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First off I wanna ask what happened to the survey on the best rom? It was a pretty useful thread for people to check on to find out what rom would be best for their needs. Was that thread causing any conflict?
Now to my real question :
What can you guys suggest as the BEST Rom, Application or Tweak for improving SGY's battery life? I mean, at least sacrificing the LEAST amount of performance.
I just downloaded and installed a new rom, but the problem is (although its very nice, fast and all), it sucks out my battery so bad that its not even worth sacrificing battery for performance.
Can you guys give me something like -
What Rom, Apps (Battery Saver), Launcher, Widgets, Tweaks, etc, you are using and by how much your battery regulary lasts? (With regular usage of calls, messaging, browing the net, playing games and music, etc.)
Thanks a lot for your input guys.
did you try freezing unwanted background services that were running on the custom rom that you were once on??
less background services = more battery life
leodasal2 said:
did you try freezing unwanted background services that were running on the custom rom that you were once on??
less background services = more battery life
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Already did. I went so far as to uninstall apps I didnt even use like Google Maps, Mail, etc.
Right now these are some of the things left in my cache:
Google back up transport
User Dictionary
CSC
Status bar
Google contacts sync
Software update
SyncmIDS
SNS
SamsungAppsUNA2
LogsProvider
BrcmBluetoothServices
PCWDevice
DRM content
Im not sure which ones of these that are left should I freeze.
They all auto-restart themselves, and I think my phone wouldnt function properly if I freezed them.
I don't know what custom rom should I use. Can anyone suggest me?
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godofping1111 said:
I don't know what custom rom should I use. Can anyone suggest me?
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Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534510
listed there are all the custom ROM's available as of now.. visit the individual threads and read up on features.
I use Chobits myself
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Already did. I went so far as to uninstall apps I didnt even use like Google Maps, Mail, etc.
Right now these are some of the things left in my cache:
Google back up transport
User Dictionary
CSC
Status bar
Google contacts sync
Software update
SyncmIDS
SNS
SamsungAppsUNA2
LogsProvider
BrcmBluetoothServices
PCWDevice
DRM content
Im not sure which ones of these that are left should I freeze.
They all auto-restart themselves, and I think my phone wouldnt function properly if I freezed them.
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You can freeze the "Software update" if your not planning to update your phone via Over-The-Air upgrade and Samsung AppsUNA2 if you're not using Samsung Apps because this is part of Samsung Apps.
Just don't freeze the following
Process name | Description
DRM Content-Dont freese this process because some people reported that
they ringtones got messed up after freezing this.
Status Bar-Where you can see your notifications , Don't freeze this.
BrcmBluetoothServices-Part of Bluetooth services on our phone,Don't freeze this.
SNS-Social Network Services. This will manage your accounts like
Facebook,Twitter etc.
Google Contacts sync-Syncs your Google contacts to your Contacts , You can
disable this on Settings>Accounts & Sync>Tap on your
Google Account>Uncheck "Sync Contacts">Done !
Google Backup Transport-Unknown Description . Just don't freeze this .
LogsProvider-Unknown description - Just don't freeze this .
CSC-Contains your important network settings , Don't freeze this.
PCWDevice- Your Device
SyncmIDS-Unknown Description . Just don't freeze ..
Do i have mistakes on what to freeze and not to freeze ? , Just correct me
hi guys..
just found today that if we go in Apps - All Apps - App Info, for some of the Samsung app, we see two buttons at the top, Force Close and Disable.
As I said, the Disable button shows up only on certain Samsung apps, for ex All Share Play has this, but not All Share Cast, etc.
My question now is..what does this disable function do? is it the same as freezing apps from TiBu? why is this only on selective apps?
Also, I disabled the following apps: Allshare Play, ChatOn, Exchange Services, Game Hub, Learning Hub, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store! I know i dont use any of these ever, but can this in any way affect the normal functioning of the fone? I dont think any of the above are android critical apps..but jst want an opinion.
Thanks
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hi guys..
just found today that if we go in Apps - All Apps - App Info, for some of the Samsung app, we see two buttons at the top, Force Close and Disable.
As I said, the Disable button shows up only on certain Samsung apps, for ex All Share Play has this, but not All Share Cast, etc.
My question now is..what does this disable function do? is it the same as freezing apps from TiBu? why is this only on selective apps?
