bought a second ZF2 from amazon. tracking shows it arrived 9/4 but i dont have it and had to have amazon open an investigation.....thats great but i have to wait for that before i get my new phone. So being i spent $300 on this new item and i dont have it, i am pissed and want to know if it would be possible to track the imei since Asus labels them on the box and i am sure amazon scans that barcode label. Couldnt they track the imei even if the phone is not activated? or would it have to be activated before the imei can be tracked?
i dont know how imei works with an inactive or active unlocked phone. Wouldnt the owner of the phone have to report the imei as stolen? but how would that work on a phone that didnt have a carrier?
Anyone know about this stuff? thanks in advance!
sidenote - i am sure amazon will send me a new phone once i call them in the morning. I did chat for the claim..... but it pisses me off to think someone might have stolen this from my front door. I would kind if like to find it.
Maynard46 said:
bought a second ZF2 from amazon. tracking shows it arrived 9/4 but i dont have it and had to have amazon open an investigation.....thats great but i have to wait for that before i get my new phone. So being i spent $300 on this new item and i dont have it, i am pissed and want to know if it would be possible to track the imei since Asus labels them on the box and i am sure amazon scans that barcode label. Couldnt they track the imei even if the phone is not activated? or would it have to be activated before the imei can be tracked?
i dont know how imei works with an inactive or active unlocked phone. Wouldnt the owner of the phone have to report the imei as stolen? but how would that work on a phone that didnt have a carrier?
Anyone know about this stuff? thanks in advance!
sidenote - i am sure amazon will send me a new phone once i call them in the morning. I did chat for the claim..... but it pisses me off to think someone might have stolen this from my front door. I would kind if like to find it.
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Depending what country but here in Oz if you supply the police with an imei number of a phone that was stolen it can be blacklisted. That means no carrier here in Australia will allow that phone to be used however if it gets shipped outside Australia there is no problem using the phone...
Sometimes you see these phones for sale on ebay with a title saying "For sale overseas only"...
i am in the US. i know imei can be blacklisted with a carrier, but this is an unopened brand new unlocked phone. No sim, no carrier. plus i am more interested in trying to see if i or amazon can track this phone to find out where it is.
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i am in the US. i know imei can be blacklisted with a carrier, but this is an unopened brand new unlocked phone. No sim, no carrier. plus i am more interested in trying to see if i or amazon can track this phone to find out where it is.
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Was it sold directly by amazon or an amazon seller? if it was by an amazon seller he "might" have a database containing IMEI's of the phones he sell's, if it was amazon then your out of luck they do not keep records of IMEI of any kind, just explain the issue to amazon im sure they will gladly replace the device.
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Was it sold directly by amazon or an amazon seller? if it was by an amazon seller he "might" have a database containing IMEI's of the phones he sell's, if it was amazon then your out of luck they do not keep records of IMEI of any kind, just explain the issue to amazon im sure they will gladly replace the device.
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From Amazon.....not a 3rd party i would be surprised Amazon wont record a serial # or imei # especially since the label is on the outside of the box with a simple barcode label.
Maynard46 said:
bought a second ZF2 from amazon. tracking shows it arrived 9/4 but i dont have it and had to have amazon open an investigation.....thats great but i have to wait for that before i get my new phone. So being i spent $300 on this new item and i dont have it, i am pissed and want to know if it would be possible to track the imei since Asus labels them on the box and i am sure amazon scans that barcode label. Couldnt they track the imei even if the phone is not activated? or would it have to be activated before the imei can be tracked?
i dont know how imei works with an inactive or active unlocked phone. Wouldnt the owner of the phone have to report the imei as stolen? but how would that work on a phone that didnt have a carrier?
Anyone know about this stuff? thanks in advance!
sidenote - i am sure amazon will send me a new phone once i call them in the morning. I did chat for the claim..... but it pisses me off to think someone might have stolen this from my front door. I would kind if like to find it.
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I called and they were very good about it. I get the impression this happens a lot. I don't know why they used usps. They make tons of mistakes.
I asked Amazon for the serial number and imei so I can file a police report. Sadly they emailed me the asin number instead. I can not believe they don't keep serial or imei for there products.
Is there a way to get this info from Amazon or even Asus? Police won't take a report with out that info
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To those who have the T-Mobile HTC Desire, is your IMEI number on your phone the same with the one on the packaging box? Mine do not match
LOL, where did you get it from? the official t-mobile shop or some retailer? I think you should contact them asap in case of further misunderstandings
You need to ask T-Mobile about that, I would be making sure that I had matching Box and Handset IMEI numbers, unless they can give you a very good reason why they are different?
