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hi, I didnt find anything about swapping the nand chip from one phone to another so i was wondering if this is possible since my girlfriends phone is broken and contains over 700 pic and videos and she has no backups. im pretty sure the mobo is fried as the charger light will no longer come on and phone will never attempt to boot. there is a guy on craigslist with the same phone( droid incredibe) with cracked screen for cheap. i could swap out parts and make one good phone but would like to swap nand as well as the screen. does anyone know if this is possible without having to flash the nand chip or lose any data? or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
1) It would be helpful to describe what is broken and/or how it happened. Did it malfunction during a backup, bootloop, etc.
(not assuming anything but just saying)
2) If it's a battery issue have you tried using another battery to at least transfer files to a computer?
3) Have you tried using another usb cable in the event your cable gave out?
That would be VERY difficult, if not impossible. That component is not socketed in like you'd expect to see in a computer. Everything is soldered to the board and the chips typically use a ball grid array connector. Installing it on another system board would be nigh impossible without the soldering paste used in manufacturing. I wish I had a better answer for you. Even if I tried to do it with things around the house, I think I'd destroy the chip and the working system board in the process. You'd need a fairly precise oven.
Sorry snoop, tried all that. Different battery, wire etc. I have 2 of them so I did swap stuff around. And I should have said what happened to it. It got stepped on and bent a little. The mobo got cracked.
Loonatic, thank you. That is some good information as I didn't know how it was attached. I am pretty good at fixing things but that sounds difficult.
Thank you both for trying to help or provide some insight.
The memory chip is Pretty much garbage if I can't get it off of the motherboard so I guess it wouldn't be a loss if I broke it. I might give it a shot
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It's cool, ironically enough once I read loonatik's response I realized this was way over my head.
Hi guys,
I had my Gnex for more than a year and thought I was one of the lucky ones without USB wake problems. That is, the USB port thinks it's being plugged in or unplugged causing the screen to turn on and subsequently kill your battery. Unfortunately, I started noticing the phone turn on occasionally. Then, it progressively got worse over the course of about 6 weeks to the point where it had to be plugged in several times a day.
One of the tricks that helped in the short-term was to move nudge/coax the contacts in the port in an upward direction. So, with your phone facing up insert something very thin (ideally plastic or paper-based) between the bottom of the port housing and the nipple thing that sticks out that has all the copper contacts on it. There is almost zero room, so you'll need to search for a suitable tool. Once you put a bit of pressure in an upward direction for a few moments you'll find your phone doesn't wake up at all, or as much. Unfortunately, that only helped for a while.
I'm not sure what the cause of problem is. I hypothesize that corrosion occurred when I left my phone in the washroom while I had a steamy shower every day for a few months, but who knows.
I found no suitable software workarounds.
I didn't want to junk the phone, so I ordered a replacement part for only $5.99 + shipping. You can find the part here: Witrigs. Given the price, I suggest you order two. I don't recall the shipping, but it wasn't expensive. Delivery was around 7 days to Canada (from Hong Kong). Website is definitely legit. Maybe add some other parts to your order, if you feel so inclined.
The install wasn't too bad. I'm a dummy and thought I would skip steps that I didn't think were necessary, like removing my sim card. Don't skip steps! The iFixit instructions I followed don't seem to be around anymore. There are guides on YouTube etc that are helpful but they make it look way too easy. Expect to struggle with removal of the screen from the casing. Be careful when you're jamming around into the edges because there are many delicate sensors and buttons which can be broken. Credit cards work well. Overall it's safe, just use your common sense.
Overall, the replacement wasn't too bad. Unfortunately, the replacement part was IDENTICAL to the outgoing port. I was hoping there was a revision, but no dice. I'm glad I bought the second replacement port, just in case I have the same problem in the future.
Anyways, I did this a few months ago and am trying to remember the best I can. I hope this might help somebody.
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Anyways, I did this a few months ago and am trying to remember the best I can. I hope this might help somebody.
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Thanks for sharing your experience,MO and advices; I can remember several that had the issue and some fix it by just working around the usb port with a suitable tool, others tried to replace the part without sucess, and others with sucess;
Offtopic: I think this thread belongs in General, no question here. Reported.
Replaced my charging port + flex board yesterday. Ordered the replacement from Aliexpress for $3.something and free shipping! Took around 2 weeks to reach me, but the part works perfectly and you can get faster delivery by paying for express delivery.
