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Chainfire posted a long writeup of what the future holds for root on Android phones including Lollipop. It's an interesting read.
"As stated above, it seems for now that modifications to the kernel package are required to have root, we cannot attain it with only modifications to the system partition.
Combine that with a locked bootloader (and optionally dm-verity) and a device becomes nigh unrootable - exactly as intended by the security guys.
Exploit-based roots are already harder to do thanks to SELinux, and now because of the kernel requirements for persistent root, these exploits will need to be run at every boot. Exploits that make the system unstable (as many do) are thus out as well.
It is now thus more important than ever to buy unlocked devices if you want root."
Edit: Tikerz beat me to it. His post is here. Mods delete if you want.
No real surprise to me. It was only a matter of time before it got locked down to the point of no easy exploit. I'm surprised it took this long, actually.
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man locking bootloaders is one thing.. but root??!?
its not even a poormans route anymore to get a carrier phone over a factory one, you need to choose between functionality or reception..
i wonder if Xposed is responsible for crazy bootloader security moving over to root.
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The lack of root in the foreseeable future really ruined my excitement for this phone I have gotten so used to all the nice features of root (in addition to custom ROMs) like Ti Backup, AdAway, customization, etc. that I do not want to fork out the money for a phone that doesn't feel truly mine.
That said, I'm confident the devs will find a solution. Just like every iPhone has been jailbroken there will be root for the Note 4!
There is a root for the note 4.....just not ours ...as intended...if we want root we bought the wrong device...I got it the day before it came out in the mail and was excited I wasn't aware that it was going to be so neglected...I was at least hoping for a safestrap like the note 3 I had that I don't anymore because it shattered and they gave me this as a replacement...now I can't get root...way too sleezy...they got me!
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I certainly don't see it as 'sleezy', as the devices were always known to be locked. It isnt like AT&T were endorsing root or safe strap in the first place... Or secretly locked it at the last minute without telling anyone.
But opinions on morality aside, it is disappointing that root may take a while. Though I'm still optimistic that it will happen eventually.
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JasonJoel said:
I certainly don't see it as 'sleezy', as the devices were always known to be locked. It isnt like AT&T were endorsing root or safe strap in the first place... Or secretly locked it at the last minute without telling anyone.
But opinions on morality aside, it is disappointing that root may take a while. Though I'm still optimistic that it will happen eventually.
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Do you have a feel for how long it might take? How many phones have there been historically that never made it? Cheers!
funnycreature said:
Do you have a feel for how long it might take? How many phones have there been historically that never made it? Cheers!
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Depends if you have a smart enough person with enough time / incentive.
Thus....the bounty thread we all made to hopefully catch a genius eye or 2
funnycreature said:
Do you have a feel for how long it might take? How many phones have there been historically that never made it? Cheers!
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AT&T Note 3 still does not have an unlocked boot loader. I wouldn't hold out for one on this phone. Also everyone with locked boot loaders will loose root permanently when lollipop rolls out.
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pr0cl1v1ty said:
Depends if you have a smart enough person with enough time / incentive.
Thus....the bounty thread we all made to hopefully catch a genius eye or 2
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I agree with you but "enough time" could be a whole year
mircury said:
It is now thus more important than ever to buy unlocked devices if you want root."
Edit: Tikerz beat me to it. His post is here. Mods delete if you want.
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Yeah, if you can afford it, for the rest of us though, it sounds like we'll be out of luck.
Maybe we need to start looking at hardware hacks, like when chipping a console?
Maybe an insecure boot.img can root this phone.
Focus on the boot loader. If it gets unlocked we will be fine with root.
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AT&T Note 3 still does not have an unlocked boot loader. I wouldn't hold out for one on this phone. Also everyone with locked boot loaders will loose root permanently when lollipop rolls out.
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Which is why I will be buying the T-Mobile Note 4 and unlocking. They already have root and TWRP.
At the very least, I just want AdAway to be functional.
I may sell my att one when my bb pre-order arrives and buy a T-Mobile version...
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Maybe we need to start looking at hardware hacks, like when chipping a console?
