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Randomly walked into an ATT store this morning and got a Note 4...

...So when are we getting a good root?

WwOliveros said:
...So when are we getting a good root?
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Probably never.

I bet by the end of this week. Root will be easy, bootloader will not be broken though. I just want my Titanium Backup and Root Explorer so root is all need.

I called a few att stores in my area and each of them said they have them in stock, but cannot sell them... How'd you pull this off?

Offline21 said:
I called a few att stores in my area and each of them said they have them in stock, but cannot sell them... How'd you pull this off?
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I just walked in and asked? Ha. And would we not be able to flash custom ROMS? I need my CM11!

You'll never have CM11 on it. Never. But you can use exposed and do other mods. Just no ROMS.

Wow. I guess a lot of things have changed since my old S3.

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Wow. I guess a lot of things have changed since my old S3.
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Exactly. That was the most recent samsung phone I've had where everything was in happy order. But that's why I'm buying t mobile version
They already have root

fcb1 said:
Exactly. That was the most recent samsung phone I've had where everything was in happy order. But that's why I'm buying t mobile version
They already have root
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Shoot. I might consider returning it and getting a Nexus 6 then. I never even bothered doing my homework on this, I assumed it would always be possible

WwOliveros said:
Shoot. I might consider returning it and getting a Nexus 6 then. I never even bothered doing my homework on this, I assumed it would always be possible
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I was surprised when it happened because samsung phones were always so open. Nexus 6 looks good but it's just a big phone with no feature that I know of at least to take advantage if that screen. At least they finally went above 32gb now. But I don't think I'll ever buy an AT&T phone ever again.

I did the same. Walked into an AT&T near me during lunch and got a white Note 4. I wasn't expecting to be able to get one but they are selling them here in Milwaukee.
Much like some of you here, I don't need anything more than root to run titanium and a couple other things. I never understood the idea of getting a note device to throw an AOSP rom on it that negates the S Pen functionality and other Note qualities. Why not just get any other big phone?

Tikerz said:
Probably never.
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Why do you say that? Root and bootloader are two completely different things.
Root should be easy and we should get it. Custom recovery on the other hand, probably not.

I'm in Pa and just called my local store, they have them in as well and the guy said I can come get one now. I'M on my way to pick up note 4 also. I'm with u guys just want root for titanium backup and xposed , I really don't flash roms to often anymore.

verks said:
You'll never have CM11 on it. Never. But you can use exposed and do other mods. Just no ROMS.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but these custom ROMS don't support the S Pen. If that is true, what use is the ROMS if you can't use the S Pen. That is one major point of the whole note.

mpazevedo said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but these custom ROMS don't support the S Pen. If that is true, what use is the ROMS if you can't use the S Pen. That is one major point of the whole note.
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The S Pen was never a real selling point for me. HTCs have bad cameras, LGs have have horrible reliability from mine/my buddies experience with the G2 and the Note is still the spec king. I could definitely get behind a Nexus though.

alpinesun said:
I did the same. Walked into an AT&T near me during lunch and got a white Note 4. I wasn't expecting to be able to get one but they are selling them here in Milwaukee.
Much like some of you here, I don't need anything more than root to run titanium and a couple other things. I never understood the idea of getting a note device to throw an AOSP rom on it that negates the S Pen functionality and other Note qualities. Why not just get any other big phone?
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Which store did you go to? I tried at the Greenfield store on 76th and Layton but they said they will start selling it on the 17th.

I don't mind touchwiz myself and if you haven't played with a note 4 in store you might be pretty happy with touchwiz this time around, its snappy and actually doesn't look nearly as bad as it used to. Can just install nova or google now launcher if it is that bothersome though from a UI perspective. Setting wise I think Samsung offers more a better features than aosp.
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I got the Note 4 in Pasadena, they had 5 white and 2 black. They are technically not suppose to sell them until Friday, but all the corp stores got them. It took a bit of effort to get them to admit they had them, and I pulled the corporate partner card on them so they went ahead with it.
Now what sucks is I can't transfer any of my data with titanium backup, I am wondering when root will be available.
I also agree with others here, if you don't need or care for the S-Pen the Nexus 6 is probably the device you want...
So who will be first to release a root?

Hopefully we can get root for now... Maybe we should check out the G3 forum as they got root with the bootloader locked...
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Got mine from a store in Austin today. Just walked in and they said they'd sell it.