The iFixit guide is still there:
1. http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+Nexus+Teardown/7182/1
2. http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repairi...+LTE)+Micro+USB+Charge+Port+&+Main+Mic/9641/1
Also looked at various youtube videos before I finally undertook the replacement.
Cheers to everyone who fixed their own phones!!
I thought I'd share my experience with this, as I've seen posts in the past relating to a water damaged phone boot looping and I don't think I've seen a proper solution given.
First thing's first, this advice is in relation to a very specific type of boot looping. Nothing to do with rooting, or software bugs. This is boot looping that has come about as a result of water damage. It may not have been long, maybe a couple of seconds in the toilet or some brief rain exposure. Whatever it is, you know your phone has been exposed to some water and it has begun boot looping. There will be no way to get out of it, as the phone boots for 2/3 seconds max before looping all over again. Even when you go into recovery, same thing, automatically boot loops.
Most people, including the official HTC Service Centre, will tell you the motherboard is fried and needs replacement. Whilst it is possible that may be true, it isn't guaranteed. It's an easy way out for HTC, as they can charge you an extortionate price for a new motherboard and not have to bother going through the work of taking the phone apart to find out what is wrong.
The solution may be much simpler - the Power Flex Cable. This is a very small cable that goes along the top of your phone. WHen water damaged, this cable can become damaged, causing a constant boot loop. The reason being it constantly tells the phone the power button is on, causing a constant on/off cycle. In this instance the motherboard is fine and you can get a replacement Flex Cable for less than £5!
There is an easy way to tell whether the Flex Cable is the likely cause of your looping. When the phone is looping, hold down the down volume button only. Don't touch the power button. If your phone still goes into recovery (then loops again) then it is entirely possible your Flex Cable is damaged, not your motherboard.
Next step, order a Flex Cable (they are easy to find). When it arrives, you will need to open your phone (there are guides on YouTube for this), detach the motherboard and replace the Flex Cable. An advance warning, this isn't easy and you have to be extremely careful. One bad move and your phone is history. The motherboard is delicate. If you look around the internet you will find guides which show how the HTC One X is configured. Note that the Flex Cable is behind the motherboard and quite awkward to get off. I would post a couple of links but as a new member I'm not allowed! PM me and I'm happy to share some helpful links though.
You'll know quickly if this has worked. When connecting your phone it will no longer loop. Let it charge for a little while, then power on and hope for the best. If the Flex Cable was the problem your phone will reboot, and you will be able to use it and get your data off.
Note that water damage can have long lasting effects on a mobile phone. Whilst this may solve the problem for a while, it's entirely possible your phone will fail at some point down the line. Prepare for that and make sure you back up accordingly. The above advice may give you a lifeline in getting data off your phone, though, and being able to use it for a little longer. I know that when I was looking around the net I only found this advice by chance, and I think it was on a non-phone related forum. This advice may exist on the forum somewhere but if so it isn't so easy to find. I hope somebody may come across this topic when trying to fix their water damaged phone and find it is the solution.
Good luck!
Same symptoms, but no water damage
Hey man,
Thanks a ton for your post. I have the same issue, as in it won't stop booting at all. However, mine didn't happen because of water damage, but when I tried to do a factory reset (the phone was only on 5% charge so I'm not sure if that screwed it up). Do you think it could still be solved with a flex cable? I tried holding just the volume button down, and it does go into the bootloader so it seems pretty much exactly like what you have described!
Cheers
My only experience with replacing the flex cable comes from water damage, I'm not sure whether a software fault (as this appears to be) could have any effect on the cable itself!
When you get into the bootloader screen, does it just cycle all the way through to fastboot without allowing you to select any other options before rebooting? If so it would suggest your phone thinks the power button is constantly pushed down, which is suggestive of a power flex cable fault.
These cables are very cheap to buy, so if you aren't able to do anything else with the phone it's definitely worth a shot, even if it doesn't work. Just remember that opening the phone voids your warranty, and be careful if you do attempt it, as the insides of the One X are quite delicate. It would be very easy to break something!
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My only experience with replacing the flex cable comes from water damage, I'm not sure whether a software fault (as this appears to be) could have any effect on the cable itself!
When you get into the bootloader screen, does it just cycle all the way through to fastboot without allowing you to select any other options before rebooting? If so it would suggest your phone thinks the power button is constantly pushed down, which is suggestive of a power flex cable fault.