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That would be the way to go if the bootloader will not be unlocked. It.will be like Playstation 3 .
nice having posts like this just right up front.... I come to xda for the modding and mainly rooting of my phones.... att releases a totally locked down note 4 and already people are speaking out about its probably not going to get an unlock like the s5... I give up all hope of seeing a subsidized note 4 and start waiting on a nexus 6 to see if the bootloader is still unlockable.
So within 3 posts and less than 15 minutes I learned abandon the att n4... quick and easy... ty xda :highfive:
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I agree with you but "enough time" could be a whole year
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Im coming from the S5 I have faith in the Devs here in the beginning with the S5 seemed like all hope was lost and then out of nowhere root was available. I'm going to enjoy the device and give whoever has the means enough time to do their thing it will happen eventually
I recently picked up the G4 for $99 to avoid being charged an extra $20/month for my unlimited data.
I'm coming from the G3, which I loved. My question is, does anyone think development of any ROMs will happen?
I remembereh when I got the G3, the same thing was happening, no development, then over night it exploded. My G4 came with 11a, which is nice except the miserable touch experience. Any thoughts, should I sell it and get something different, or ride out the storm and hope for the best? Sorry for all the rambling.
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I came from the G2 so I honestly don't know how to answer your question. Things are pretty grim here on the verizon side.
Thanks for the responce, I'll ride it out for a week or two, then just sell my g4 if a new update or development doesn't aspire.
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I recently picked up the G4 for $99 to avoid being charged an extra $20/month for my unlimited data.
I'm coming from the G3, which I loved. My question is, does anyone think development of any ROMs will happen?
I remembereh when I got the G3, the same thing was happening, no development, then over night it exploded. My G4 came with 11a, which is nice except the miserable touch experience. Any thoughts, should I sell it and get something different, or ride out the storm and hope for the best? Sorry for all the rambling.
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If you're looking for development, this isn't the droid you're looking for.
Sell it and get a Nexus device. I almost threw mine to the wall many times because of the touch screen.
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What everyone else said, this device is doomed right now in terms of development for anyone who is above 10b.
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If you're looking for development, this isn't the droid you're looking for.
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Ha, best quote on here! Thanks for the responses guys, tough desicion. This is a great phone, but I think I might go with the Nexus 6, the 6p is to expensive. The nexus 5 is nice as well, just seems like downgrade. Ideas?
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Give them the phone back and get your unlimited data back, if you really don't want the unlimited you can give it to someone or sell it...
drmalenko said:
Give them the phone back and get your unlimited data back, if you really don't want the unlimited you can give it to someone or sell it...
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I still have my unlimited, I transferredkm my Upgrade to my second line, then just put my SIM in the new phone, works everytime.
So I have ad guy interested in trading his Nexus 6 for many G4, should I pull the trigger?
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jzmax22 said:
So I have ad guy interested in trading his Nexus 6 for many G4, should I pull the trigger?
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If you want development you should. This phone is going nowhere in that department.
jzmax22 said:
I still have my unlimited, I transferredkm my Upgrade to my second line, then just put my SIM in the new phone, works everytime.
So I have ad guy interested in trading his Nexus 6 for many G4, should I pull the trigger?
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Absolutely not! The Nexus 6 can be purchased new for $289. The G4 still retails for $499 I believe, if it's still new you could easily sell it for $350-$400.
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Absolutely not! The Nexus 6 can be purchased new for $289. The G4 still retails for $499 I believe, if it's still new you could easily sell it for $350-$400.
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That's what thought, thanks. The 6 is to big for me anyways, I have a feeling development will eventually happen. Right now I'm happy with root and hotspot working, just wish there was a fix for the touchscreen issues. They are getting old quick.
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jzmax22 said:
That's what thought, thanks. The 6 is to big for me anyways, I have a feeling development will eventually happen. Right now I'm happy with root and hotspot working, just wish there was a fix for the touchscreen issues. They are getting old quick.
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Don't forget Xposed, I have a guide on that here as well.
Personally I don't think any development will come. I had the G2, G3, and G4, and with each new model there was less and less dev support. From what I heard you need to be on 10b for the possible bootloader exploit, but most of us are past that version now.
geoff5093 said:
Don't forget Xposed, I have a guide on that here as well.