I want to buy a T-Mobile G4. Some questions.

I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?

So far I have not found any issues. It's been great on my end. Root will come.. It always does
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I bought the T-Mobile version from eBay and received it on Saturday. So far no issues. The only gripe I have is slow charging while using the phone, but I just ordered some quick chargers so I should be good.
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Thus far I am pretty happy with mine. I have noticed that it sometimes interprets a quick swipe as a press (thus opening an app I did not intend) and that, at least on mine, the digitizer may not go all the way to the edge of the screen. The leftmost 1/8" or so of the screen does not appear to register touch input. The right side isn't great either, but does seem better. I have not heard anyone else mention it though, so hopefully it is just my unit.
The only other gripe I have about it for now is that the viewing angle on the screen is pretty narrow. If you aren't looking at the display straight on it tends to get washed out.

danielhep said:
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
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You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.

Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.

mircury said:
You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Does the international version have all the same bands? I really want to have band 12. WiFi calling is also important to me.
I wanted to buy it through T-Mobile also so I could get it on EIP, but I could just finance it through my parents too.
Where can I buy the international version?
What do you think the probability is that the T-Mobile version will get rooted?
Thanks
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vmartinez39 said:
Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.
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How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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danielhep said:
How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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The stock ROM isn't awful. I came from SlimKat (based on CM) and there are definitely some features that I miss (Long press back to kill & double pressing back to switch the the most recent app mostly). But after installing Nova and reducing the DPI (via ADB) it is very workable. I am still holding out hope for root, but with how great the camera is I am not sure I would flash back to an AOSP ROM.

danielhep said:
I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?
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Touch issues are fixed by the keyboard update. Just be sure to do all the updates available and you should be right as rain there.
Battery life, I get 28+ hours while streaming Spotify through BT speaker for 12 hours, an hour voice calls, as well as a bunch of other goofing around on the device. It's not Note 4 life, but it's far better than any most other phones I've had.
Root/unlock will come, but it could be a while. Honestly, I like the phone well enough stock to not really be all that worried about it. While I'm sure that some devs could make this a bit snappier by debloating it, the stock UI really is pretty snappy and nice.
Camera is also fantastic. Fast action shots come out clear....close up shots have TONS of detail.
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MicroMod777 said:
I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera

Th3Bill said:
ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera
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True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.

MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.

Th3Bill said:
Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.
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Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol

MicroMod777 said:
Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol
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Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha

Th3Bill said:
Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha
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I had to pay a whopping $317 just to get my hands on a G4 through tmo's financing department. At least my monthly payments on it are very low.
But it will cost me $322 shipped for that ZenFone 2! I just want to play with it! lol

The phone is great, few things though, the root and subsequently the ROMs will be limited especially when compared to a nexus or even an S6, I have owned every nexus since the Galaxy nexus and I also owned the LG g3, which was a great phone, but development even to this day just never compared and that's mainly because of the carrier specific versions. So if you really like to try all kinds of different ROMs I suggest getting the Nexus 6 although I would say this phone is much better in my opinion but I miss and will continue to miss the variety of ROMs and customizations from my Nexus 6 as well as the screen and front facing speakers. Biggest benefit over the nexus 6 is the camera as well as the size/design/weight. As far as the battery I highly highly suggest using nova launcher instead of the stock LG and disable the LG apps if you can makes the battery life way way better, also get the free battery and SD card that will help to Haha.
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My only real complaint about this phone is the lack of root.

MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Are they waiting on the bounty to hit $15k or until they can get a solid app with no errors that they can charge for?
I think it's more about the app.

mircury said:
You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Well said sir,
I screwed up and bought a Note 4 because of the deal I was getting ($400 outright), I immediately put away my flashaholics LG G2, and head to XDA only to see the At&t Note 4 has no ROMS, Kernels, or TWRP. Could not be more disappointed, a phone that should be a beast is hampered by no root. I would never touch the G4 or any other phone without full permanent root available in first 90 days of retail release. You are better off waiting to see what the new 2015 Moto X, Nexus ??, and OnePlus 2 will offer.

any working root method for the note?

hello,
apologizes for making a thread for this if its already been answered however just wondering if there is any working root method for the n910v? i see quite a few seeing that it has to be the dev edition. so im curious, is there any working instructions for unlocking the bootloader? since it being locked is the reason for lack of root access...thanks in advance and also another quick question is, are there any good roms for the verizon s3? want to install something else on it. again thanks

Friend, just a brief scan will tell you that the answer to your question is no. There is no bootloader unlock for the Verizon Note 4 n910v. Allegedly devs are working on something, but given that it's been out for over a year and nothing has happened yet, I would wager that we will never see it happen in our lifetime. It took me a while, but I've learned to live without rooting my Note 4.