I got it on Saturday from T mobile (upgrade). I just realised lol will call them
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You need to ask T-Mobile about that, I would be making sure that I had matching Box and Handset IMEI numbers, unless they can give you a very good reason why they are different?
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or they tell him it doesnt matter and the IMEI of the phone is the same with the one in their system
My IMEI matches so no problem here.
some operators can track the phone by the IMEI, so i guess if your phone have been stolen and went to the police station or the mobile service provider for help so they can track the mobile for you, the first thing they will ask is to see the IMEI and prove that its yours, probably through the package
so go to them and tell them about the mix up, atleast if something happened later on, you would have already mentioned it.
Just called them and was told that they are gonna send me a new phone apparently. They are gonna call me back soon. Oh wells!
hi guys.
I just bought another TP2 from Ebay to replace my one which is broken. I've put my simcard but it doesnt register on my network. I've tried my sim card in another phone and it works fine, and I'm able to connect to wi-fi on the new TP2, but not to my network....so I've come to the conclusion that it must have a locked imei number.
I conacted ebay and the seller to ask whether it was a stolen phone, but to no avail. the seller has de-listed and ebay arent interested as the phone is in "working order", even though I cant connect to a network!!!
is there anyway to change the number, or unlock it, so I can use it? Otherwise it's a pretty expensive paper weight! My fault for not checking these facts before buying, but you live and learn....anyone help?
Cheers
Don't expect advice on changing the IMEI here.
As for unlocking, take a look here: http://rhodium.htc-unlocks.com/ (as far as I know, there is no free solution).
report the transation to paypal. You'll get your money back. Especially if the phone was potentially stolen.
hi, i have recently purchased a touch pro 2 off ebay and i stuck my SIM card in it to find out i cant get a signal or make calls etc..
i really dont know what i should do.
please help. any advice is helpful.
Was it used or new?
used, he was selling as 'it no longer makes calls or sends texts'
if it was listed as barred theres no way i would have bought it. but with what he wrote it sounded fixable.
earni said:
used, he was selling as 'it no longer makes calls or sends texts
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So you were suprised when you got it that it doesn't make calls? Call you provider they might be able to unlock it if the phone isn't broken to begin with. Next time i suggest understand what you are buying because this is a pretty ridiculous post. I am questioning my own judgment for even answering to this post.
i wasnt surprised it didnt make calls, i thought he may just have a bad radio or something but i checked the imei on checkmend and it shows up as blocked..
You bought a phone that the seller told you didn't work. You assumed the reason it didn't work was one thing, but it turned out to be another. Whether he lied to you as to why it didn't work or not, you still took a chance on buying a phone you knew was not working. Take your loss, learn from it and move on.
If the phones blocked then he has found/stolen it. Or put in an insurance claim saying it’s been lost/stolen.
If you paid by PayPal put in a claim giving reason that you were not told the phone was blocked. You will then get your money back.
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i wasnt surprised it didnt make calls, i thought he may just have a bad radio or something but i checked the imei on checkmend and it shows up as blocked..
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bwaaaaahahahahahaha...that's what you get...!!!
earni said:
hi, i have recently purchased a touch pro 2 off ebay and i stuck my SIM card in it to find out i cant get a signal or make calls etc..
i really dont know what i should do.
please help. any advice is helpful.
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I've had this situation before and although it turned out that the phone I had purchased wasnt stolen, the process will be the same:
Contact your Phone Network and give them the IMEI number and explain the situation. Don't worry - they are used to dealing with this type of call. They will use a database shared between all the network providers to find out the original and current owner of the handset and tell you whether it has been registered stolen or just blocked by the previous owner (this is what happened to me only I found this out a lot later).
If they tell you it is stolen, take the handset and everything that came with it to your local police station, including print-outs of any correspondence you have had with the seller - via the website market place or direct.
The police will give you a crime number and most probably take the device and the print outs from you to investgate further. You will need the crime number to get your money back later on.
Contact the market place and your bank (credit card company) and explain the situation and give them the crime number.
In most situations, the market place will give you your money back (withdraw it from the sellers account). If they dont, your credit card company will do the chasing for you but you'll need to try yourself first.
The market place may ask you for more documents from the police and the police will be very understanding. The police woman assigned to my crime number was very helpful and was in regular contact with me about how the investigation was proceeding.
The whole process may take 6-8 weeks. It can be drawn out but persevere and you will get your money back - and deservedly so.
Good luck and PM me if you need any further advice.
I thought gsm phones cannot be blocked?
DJ_MiX said:
I thought gsm phones cannot be blocked?
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I am no expert but they can certainly be blacklisted by the owner and that was what I was suggesting.
http://www.unlockme.co.uk/blacklist.html was a site I read up on when I was faced with the same situation.