Personally I don't think any development will come. I had the G2, G3, and G4, and with each new model there was less and less dev support. From what I heard you need to be on 10b for the possible bootloader exploit, but most of us are past that version now.
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Link for guide? Never really loved xposed, but what the heck, I'll give it a go.
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geoff5093 said:
Absolutely not! The Nexus 6 can be purchased new for $289. The G4 still retails for $499 I believe, if it's still new you could easily sell it for $350-$400.
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New ones are going on Swappa for $300, and mint N6s for about the same, maybe a hair less.
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Link for guide? Never really loved xposed, but what the heck, I'll give it a go.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g4/general/guide-install-xposed-verizon-g4-t3182267
Get G4 Tweaksbox if you install Xposed.
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New ones are going on Swappa for $300, and mint N6s for about the same, maybe a hair less.
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I just sold mine a week ago used for $360. New ones are selling for anywhere between $310-$350. Still more than a Nexus 6 new for $289.
If you wanted to flip a phone, the G4 is one of the worst honestly. You should have gotten an iPhone or Note5.
Question. I think I can live with root and freezing the LG UI bloat stuff. The main question is are the new models fixed for the touchscreen issue? I'm seeing new ones for sale on swappa. They have manufacture dates of 08/2015. Are August production phones free of the touchscreen issue?
I just received a May 2015 g4 from best buy. Still on 10b. They keep trying to force an update. I will try to keep stalling. Was it 11 update that introduced the touchscreen issues? I don't want to root yet because I want Android pay.
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wekurtz74 said:
I just received a May 2015 g4 from best buy. Still on 10b. They keep trying to force an update. I will try to keep stalling. Was it 11 update that introduced the touchscreen issues? I don't want to root yet because I want Android pay.
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If you root, then install xposed...you can install root cloak for Android Pay. It works perfectly for me. Just don't try and open Android Pay between the time that you root it and install Root Cloak (and add it to the cloaking list).
killswitch23456 said:
If you root, then install xposed...you can install root cloak for Android Pay. It works perfectly for me. Just don't try and open Android Pay between the time that you root it and install Root Cloak (and add it to the cloaking list).
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Does xposed drain the battery on the g4? I had it on the g3 and it ruined battery life.
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Hey all,
Currently a BB Passport owner and yes I do love my phone, However, the maps are not getting updated, its starting to get laggy, and BB making a push into android before deciding to just stay with IOT security. well I hope the priv does well but the slider would get chewed up in my line of work.
Thus here I am asking the following.
The G4 runs 808 which from what I've read overtime supersedes the 810 in performance due to heat and throttling. I was originally sold on the Sony Z5 because I work marine construction and figured with a good case the water resistance would proof nice and I wouldnt have to get a rugged phone whereby I lose a lot of performance.
Z5 has 810 and im personally leery of that chip since I read so many reports on it.
My attention then turned to the G4
from what i've read the phone has a nice camera, strong antenna and a nice leather back. Cool but, for me I need to know how it handles the weather. I plan on putting it in a defender case while at work, but it rains here on vancouver island A LOT. like inches a day sometimes and I may need to bust out my phone to calc board footage or weight of a lumber package or take a call or something.
Is the phone loud?
Is the phone going to be ok in a otterbox in those conditions? (I get OB is good for dropping, how about rain, the oops a puddle drop etc)
if these all look good, I may bite the bullet and grab one. Im really not excited to lose my keyboard on my passport but, some of the glitches im getting are over the top irritating.
Thanks all,
Jordan.
For the keyboard just install SwiftKey which beat any keyboard and you can set, personalized it to be more productive.
Put a thin case and it will be great.
It charges fast, the phone is loud.
Here is the thing. IF you do not care not having an unlocked bootloader for the G4, by all means, get the G4 since it is a fantastic device for average users. But if ever you'd gotten yourself an H815 EUR variant of the G4, absolutely get it!
shigi1231 said:
Here is the thing. IF you do not care not having an unlocked bootloader for the G4, by all means, get the G4 since it is a fantastic device for average users. But if ever you'd gotten yourself an H815 EUR variant of the G4, absolutely get it!