Also, I disabled the following apps: Allshare Play, ChatOn, Exchange Services, Game Hub, Learning Hub, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store! I know i dont use any of these ever, but can this in any way affect the normal functioning of the fone? I dont think any of the above are android critical apps..but jst want an opinion.
Thanks
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I fyou are are rooted you can delete them permanently with ROMCleaner from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937955.
Make a nandroid backup first in case you might want them back. This is the best way to get rid of bloatware
I've done more or less the same stuff. No problems so far. If something goes wrong, remember what you have disabled. A mail function not working? Enable a disabled mail-related app and try again... Nothing worse than that happened when I disabled lots of stuff on my last phone (SGS2). No issues so far on Note 2.
Disabled apps is similar to saying "not loaded apps" or "inaccessible apps". I never dealt with freezing apps, but after a short look it seems like it can be like this: I think freezing apps is to basically turn of their normal behavior (they can not give notifications or anything like that during frozen status). It can still run but not perform it's normal functions.
The ones that can not be disabled can often be more critical to various other apps on the phone. If the phone is rooted there are usually more possibilities though.
Some built-in apps that has been upgraded may need to have the upgrade uninstalled before being able to disable it.
I have currently these disabled: Allshare Play, Bubbles, ChatOn, Deep sea, Dual clock, Exchange Services, Face Unlock, Favorite Contacts, Gallery (using QuickPic), Game Hub, Learning Hub, Luminus dots, Messaging (using Go SMS), Phase Beam, Photo Wall, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store, Ripple Wall, S Suggest, S Voice, TalkBack, Windy Weather, Yahoo! (both).
Not all of those actually does any good to disable really... I just get them away from my sight So far no issues.
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I fyou are are rooted you can delete them permanently with ROMCleaner from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937955.
Make a nandroid backup first in case you might want them back. This is the best way to get rid of bloatware
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yep..aware of that. jst that i havent yet decided to go ahead and root this beast!
swejuggalo said:
I've done more or less the same stuff. No problems so far. If something goes wrong, remember what you have disabled. A mail function not working? Enable a disabled mail-related app and try again... Nothing worse than that happened when I disabled lots of stuff on my last phone (SGS2). No issues so far on Note 2.
Disabled apps is similar to saying "not loaded apps" or "inaccessible apps". I never dealt with freezing apps, but after a short look it seems like it can be like this: I think freezing apps is to basically turn of their normal behavior (they can not give notifications or anything like that during frozen status). It can still run but not perform it's normal functions.
The ones that can not be disabled can often be more critical to various other apps on the phone. If the phone is rooted there are usually more possibilities though.
Some built-in apps that has been upgraded may need to have the upgrade uninstalled before being able to disable it.
I have currently these disabled: Allshare Play, Bubbles, ChatOn, Deep sea, Dual clock, Exchange Services, Face Unlock, Favorite Contacts, Gallery (using QuickPic), Game Hub, Learning Hub, Luminus dots, Messaging (using Go SMS), Phase Beam, Photo Wall, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store, Ripple Wall, S Suggest, S Voice, TalkBack, Windy Weather, Yahoo! (both).
Not all of those actually does any good to disable really... I just get them away from my sight So far no issues.
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great..thx for the details..didnt know this disable thing existed in older devices too.
Also, I noticed while disabling most of them, the "Force Close" button was also enabled, but again only for some. Does that somehow suggest that these apps stayed in the memory all/most of the time. Maybe some affect on battery by disabling them..! :highfive:
Sorry to bring up an older thread, but I couldn't find any other relevant thread about bloatware on the Note 2 [maybe my search keywords weren't correct ] But I was curious to what other apps or services are safe for us to disable/remove (without rooting the device)? My note 2 is from AT&T and from what I read and see, it appears to have a lot of bloatware. If anyone could direct me to a list of apps thats safe to remove, I'd be very appreciative. Thanks in advance!
There's a disable "Crap" button in settings.
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There's a dedicated thread for apps safe to remove:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910885
When testing what is / isn't safe to remove - rather than deleting something just rename it in Root Explorer... eg if I wanted to delete Flipboard.apk I would change it to Flipboard.apk.bak first. Then if it screws the phone up you just change the name back, reboot and it will be back to normal. If there are no issues, then go back and fully delete it.
Since this is my first android smartphone, I'm trying to figure out what background apps I can disable to keep my Note 2 running to the best of its abilities.
