot
Processor Model: Intel Bay Trail-T Z3736F
Processor Main Frequency: Quad Core, 64-bit, 2.16GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics GEN7
Memory Capacity: 2Gb DDR3L
Tablet Data Capacity: 32GB or 64GB
Screen Size: 9.7"
Display resolution: 2048x1536
Screen Technology : IPS 10 Point touch Capactive Screen
Dimensions : 240x170x7.9mm
Camera (Front): 2MP
Second Camera (Back): 5MP
Net Weight: 496g
Network Communiction: Built-in 3G,Bluetooth,Wifi
Extend Port: 3G External,Earphone Jack,OTG,TF card
Supporting Language: English,Russian,Spanish,Swedish,Portuguese,Turkish ,Italian,German,Chinese,French,Japanese,Polish,Ukr ainian,Greek,Hebrew
Other Feature: G Sensor,Phone Call
Operating System: Android 4.4.4 and Windows 8.1 Bing
Cell Capacity: 7000mAh
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Know issues
Dual boot switch software will break on factory resetting Windows, fix is here
Android development
Android development
Windows development
Windows development
Onda v919 Air 3G Driver dump:
Mod edit: link removed (registration required)
Windows 8.1 bing image with drivers:
(Uploading)
InsydeQ2S Dual OS Switcher software (Toolbar Android Switcher):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58519844&postcount=25
Latest bios update, also adds dual boot menu on launch if you hold volume up on boot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58527558&postcount=31
Reserved space for more info
Onda V919 Air 3G Dual OS Game Reviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuTQN9hdrds
also bought this tablet. n still waiting it arrive..
Can you tell me free space on the 2 OS?
terakunomiya said:
also bought this tablet. n still waiting it arrive..
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Beli dimana dan dapet hrg brp bro?
abie1102 said:
Beli dimana dan dapet hrg brp bro?
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beli dr aliexpress kena 235 dolar. msh nunggu nih dah seminggu di kirim tapi bru update trackingnya..
ga tau nih ntar masuknya kena pajak brp. kmrn itu ambil teclast x98 kena pajak 560rb. gelooo...
Is the battery cell capacity indeed 6000 mAh? Because when I Iook on the Onda website in the textual specifications it states 7000 mAh.
This one might have HSPA capabilities with T-Mobile in the US. I am hoping someone can confirm soon.
GPS?
Does this tablet has GPS?
jjmmll said:
Does this tablet has GPS?
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in its official website it says NO GPS, a big deal breaker for me
great
i think i will love this thread ...
Hendrickson, well done my friend
i got bored about teclast lies and i hope onda, will be better ...
lets order some onda v919 3G tablet ... and dev a bit on it
jjmmll said:
Does this tablet has GPS?
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No Gps and no hdmi out. I'm having issues with Windows and a limited connection on Wifi or it disconnecting, Android however runs fine. Play Store works out of the box and the rom is nice and responsive.
After Windows updates I ran out of disk space for some reason, I'm doing a factory reset. I had around 8GB free to start with.
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No Gps and no hdmi out. I'm having issues with Windows and a limited connection on Wifi or it disconnecting, Android however runs fine. Play Store works out of the box and the rom is nice and responsive.
After Windows updates I ran out of disk space for some reason, I'm doing a factory reset. I had around 8GB free to start with.
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did you install fresh windows or win8.1 chinese from onda ?
supercowz said:
great
i think i will love this thread ...
Hendrickson, well done my friend
i got bored about teclast lies and i hope onda, will be better ...
lets order some onda v919 3G tablet ... and dev a bit on it
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I'm hoping for the same, there is also the Cube i6 dual OS 9.7 retina tablet coming which Cube claim will be the best dual OS retina tablet.... I have seen other Cube products and they are good
I can report that after 40 minutes of Real Racing 3 no freezing issues on the Z3637F
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did you install fresh windows or win8.1 chinese from onda ?
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Still on the win8.1 chinese from onda, I might have to install my own Windows if I can't get past these issues. My micro sd card doesn't seem to work well on it either for some reason, just teething issues I hope!
Hendrickson said:
I'm hoping for the same, there is also the Cube i6 dual OS 9.7 retina tablet coming which Cube claim will be the best dual OS retina tablet.... I have seen other Cube products and they are good
I can report that after 40 minutes of Real Racing 3 no freezing issues on the Z3637F
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still to early to say this but do you think Teclast uses some defected SOCs in their boards?
