hi, I didnt find anything about swapping the nand chip from one phone to another so i was wondering if this is possible since my girlfriends phone is broken and contains over 700 pic and videos and she has no backups. im pretty sure the mobo is fried as the charger light will no longer come on and phone will never attempt to boot. there is a guy on craigslist with the same phone( droid incredibe) with cracked screen for cheap. i could swap out parts and make one good phone but would like to swap nand as well as the screen. does anyone know if this is possible without having to flash the nand chip or lose any data? or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
1) It would be helpful to describe what is broken and/or how it happened. Did it malfunction during a backup, bootloop, etc.
(not assuming anything but just saying)
2) If it's a battery issue have you tried using another battery to at least transfer files to a computer?
3) Have you tried using another usb cable in the event your cable gave out?
That would be VERY difficult, if not impossible. That component is not socketed in like you'd expect to see in a computer. Everything is soldered to the board and the chips typically use a ball grid array connector. Installing it on another system board would be nigh impossible without the soldering paste used in manufacturing. I wish I had a better answer for you. Even if I tried to do it with things around the house, I think I'd destroy the chip and the working system board in the process. You'd need a fairly precise oven.
Sorry snoop, tried all that. Different battery, wire etc. I have 2 of them so I did swap stuff around. And I should have said what happened to it. It got stepped on and bent a little. The mobo got cracked.
Loonatic, thank you. That is some good information as I didn't know how it was attached. I am pretty good at fixing things but that sounds difficult.
Thank you both for trying to help or provide some insight.
The memory chip is Pretty much garbage if I can't get it off of the motherboard so I guess it wouldn't be a loss if I broke it. I might give it a shot
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It's cool, ironically enough once I read loonatik's response I realized this was way over my head.
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Hi all. In need of a bit of advice here. Hope this is in the right forum.
My beloved DHD has suffered from one too many falls. Despite being protected in an Otterbox Commuter case, he now lies on his deathbed. Even though I was considering an upgrade, I'm thinking I might want to stretch out his life for as long as possible instead. So I've come here to ask for repair advice.
- The phone seems structurally sound from the outside, no damage besides minor aesthetic scratches from before the phone was protected by the Otterbox.
- It appears to boot. Makes the vibration noise etc. Heck the alarm even went off the other morning, at the set time of 0630.
- Screen does not function at all. Lifeless. But not broken in any way externally. Because of this, had to pull the battery to shut the alarm off.
- When plugged in to charge, charging light indicator does not illuminate.
Any ideas?
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Cheers, although I'm gonna try a different approach for now.
Any ideas? Can anyone point me in the right direction of some advice?
Sounds like 2 things. Broken lcd and a broken charging port. It wouldn't be worth repairing. You could buy one second hand on ebay for aboot £120.
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Thanks for that. Considering trying to sell it broken, for parts. Only thing that concerns me is any sensitive data that may be readily accessed by someone who knows how to get to it.
Is there a way to wipe it?
You could use another dhd with the same firmware and copy the key/button presses and reset it in bootloader mode.
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Could also be that the connector for the screen has been dislodged due to being drop to many times you mite try opening it up and see if it is that.
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Could also be that the connector for the screen has been dislodged due to being drop to many times you mite try opening it up and see if it is that.
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Hi, thanks for the response. So I assume you're referring to this part here?
http://www.parts4repair.com/htc-desire-hd-lcd-screen-fpc-connector/
Seen in this disassembly video from the 3:05 minute mark?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfatoeWbMRk
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I have a problem similar to yours. But in my case, I'd turned the phone off to go to the cinema and the LCD and touch never turned on again.
In order to erase your data, did you try overwriting a stock rom? (In case it's just the charging LED that is broken)
That sucks! Self detonating phone. Does yours still vibrate and 'turn on'?
Haven't actually managed to clear the data. I'm ordering this part here (http://www.parts4repair.com/htc-desire-hd-lcd-screen-fpc-connector/) and I'm going to attempt to pull it apart and fix it.
If I can get it to work again I'll sell the One V I'm using and go back to the old faithful!
Well this saves me from starting a new thread haha
Anyway i am having the exact same problem as you have.
My dad brought home a Desire HD from work wich was not working so i am trying to fix it.
The phone boots, it vibrates ones and after a minute it makes the boot sound.
But nothing responses and the lights wont turn on.
Also no charging light..
Also it does not charge but usb does connect.
Could this be the FPC connector or the screen?
Hmmm...interesting, exact same issue as mine.