I've already disabled S-Voice and turned off its double-tap home button feature. I've disabled most of the obvious AT&T-branded apps as well.
However some apps are running on my device that I'm unsure whether or not they can be disabled:
Media Hub
AllShare Service
Samsung Push Service
S Suggest
AvrcpServiceSamsung
Media
MAPServiceSamsung
GlanceViewMk
SecPhone
Also, it looks like Maps is running at times when I haven't even launched the app. Should I just not worry about that?
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Since this is my first android smartphone, I'm trying to figure out what background apps I can disable to keep my Note 2 running to the best of its abilities.
I've already disabled S-Voice and turned off its double-tap home button feature. I've disabled most of the obvious AT&T-branded apps as well.
However some apps are running on my device that I'm unsure whether or not they can be disabled:
Media Hub
AllShare Service
Samsung Push Service
S Suggest
AvrcpServiceSamsung
Media
MAPServiceSamsung
GlanceViewMk
SecPhone
Also, it looks like Maps is running at times when I haven't even launched the app. Should I just not worry about that?
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The Note 2 is a beast and can seemingly handle anything I've thrown at it. I don't think S-Voice runs in the background as an active process so there's no reason to disable that unless you just won't ever use it. Most of the other apps you listed are system apps and can't be removed/disabled without rooting the phone first. If you want superior performance and battery life, you should consider rooting and flashing the latest CleanROM. The developer of CleanROM removed all of the unnecessary bloat that AT&T and Samsung installed and did some tweaks in the background to improve efficiency. You can check it out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986893
As far as maps running when you haven't launched it, it should do that if you have location services turned on for the phone and/or other apps.
** DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A DEVELOPER. I DO THIS AS A HOBBY AND SHARE MY FINDINGS IN CASE SOMEONE ELSE FINDS THEM USEFUL. **
** THIS WORKED ON MY DEVICE BUT IT MAY NOT WORK ON YOURS. APPLY AT YOUR OWN RISK **
Background
This script is written for the sole purpose of reducing the power consumption of Android 5.0 update for T-Mobile Note 3. A lot more can be removed from the system but that will not make a significant contribution to power.
The debloat script does not really remove anything; it only disables the apps. You can always run the enbloat script to revert it.
THIS SCRIPT IS FOR LOLLIPOP ONLY. WILL NOT WORK ON OTHER ANDROID FLAVORS.
What this script does
Please read below and understand what this script does before you use it. There may be an app on the list that you may actually want to keep.
Removes: FOTA, update, and security vehicles.
Because: these vehicles push "Security Updates" onto the device. If you make the mistake of accepting this security update, even after you root your tablet, it can patch the hole and you will never be able to use the same exploit to root again.
Removes: Google apps including Gmail and Google sync apps except for Maps, Youtube, Chrome, and Voice Search.
Because: Google apps do a lot of bookkeeping, locationing, and internet access in the background with very little benefit to the user, while consuming a lot of power. If you use Gmail my suggestion is to use the default Email program since it allows a better management of the sync schedule and consumes less battery (and a few other good things). Note that this can severely limit your access to Play Store so either install all store apps you need before debloating or use sideloading to install them after
Removes: Knox
Because: I am yet to meet a single person who likes this nightmare of an app.
Removes: Tmobile stuff except for Voice mail and hotspot
Because: Tmobile bloat does too much activity in the background. In particular, Lookout scans your device constantly to no obvious advantage.
Removes: Backup/cloud agents
Because: Most advanced users backup their data through other means
Removes: Remote control and tracking mechanisms
Because: If you are reading this you most likely don't want your device to be remotely tracked or controlled by Samsung
Removes: ANT services, health, INDI (v2), secgba (v2), Peel (v2)
Because: They run in the background and use the radio.
Removes: Weather (unified) daemon
Because: Major battery hog
Removes: Chat ON, Gear Manager Stub, Bloomberg
Because: Not particularly useful and can be installed from the market if needed
Removes: Enterprise and VPN tools
Because: Most users don't use them
And since someone will ask at some point, no, this script won't trip your Knox!
Requirements:
Rooted Samsung Note 3 SM-N900T (T-mobile model) on Lollipop N900TUVUFOB6. See this thread.
