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How good is developer support on LG devices?

Hey everyone I'm thinking of getting the LG Optimus G when it releases but the reason I'm not 100% sure yet due to their lack of updates.
So I was wondering how good is the developer community at rooting, creating ROMs, etc for past LG devices? Does LG give enough documentation to help developers or have developers been doing a pretty decent job in general?
I know this is a vague question, was just hoping someone with past LG experiences could shed some light. Thanks.

clozecall said:
Hey everyone I'm thinking of getting the LG Optimus G when it releases but the reason I'm not 100% sure yet due to their lack of updates.
So I was wondering how good is the developer community at rooting, creating ROMs, etc for past LG devices? Does LG give enough documentation to help developers or have developers been doing a pretty decent job in general?
I know this is a vague question, was just hoping someone with past LG experiences could shed some light. Thanks.
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Based on how they treated my g2x... I wouldnt buy any phone by them ever again.
And even though they got a nexus line coming out at the end of the month... Im just gonna wait for one of the other 4 before I bite. LG can bite me.

If its like the 4xhd bad, 4xhd had locked boot loader and has never been unlocked
So if you want a device for development this will probably be a no go.

explosivequack said:
If its like the 4xhd bad, 4xhd had locked boot loader and has never been unlocked
So if you want a device for development this will probably be a no go.
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How big was the development community for the 4xhd?
I know there have been a number of "challenging" bootloaders that have been defeated.
In the off chance the Optimus G is a big enough hit, there is a good chance locked bootloaders will be overcome.

This seems like it will be a popular device, so a lot of dev support. If I get one in December I will do some custom romsfor the phone.
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Snow_fox said:
How big was the development community for the 4xhd?
I know there have been a number of "challenging" bootloaders that have been defeated.
In the off chance the Optimus G is a big enough hit, there is a good chance locked bootloaders will be overcome.
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4xhd doesn't have one rom, its rooted and has cwm but no kernels or roms. Its sad really hopefully this isn't like it or it'll be a bummer

I'm hoping for some good news on the bootloader and rooting for this phone.
I'm going to wait a while and see what happens before I upgrade. If it's locked up tight, I'll be disappointed, and buy something else.
If CWM and CM10 are "quickly" in the works...
Hmm... The Korean model has been rooted. I'm crossing my fingers.

I already pre ordered mine with sprint. I'm hoping to run aosp asap

I have my fingers crossed as well.
I think the LG Optimus G has the specs and pricing to warrant a big community, although I do have to say that LG could have made more hype about it. With the SGs3 and the HOX, people are extremely interested in it, even though the US versions bring very little new to the table. Developers flocked to the devices and now you've got a humongous community.
Also, I think this is a flagship phone for the US, until the HOX+ and the new nexus devices are released, and even then it'll still be a great contender (to the HOX+ at least, not sure what the new Nexus' will bring). It's got a lot of things going it's way for a large community...

Maybe contact LG Mobile to make it unlockable for the phone to sell more and become developer friendly...
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I have feeling that the LG Optimus G will be plagued with a locked bootloader. Part of LG's strategies. "If you want a more dev friendly phone, then buy our new LG Nexus 4!"

well, LG Optimus one has very good developer support http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=836 .

ashirviskas said:
well, LG Optimus one has very good developer support http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=836 .
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I don't think I would consider that very good, the One X+ or the GS3 are much better options to be honest. The Note 2 would be the best, but it also looks like the new nexus is coming as well.
Personally I would go with a one X or GS3 and save some cash.

Cyanogen mod doesn't support htc devices so I wouldn't go there.
*if* the optimus g gets unlocked bootloaders then we may see amazing dev support.
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Snow_fox said:
Cyanogen mod doesn't support htc devices so I wouldn't go there.
*if* the optimus g gets unlocked bootloaders then we may see amazing dev support.
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Cm does. All of the one series is supported. Cyanogen himself was primarily an HTC dev until samsung hired him.
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Very grateful to you all news, I want to I can have a lot of help, are looking forward to your update! Again

xboxfanj said:
Cm does. All of the one series is supported. Cyanogen himself was primarily an HTC dev until samsung hired him.
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My mistake then, I incorrectly read somewhere that Cyanogen support had been dropped for HTC devices due to the trouble with sources and such.

Snow_fox said:
My mistake then, I incorrectly read somewhere that Cyanogen support had been dropped for HTC devices due to the trouble with sources and such.
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That has happened partially for the Exynos Galaxy S III devices. They have broken source code for the HW acceleration driver, so codeworkx and entropy512 may abandon it.
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xboxfanj said:
Cm does. All of the one series is supported. Cyanogen himself was primarily an HTC dev until samsung hired him.
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Don't forget about the OG EVO

When to expect Paranoid Android on the Note 2?

Strangely i didn't found people asking about that while searching on google...