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Hrm, when I had a Droid before, mucking with it was kinda half the fun... that kinda stinks.. any word on bootloader ever being unlocked?
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It looks like the Canadian one is the h812... if I'm googling correctly.
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Gorship7 said:
It looks like the Canadian one is the h815... if I'm googling correctly.
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Lol. I thing your google is broken .
H812 is canadien
H815 is euro and some middle east countries
H81? There are a lot of different models. Mainly different bands
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crzygrmn said:
Lol. I thing your google is broken .
H812 is canadien
H815 is euro and some middle east countries
H81? There are a lot of different models. Mainly different bands
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I edited the post. Google fu fails me. It reads as though the unlock will come, just a matter of when. I'm sure I could entertain myself with stock but rooted I spose. Just kinda stinkeths
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Same thought.
My Nexus 4 is failing me (antenna)...
So I am thinking of buying a H815.
Do you have any trouble with it?
If you are using Android 6, is doze working?
camera
And does the it support the new Camera HAL v3?
Would be nice, to be able to take raw pictures
You can take Raw pictures on any G4 camera version, I thought. That isn't something new.
There aren't many custom roms because of the locked bootloaders. Fortunately the LG series really stopped me from being a flashaholic. Going back to stock AOSP leaves a lot to be desired.
We do have root and can flash custom stuff such as Xposed and Tweaks using apps such as Flashify. There just isn't a Custom Recovery for the locked models.
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You can take Raw pictures on any G4 camera version, I thought. That isn't something new.
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Depends on the sensor, if it supports RAW, but nice to know that the G4 is supporting it.
player911 said:
There aren't many custom roms because of the locked bootloaders. Fortunately the LG series really stopped me from being a flashaholic. Going back to stock AOSP leaves a lot to be desired.
We do have root and can flash custom stuff such as Xposed and Tweaks using apps such as Flashify. There just isn't a Custom Recovery for the locked models.
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At least for the H815, it is possible to unlock the bootloader... but sounds very much like Samsung KNOX
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryTypeCode=ANRS
Will be flashing CyanogenMod as soon as possible, if I am going to buy it.
I got one
I joined the family today. I'll wait for someone to open that bootloader. One I got the phone in my hands I was sold.
Buy it anyway. Stock is better than any AOSP or Cyanogenmod any day of the century, and you will probably get used to LG stock anyway.
No idea why anyone would want to ruin a device by installing buggy software such as AOSP or CM and also destroy camera experience.
Can't see any reason for me to root or install rom's on this phone, it's perfect with MM.
On a side note, it's very easy to fix yourself too with a quick youtube guide.
Jonathan-H said:
Buy it anyway. Stock is better than any AOSP or Cyanogenmod any day of the century, and you will probably get used to LG stock anyway.
No idea why anyone would want to ruin a device by installing buggy software such as AOSP or CM and also destroy camera experience.
Can't see any reason for me to root or install rom's on this phone, it's perfect with MM.
On a side note, it's very easy to fix yourself too with a quick youtube guide.
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is there Marshmellow for the G4 812's?
Hi, I'm from Brazil and the G4 that I have is H815P, don't know what this "p" means.. The software version is V10a...
You guy's could show me the right direction on how to look for root and kdz stuff? My H815P is similar or equivalent to the H815 (without the "P")?
Thanks
Ok might seem like a silly question but I am gonna ask anyway. To me reading around I don't see root and unlocked bootloader really coming avab for this Verizon S8+
Right now I have the Moto X Pure rooted and I m the type I kinda like to have a rooted phone. Just been doing this a very long time and set in my ways.
How are you all that own this phone running unrooted. I mean I guess I could play around and use an unrooted phone but it's been a while.
Give me your opinions...
For adblocking I use adhell and it works great. Other than that, I guess I have lost interest in root. Only thing I really hated was ads
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mrbracht said:
For adblocking I use adhell and it works great. Other than that, I guess I have lost interest in root. Only thing I really hated was ads
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Thanks for the reply.
Yea I use adblock (rooted) now but I really think I would miss Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, and MyBackup and they all work well with a rooted phone.