SUMMERBREEZE said:
still to early to say this but do you think Teclast uses some defected SOCs in their boards?
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based on my own estimation teclast, 30% are defective product
the fastmode fix is a joke, since with this pseudo patch the tablet run slower but dont freeze but only in android ... still freezing under win8.1
teclast cant be trusted anymore .... i will advoid this brand in futur ...
anyway teclast are very weak about software/firmware .....
ist seem teclast focus about sale and $$ ... and dont care much about customer
Well I've a rather big issue, I factory reset my Windows install due to Windows update eating up all of my free space and as a result I dont have the OS switch working. Any ideas on how to install the OS switch, I have no access to Windows now
The link to Insyde DualOSSwitcher.exe is there in the toolbar, but the folder and app is missing!
Chuwi Hipad Gaming Tablet - Review Hub
So what do you think:
Is the 3GB of RAM enough?
Is choosing the older Helio X27 wise?
Good value bargain? or a re-hashed dated tablet?
So i'm the only owner here?
I was hoping there would be more.
I'll try and post a mini review in the next days to help future buyers.
I was just looking at the HiPad. I would love to hear what you think of it.
tutor5040 said:
I was just looking at the HiPad. I would love to hear what you think of it.
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I just started a mini review here on xda.
I'll update it shortly.
Tell what would you like me to check for you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/device-reviews-and-information/chuwi-hi-pad-t3865250
Ok guys this is serious.
Don't order the Rog Phone 6D which will release 09.19.22!!!!
It doesn't make any sense.
Any other brand will include the dimensity 9000+ only in the vanilla edition
See this comparison of:
Xiaomi 12S Pro (sd8+ gen1) VS 12 Pro (d9000+)
for instance !!!!!
The sd8 + gen1 clearly wins in this comparison!! the only benefit of the d9000 seems to be less heat.
They will try to sell the dimensity edition for the price of the pro while having less costs producing the phone.
This time around dimensity only overclocked the soc while Qualcomm went from 5 to 4 nm aswell. I know reviews like those of "golden reviewer" too where the dimensity chips were more efficient. But this time they actually loose in the bechmarks by a big margin.
there is a reason why Xiaomi used the 9000+ in the vanilla edition (starts at 570$) and the 8+ gen1 in the S pro edition.(starts at 670$)
We ain't fools Asus...
Now you could say: "well that's a Xiaomi device, you can't compare that".
DO YOU RATHER BELIEVE SOME BENCHMARK SCREENSHOTS OF THE ROG 6D?
OR RATHER BELIEVE THE FACT THAT THEY PUT A BETTER SOC BECAUSE OF 3% HIGHER PEAK PERFORMANCE??!!
If the Rog 6D really was better than the rog 6/6 pro.
They would have waited for global shipping of the rog6 pro to start before teasing the rog 6 D
(rog6 pro global shipping starts 01.09)
There is a reason why Dimensity SOCs are a China exclusive most of the time! So they can run the lobby in europ. But we ain't fools.
Why they do this?
They want you to cancel the peorder of the rog 6 pro because the sd8+ gen1 is more expensive. (Once the ROG 6 D is released rog 6 & Pro will run out of stock soon).
This way they want to hold you longer on the wait list by making it look like an opportunity for an even better device. But it's a trap. Once everybody knows it is the vanilla edition, not only are you gonna wait longer for the worse device. It will also be a disappointment. Your performance will be worse for the same money like an exynos user. Also the rog 6/6pro will be no longer available & they will have gifted less cooling fans too as many customers will try to get the previous models later, after seeing comparisonsof the d model. You will turn into a mediatek fanboy hoping for updates and slowly fade away in disappointment.
I've pre-ordered the ROG 6 pro btw. not gonna cancel it.
Dont forget Media <Moderator Edit> being closed source and no one in this community will ever fix their bugfest.
nadejo said:
Ok guys this is serious.
Don't order the Rog Phone 6D which will release 09.19.22!!!!
It doesn't make any sense.
Any other brand will include the dimensity 9000+ only in the vanilla edition
See this comparison of:
Xiaomi 12S Pro (sd8+ gen1) VS 12 Pro (d9000+)
for instance !!!!!