These cables are very cheap to buy, so if you aren't able to do anything else with the phone it's definitely worth a shot, even if it doesn't work. Just remember that opening the phone voids your warranty, and be careful if you do attempt it, as the insides of the One X are quite delicate. It would be very easy to break something!
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I had to replace my power flex cable when I was changing my battery as I accidentally snapped it.
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I had to replace my power flex cable when I was changing my battery as I accidentally snapped it.
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It's very easy to do, the flex cable is a fragile piece. There are quite a few parts inside the HOX which could easily snap, which is why I always urge a lot of caution when opening the phone up!
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I thought I'd share my experience with this, as I've seen posts in the past relating to a water damaged phone boot looping and I don't think I've seen a proper solution given.
First thing's first, this advice is in relation to a very specific type of boot looping. Nothing to do with rooting, or software bugs. This is boot looping that has come about as a result of water damage. It may not have been long, maybe a couple of seconds in the toilet or some brief rain exposure. Whatever it is, you know your phone has been exposed to some water and it has begun boot looping. There will be no way to get out of it, as the phone boots for 2/3 seconds max before looping all over again. Even when you go into recovery, same thing, automatically boot loops.
Most people, including the official HTC Service Centre, will tell you the motherboard is fried and needs replacement. Whilst it is possible that may be true, it isn't guaranteed. It's an easy way out for HTC, as they can charge you an extortionate price for a new motherboard and not have to bother going through the work of taking the phone apart to find out what is wrong.
The solution may be much simpler - the Power Flex Cable. This is a very small cable that goes along the top of your phone. WHen water damaged, this cable can become damaged, causing a constant boot loop. The reason being it constantly tells the phone the power button is on, causing a constant on/off cycle. In this instance the motherboard is fine and you can get a replacement Flex Cable for less than £5!
There is an easy way to tell whether the Flex Cable is the likely cause of your looping. When the phone is looping, hold down the down volume button only. Don't touch the power button. If your phone still goes into recovery (then loops again) then it is entirely possible your Flex Cable is damaged, not your motherboard.
Next step, order a Flex Cable (they are easy to find). When it arrives, you will need to open your phone (there are guides on YouTube for this), detach the motherboard and replace the Flex Cable. An advance warning, this isn't easy and you have to be extremely careful. One bad move and your phone is history. The motherboard is delicate. If you look around the internet you will find guides which show how the HTC One X is configured. Note that the Flex Cable is behind the motherboard and quite awkward to get off. I would post a couple of links but as a new member I'm not allowed! PM me and I'm happy to share some helpful links though.
You'll know quickly if this has worked. When connecting your phone it will no longer loop. Let it charge for a little while, then power on and hope for the best. If the Flex Cable was the problem your phone will reboot, and you will be able to use it and get your data off.
Note that water damage can have long lasting effects on a mobile phone. Whilst this may solve the problem for a while, it's entirely possible your phone will fail at some point down the line. Prepare for that and make sure you back up accordingly. The above advice may give you a lifeline in getting data off your phone, though, and being able to use it for a little longer. I know that when I was looking around the net I only found this advice by chance, and I think it was on a non-phone related forum. This advice may exist on the forum somewhere but if so it isn't so easy to find. I hope somebody may come across this topic when trying to fix their water damaged phone and find it is the solution.
Good luck!
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Thanks. I've already taken the back off and noticed some broken bits of plastic...from the back....but I did notice a bit of ribbon that looked a bit screwed up....I'm gonna take it to the gizmo wizard to fix once I buy a new power flex cable.
Good luck!
Another thing to try
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Good luck!
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Old thread I know but thought it was worth adding that with a water damaged phone the issues can result from the fact that tap water contains minerals which can leave a conductive residue when it dries - can change resistances, cause shorts etc. What I've done previously is used isopropyl alcohol (tape head cleaning fluid) with a toothbrush on the motherboard. Brought a phone back to life. This removes the mineral deposits and cleans everything. Had to remove the metal covers from the mobo first though. If a phone is basically dead or not working right after water damage then it's worth a go. As de4life says, just need to be super careful on the HOX with all the delicate ribbon cables.
Indeed, the phone should be thoroughly clensed if possible to wipe out any corrosive liquids left behind from the water (especially if it's dropped in an ocean). The effects of corrosion can be very slow and potentially last for months.
