External SD as system partition??? - Desire General

So, what I am looking for is information on the possibility of making your external sd into a system partition so when you see your free space, is not just showing a bit over a hundred MB, but all the free space on the sd card also.
Is this possible?
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Deep Ellum Dan said:
So, what I am looking for is information on the possibility of making your external sd into a system partition so when you see your free space, is not just showing a bit over a hundred MB, but all the free space on the sd card also.
Is this possible?
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I believe that it is possible, if you write yourself firmware.
In the meantime, please refer to the Android HTC - Hacking explained

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Memory problem

I have just seven apps on my desire and it say I don't have more place , what else more than app are on entire disk which I can clean for I get more place . I have desire rooted with 16gb SD card
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Are you using A2SD+? Or this is the internal memory?
I have problem with internal memory
What are more things are on the memory I can delete
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Unless you are S-OFF, you can only delete the things you've installed by yourself or move them to the SD Card (Non_A2SD+).
What do u mean s off
I mean the apps is about 50 mb what happened with 200 mb
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Stock ROM? Rooted? More info please.
i dont which rom i didnt change the rom but it´s rooted
i have app 2 sd and under movable idont have any app to move
under phone only there are 6 apps
adobe flash player 11.29 MB
Maps 11.09MB
Gmail 4.52 MB
Market 3 MB
Bank 1.94MB
Street view 604 kb
and the total is 147.62 MB
what are the rest ?
if anyone can help me pls?
I´m not very high
THANK U
Probably cache & Other non-app related stuff.
Also, if you don't have A2SD+ (not App2SD), then some applications will be on Internal memory even after moved to the SD card.
xXx8004 said:
I have just seven apps on my desire and it say I don't have more place , what else more than app are on entire disk which I can clean for I get more place . I have desire rooted with 16gb SD card
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I am not an android expert, but you do need app2sd or data2sd to fix this.
Any 3rd party rom with those X2sd supported can let you extend your limited phone storage. I don't know the android system file structure at all but here is the general idea.
i. App2sd
This will install the apps (most of them) on your sd card, but the data, I think, still remains on your phone internal storage. Your system should be very fast as normal even with low class sd card (most of the time I think :-0 ).
ii. Data2sd
This is a little bit tricky, it requires you to format your sd card and make use of the sd card instead of your internal phone storage for the operating system. You generally get an unlimited store, it depends on how much memory you allocated for the system, also you need a higher class sd card as better.
iii. Data2sd mixed mode
This is the best solution for me . it moves almost all to the sd card but some part of the system with more i/o on the phone internal storage (actually symlinks point back to the device on sd card). This will make the system fast (faster than pure data2sd), extended the phone storage a lot, but still limited to the phone internal storage (better than app2sd though)
Again, this is just my understanding. I haven't looked into Android in depth yet, but I will one day I have enough time
You can found the ROMs and almost everything you need from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916417
Really appreciated the people who did the job there.
I have app 2 SD
I fixed partition ex2 to move the apps but I can't see ext2 partition
Must I have app2sd+ , where can download it.
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Create at least EXT3 with more than 512 MB.
You don't have the option anywhere, to move to the EXT partition, it is automatically done by the script.
To see your EXT partition you must use TI Backup (Shows only as A2SD+) or GParted.
Ok not ext2
I have tried with ex2 it doesn't work , should I have swipe ?
I will do it with Linux
Which Rom do u think is best now ?
Where can I download a2sd+ ?
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A2SD+ is not a program, it is a script. Included in the ROMs.
Look around in the Desire Android Developement Section for ROMs and pick one you like. Most of them have A2SD+.
Do some reading... rooting guides include all the information you need
I will format the SD and try to found some Rom with a2sd+
Why desire have very little memory it should be 2 or 4 gb
Thank everyone and I will be back with feedbAck
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No brainer... Data2SD !
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This has always been a problem with my desire until i found out about AlphaRev. Now i've got 166MB free internal space. My suggestion is to install AlphaRev and modify the partition tables as listed in the tutorial on alpharev.nl. I would have posted a link but i can't post links yet.
i downloaded RCMIxHD_v3.4_ROT_D2EXT_RC1 and made a parttion ext3 and now work perfect.
Thank u everybody

Moving data partition to SD card?

I found this file:
http://dinc.does-it.net/EXT4_Mods/Mount_Cache_And_Data_To_Sd_Partitions.zip
It seems like maybe it will move my data to the SD card to free up some space on internal storage. Anyone know if I'm correct about this?
What's low on space? /data/data or /emmc? In either case it won't do what you're hoping. Its only purpose is to allow you to boot a ROM when mmc storage gets corrupted. It doesn't free space anywhere. Also, I think this is a cmlusco mod.
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tiny4579 said:
What's low on space? /data/data or /emmc? In either case it won't do what you're hoping. Its only purpose is to allow you to boot a ROM when mmc storage gets corrupted. It doesn't free space anywhere. Also, I think this is a cmlusco mod.
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Fair enough.
I'm actually not low on space really but I've got all my apps installed to the emmc, which I have mounted as the SD card and I think a lot of the data for the apps may still be in the internal storage. I was hoping to swap it so the apps are installed on internal storage, like they usually are, but they read their data from emmc.
I'm not sure if that's possible but I figured I'd ask. Hopefully I was correct in my terminology; I don't really know a whole lot about android's file system.