Well, I've ordered the FPC connector replacement part I linked above...going to attempt to play around with it when it arrives and see if I can breathe new life into the phone. So I can tell you how that goes...
Although:
1. Would the charging light and screen problem be connected? Is this feasible? Or does it suggest something else is likely shot?
2. I believe the FPC connector requires a solder to replace. This could be a bit ambitious on my part to attempt to repair...any ideas on what sort of a solder would be suitable?
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Hmmm...interesting, exact same issue as mine.
Well, I've ordered the FPC connector replacement part I linked above...going to attempt to play around with it when it arrives and see if I can breathe new life into the phone. So I can tell you how that goes...
Although:
1. Would the charging light and screen problem be connected? Is this feasible? Or does it suggest something else is likely shot?
2. I believe the FPC connector requires a solder to replace. This could be a bit ambitious on my part to attempt to repair...any ideas on what sort of a solder would be suitable?
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no clean flux core solder would work best, preferably something very thin (about .015"). A small bottle of noclean flux would also help and you probably will need lead free solder as that is likely what they used on the board to begin with, and lead and leadfree dont typically mix as well.
Thanks for the quick reply...
Something like this?
http://www.oritech.com.au/productDetail.aspx?productID=23244
What sort of iron would be suited? Would any of these suit?
http://www.oritech.com.au/categories.aspx?categoryID=321
Would you say it'd be a difficult process? I've soldered before, but a that was a while ago in high school...
Also the cost of all this equipment will far outweigh the cost of the $3 FPC connector spare!
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Thanks for the quick reply...
Something like this?
http://www.oritech.com.au/productDetail.aspx?productID=23244
What sort of iron would be suited? Would any of these suit?
http://www.oritech.com.au/categories.aspx?categoryID=321
Would you say it'd be a difficult process? I've soldered before, but a that was a while ago in high school...
Also the cost of all this equipment will far outweigh the cost of the $3 FPC connector spare!
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yes, those should both work fine. ya it is costly for equipment. i have a edsyn iron i use at home and solder i get from work. i would say it can be tricky, i havent seen the connector but im sure its similar to other inline ribbon connectors. remember, short burst soldering, heating it for too long will take the pad off the pcb, and repairing THAT can become very difficult.
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Hmmm...interesting, exact same issue as mine.
Well, I've ordered the FPC connector replacement part I linked above...going to attempt to play around with it when it arrives and see if I can breathe new life into the phone. So I can tell you how that goes...
Although:
1. Would the charging light and screen problem be connected? Is this feasible? Or does it suggest something else is likely shot?
2. I believe the FPC connector requires a solder to replace. This could be a bit ambitious on my part to attempt to repair...any ideas on what sort of a solder would be suitable?
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Thanks. We have a spare DHD with broken glass here wich my sister is using unter her SGS is back from repair. Will swap the motherboard when her phone is back.
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Hi everybody,
(TL;DR at the bottom)
I would like to know what your experiences are with the following scenario:
I dropped my phone in a pond, left it to dry, did the rice thing, waited a whopping two weeks, very lightly scrubbed the reachable electrical contacts with a small tool to clean off dirt (did not cause damage to the connectors).
What I'm seeing now is quite strange:
Everything works, down to the compass, the gyro-stuff (I know, not a gyro but you get my drift), touchscreen, lighting, wifi, bluetooth, gps, the battery, the microSD card, basically everything you'd expect to break is working like a charm... except for the recognition of a SIM card. I can type the special commands in the dialer to obtain the test menu (and in doing so, using logcat, seeing no errors whatsoever while testing it, other than 'no sim card detected'), the phone still reports the same IMEI number, etc. It just says no SIM-card.
I tried to clean it up real nice on the inside (not the in-inside but the visible parts when you remove the antenna cover and battery cover) and saw no visible water damage even though it was completely submerged for well above 3 seconds. There was no visible residue as a typical drying process would normally show. I used a clean cloth and a host of very small tools to make sure I could clean all the small contacts and such. Remember, the SIM-card issue existed before the semi-more-than-thorough cleaning too.
I then proceeded to flash a new ROM, full wipe et al, formatted the sdcard just to be sure, I basically redid it as if someone would ask me to do it for them: in the most clean and surefire way possible. (no forgetting to full wipe, etc). I retested everything but came up with the very same issue. So I'm pretty sure it is hardware-related, I'm just not sure in which way.