M8 please reply to this all the flex cables that I found are 40$+ can you give me a link for one as you stated that would cost 5 pounds
It worked
It worked! I replaced the power flex cable with a spare one on my HTC One X, previously damaged by being sucked by my one year old son - water damage.! It worked!
Many thanks to you man!
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Many thanks to you man!
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Wondering if this is the right cable?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Power-O...972183?hash=item27d4be6597:g:n6AAAOSw9GhYbb-y
Thanks!
Thank you!
de4life said:
I thought I'd share my experience with this, as I've seen posts in the past relating to a water damaged phone boot looping and I don't think I've seen a proper solution given.
First thing's first, this advice is in relation to a very specific type of boot looping. Nothing to do with rooting, or software bugs. This is boot looping that has come about as a result of water damage. It may not have been long, maybe a couple of seconds in the toilet or some brief rain exposure. Whatever it is, you know your phone has been exposed to some water and it has begun boot looping. There will be no way to get out of it, as the phone boots for 2/3 seconds max before looping all over again. Even when you go into recovery, same thing, automatically boot loops.
Most people, including the official HTC Service Centre, will tell you the motherboard is fried and needs replacement. Whilst it is possible that may be true, it isn't guaranteed. It's an easy way out for HTC, as they can charge you an extortionate price for a new motherboard and not have to bother going through the work of taking the phone apart to find out what is wrong.
The solution may be much simpler - the Power Flex Cable. This is a very small cable that goes along the top of your phone. WHen water damaged, this cable can become damaged, causing a constant boot loop. The reason being it constantly tells the phone the power button is on, causing a constant on/off cycle. In this instance the motherboard is fine and you can get a replacement Flex Cable for less than £5!
There is an easy way to tell whether the Flex Cable is the likely cause of your looping. When the phone is looping, hold down the down volume button only. Don't touch the power button. If your phone still goes into recovery (then loops again) then it is entirely possible your Flex Cable is damaged, not your motherboard.
Next step, order a Flex Cable (they are easy to find). When it arrives, you will need to open your phone (there are guides on YouTube for this), detach the motherboard and replace the Flex Cable. An advance warning, this isn't easy and you have to be extremely careful. One bad move and your phone is history. The motherboard is delicate. If you look around the internet you will find guides which show how the HTC One X is configured. Note that the Flex Cable is behind the motherboard and quite awkward to get off. I would post a couple of links but as a new member I'm not allowed! PM me and I'm happy to share some helpful links though.
You'll know quickly if this has worked. When connecting your phone it will no longer loop. Let it charge for a little while, then power on and hope for the best. If the Flex Cable was the problem your phone will reboot, and you will be able to use it and get your data off.
Note that water damage can have long lasting effects on a mobile phone. Whilst this may solve the problem for a while, it's entirely possible your phone will fail at some point down the line. Prepare for that and make sure you back up accordingly. The above advice may give you a lifeline in getting data off your phone, though, and being able to use it for a little longer. I know that when I was looking around the net I only found this advice by chance, and I think it was on a non-phone related forum. This advice may exist on the forum somewhere but if so it isn't so easy to find. I hope somebody may come across this topic when trying to fix their water damaged phone and find it is the solution.
Good luck!
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Thank you very much for typing this out! My Google Pixel OG (2016), which was made by HTC, experienced the exact same problem. I have just fixed it by replacing the power flex cable like you suggested.
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Thank you very much for typing this out! My Google Pixel OG (2016), which was made by HTC, experienced the exact same problem. I have just fixed it by replacing the power flex cable like you suggested.
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I was surprised to get a notification for this old thread! I'm glad this worked for you. I had no idea HTC used the same design for the original Pixel.
ive been having a problem with this phone for a while. it has a problem with turning on and statying on. i will set it on charge while its powered off for atleast two hours, but as soon as i turn it on it will last for about 5 mins and turn off.
i first replaced the battery and it has the same problem. so i replaced the charging port and it was working fine for a few weeks and now its back to the same issue. i cant even get it to charge now
so just trying to figure out what kind of other components it could be
Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
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Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
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well i greatly appreciate your lengthly response. to be honest, it is my mothers phone, which is why i want to try and fix it. i gave her an iphone so she really doesnt need this phone but i would like to figure out what is wrong because i do like to tinker with things. i have tried different chords, wall outlets, usb ports on the pc etc. i will reopen the phone to see if everything is back together, because thats the only thing i can think of from what you mentioned.
thanks again. if anyone has had a similar problem, let me know
sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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The OP already tried both of those things.
