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Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'm going to miss being able to use my phone to pay for things, as I've grown somewhat accustomed to being able to do it. lol I love going to Dairy Queen, or Best Buy, or the drug store and just tapping my phone. I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.
mysterioustko said:
Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.
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Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC
NFC is just a chip. You still need the software to use it. For example, I used Google Wallet on my Nexus S (which has a NFC chip). Without software to use the NFC chip with, it's useless. In other words, you have to have some sort of payment software on the phone in order to make use of the NFC as a form of payment.
Lightning N1 said:
Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC
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NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.
While there has been no official announcement, I don't ever think the Verizon version will ever see Google Wallet. Verizon has teamed up with T-Mobile and AT&T to put together Isis, a competitor to Google Wallet. Thats why we only see Google Wallet or Sprint.
martonikaj said:
NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.
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Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.
mysterioustko said:
Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.
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I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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Yeah you would think that "officially" you'd be able to do it. Heck all Google would have to do is just put the app in the market to be downloaded and they wouldn't have to deal with the carriers at all (I think lol). But hey, gotta love the guys here at XDA, that got us around all that and brought it to the tmobile nexus. I'm just hoping it can be done on the Galaxy Nexus too.
Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.
Niksko said:
Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.
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Perhaps there are legal issues with it. I have no idea. I just wish a standard would be established already so that we can use it in our day to day. I love using my phone to pay for things! lol
I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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fdm1 said:
Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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It's a US-only service, yes. It's just an app so nothing is stopping them from supporting it on the GSM/HSPA version.
I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.
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I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.
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I meant it as in "the service is currently available in the US only". As far as I know Google has only officially launched the service in the US as of yet. That could just have been a marketing thing though. I'm not sure if it works fine if a seller outside the US just plugs in a comatible NFC-enabled terminal.
Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.
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Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.
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Interesting. So it's nothing specific needed on the merchant's side other than an NFC-compatible paypass terminal? How does the service work software wise? They could very well have limits on the cards you can use it with.
You might want to check this out.
sitnlow4life said:
I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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This is the same thing that I was thinking. This is supposed to be the flagship device...you'd think it would already have Wallet on it...or at least have it available.
Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.
lukegb said:
Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.
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Great work! Anyone willing to try this to see if it works? I'd try it but I don't have my Galaxy Nexus yet (thanks to Handtec....). Great to see progress being made so quickly.
Forgive me if this topic exist i managed to download google wallet but when i open the app it force closes anyone get it to work?
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I use Google wallet but I'm not aware of an app. It just stores my payment info. Confused on the app?!?
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You may want to check out this thread. Apparently these instructions are for installing Google Wallet on the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm not sure if it's very different from the T989 in regards to Google Wallet or not. That being said, it seems to be a pretty complicated hack to get this app working. Examples are this post and this one.
Good Luck..
I would love to get Google Wallet on the T989. I've tried the various methods described but so far have not had success. Others have said they have it working but for some reason the Google Gods have not deemed me worthy enough yet. I have, however, heard that it will be baked into the ICS rom so I stopped trying and decided to wait.
I'm just guessing but wallet should be here by the time samsung releases the official ics for our device I HOPE!! but from what i read that verizon blocked nexus from get google wallet, i just hope tmobile doesnt make that same mistake.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-12-06/tech/30481003_1_verizon-google-wallet-t-mobile
Sorry I posted my comments and links above, before checking out if anyone had posted about trying to get Google Wallet to run on the SGSII. Apparently folks have tried it out, and they started a thread right here about it. Unfortunately noone responding on the thread has it working either.
Good Luck..
I doubt we will see any stock ROM from our carrier with Google Wallet and here's the reason, IMHO. Verizon, TMO and AT&T have all blocked Google Wallet because they are in league with ISIS. I read somewhere that the carriers want to tie the credentials to a SIM card which would be a disincentive for people to change carriers. Google Wallet is carrier independent and can be easily moved from one device to another although I do recall reading somewhere that it might use the phones IMEI in some way. Regardless, the carriers will continue to block Google Wallet as much as they can in favor of ISIS and in the process slow down GW adoption and market momentum even tho ISIS is really still vaporware.