Soon enough
Imilka has signed up for Note 2 dev list so we can expect a PA
Atleast i can say it WILL come. :good:

As ParanoidAndroid is based on cyanogenmod afaik, i`am afraid it still will take a while mate

Like... Months..?
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kojinmalia said:
Like... Months..?
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It depends on Samsung, they have to publish the scource codes of the kernel and other hardware components or CM cannot go ahed and start coding.

gee2012 said:
It depends on Samsung, they have to publish the scource codes of the kernel and other hardware components or CM cannot go ahed and start coding.
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They have posted. But the people in the US can't get a note 2 in their hands until November. That's the troubke
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argh,
really, if paranoid (or at least cm10/11) won't be available soon, that will make me buy these LG Nexus or whatever else Google may show us

Right now, there are no official porters for CM10 for the galaxy note.
Samsung, by not releasing exynos/framework documentation, basically has made it too difficult to develop CM10 for it.
The Note 1 developers basically got fed up and quit until Samsung makes it more practical.
So no CM10 means no PA.
We can hope that a new developer takes the reigns, but as the other poster said: we're in for a long wait.
- Frank

edwinpang said:
They have posted. But the people in the US can't get a note 2 in their hands until November. That's the troubke
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Posted what? Where?

ipguy said:
Posted what? Where?
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http://www.google.com.hk/search?client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&q=note+2+source
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ChodTheWacko said:
Right now, there are no official porters for CM10 for the galaxy note.
Samsung, by not releasing exynos/framework documentation, basically has made it too difficult to develop CM10 for it.
The Note 1 developers basically got fed up and quit until Samsung makes it more practical.
So no CM10 means no PA.
We can hope that a new developer takes the reigns, but as the other poster said: we're in for a long wait.
- Frank
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We have no official CM porters? since when are porters official its either original CM or ported CM
Anyways , atleast im more than 100% sure we WILL get ported cyanogen mod, and most probably PA too.
now ive used ported CM 10 on around 3 of other devices, and take my word if you havent tried it yet, a port totally depends on which device CM it is ported from. E.g. If we get ported cm 10, it will atleast be as much performing as CM 10 on S 3, whose hardware is resembling, because the porters will take as much help as they can from CM10 of S3...
And if CM10 may be ported, why not PA? its not like first CM has to be ported in order to port a PA second

Thats kernel source, not hardware sources, they are two separate things the CM team need both to make a fully working CM rom for this device (and any other modern Samsung device)

jelly bean 4.3???

I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/

bluntdude24 said:
I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/
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u heard it right they have rolled out Jb Android 4.3 (JWR66V) for nexus 4 and other for nexus 7,10 etc
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
so as far samsung is concerned it will take atleast 3 months from now if we are lucky or maybe even end of this year but yes the good news is that samsung has confirmed the 4.3 update for note2 but have not commented anything on the release date yet

There are already many many threads for same subject and I think they will be adding up
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There is an update and other devices thread in the stickies.
Instead of making a dozen threads just post in that thread.
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All we know is Q4 2013
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Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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How come nexus devices get updates 1st?

Sandata said:
How come nexus devices get updates 1st?
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Because Nexus devices are devices that are made by Google's standards and android is developed for this devices by Google themselves. Then with the android source code (AOSP) manufacturers such as Samsung, HTC, Sony etc etc. are free to make their own rom for it, this is why it will always follow later, especially 'cause they have to make sure it is completely bugfree. Next to the big manufacturers we have ofcourse developers like CyanogenMod team and other good developers (i.e. from XDA!) who provide us from great roms too, and some even better than the stock samsung roms.

salmonsushi said:
Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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Will people stop talking about the s4 sales. They just posted they made over 6.6 billion which is up from last year.
So they didn't sell as many as they wanted. Well the s3 is still an awesome phone so why would everyone just to an s4
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My cat has more intelligence than the people who keep starting these threads. How they scrape up the IQ to actually purchase a mobile phone in the first place amazes me.

Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.

Frunobulax said:
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol.now I got to know the reason behind delay in update from samsung
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Frunobulax said:
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol. Just expect a tweet from samsung of 4.3 cery soon" coming shortly.
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i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3

UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.

UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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no, I want official, please give official 4.3 for note2, please, I want it please
(hope this will stop a new thread, lets pray)
via Note 2

UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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Make a topic mate
FloatingFatMan said:
"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.
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No, TW compared to CM actually is crap. CM S Pen Add-on, Note Buddy and Papyrus and S Pen features (incl. Pulling in or out detection) work perfectly.

definitely by the time samsung releases official 4.3 there will be 4 to 5 more threads on the same topic for sure

By the time Sammy is almost ready to release 4.3, Key Lime Pie 5.0 will be out and they will then decide to skip 4.3 for Note II and go directly to 5.0.

I am having issues building cm.
I just know how to initiate a build , I don't know how to fix because I don't know any programming language.
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Is 4.3 on the G pad?