The sd8 + gen1 clearly wins in this comparison!! the only benefit of the d9000 seems to be less heat.
They will try to sell the dimensity edition for the price of the pro while having less costs producing the phone.
This time around dimensity only overclocked the soc while Qualcomm went from 5 to 4 nm aswell. I know reviews like those of "golden reviewer" too where the dimensity chips were more efficient. But this time they actually loose in the bechmarks by a big margin.
there is a reason why Xiaomi used the 9000+ in the vanilla edition (starts at 570$) and the 8+ gen1 in the S pro edition.(starts at 670$)
We ain't fools Asus...
Now you could say: "well that's a Xiaomi device, you can't compare that".
DO YOU RATHER BELIEVE SOME BENCHMARK SCREENSHOTS OF THE ROG 6D?
OR RATHER BELIEVE THE FACT THAT THEY PUT A BETTER SOC BECAUSE OF 3% HIGHER PEAK PERFORMANCE??!!
If the Rog 6D really was better than the rog 6/6 pro.
They would have waited for global shipping of the rog6 pro to start before teasing the rog 6 D
(rog6 pro global shipping starts 01.09)
There is a reason why Dimensity SOCs are a China exclusive most of the time! So they can run the lobby in europ. But we ain't fools.
Why they do this?
They want you to cancel the peorder of the rog 6 pro because the sd8+ gen1 is more expensive. (Once the ROG 6 D is released rog 6 & Pro will run out of stock soon).
This way they want to hold you longer on the wait list by making it look like an opportunity for an even better device. But it's a trap. Once everybody knows it is the vanilla edition, not only are you gonna wait longer for the worse device. It will also be a disappointment. Your performance will be worse for the same money like an exynos user. Also the rog 6/6pro will be no longer available & they will have gifted less cooling fans too as many customers will try to get the previous models later, after seeing comparisonsof the d model. You will turn into a mediatek fanboy hoping for updates and slowly fade away in disappointment.
I've pre-ordered the ROG 6 pro btw. not gonna cancel it.
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Sometimes I wonder why people write so much <Moderator Edit> these days and post sources that literally go against what they say.
The snapdragon 8+ 1 clearly lost to the dimensity. Almost everything was equal except for 2 things which dimensity won, not by a little, but by quite a large margin.
1.) Camera performance was significanly better, the detail was much better on the dimensity and even the dynamic range was also notably better, this comes to no real surprise since the ISP on the mediatek is roughly 3x as fast as the one found in the qualcom variant.
2.) On Gaming performance the dimensity won by quite a large margin, as stated by your own source, there are some heavy drops on qualcomm based phones, which really isnt anything new, this doesnt exist on the dimensity, it delivers way more fluid and reliable gaming experience, this is also the reason why we see more and more devices starting to use the new mediatek chips.
The real reason why they want to switch to mediatek seems to me that they are sick and tired of their power IC's and SOC's from qualcom blowing up or causing other type of issues. Many who own the Rog2,Rog5, Rog5s and soon QC Rog6 users know exacly what I'm talking about.
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Neither is qualcomm. While they do have some things that are open source, their most important and interesting things are closed source. The only reason the things we have from QC are open source is because QC has to adhere to certain laws since they are based in the US, which forces them to open source their GPL based stuff, anything that isnt, you aint gettin anything. As far as I'm concerned, both have the same <Moderator Edit> attitude, QC however does market it as "they choose to open source" their things, trying to market themselves at the "good guys", much like apple and microsoft do despite their clearly anti consumer stance.
Regardless if youre an QC <Moderator Edit> or a mediatek <Moderator Edit>, ordering a Rog6 is completely <Moderator Edit> to begin with. Nobody should preorder a Rog6, period, we all know the Rog6S will likely be pushed out in a couple of months with a far superior gen2 / whatever <Moderator Edit> mediatek will push out and you have spent big bucks on an already outdated phone.
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i prefer higher texture quality over high fps and battery life. That's just me.
nadejo said:
i prefer higher texture quality over high fps and battery life. That's just me.
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I prefer facts <Moderator Edit>.
You have yet to prove your <Moderator Edit> claim that mediatek chips render lower texture resolutions in games.