Is it possible that I am looking at a physical deformation of some contacts which make the card 'not connected' when inserted? I saw a post in the forums about someone having the same issue, stating it was deemed to be the SIM slot being enlarged which was fixed using a small piece of paper, but I want to know if anybody has any experience with this kind of thing or happened to have come across the same situation.
For those of you with fewer time (aka TL;DR): phone dropped in water, dried it, cleaned it, booted it, all works except sim card detection, is that likely to be hw issue and if so any ideas?
Many thanks in advance for your opinions on this matter,
sstm
Have you already gotten a new sim card to try?
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Have you already gotten a new sim card to try?
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Seems to me that on a DHD there is an actual gap in the simcard cover & its the most likely place for water to enter the workings its extremely likely that the sim contacts were shorted & caused hardware damage.
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Have you already gotten a new sim card to try?
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Hi,
Yes, I forgot to mention that. I have tried with SIM-cards that work in other phones. None get detected.
Kind regards,
sstm
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Seems to me that on a DHD there is an actual gap in the simcard cover & its the most likely place for water to enter the workings its extremely likely that the sim contacts were shorted & caused hardware damage.
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When you say that the SIM contacts were shorted, can you tell me if there would be a solution for that, other than turning it in for repairs?
If the only thing I can do is turn it in for repairs I should change my question:
How much will this cost me? (on average) Am I looking at 50$ or more like 100$ or even more?
Kind regards,
sstm
Without a circuit diagram i would just be guessing which parts would need replacing & repairers will likely immediately turn away fluid damage as a non starter.
I think the phone is most likely not going to be financially viable as I'm fairly sure next stop after the sim holder is the mainboard.
Hi Pat,
Thanks for your reply, unfortunately for me, I believe it is in the line of what I was thinking too
Would it be a good idea to sell it for parts? Or maybe to sell the parts separately?
I never did that, but I'd like to at least get some money for this device, even if it isn't that much
Kind regards,
sstm
Well its a coincidence because i have a mother of 84yrs who has an old Nokia & no computer. She doesn't want a complex phone & likes her old Nokia push button phone but it has no sd memory.
But she asked me about a camera that she could take family pics & video & digitally store them. Something like your phone might be ideal.
A new main board is about $50. You could try replacing it yourself or have a reputable company replace it for you for about an additional $100 dollars maybe. Not sure exactly what someone will charge.
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Here's the part you need on eBay.
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=270946674338
It's a very easy repair. I had the same problem your experiencing about 18 months ago. I repaired it myself and my phone is still working fine. Just be careful not to damage the volume flex cable (part of the main board) when you take the back housing off. Also, when you remove the damaged sim/sd tray you have to pull forcefully (but carefully) as it is lightly glued on.
Don't be daunted, it really is an easy repair.
Good luck.
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Hi all,
the wife's HOX died suddenly, won't turn on at all, wont recoginse being plugged in into either the wall or the PC, no lights, nothing.
Unfortunately she has taken a number of pictures of our 5 month year old son on it, which obviously we would like to have back!
I'm competent with taking the phone apart and putting it back togther, however what I want to know is how the Samsung Flash chip is connected to the mainboard.
I can see black glue around the outside of it, but I am unsure if the underlying pins are also soldered down.
My intention was to razor blade the glue away and then buy a knackered (but working) HOX and transfer the chips over.
Obviously I wouldnt be able to do this if the chip is soldered down. I have monkey hands when it comes to soldering things.
Is anyone able to offer any insight?
I've had a google and read the datasheet for the specific chip, but it says nothing about how it is connected.
Thanks in advance.
ucof said:
Hi all,
the wife's HOX died suddenly, won't turn on at all, wont recoginse being plugged in into either the wall or the PC, no lights, nothing.
Unfortunately she has taken a number of pictures of our 5 month year old son on it, which obviously we would like to have back!
I'm competent with taking the phone apart and putting it back togther, however what I want to know is how the Samsung Flash chip is connected to the mainboard.
I can see black glue around the outside of it, but I am unsure if the underlying pins are also soldered down.
My intention was to razor blade the glue away and then buy a knackered (but working) HOX and transfer the chips over.
Obviously I wouldnt be able to do this if the chip is soldered down. I have monkey hands when it comes to soldering things.
Is anyone able to offer any insight?
I've had a google and read the datasheet for the specific chip, but it says nothing about how it is connected.
Thanks in advance.
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I really can't see this being successful, sorry. I'm fairly sure the chip is soldered down, and the chances of damaging the chip are very, very high if you want to try and get it off.