If Google was smart they would release an APK that enabled google wallet for everyone. The FTC has ruled that jailbreaking to add functionality is not illegal and for all intents and purposes, that's what we are doing when we "root" our phones. Someone could make a compelling argument against the DMCA and in favor of the FTC ruling giving us the license to add and use GW against the carrier wishes.
But then again... I can be wrong about all this and the carriers have our best interested at heart.
Wilsonium said:
I doubt we will see any stock ROM from our carrier with Google Wallet and here's the reason, IMHO. Verizon, TMO and AT&T have all blocked Google Wallet because they are in league with ISIS. I read somewhere that the carriers want to tie the credentials to a SIM card which would be a disincentive for people to change carriers. Google Wallet is carrier independent and can be easily moved from one device to another although I do recall reading somewhere that it might use the phones IMEI in some way. Regardless, the carriers will continue to block Google Wallet as much as they can in favor of ISIS and in the process slow down GW adoption and market momentum even tho ISIS is really still vaporware.
If Google was smart they would release an APK that enabled google wallet for everyone. The FTC has ruled that jailbreaking to add functionality is not illegal and for all intents and purposes, that's what we are doing when we "root" our phones. Someone could make a compelling argument against the DMCA and in favor of the FTC ruling giving us the license to add and use GW against the carrier wishes.
But then again... I can be wrong about all this and the carriers have our best interested at heart.
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I know it sucks googles allowing this on their os thats one thing ios has over android apple doesnt let carriers mess with their stuff
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Google wallet is in the market for one phone only. Nexus S 4g. And the phone has to be running ics for it to work. As soon as we get some form of ics on this phone, we will see access to Google wallet as well. Maybe not on an official level, but we will have it.
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Greetings! I'm getting conflicting information if this is actually working or not on AT&T network. Anyone have this working?
A recent news article mentions that AT&T has approved NFC on one x, but chatting with a AT&T Store Manager mentions NFC is still disabled for all devices... Can anyone confirm or deny? Any work arounds?
Thanks in advance!
You want this forum. This is the international One X forum and the AT&T one isn't the same. The AT&T One X is actually the "One XL" but they annoyingly called it the One X as well. The baseband, CPU and GPU are different in the One XL.
i have the international X model and it's on the ATT network, so this is in the right place. it's also been discussed already in topics about NFC and Google Wallet. i can vouch that it does not work with an ATT sim and it does not work with a Straight Talk sim. it's nice of them to list a feature that most people can't even use. they shouldn't even mention NFC on these phones if we can't use it properly. i'm not buying a bunch of tags to play with. that's not the point of NFC.
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i have the international X model and it's on the ATT network, so this is in the right place. it's also been discussed already in topics about NFC and Google Wallet. i can vouch that it does not work with an ATT sim and it does not work with a Straight Talk sim. it's nice of them to list a feature that most people can't even use. they shouldn't even mention NFC on these phones if we can't use it properly. i'm not buying a bunch of tags to play with. that's not the point of NFC.
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Nfc works fine on the international version on ATT. The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue.
Google Wallet on the other hand doesn't work on the One X. This isn't a carrier issue. Complain to Google to authorize the device.
You can say what you like, but "the point" of nfc isn't Google Wallet. The point is NFC. Mobile payments are coming in the form of Isis wallet, carrier specific wallets, MasterCard now is developing a mobile payment system with nfc as well as google wallet. This is all a ways off though.
Don't purchase an emerging technology and then wine that you aren't surrounded with use cases. If you want to move to India or Japan they are much further forward in deploying nfc than the US.