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I prefer facts over nonsense.
You have yet to prove your made up claim that mediatek chips render lower texture resolutions in games.
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The Dimensity 9000 wins in CPU performance, while the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 leads in GPU. It's a different ballgame when power consumption is considered, though, as the MediaTek Dimensity 9000 looks to be more efficient across the board.
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(this is a gaming phone, so you tell me what's the priority here)
also the new d9000+ has only overclocked the cpu while the snapdragon 8+ gen 1 uses 4nm instead of 5nn now.
And we didn't even mention that most games are optimized for snapdragon gpus anyways.
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The Dimensity 9000 wins in CPU performance, while the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 leads in GPU. It's a different ballgame when power consumption is considered, though, as the MediaTek Dimensity 9000 looks to be more efficient across the board.
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(this is a gaming phone, so you tell me what's the priority here)
also the new d9000+ has only overclocked the cpu while the snapdragon 8+ gen 1 uses 4nm instead of 5nn now.
And we didn't even mention that most games are optimized for snapdragon gpus anyways.
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I cant help but facepalm.
Then why does dimensity run far better in games? Did you watch your own source?
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surprisingly, there is a few big fluctuations in 12S pro (qualcomm), it is higher peak but with few big drops but the performance of the xiaomi 12 pro dimensity is much more stable
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The dimensity IS the better gaming chip, <Moderator Edit> the dimensity is better.
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I cant help but facepalm.
Then why does dimensity run far better in games? Did you watch your own source?
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The dimensity IS the better gaming chip, <Moderator Edit> the dimensity is better.
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No it isn't. It uses lower resolutions watch the reviews of golden reviewer on YouTube. It's not bad but the snapdragon is slightly better in terms of gpu performance. I agree the dimensity is more efficient. But the gap is much smaller now since snapdragon uses 4nm. The optimizations for snapdragon across Playstore apps/games are way more important to me. I won't trade that against slightly more cpu power and slightly more efficiency. it's about 3% m8 that's not much.
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No it isn't. It uses lower resolutions watch the reviews of golden reviewer on YouTube. It's not bad but the snapdragon is slightly better in terms of gpu performance. I agree the dimensity is more efficient. But the gap is much smaller now since snapdragon uses 4nm. The optimizations for snapdragon across Playstore apps/games are way more important to me. I won't trade that against slightly more cpu power and slightly more efficiency. it's about 3% m8 that's not much.
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I'd like you to source your claim, instead of mentioning a random youtuber name expecting us to search for it. Also the dimensity is more optimized which the reviewer you sourced showcased. It's even the Gen8+ vs 9000+ <Moderator Edit>
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I'd like you to source your claim, instead of mentioning a random youtuber name expecting us to search for it. Also the dimensity is more optimized which the reviewer you sourced showcased. It's even the Gen8+ vs 9000+ <Moderator Edit>
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this screenshot shows all the facts. Now you can call this "not reliable" but that's all we can see right now. And this isn't just a benchmark screenshot, it's the reality. Same phone, different chips. There you see the truth.
What's that lift-up grey flap for on the 6D Ultimate (instead of "Dare to play" light)?
Some extra connectivity port/ a difference in hardware compared to ROG phone 6 Pro?
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@elmor0 Good question, I'll ask
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Why don't you just admit defeat? You clearly contradicted yourself, made baseless claims and cannot source any of your claims. You're making a giant fool out of yourself.
@elmor0 Good question, I'll ask
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The fact that Xiaomi is selling the same device with dimensity 9000+ 100$ cheaper and the fact that it scores 100k less on AnTuTu compared to the snapdragon version is enough source for evidence to me that the snapdragon rog phone 6 is the better choice. <Moderator Edit>
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i bet my but that antutu of the rog phone 6d is fake. I've seen that already. As long i don't see it on YouTube i won't believe any Screenshots
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I need my android apps without a notch or a punchhole, with the highest possible refreshrate, with a headphone jack, with a good translated os & the most compatible soc. Rog 6 pro comes with all of that. I even produce music on my android and just did 1200€ with a HipHop beat on Spotify. (fl mobile) I'm a different breed. computers won't cut it for me. I'm on the next lvl. I produce on oc too. but the workflow on Android is crazy fast. got already 100 beats running on all stores bro.
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