I guess I will wait to see if root comes around and when the price drops on the phone.
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kendive said:
Thanks for the reply.
Yea I use adblock (rooted) now but I really think I would miss Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, and MyBackup and they all work well with a rooted phone.
I guess I will wait to see if root comes around and when the price drops on the phone.
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I was the same as you for years. I always rooted my devices and used the same apps that all required root. But now I really don't miss rooting and have accepted the fact that I can replace TB with SmartSwitch, use RE without accessing the root file system, etc.
I keep an old Nexus 7 (2013) on hand for those times I need to feed my addiction to SuperSU!
screw this give us root
martybg said:
screw this give us root
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Yea I am staying away from this phone unless it gets root.
ChadH42 said:
I was the same as you for years. I always rooted my devices and used the same apps that all required root. But now I really don't miss rooting and have accepted the fact that I can replace TB with SmartSwitch, use RE without accessing the root file system, etc.
I keep an old Nexus 7 (2013) on hand for those times I need to feed my addiction to SuperSU!
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Quick question for ya. When using SmartSwitch, does it actually switch app and the data for each app so it is as if I lose nothing? That's the one main reason I use TiBu. Thanks in advance.
ChadH42 said:
I was the same as you for years. I always rooted my devices and used the same apps that all required root. But now I really don't miss rooting and have accepted the fact that I can replace TB with SmartSwitch, use RE without accessing the root file system, etc.
I keep an old Nexus 7 (2013) on hand for those times I need to feed my addiction to SuperSU!
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SmartSwitch doesnt do app data.
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/support/skp/faq/1094130
Q4: Can Smart Switch backup or restore application data (like game progress data or chatting logs)?
A: Smart Switch mobile doesn’t support application data backup/restore. Smart Switch backs up the application list only
stajam said:
Quick question for ya. When using SmartSwitch, does it actually switch app and the data for each app so it is as if I lose nothing? That's the one main reason I use TiBu. Thanks in advance.
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It does not see above
kendive said:
Ok might seem like a silly question but I am gonna ask anyway. To me reading around I don't see root and unlocked bootloader really coming avab for this Verizon S8+
Right now I have the Moto X Pure rooted and I m the type I kinda like to have a rooted phone. Just been doing this a very long time and set in my ways.
How are you all that own this phone running unrooted. I mean I guess I could play around and use an unrooted phone but it's been a while.
Give me your opinions...
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This is my first phone ever that is not rooted. I have been using the nexus line for so long i am loving all these extra features that actually work.
My root list has kept shrinking over the years. do i miss it... sure... do i love this new phone... OH YEAH.
What about Viper audio? Is that possible without root? I just ordered a S8+ the unlocked version and am a bit concerned not seeing much on root. I see there are bounties out there for it and a lot of work being done towards root and possible BL unlocking, but who knows when it will come available. I did the incredible trade deal, hard to pass up, trading in a old note 3. But I need tethering out of the box, want Viper audio and use TiBu all the time. This needs to get rooted ASAP! Or I may send it back or sell it.....
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What about Viper audio? Is that possible without root? I just ordered a S8+ the unlocked version and am a bit concerned not seeing much on root. I see there are bounties out there for it and a lot of work being done towards root and possible BL unlocking, but who knows when it will come available. I did the incredible trade deal, hard to pass up, trading in a old note 3. But I need tethering out of the box, want Viper audio and use TiBu all the time. This needs to get rooted ASAP! Or I may send it back or sell it.....
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Good luck. I don't see this phone getting root. :crying:
I'm keeping my Moto X Pure as my daily driver for now. Thought about getting a Note 4 to play around with...
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I regret buying my unlocked s8+. Don't get me wrong it's a beast of a phone. But I'm like the OP I need root! So I'm probably gonna sell my s8+..
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BigM69 said:
I regret buying my unlocked s8+. Don't get me wrong it's a beast of a phone. But I'm like the OP I need root! So I'm probably gonna sell my s8+..
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What phone you getting instead?
Like many others on the thread, I have Moto X Pure on vzn. Great phone. Im looking to upgrade, and NEED root.
What are my options... besides waiting for pixel 2?
Cowbell_Guy said:
What phone you getting instead?