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The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue
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This isn't true. The carrier and Google have to have an agreement in place on a per device basis to use Google Wallet which is what most people in the U.S. relate to NFC. Under pressure, AT&T authorized the Nexi. They are the only devices allowed by AT&T to access Google Wallet via their network. And Google Wallet requires a carrier connection, it doesn't work over Wi-Fi.
There are hacks to spoof the network and in some cases you can even gain (unsecured) access to some of the features. But if you screw up the security token on your phone (which quite a few people have done) you'll never be able to use it with a payment system again and there is no recovery available.
NFC as a means of communication is very different than using it in conjunction with a payment system.
krohnjw said:
Nfc works fine on the international version on ATT. The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue.
Google Wallet on the other hand doesn't work on the One X. This isn't a carrier issue. Complain to Google to authorize the device.
You can say what you like, but "the point" of nfc isn't Google Wallet. The point is NFC. Mobile payments are coming in the form of Isis wallet, carrier specific wallets, MasterCard now is developing a mobile payment system with nfc as well as google wallet. This is all a ways off though.
Don't purchase an emerging technology and then wine that you aren't surrounded with use cases. If you want to move to India or Japan they are much further forward in deploying nfc than the US.
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thanks for your wonderful attitude. take your meds. explain to me the usefulness of nfc then. also i complained to google on play reviews for wallet. this forum is flooded with idiots. i should get a phone nobody is using or stop reading you people and just go to the dev threads.
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This isn't true. The carrier and Google have to have an agreement in place on a per device basis to use Google Wallet which is what most people in the U.S. relate to NFC. Under pressure, AT&T authorized the Nexi. They are the only devices allowed by AT&T to access Google Wallet via their network. And Google Wallet requires a carrier connection, it doesn't work over Wi-Fi.
There are hacks to spoof the network and in some cases you can even gain (unsecured) access to some of the features. But if you screw up the security token on your phone (which quite a few people have done) you'll never be able to use it with a payment system again and there is no recovery available.
NFC as a means of communication is very different than using it in conjunction with a payment system.
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NFC != Google Wallet. The fact remains ATT can't disable NFC on a device they have no control over. Google Wallet is an app the leverages NFC.
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brent8577 said:
thanks for your wonderful attitude. take your meds. explain to me the usefulness of nfc then. also i complained to google on play reviews for wallet. this forum is flooded with idiots. i should get a phone nobody is using or stop reading you people and just go to the dev threads.
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Speak for yourself before you dish out insults. Your phone has NFC and it WORKS. Google Wallet doesn't work by NFC DOES.
AT&T can NOT stop you from using NFC as a whole but they can stop you from using an app like Google Wallet that requires NFC.
NFC has always worked on your phone, you just think that means you can use Google Wallet when it doesn't.
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Many of the retailers in my city have MasterCard's PayPass system installed at their POS terminals. I have an NFC-enabled phone (Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G). The hardware is all in place, but it seems the software hasn't caught up yet, which almost seems backward. Google Wallet only works with about 8 phones; PayPass itself tells you to go to your bank, and the banks know nothing. Why is this so difficult? Now that MasterCard released its SDK a couple weeks ago, is it likely that new apps will be developed that will finally link our hardware? Or are there existing tools out there that I am somehow overlooking?
It is not a software issue. Payment applications are provided by Visa and MasterCard and banks personalize them for the customers. You need your bank to support the mobile payment on a SIM or the embedded secure element to run on your phone. It is slower in the U.S. than the rest of the world.
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Many of the retailers in my city have MasterCard's PayPass system installed at their POS terminals. I have an NFC-enabled phone (Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G). The hardware is all in place, but it seems the software hasn't caught up yet, which almost seems backward. Google Wallet only works with about 8 phones; PayPass itself tells you to go to your bank, and the banks know nothing. Why is this so difficult? Now that MasterCard released its SDK a couple weeks ago, is it likely that new apps will be developed that will finally link our hardware? Or are there existing tools out there that I am somehow overlooking?