I'm still within the 14 days to return or exchange my Note 4, but I've made the decision to keep it, even though it might never get root, and I've rooted everything I've had. Once I made the decision to buy the unlock code for FoxFi, it made the decision easier, considering all I really needed root for was the tether feature. If for some reason FoxFi stops working again, I can always use my S4 for the same purpose. Do I wish I could get rid of the ads in some of my apps, sure, but they're apps that I can always find better versions of. Plus, if I really need more room for games and such, I can use my Tab 3 that is rooted.

I personally think that the Note 4 without root, with Nova launcher Prime is an awesome phone that I will keep till it dies! My phone kicks butt, better than any of my previous phones!
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outcasted2003 said:
I personally think that the Note 4 without root, with Nova launcher Prime is an awesome phone that I will keep till it dies! My phone kicks butt, better than any of my previous phones!
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Are you running on 4.4.4?

no root is very, very unpleasant. for example, i can't pull my authenticator credentials. worst, i can't secure the device. vz can pull anything on me, which means i am vulnerable to social and financial loss.

Personally, I USE ADW Launcher EX.
Root would be great for themed OS'S and getting rid bloatware.

will4958 said:
I'm still within the 14 days to return or exchange my Note 4, but I've made the decision to keep it, even though it might never get root, and I've rooted everything I've had. Once I made the decision to buy the unlock code for FoxFi, it made the decision easier, considering all I really needed root for was the tether feature. If for some reason FoxFi stops working again, I can always use my S4 for the same purpose. Do I wish I could get rid of the ads in some of my apps, sure, but they're apps that I can always find better versions of. Plus, if I really need more room for games and such, I can use my Tab 3 that is rooted.
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yea i just got my note 4 about a week ago lol so i could return it. but i like the device itself. just annoyed that i cant delete some of the bloatware and **** that comes preinstalled lol oh well. guess ill keep an eye out for any one who might just find a way of rooting. thanks to all who commented. i figured by what i was reading that there is no current root =/ but oh well.

Is rooting worth it on thid phone?

Hey, I was thinking about rooting but I can't seem to find the cons for rooting the note 7.. I know that when rooted, Knox is tripped and you can't pay with your phone + your warranty is gone, but are there any other reasons why you shouldn't root your Samsung?
Edit - the title is meant to say 'this' not 'thid'.

As of now you can root without tripping Knox on the SD820 variant but it's not worth it. You lose so much and gain so little. The warranty will be OK but you still lose the ability to use a lot of apps, such as Samsung pay as you mentioned. The best I got out of it was fully removing apps with titanium and AdAway. Without root I use ez disabler and Adguard.

It really depends on what you'll be doing with the phone. If you're gonna wanna try out different ROMs or kernels then obviously you'll need to root. If there's certain root apps you've used befire which you think you may do again, obviously you'll need root.
Personally, I don't tend to root these days for any other reason than Xposed. Even if I don't use many, or even any modules, I root in advance so I haven't gotta do it when I want to use them. With how good phones are these days though, there's less and less reasons to root
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KidCarter93 said:
It really depends on what you'll be doing with the phone. If you're gonna wanna try out different ROMs or kernels then obviously you'll need to root. If there's certain root apps you've used befire which you think you may do again, obviously you'll need root.
Personally, I don't tend to root these days for any other reason than Xposed. Even if I don't use many, or even any modules, I root in advance so I haven't gotta do it when I want to use them. With how good phones are these days though, there's less and less reasons to root
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Xposed for note7 yet? Im getting my note7 in a week.

masaforce said:
Xposed for note7 yet? Im getting my note7 in a week.
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Some xposed modules are working.