Android Terminal Emulator: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm&hl=en
Download link:
Attached below
Instructions:
Make a backup of your files/system. Also have a flashable Odin ROM handy to recover from possible disasters. I am not responsible if you brick your device while using these scripts.
To debloat:
1- Unzip the attachment and copy debloat.sh to your phone at /sdcard
2- Run the terminal emulator and type the following:
su
cd /sdcard
sh debloat.sh3- It will do its thing and reboot your phone in about 5 seconds.
To restore the bloatware:
1- Unzip the attachment and copy enbloat.sh to your phone at /sdcard
2- Run the terminal emulator and type the following:
su
cd /sdcard
sh enbloat.sh3- It will do its thing and reboot your phone in about 5 seconds. You have all your bloat back now.
Note that while running the debloat script you may get force-closing popups. This is normal; after all you are disabling these applications.
Limitations:
If you have previously removed bloat using other means this script CANNOT recover it for you. enbloat.sh can only restore what debloat.sh has disabled.
Final Notes
With this script you should be able to get anywhere between 0.25 to 1 percent discharge per hour in standby mode. Your awake time should also be around 1-3%. You will still find that Google Services will wake up and use GPS every time you unlock your phone. To get even better battery performance turn your GPS off when you are not using it
This should be sufficient for 99% of people. After you apply this script, if you still want more try this: Disable Phonesky, google play services, Google framework, and stock YouTube by renaming their apks (not the directory they are in but the apks themselves) to .apk.bac, reboot, and install an older version of youtube that does not need Google Services, such as 5.1.10. Note that this drastic removal of Google services will make assisted GPS very slow in Google Maps. If you don't understand what that means it is best to stick with the debloat script and not mess with your system.
Regardless of whether you end up using this code or not, my suggestion to you is to go to Settings -> General -> Security -> Security Policy Updates -> untick Automatic Updates.
Update
Version 2 removes more background processes. If you have already used version 1 to debloat, I recommend that you use version 1 to restore the bloat and then use version 2 to debloat again.
Thanks for contributing your work!
Frank
411y0ur8453 said:
See above/
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Anyways, we don't need a big long debate about it. I am just saying there needs to be a little more objective evidence for this, especially when the logic and reason at the beginning of the OP doesn't match the logic and reasoning in the list of applications being removed.
And the knox app is embedded deep into the device's core framework, simply removing the app is doing very little to remove it in it's entirety.
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This is true. Knox is embedded deep into the system even bootloader removing the app will do close to nothing. Not putting down the work put into the script as it is indeed a time saver if you have spend a little time with Android. If not they can be turned off manually. As for the security holes. There will always be a way to root and mod. Oems have that to themselves. Take a look at our brethren over with verizon and att. Their devices are locked down tight and came like that out of the manufacturer. Our devices are unlocked boot loader wise. If they wanted to they would have locked our models too.
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Also a very good point...:good:
Meh... A lot of the time, removing and freezing apps can be counter productive.
For example,mpdecision, which controls when cores come online, has calls to it embedded into Samsung's camera apk, and removing or renaming this file can negatively impact battery life when using the camera application because a lot of the time, oems don't build checks into their software. They simply expect the file to be present, and when it's not, it can create a loop and drain battery.
Unless you've gone through the entire system to look for references to the apps you're removing, it's best to simply freeze or leave them alone.
freeza said:
Meh... A lot of the time, removing and freezing apps can be counter productive.
For example,mpdecision, which controls when cores come online, has calls to it embedded into Samsung's camera apk, and removing or renaming this file can negatively impact battery life when using the camera application because a lot of the time, oems don't build checks into their software. They simply expect the file to be present, and when it's not, it can create a loop and drain battery.
Unless you've gone through the entire system to look for references to the apps you're removing, it's best to simply freeze or leave them alone.
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You are right about the mpdecision process and it makes common sense to not remove a process like that. The same can be said about different timers and alarm processes in the system and the list goes on.
Having said that, I would be more than happy to explain how each item on this list contributes to saving power or protects the system from being subjected to unwanted patches without compromising the integrity of it.
And finally, I have been already using this setup (even a more aggressive version of it) for a few days on my phone with excellent power results and not a single hiccup or force closed app. I have also constantly monitored the wake locks and background processes to make sure the situation you referred to does not occur. I would be glad to hear your feedback if you use it and find a different outcome.