Sorry if this an obvious question, but I'd really like to know if I'd have to root/unlock it to flash some more recent Android version.
Speaking of which, how difficult is it to flash/unroot?

At least put an effort into researching.
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No there are no roms for this tablet at this time.
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Lmao post with no answer.. put some effort its just 2-3 keys "no" then "yes" WOOT!
No man not yet. They do have plans to.

It's true that the answer is a simple no. But I had to learn the hard way when I first jumped into this site a few years ago that people do not like to be asked questions that are easy to answer. You don't even have to look on this website. Simply look at the spec sheet on LG's website and you will see that it comes with 4.2 .2. There is already a rootkit out for the device but no roms at this time. I honestly don't think you need a newer version at this time. 4.2 .2 jelly bean does everything you need in my opinion. Otherwise get a Nexus device. I have a Nexus 4 running Kit Kat Paranoid Android and Franco kernel and I couldn't be happier. But when it comes to my tablet I just wanted for basic consumption and a stock Android is perfectly fine. Just my opinion.
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Bipedial said:
Sorry if this an obvious question, but I'd really like to know if I'd have to root/unlock it to flash some more recent Android version.
Speaking of which, how difficult is it to flash/unroot?
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What is it that you are going to gain from updating to 4.3? The bigger number? There is a lot more that can be improved in the ROM than going to 4.3
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would like Android 4.3 or later to enable opengl es 3.0 support for games. Hopefully lg comes out with an update soon.

i would like to see cyanogen mod 11 or pac rom much more than official updates of LG

p3dboard said:
would like Android 4.3 or later to enable opengl es 3.0 support for games. Hopefully lg comes out with an update soon.
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Check development section CM11 based rom posted
katsika said:
i would like to see cyanogen mod 11 or pac rom much more than official updates of LG
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[Q] When can we expect mainstream customROMs?

Now that all G3s can be bootloader unlocked via Bump!! When do you guys think ROMS like PA, Vanir, AOKP and an official release of CM be available to us?
More info about bump > http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...mp-unlock-lg-g3-twrp-d852-d852g-f400-t2900614

Lmao. Dude you do realize our boot loader was never locked. Good luck waiting. I think most devs are turned off to this phone.
g3 soon to be NOTE 4

Tmos was always unlocked, but we're not much to the entire development community. With all variants unlocked, devs have more of an incentive to make roms. Plain and simple.
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Raphael17 said:
Now that all G3s can be bootloader unlocked via Bump!! When do you guys think ROMS like PA, Vanir, AOKP and an official release of CM be available to us?
More info about bump > http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...mp-unlock-lg-g3-twrp-d852-d852g-f400-t2900614
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Be patient grasshopper now that the bootloader is unlocked it could be any day now for new rom releases

I'm thinking some developers might not want to mess with KitKat when Andorid L is coming out.

Or they are jumping ship
g3 soon to be NOTE 4

BACARDILIMON said:
Or they are jumping ship
g3 soon to be NOTE 4
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To what? That ****astic note 4 with that dumpster fire of a UI? This phone will see development pick up. Most of the community is waiting on the new nexus line to be released.

whodatfan said:
To what? That ****astic note 4 with that dumpster fire of a UI? This phone will see development pick up. Most of the community is waiting on the new nexus line to be released.
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Yeah either the note 4 or nexus due out very soon. It sure beats anything this phone came out of the box with
g3 soon to be NOTE 4

BACARDILIMON said:
Yeah either the note 4 or nexus due out very soon. It sure beats anything this phone came out of the box with
g3 soon to be NOTE 4
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Speak for yourself. I absolutely love what this phone came out of the box with. I think development will pick up, I sure hope it does anyway.
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Harmtan2 said:
Speak for yourself. I absolutely love what this phone came out of the box with. I think development will pick up, I sure hope it does anyway.
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Development will pick up but it will be slow because this phone will birth more stars than it attracts.

ThePagel said:
Development will pick up but it will be slow because this phone will birth more stars than it attracts.
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The only LG phone I seen with plenty of development wast the LG Nexus 4 and LG Nexus 5 and those werent really full LG projects.
The phones with the most development are usually the HTC / Samsung / Nexus devices.
I knew that when I purchased the G3 but this phone is now going to my phone and il be on Note 4.
The best thing to hit this G3 was Auto Prime HotSpot Tethering hack. Something I hope comes to the Note 4.

I like trying new roms but I'm so happy with this phone that I'm content with Zone, tweaksbox, and xposed.
I love the functions out of the box... Plus 32gb, awesomeness. I'll most likely pick up the g4 as my next phone. Nexus 6 looks tempting but that would be just to play with and use every now and then. I'm almost positive that the camera app won't be nearly as good as the G3.

Luckily they are out right now! Woot woot

New rooms every day out seems, but the cm based ones still have camera and bt issues not for long I suppose!
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Were still on beta's with missing features, I'd say hopefully within the new year we'll have full functionally custom roms.