Oh ok yeah i just noticed where he put that. Hardware problem maybe. Im more into software myself than i am hardware.
MINE TOO! Omg
This... it's too much. Okay, a month ago the damned power button got too hard to press in, which should have been a warning that the hardware was getting faulty I suppose. But I downloaded an app that let me use the volume button to turn screen on/off. (I won't say which because I half-blame it, unfairly, for killing my phone
(Sorry, I'm still —mourning! the death of my phone I guess.)
The app was an ugly solution, I guess, but it worked. (I couldn't turn the screen off easily, so I set the screen-off to 10 seconds.) And I hadn't used screenshots in a while so that was no big deal; and my ROM could get me to Recovery easily enough, so screw the power button, right?
But then last night, my phone STOPPED CHARGING! I did a batt pull, tried new cords; turned off every useful app. I even went back to stock ROM, which (even though plugged in) left me with 20% batt. Might as well have bricked it, I guess.
Nothing worked. I was able to turn bluetooth back on so I could use my Air Droid acct to get my on-phone pictures, at least (everything else is safe on the SD), and then I charged it overnight in the wall and hoped for the best.
I was pretty thrilled to wake up to 100% charged! —For a few minutes. As soon as I unplugged it, it started discharging fast, and then not even the wall charger stopped it from discharging.
After brooding, for a few hours, I called Verizon tech. The tech (VERY nice, admittedly) said my Dinc2 was just dead. (Damn they're good: he was more sympathetic than a doctor delivering bad news!!) —But I feel so lost. He offered me a DNA or a Dinc 4G (and some motos and crap), but said my Dinc2 wouldn't be worth fixing. He said the power button alone was a PITA, but the dongle thing you plug the charger into was likely the problem, AND it might be the battery. Maybe he said other problems, but ultimately he suggested some pre-owneds he had for sale (I'm trying to keep my unlimited data plan), or try PhoneKarma.com. (He said he didn't recommend eBay, where they have Dinc 2s, but I'm not sure why.)
So ...do Dinc2s just have power issues after (?) 3 years? I guess that's a pretty good lifetime, but boy is it depressing. (I know — hooked on a damned phone. #Sucks.) I mean, it would be stupid to fix this one, or buy another one, right?
@Trebuchette, no matter what machine you use, rechargeable batteries do not last forever. Order a new battery from Amazon or eBay and you should be fine. They're pretty cheap and easy to replace. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Incredible-6350-BTR6350B-Packaging/dp/B0064SI3QA
A case might make your power button easier to press. The OtterBox Defender is an excellent case that you can get for $15 used (very good condition), if a new battery successfully fixes your problem.
Hey: might be worth a shot! I did try another batt, but it was older too. And I didn't think of an otterbox at all, tbh. Thanks! Might be worth a try!
Hey: does it matter much if my USB cable is LG or whatever? I tried several different USBs too, but I'd been using this LG one (no idea how!) for probably about a year.
No, the brand of micro USB cable should not matter. It's a technical standard.
Don't buy a case until you've verified that a new battery actually fixes your problem. If a battery doesn't fix it, it's only a few bucks lost. In that case, I would then get a new phone.
i just came back to this thread after i basically put the project on hold for a while and wanted to see any new suggestions. so after leaving the phone alone for two months, i pluuged the phone in and i saw that orange ligh indicating it was charging. so far so good, im not using it as a primary phone which is good, but that would be my suggestion is to give the phone a rest for a while
EDIT: yeah scratch that, its doing the same **** now
A while back i used to "try" to root stuff. I sucked at it BAD. Anyway, I have a Galaxy Note 8.0 (GT-N5110) that I had rooted to a certain point (very superficial) and I just kept it the way it was, that way I could use Multi-window for any app. This morning I unplug my tab from the charger only to be disappointed that it will not turn on. Ive tried different power outlets, different cables, different base chargers, even the whole "power+vol_up+home" thing... nothing. I never updated the tab when Kitkat came through the pipeline. Im freaking out that a new major update automatically happened overnight or something. Im sorry to trouble you all, but does anyone have suggestions? Since it's rooted I can't take it to Samsung or Best Buy. Honestly if I could just get it back to stock, that would be awesome, but im more concerned about getting it to simply turn on. Any Ideas?
If your device is rooted you won't get an OTA update so that could not be the problem. You can try to unplug battery (mus open the device)"and see what happened. Maybe your battery is faulty or someting else.