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It is not a software issue. Payment applications are provided by Visa and MasterCard and banks personalize them for the customers. You need your bank to support the mobile payment on a SIM or the embedded secure element to run on your phone. It is slower in the U.S. than the rest of the world.
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In addition to that, your phone often has to be prepared for this. Since even today card emulation mode is still not supportet by stock Android, most vendors sell special enabled phones.
Got the email from google telling me that they have switched to Android pay and the link to download it via the play store. I get the message that my device is not compatible with it when I get to the play store. Pretty sure I am not the only one who is frustrated with this. Hoped it will get baked in when google bought softcard (ISIS). Tried side loading the apk, but i just get the message that it is unavailable when i try to open the app.:crying::crying::crying:
I actually called Google about it, asking specifically if it would work, even giving "Ross" the heads up that wallet tap to pay never did. He assured me it would, of course it doesn't, I replied to him letting him know. Will be interesting to see what he comes back with.
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Got the email from google telling me that they have switched to Android pay and the link to download it via the play store. I get the message that my device is not compatible with it when I get to the play store. Pretty sure I am not the only one who is frustrated with this. Hoped it will get baked in when google bought softcard (ISIS). Tried side loading the apk, but i just get the message that it is unavailable when i try to open the app.:crying::crying::crying:
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It must be a T-Mobile thing. Sprint Note 3 has it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/android-pay-error-rooted-devices-t3204203
Were you rooted when you tried to install? For the initial install you must be unrooted. But showing incompatible on Play sounds like a carrier issue to me.
Did anyone ever get NFC working on their T-Mobile Note 3? I never could. Which sucks balls because I really want to do away with carrying so many pieces of plastic.
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It must be a T-Mobile thing. Sprint Note 3 has it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/android-pay-error-rooted-devices-t3204203
Were you rooted when you tried to install? For the initial install you must be unrooted. But showing incompatible on Play sounds like a carrier issue to me.
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It might be carrier related. Tmobile, AT&T and Verizon were the backers for Softcard in the beginning. You had to have Softcard compatible sim cards to use the payment features of softcard. I dont have the same sim card anymore, not sure if that will make a difference.
Rooted or not, you dont have access to the app on the app store.
Any luck on this issue.?
I did call Google and they told me that since my phone was used with softcard it cannot be used with Apple Pay.
I thought Android Pay would supersede Softcard since Google bought the thing... I think someone should call T-Mobile as well and ask them how else can we make NFC payments with everything not functional.
Tmobil official word
I called T mobile and tech support said Note 3 ( and several others) are NOT compatible.
Tech is updating all the customer support cheet sheets so no one else has to go through this with them.
Somehow I just knew this Pay app fiasco (ISIS, etc) would end badly for us.. If the greedy corporate SOB's would have just gone with Google in the first place.. I hope they learned something
Is a class action in the cards for NOTE 3 owners ?? Any Lawyers out there ?
I installed Android Pay through the APK mirror APK, it installed perfectly with no errors and detected my NFC. I'm using the AT&T Note 3 (4.4.4 KitKat) ( N900a). I just need some place to test it now.
Keep us posted. Glad to see note 3 still kicking it.
Installed it on my note 3 tmobile bit I use cricket with it. Can't test it or anything as the rom I have from ages ago nfc won't turn on
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Installed it on my note 3 tmobile bit I use cricket with it. Can't test it or anything as the rom I have from ages ago nfc won't turn on
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Android pay refuses to work if it detects that a device has been rooted. I switched back to the official Android 5.0 lollipop release for my Note 3 and Android pay works with no issues. I have added cards and successfully completed several purchases.
I did replace my battery last year, my current battery is an official Samsung battery manufactured in November 2015. Since some of the NFC hardware is in the battery this may have have helped my success with Android pay on my Galaxy Note 3