Op, can you share me one with Gapps and debloating all stuffs which are not necessary (TMO Services),if you live away from US of A? It would be much helpful for people like me.
jhbalaji said:
Op, can you share me one with Gapps and debloating all stuffs which are not necessary (TMO Services),if you live away from US of A? It would be much helpful for people like me.
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There is a lot that can be taken out but every piece removes a bit of functionality with it. If you live abroad it is understandable to remove all TMO stuff but, for example, if you remove more Google stuff than this script does YouTube will stop working and maps becomes slower. Also, there are services like printers or widgets like flipboard etc that you may still want to keep. So to what extent do you want to debloat your system?
I had already debloated several apps but thought this could help a bit more with the battery. So far I haven't had any issues, crashes, etc.
Thanks for sharing.
Update: It causes Milk Music to not work.
dirtybudha said:
I had already debloated several apps but thought this could help a bit more with the battery. So far I haven't had any issues, crashes, etc.
Thanks for sharing.
Update: It causes Milk Music to not work.
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What is milk music? I don't have that app. Do you mean google music? Oh, you mean the one from the play store?
OK, Milk music is a samsung app. It needs the samsung account apps that are some of the things that this script disables. If you need your milk music back, run the enbloat script and you will have it back.
Yeah, I followed the instructions which were UBER easy. Thanks for that.
I figured it was related to that.
najoor said:
What is milk music? I don't have that app. Do you mean google music? Oh, you mean the one from the play store?
OK, Milk music is a samsung app. It needs the samsung account apps that are some of the things that this script disables. If you need your milk music back, run the enbloat script and you will have it back.
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Here is an example of how debloating can be beneficial. On an unmodified phone I set the brightness to about 50 percent and let the phone play a 720p video in a loop. I could get 10 hours of screen time. However if you look closely, Lookout has been busy in the background burning 13% of the battery. So if I had disabled it I would have arguably got another hour of screen time.
I love this scipt! As a laymen, all I have to do is import it via Rom Toolbox (Pro) to the sciprter--then execute. My device runs at least twice as well as before.
Thanks, OP!
cant wait to try this out
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I used this apps it's really capable of uninstalling the bloatware on Android 11 Oos. I am not the developer of this apps, just sharing it. But be careful while uninstalling the bloatware apps. You end up in bootloop if you delete the essential system apps. So, be careful while uninstalling the system app, I myself and the developers are not liable in anyway if you brick your phone or any damage caused to your device.
EXA System App Remover: Uninst - Apps on Google Play
Remove system app easily in one click. (Root Required）
play.google.com
Credit: EXA lab
I don't know if this really works, system partition is protected from any tampering. Deactivating shouldn't be a problem, but i don't think it will really remove it, otherwise Android wouldn't boot
TheSSJ said:
I don't know if this really works, system partition is protected from any tampering. Deactivating shouldn't be a problem, but i don't think it will really remove it, otherwise Android wouldn't boot
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Yes, I don't know how this apps works but it really does it's job. Unlike magisk module debloater, apps doesn't restores after uninstalling this apps.
Is gboard from Google removable or OnePlus Games without root?
I guess the Google app's contacts, agenda and Google drives aren't removable without breaking those functions in Android?
PUNKM
Sex Pistols said:
Is gboard from Google removable or OnePlus Games without root?
I guess the Google app's contacts, agenda and Google drives aren't removable without breaking those functions in Android?
PUNKM
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You need to root your device to remove it.
Confirmed working with root
When I root my device bank-app's for paying don't work anymore and that's what I really need as the most used apps on my Android mobile.
Now I've 5 or 6 apps that I don't update but those apps stay in the list of updates for apps. That is very annoying. Isn't there a way to hide those apps?
Sex Pistols said:
When I root my device bank-app's for paying don't work anymore and that's what I really need as the most used apps on my Android mobile.
Now I've 5 or 6 apps that I don't update but those apps stay in the list of updates for apps. That is very annoying. Isn't there a way to hide those apps?
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You can simply disable in apps options. And you don't even need to root for ir.
I did shut them down and set them off, but the gboard and gamespace app's stay in the list for updates.
Gmail can be set completely off (and even deleted) and don't show up for update.
Just as Contacts and Agenda from Google, but when you set those completely off, Outlook don't work anymore and it's not possible to set a new contact or appointment in the phone or Outlook-app.
Outlook or the Android system give an error like: no native app installed?
Yeah great!?