If the phone didn't come into contact with water a JTAG recovery might be possible. It may not get the phone working again but it could get your data back. Alternatively companies like DriveSavers have an excellent reputation for getting data off flash chips, but it'll cost you in the region of $400 - $1400 (I got a quote a month or so back, when I thought my HOX was finished.)
I really wouldn't recommend trying to remove the chip though. You could do irreparable damage to the chip, which would render it completely unreadable.
ucof said:
Hi all,
the wife's HOX died suddenly, won't turn on at all, wont recoginse being plugged in into either the wall or the PC, no lights, nothing.
Unfortunately she has taken a number of pictures of our 5 month year old son on it, which obviously we would like to have back!
I'm competent with taking the phone apart and putting it back togther, however what I want to know is how the Samsung Flash chip is connected to the mainboard.
I can see black glue around the outside of it, but I am unsure if the underlying pins are also soldered down.
My intention was to razor blade the glue away and then buy a knackered (but working) HOX and transfer the chips over.
Obviously I wouldnt be able to do this if the chip is soldered down. I have monkey hands when it comes to soldering things.
Is anyone able to offer any insight?
I've had a google and read the datasheet for the specific chip, but it says nothing about how it is connected.
Thanks in advance.
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Try first change the battery to see if the phone will start again it is the cheap way and most secure
de4life - thanks, I've had a quote for data recovery from Kroll. They want £95+ to look at it and provide a list of what can be recovered and then between £195 and £395 for actually recovering it for me. Far too expensive!
As for JTAG, there's been no water damage whatsoever; I've had a quick Google and it says this is more for Routers. How could I do it to my phone? Im not fussed about getting the phone working again, just want the contents of the flash storage back.
Thant - alas, the was the first thing I tried. New battery has made no difference. Which is annoying as her old Desire Z showed the same symptoms, we bought a new battery and its works again. She's currently using that until we decide what to do.
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de4life - thanks, I've had a quote for data recovery from Kroll. They want £95+ to look at it and provide a list of what can be recovered and then between £195 and £395 for actually recovering it for me. Far too expensive!
As for JTAG, there's been no water damage whatsoever; I've had a quick Google and it says this is more for Routers. How could I do it to my phone? Im not fussed about getting the phone working again, just want the contents of the flash storage back.
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First thing's first, if you do go down the data recovery route try to avoid companies that charge any type of analysis fee. Kroll are a well known company but I've not heard much good things about them. I went through an extensive search of companies when I thought I'd killed my HOX and found DriveSavers were the best in terms of reputation, and they don't charge a fee to look at the phone. They are very expensive though, perhaps more so than Kroll, and you have to send the phone to the States which is daunting and costly in of itself (I assume from your £ quotation that you're UK based?).
It's good that there's no water damage. It's difficult to say what can cause the motherboard to suddenly stop working like that, but it's unlikely there has been a serious short circuit that could have affected the memory chip. Have you tried dissembling the phone completely and putting it back together? It may sound ridiculous to even try it, but when one of my older phones suddenly died I managed to get it working by taking it apart and then just putting it back together again. There are a lot of connections within the HOX motherboard framework that could easily have come loose. You might already have done this, but just a thought.
In terms of JTAG, it can be done on mobile phone motherboards with the right equipment. It's usually used for soft bricked phones to reset the software back to its original form if it's been corrupted, but I have seen cases where hard bricked phones were brought back to life using this method, including the HOX. It's not really something you can do at home (not cheaply, anyway) but there are companies that provide this service. One of the more popular services is here: http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/htc-one-x-jtag-brick-repair/ - I believe they post on here from time to time as well. Again, based in the States, but significantly cheaper than data recovery and as far as I've heard very professional. I don't know of any mobile phone JTAG services in the UK, though they probably do exist.
Keep in mind the data chip on your phone is likely fine. Even if the motherboard has stopped working, the memory chip itself is unlikely to be affected and will still contain all of your data - albeit in a scrambled form. If you send it out to companies then they can potentially damage the chip beyond repair, if you go down the route of sending the phone out to repair/data recovery companies I would urge extreme caution. If it's still on the chip the data itself isn't going anywhere. Take your time and make sure you're sending your phone to the right people, because one false move and your data is gone for good.
Hello to anyone reading this,
This crack in the board happened after it went through the clothes washer, and it was gf's phone so i feel really horrible about it :crying:.