K... I appreciate it Ill take a look. But, lets say I actually open it (without making things worse), how do I determine if the battery is in fact faulty? If it is, can I get a replacement? preferably an official samsung one.
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Scratch that. Sry, Im just always scared of doin stuff, so I always feel like I have to ask the question, but I'll look it up. Im confident at least this should be easy enough for me to do Thank you again.
The problem with this device is you cannot pull out the battery easily. Maybe after that steps it boots up again.
Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Wow, that suck. sorry for you man. For now, try to plug the tablet to a computer and while device manager opened and see if there is change. If the change say "qhsusb" or something along that line and not your model number . . . changing battery wont do anything because it's already hard bricked. if not, finger cross.
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What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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No. But sometimes after this step and reconnecting the battery the device boots up. Also a battery calibration is done.
I tried plugging in the tablet to the computer with the old battery and then without any battery. Neither one prompted anything in the device manager. Today I got the new battery (assuming its legit and in good condition) in the mail. I plugged it in, and nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the wall charger, nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the computer while running device manager, nothing.
I'm going assume that the new battery is dead and let it stay connected to the wall charger for 8+ hrs, and see if there are any changes.
I just really don't understand what the deal is and why this would randomly happen. Ive never had problems with the firmware or anything. I have felt like there was an issue with the battery being that it doesn't seem to be keeping much of a charge... but for it to just Hard Brick like this seems so out of the blue. Can anyone provide me with additional suggestions please?
Maybe I'll ask it this way...
Is there any way to test if the batteries are food? That way I can at least determine if the tablet is in fact hard bricked or just bad batteries.
Might not be what you want to hear, but if different cables, chargers and batteries don't work, then maybe there was a power surge overnight while the device was plugged into the wall that took out the device (I once lost a computer that way and now I only use surge suppressors (note that not all power bars are proper surge protectors! See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector ) that are UL 1449 certified with a low clamping voltage and high energy absorption rating as a minimum; the fancier ones can even tell you if your wall outlet has a grounding problem). Or your tablet's USB port is broken, but that doesn't make sense based on what you've said thus far. Or you're just super-unlucky and all of your replacement parts are also faulty (it could happen). Either way, I've got my fingers crossed for you!
In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-use-a-multimeter
rtiangha said:
In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
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Ill definitely be looking into this option in depth tomorrow, and deeply appreciate it. At least it's something. T_T I don't want my tablet going to electro grave. This sucks so bad. This has been a month from hell
First my printer decides its time to start printing crooked over a couple of months, getting so bad that it jams up a few weeks ago, requiring me to get a new printer, which has been a fiasco in and of itself that still hasnt been resolved. Ive gone through 4 printers in one week, all of them different model printers, all from HP, and each and every one of them defective.
Then my laptops video card tweaks out because of installing Splashtop Stream, which starts a domino effect requiring me to do a factory reset on the laptop.
Then my Tablet just decides to kill over.
Then my Microsoft Arc mouse decides it doesn't the want to wheel to work requiring me to purchase a new one, and when I receive it, the cover for the battery compartment is missing and the wheel click is defective. It took 2 and a half weeks to resolve
Then I get bronchitis.
all in less than a month.
Alright, ya... it's dead. Oh well. Here's me trying to make the most of it: are there any places that buy bricked tabs? I figure the parts have to have some sort of salvage value.... maybe.
You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
Sent from my GT-N5100 using XDA Free mobile app
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O_O That does suck!! Sry man.
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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I randomly bumped here and I'm no expert, but if your tablet's motherboard is indeed dead, I believe there is absolutely no way they can tell that the device got rooted at some point. You did not "hard brick" it, that's a whole other thing, or at least so I've learned in my not-very-long experience. "Hard brick" should be the result of flashing a kernel made some other device, which definitely is not your case. Moreover, that does not kill the motherboard, it just makes anything unbootable: it's a software problem, so it can actually be detected. You had a hardware failure that most likely completely wiped any proof that you have ever modified your device, so the only problem that you might have, I think, is them telling you that they take no responsibility for what your power outlet has done to the device, but they shouldn't be able to detect any modification that you have made. In my opinion technical support is worth trying.
Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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You're welcome, good luck!
Just thought Id let everyone know that I managed to get Samsung to compromise on the matter since the Tablet is only 5 months past warranty (1yr 5mnths since purchase). So, not much longer and hopefully Ill have a tablet that works yet again.