KidCarter93 said:
Personally, I don't tend to root these days for any other reason than Xposed. Even if I don't use many, or even any modules, I root in advance so I haven't gotta do it when I want to use them. With how good phones are these days though, there's less and less reasons to root
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Yeah that's true, I am mainly interested in the extra customisation of things like the lock screen and tweaks to improve the phone. Coming from iOS I always jailbroke so not having root makes me feel like I'm missing out, but I probably don't really need it.

hnrykw said:
Yeah that's true, I am mainly interested in the extra customisation of things like the lock screen and tweaks to improve the phone. Coming from iOS I always jailbroke so not having root makes me feel like I'm missing out, but I probably don't really need it.
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When it comes to customising the lock screen there's a bunch of apps that could probably do what you're looking for. Have a search around XDA and the Play Store and I'm sure you'll find something you like.
About tweaks to improve the phone, it's not really something that's needed (at least from my brief usage of the Note 7 so far). I'm not in a position to tell you whether you have to root or not though so crack on if you feel like it :good:
One of the good things with Android is that you can already do more right out of the box than you can with a jailbroken iPhone
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i am back!!

Owned every one plus until the 5 just don't see a big enough improvement to jump from the 3t so I got a note 8.. today I traded my note 8 for a 5t!!
What should be the first things I should do!!! I am hyped and excited for this phone.

Unlock bootloader now and save yourself a FDR, lol.
Congrats on getting the 5T. Really great phone.

xocomaox said:
Unlock bootloader now and save yourself a FDR, lol.
Congrats on getting the 5T. Really great phone.
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FDR?.. I am away for work so can't unlock for 2 weeks or so.. till I get back home

egren58 said:
FDR?.. I am away for work so can't unlock for 2 weeks or so.. till I get back home
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Factory data reset. Required when unlocking the bootloader.

egren58 said:
Owned every one plus until the 5 just don't see a big enough improvement to jump from the 3t so I got a note 8.. today I traded my note 8 for a 5t!!
What should be the first things I should do!!! I am hyped and excited for this phone.
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How's been your experience from note 8 to 5t as am thinking I would end up missing the note?

marvi0 said:
How's been your experience from note 8 to 5t as am thinking I would end up missing the note?
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All depends the 5t is much faster at pretty much everything. The note was too long for me.. and i did not like the Samsung skin on android. Also the note 8 selfie at dark is just trash to much noise. The one 5t is much better. I am more of a stock Android person so to me it was a good deal. Its very close to a pixel. Also thought the screen would be an issue. Honestly cant tell much of a difference. Never used the spen. I mean NOT ONCE... So that dint matter to me.

xocomaox said:
Factory data reset. Required when unlocking the bootloader.
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I dont mind. Resetting. I backup everything on cloud.

xocomaox said:
Unlock bootloader now and save yourself a FDR, lol.
Congrats on getting the 5T. Really great phone.
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Was planning on that until a realized unlocking BL now trips safetynet and not just root.

no offence as much as i love my 5T the note 8 is awesome!

qwertyaas said:
Was planning on that until a realized unlocking BL now trips safetynet and not just root.
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Most custom kernels have a SafteyNet bypass. Paired with Magisk, you can do everything a locked non-rooted user can.

I want to test T-Mobile's reception in my area as Verizon is so expensive. I ordered the 5t as the reviews were excellent. I plan to use the 5t as my work phone. I have not played with the 5t yet. That said, the Note 8 is an unbelievable phone. You can get root on it but I went back to stock. I use the Action Launcher with the Google Now plug in. I too hate Touchwiz.

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Most custom kernels have a SafteyNet bypass. Paired with Magisk, you can do everything a locked non-rooted user can.
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So at that point, the only difference if I don't want to flash roms yet is I won't be able to take OTAs and need to dirty flash the full zip and non-incremental?

To me the 5t is a much better phone. As i am more of a stock android guy. So i probably will never buy another samsung or any other phone thats not near stock android. Just love pure simple stock Android. No gimmicks or overwhelmed with features

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So at that point, the only difference if I don't want to flash roms yet is I won't be able to take OTAs and need to dirty flash the full zip and non-incremental?
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Not exactly. You can take an OTA if you uninstall Magisk and restore stock boot.img.

xocomaox said:
Unlock bootloader now and save yourself a FDR, lol.
Congrats on getting the 5T. Really great phone.
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Great minds think alike. I literally powered on my phone and hooked it up to the PC so I could get the reset over with right out of the box.

Dazed No More said:
Great minds think alike. I literally powered on my phone and hooked it up to the PC so I could get the reset over with right out of the box.
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Ill unlock when i get in town. Loving the phone out of the box. Looking for a aosp tom soon. Or a rom with Google gaps set by defult not a fan of this dialers/messaging apps