Anyways i have yet to even find out what this piece of the board is named. It's cracked in two places on the vertical part of the board that leads down
to where the usb connector is located (everything else appears looks ok just these two cracked pieces). I'm just looking for any help at all, hoping
someone might be able to offer any help at all, or if it's even possible to salvage. I have an uncle that is got a good amount of experience in
soldering/electrical stuff and can handle the soldering/fixing since im still a bit of a noob, but he was unsure about how to go about it since it would
require some very small wires to fix the connection traces, so if anyone can offer any advice or instruction on mending i would greatly appreciate and
can send some BTC for your help. I attached 2 images, and can supply more if you need more detail.
So far the only thing i can think of is to get a broken board and remove the part i need at the easiest location it could be re-attached... no clue if that easier area exists though..
Why not just bring the phone to some phone repair shop (or a samsung specialized one), if available in your region. They should be able to repair it (if the price is ok with you), or be able to sell you the part you need (order it).
**It looks like even some chip is chopped... at the very least, probably too much water damage on them. You don't want to do this repair by yourself (or you uncle)... there are cases of phone components getting too hot and on fire if there are faulty wires/connectors.
****Definitely a new board is required.
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Why not just bring the phone to some phone repair shop (or a samsung specialized one), if available in your region. They should be able to repair it (if the price is ok with you), or be able to sell you the part you need (order it).
**It looks like even some chip is chopped... at the very least, probably too much water damage on them. You don't want to do this repair by yourself (or you uncle)... there are cases of phone components getting too hot and on fire if there are faulty wires/connectors.
****Definitely a new board is required.
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Yeah seems like a new board might be the only solution..
can anyone tell me what exactly would be compatible? This was a verizon note 2 sch-i605 gt-n7100 rev 1.0.
Thanks all
Hey folks. Thanx for reading this. I have a LG G3; I use a PODFOB CASE with it;
When few days ago I came to my gym, and was ready to get out of my car. the phone was already hanging around my neck; I lost my footing and busted my ass face first. The phone was around my neck at the time. Obviously the phone smacked the ground also. So did my chin
But now the screen is busted and I want to make a copy off my old phone and place this backup on to my new LG G3 (I already got a new one)
But how?? The only remedy I found, to get anything off the phone is by connecting an OTG cable to the phone and any USB mouse to the other end. The broken screen has a cursor light up; you can do anything now...
But, my issue is: since I never rooted the phone I don't know what app to install to take a "snapshot" of my OLD LG. I want to copy customizations I have on here over to my new phone. Not the settings, but anything that is possible to transfer...
So my question is: is there anyways I can get root without of plugging the phone anywhere??
Why I need root, because I believe there are programs out there that can MIRROR my old phone to this new one; but I need to have this ROOT...
Are there any ways to get root by NOT plugging your phone up with your computer??
Or, if there is none, is there another adapter I can buy that will split this USB plug on the phone?? OTG is already taking this plug up.
I can't be the first person to bust my screen...What do people do in this situation?? Thank You folks
I don't have an answer to your questions re: root, software, and all of that; sorry. Maybe someone else will though.
But how handy are you? Would you be confident enough in your skills to take the new phone apart and swap motherboards? I've taken my phone apart many times - for parts exploration, thermal paste mod, etc - and it isn't difficult to do. It's 13 screws, remove back panel(s), unplug 4 ribbon cables, and pull the motherboard out. There are tutorials and youtube videos floating around out there to guide you through it. Like this one...follow the video up through step 5: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/LG+G3+Teardown/42288
Maybe someone out there has an easier way so hang tight for a better solution and consider a motherboard swap as your last resort. But if you do it - be extra careful so you don't end up with 2 busted phones in the end. It's up to you to decide if the risk is worth the reward.
Good luck with everything
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I don't have an answer to your questions re: root, software, and all of that; sorry. Maybe someone else will though.
But how handy are you? Would you be confident enough in your skills to take the new phone apart and swap motherboards? I've taken my phone apart many times - for parts exploration, thermal paste mod, etc - and it isn't difficult to do. It's 13 screws, remove back panel(s), unplug 4 ribbon cables, and pull the motherboard out. There are tutorials and youtube videos floating around out there to guide you through it. Like this one...follow the video up through step 5: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/LG+G3+Teardown/42288
Maybe someone out there has an easier way so hang tight for a better solution and consider a motherboard swap as your last resort. But if you do it - be extra careful so you don't end up with 2 busted phones in the end. It's up to you to decide if the risk is worth the reward.
Good luck with everything
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Hanging in there...lol
I can't take the phone apart
Thank You