Like many others on the thread, I have Moto X Pure on vzn. Great phone. Im looking to upgrade, and NEED root.
What are my options... besides waiting for pixel 2?
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Before I got this damn s8+ I used the nexus 6. I used the N6 for 3 years absolutely still love that phone! I don't know man I'm thinking about the nexus 6p. The s8+ is a good phone I just need root and bootloader needs to become unlockable for me to keep it.
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Ok might seem like a silly question but I am gonna ask anyway. To me reading around I don't see root and unlocked bootloader really coming avab for this Verizon S8+
Right now I have the Moto X Pure rooted and I m the type I kinda like to have a rooted phone. Just been doing this a very long time and set in my ways.
How are you all that own this phone running unrooted. I mean I guess I could play around and use an unrooted phone but it's been a while.
Give me your opinions...
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I too came from a rooted Moto X Pure and personally I don't mind being unrooted. Sure I miss being able to use custom roms and having adaway and titanium backup but personally it's not that bad. I really like my S8+ and I would not go back lol.
blackra1n said:
I too came from a rooted Moto X Pure and personally I don't mind being unrooted. Sure I miss being able to use custom roms and having adaway and titanium backup but personally it's not that bad. I really like my S8+ and I would not go back lol.
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I will keep my rooted Moto X Pure just ordered a Note 4 to play with. There is no phone that great for me to use unrooted...
It sucks to not have root. Haven't had root since my Dev edition Note 4. Have had root on every phone previous since my original HTC Incredible smartphone way back when.
I do miss Titanium backup. And Ad Away. Those two things are by far the two that I miss the most. Helium worked well enough on my Note 7 and S7 Edge once I migrated to that from the banned Note & (that I held on to until the very last I could - into February). But Helium does NOT work worth a crap on the S8+. Quite a few apps would not migrate at all with any data, so I lost data on some apps. I found work arounds for most of them, but not all of them. And I use Adhell, but it's not nearly as good as Ad Away. But again, it's not a real big deal overall. Would love root but not expecting it to happen.
Totally agree with you guys!!!! Regret trading in my ROOTED s7 to get the s8+, Now if that's not a ****ing tool of a move I don't kno what is!!!!
I miss adaway, EXTREMELY BAD, I miss patched YouTube apps "no ads" & I ESPICIALLY, prob most of all over adaway I miss Arise
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OMG I just about blew a load allover myself, only 2 be again let down... ****ING US VARIANTS!!!!
http://www.stechguide.com/twrp-recovery-for-galaxy-s8-and-galaxy-s8-snapdragon-variant/
I'm just curious if anyone is thinking of moving to the LG V30 and if so what are your thoughts as to why? I'm good with my S8+ on Tmobile right now, but wouldn't mind a new device by the end of the year. Don't really care about the goggles that they're touting to give away, there's just not enough usable content out there to make them compelling. I used mine for about a week and now they just collect dust.
Just wondering what everyone else is thinking.
Depends if you want root. LG has been removing fastboot commands from US phones for awhile. I have a V10 as a backup but can honestly say I have no interest in going back to LG devices.
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Depends if you want root. LG has been removing fastboot commands from US phones for awhile. I have a V10 as a backup but can honestly say I have no interest in going back to LG devices.
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I'm just curious, I liked the LG devices. What makes you say you won't go back to them?
I didn't know about them removing fastboot. Does that mean we can't root the V30?
I can't say for sure if root will be achieved. The only reason root was achieved on the v20 was the dirtycow exploit. LG had heat issues and screen burn in issues on the three devices of theirs I've had in the last few years. Not to mention the whole bootloop issue on many devices.
I will not, My G4, My v10, Mom's, friends v10's bootlooped. I can't trust my memories to a device that has James Bond (Sorry meant Mission Impossible) motherboard.
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No more LG devices after the way they handled the bootloop issue.
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I will not, My G4, My v10, Mom's, friends v10's bootlooped. I can't trust my memories to a device that has James Bond motherboard.
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Sorry for the dumb question, what does "James Bond motherboard" mean? I've NEVER had an issue with an LG device so maybe I'm one of the lucky few. I like the form factor and I like the devices themselves. Just I'm waffling between switching as I bought a bunch of stuff for the s8+ so what do I do with all the stuff?