My phone was blocked. I rang up Orange and told them the situation and they unblocked it - to my surprise. At the same time, I had opened a case in eBay which went in my favour, but I decided to keep the TP2 as it's now working. In my case, I could get a signal (four bars), but it always came up with no connection.
Is there a way to unblock these back to the original carrier yet?
paulmagglios said:
Is there a way to unblock these back to the original carrier yet?
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Unblock what? Does the imei read 0? Is the phone rooted or modified in any way?
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Is there a way to unblock these back to the original carrier yet?
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Where did you buy it?
Sounds to me like you are black listed. If so then you can probably do it if your name was the first attached to that phone and reported the ESN. Upon that failing, you can try to bribe someone to clear your ESN. What I have noticed is that there are a lot of bad ESN phones being sold to Canada, as it seems the checks are not compatible and could work up here. Aside from those options, it seems you have a bad phone.
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Sounds to me like you are black listed. If so then you can probably do it if your name was the first attached to that phone and reported the ESN. Upon that failing, you can try to bribe someone to clear your ESN. What I have noticed is that there are a lot of bad ESN phones being sold to Canada, as it seems the checks are not compatible and could work up here. Aside from those options, it seems you have a bad phone.
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Yeah, it was a craigslist buy
Also I've heard about the options to sell overseas and to canadians, but would like to use the phone here in the States if at all possible.
So these craigslist and ebay ads about being able to 'fix' the imei back to the original carrier are false?
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Yeah, it was a craigslist buy
Also I've heard about the options to sell overseas and to canadians, but would like to use the phone here in the States if at all possible.
So these craigslist and ebay ads about being able to 'fix' the imei back to the original carrier are false?
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My understanding is that bad IMEI or ESN is due to the phone being reported lost or stolen. I'm assuming here, but i'd be pretty confident in saying that the original owner would have to contact the original carrier to clear the block. Otherwise anyone could steal and un block ESN. On the other hand, the people offering this service may work for whatever agency or carrier deals with blocking ESNs. Here is an Ebay ad I've found for ATT. Seems kind of legit, but is definitely risky to give someone remote control of your phone in order to swap the IMEI number. Up to you entirely though. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bad-IMEI-ES...217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd6ca26e9.
Thread closed before imei swapping ideas are presented as that is illegal in some countries and not allowed on XDA.
Hey all,
I've just bought a used G3 online, everything is perfect and almost new as stated:good:. But, when i excitedly opened the phone's back cover and removed battery to put my sim card and sd card in, I found out that the IMEI tag has been part torn/cut off with a blade (pic attached).
Now, that is slightly freaking me out as to why has this been done.
Could anyone shed some light on it, as I've 7days left, within which i can return the phone to the seller.
hsyasin said:
Hey all,
I've just bought a used G3 online, everything is perfect and almost new as stated:good:. But, when i excitedly opened the phone's back cover and removed battery to put my sim card and sd card in, I found out that the IMEI tag has been part torn/cut off with a blade (pic attached).
Now, that is slightly freaking me out as to why has this been done.
Could anyone shed some light on it, as I've 7days left, within which i can return the phone to the seller.
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Looking on my G3, the removed part is the serial number.
Maybe the seller had a refund offer and had to send the S/N ? (usually it's the box one but hum....)
I had 20€ off for a Quick Circle Case, but I sent the label on the box.
Thanks for that raptor2003..
I'm just wondering, can it cause some sort of an issue in the long run, like if i need to get something done under warranty from lg...
FYI: I don't know if i've valid lg warrantly.
In fact is there a way to find out when the phone was manufactured or if i've lg warranty?
hsyasin said:
Thanks for that raptor2003..
I'm just wondering, can it cause some sort of an issue in the long run, like if i need to get something done under warranty from lg...
FYI: I don't know if i've valid lg warrantly.
In fact is there a way to find out when the phone was manufactured or if i've lg warranty?
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I know there is that with Apple's products, but I don't know if other manufacturers do that.
I've looked a bit to see if we can find the S/N in some software menu. But I haven't found anything. Nothing in the famous hidden menu.
Did you get the phone from Smartfonestore as a refurb?
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Did you get the phone from Smartfonestore as a refurb?
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Yes i did, and it was a grade A.
Likewise. And mine has the same sticker taken off. I emailed them but got a crap reply; fingers crossed it doesn't break.
Most likely the motherboard was swapped and a new imei was issued
In Australia serial removal usually means the device has been repaired/serviced/not new. These devices are no longer new/ownedby original owner so serials are removed, so can no longer be sold as new. Serial and IMEI are different things. Typically serial is for manufacturer to identify devices. IMEI are for unique device tracking across world/country. IMEI you can check in ABOUT in settings, missing IMEI sticker i wouldn't worry about, make sure it is NOT registered as stolen tho.