Sanjsrik: Sorry meant Mission Impossible.. Meaning self destructing
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Sanjsrik: Sorry meant Mission Impossible.. Meaning self destructing
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Oh, no worries. Were a lot of the devices having this issue? I had no issues at all with my V10 or V20.
yes, and there was a lawsuit brought against LG.
info: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xd...ssue-has-been-compelled-into-arbitration/amp/
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yes, and there was a lawsuit brought against LG.
info: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xd...ssue-has-been-compelled-into-arbitration/amp/
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geezalou, that sounds awful. I had absolutely no issues with my V10 or V20. I really liked the devices. I even rooted and put a good custom ROM on them.
The crazy nuts thing about the bootlooped issue from what I've experienced was; The G4, v10,G5,v20 line would bootlooped if u we're NOT rooted, NOT ever rooted, or currently rooted. My mom is to old to know what root is so she had a bone stock AT&T v10, My wife's was rooted on T-Mobile, and my father in law G4 was Verizon unrooted. so it's all carriers
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The crazy nuts thing about the bootlooped issue from what I've experienced was; The G4, v10,G5,v20 line would bootlooped if u we're NOT rooted, NOT ever rooted, or currently rooted. My mom is to old to know what root is so she had a bone stock AT&T v10, My wife's was rooted on T-Mobile, and my father in law G4 was Verizon unrooted. so it's all carriers
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I never had an issue. That's weird. Now, I'm starting to doubt the V30 thing. Well, the S8+ is a good phone so far.
I've only had my S8+ for a couple of months, so probably not. My last phone went tits up on me in August (my fault) and I needed a new phone, so decided to get the S8+, since it was one of the best Android phones available at the time. But if the V30 had been available at the time I might have opted for it instead of the S8+.
Tbh the fingerprint sensor placement still bugs the **** out of me. Others say that you get used to it, but two months later it still takes me 2-3 tries to get it to read correctly most times, even with a case. I use it dozens of times throughout the day, so it's not a little problem for me.
Don't get me wrong, other than that it's a great phone, and Samsung Pay is much better than Android Pay, imo. Also one of the first phones in years that I didn't feel the need to root immediately, which was honestly a bit of a surprise.
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It' s a damn good phone but the pOLED is a disaster. It's on the level of AMOLED 4 years ago with uneven illumination, blotches and stripes.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
The sad thing is this subpar screen will be probably in the Pixel 2 XL.
I had it and ugh sent it back oled and selfie cam were a bust for me.
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I've only had my S8+ for a couple of months, so probably not. My last phone went tits up on me in August (my fault) and I needed a new phone, so decided to get the S8+, since it was one of the best Android phones available at the time. But if the V30 had been available at the time I might have opted for it instead of the S8+.
Tbh the fingerprint sensor placement still bugs the **** out of me. Others say that you get used to it, but two months later it still takes me 2-3 tries to get it to read correctly most times, even with a case. I use it dozens of times throughout the day, so it's not a little problem for me.
Don't get me wrong, other than that it's a great phone, and Samsung Pay is much better than Android Pay, imo. Also one of the first phones in years that I didn't feel the need to root immediately, which was honestly a bit of a surprise.
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It's a lot better if you use a case to help find it
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The crazy nuts thing about the bootlooped issue from what I've experienced was; The G4, v10,G5,v20 line would bootlooped if u we're NOT rooted, NOT ever rooted, or currently rooted. My mom is to old to know what root is so she had a bone stock AT&T v10, My wife's was rooted on T-Mobile, and my father in law G4 was Verizon unrooted. so it's all carriers
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Now, I'm sort of sorry I asked. I was going to switch, but figure I can wait. While the S8+ doesn't have root or bootloader unlocked, the hell I know is better than the (you know the rest).
Anyone else seeing the "me-too" thing of LG offering the VR glasses. I have the ones that came with the S8+ but after the initial wow factor, it got old real fast and a lack of content made them useless. Even sideloaded, there wasn't a lot of good content. Most of it was overpriced and just bad.