Reg Increasing the partition size in android phones.

Hi,
Can you please help me in increasing the app partition size in HTC One VX. or share a generic procedure to increase / alter partition sizes. I don't know y HTC has part of the internal memory partitioned as sd card and just 1 GB for app space. If i use chrome, facebook, contacts the data fills up the app space. Am really enjoying the features of your ROM. But app space limitation frustrates me. Can you please help me out here ? I am pretty sure many people are in my situation.
Thanks,
Vasanth Ram.
Hey.
On my old HTC phone I would use something like Link2SD. I'm not sure if it'll still work (coz I've not found the reason for it yet), but you can still try. Do check it out.
Hope this helps.
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rohithbv said:
Hey.
On my old HTC phone I would use something like Link2SD. I'm not sure if it'll still work (coz I've not found the reason for it yet), but you can still try. Do check it out.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply. Link2SD works with external SD cards right ? I am just trying to use the internal space 8GB that is partitioned into so many partitions and getting wasted. [just 1 GB for Apps]. My idea is to unify all the partitions and have mount points for data cache etc in different directories.
manojvasanthram said:
Thanks for the reply. Link2SD works with external SD cards right ? I am just trying to use the internal space 8GB that is partitioned into so many partitions and getting wasted. [just 1 GB for Apps]. My idea is to unify all the partitions and have mount points for data cache etc in different directories.
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You can't do that unless you make modifications to the kernel *I think*. And it's better if you don't. Link2SD works just as well as an internal partition. You won't notice most of the differences.

[Q] App size in LOLLIPOP

Hi
I own a galaxy tab s 10.5 the problem is App size on my device is not appropriate for example total size of Mortal is shown "Total Size=78.82" while I've downloaded more than 1GB . Other games like Gangstar4 and WWE 2K have this issue. when I try to move these games to sd card only a few MB ( e.g. 50MB) is moved and the strange part is also the TOTAL size of app is increased a few MB. why? and how can I solve this issue?
Thanks
It is most likely showing the app size which is tiny compared to data required to play the game.
John.
Abbas_fr said:
Hi
I own a galaxy tab s 10.5 the problem is App size on my device is not appropriate for example total size of Mortal is shown "Total Size=78.82" while I've downloaded more than 1GB . Other games like Gangstar4 and WWE 2K have this issue. when I try to move these games to sd card only a few MB ( e.g. 50MB) is moved and the strange part is also the TOTAL size of app is increased a few MB. why? and how can I solve this issue?
Thanks
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
It is most likely showing the app size which is tiny compared to data required to play the game.
John.
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Thanks for replying. but actually I've downloaded the game data and I can play the game
I'm still discovering some of this myself, but here's what I've concluded so far
Android has a concept of internal data, internal sdcard and external sdcard...
In recent years, since Android 4.0 or even 3.x the internal data and internal sdcard are really sharing the same storage, here the internal 16g, using special Linux disk partitioning trixks
The "move to sdcard" button moves some of the App files (apk) to the *internal* sdcard. NOT to the external sdcard. So in terms of that precious and small internal 16gb, you don't win any at all !!
The only thing you can hope for, is that the app itself is coded to make use of the external sdcard. Theres a folder on the /ExtSdCard which is /Android/data in which each app can make one sub-folder. The sub folder there has the same technical package name as the app.
At this point I would guess that the contents (size) of this folder is not reported by the screen you showed. And that your game data is stored there.
Can you have a look with a file browser?
When moving an app only part of it can be moved, sometimes non. Usually the app can be moved. However essential data required to run the app itself is not moved. Then there is the 'extra' data which is required to play the game itself. Which either gets installed to the internal or external sd card. Sometimes this data can be moved, sometimes not, it depends what the app developer allows.
Think of it like Windows, you can choose where a program gets installed, but the essential stuff will always be installed to the windows partition and cannot be moved.
Really your game data should be showing under data or sd card data.
What you are seeing being moved is probably just the app itself.
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fred_be9300 said:
I'm still discovering some of this myself, but here's what I've concluded so far
Android has a concept of internal data, internal sdcard and external sdcard...
In recent years, since Android 4.0 or even 3.x the internal data and internal sdcard are really sharing the same storage, here the internal 16g, using special Linux disk partitioning trixks
The "move to sdcard" button moves some of the App files (apk) to the *internal* sdcard. NOT to the external sdcard. So in terms of that precious and small internal 16gb, you don't win any at all !!
The only thing you can hope for, is that the app itself is coded to make use of the external sdcard. Theres a folder on the /ExtSdCard which is /Android/data in which each app can make one sub-folder. The sub folder there has the same technical package name as the app.
At this point I would guess that the contents (size) of this folder is not reported by the screen you showed. And that your game data is stored there.
Can you have a look with a file browser?
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What he said, it all one big data partition now, so nothing actually gets moved to the ext sd card. The move to option is from the old days of having one partition for apps and data and another storage. Now data and storage share the same partition, which is good because it allows you to use the entire device storage for apps. That's why we are now stuck with mtp instead of mass storage mode.
fred_be9300 said:
The "move to sdcard" button moves some of the App files (apk) to the *internal* sdcard. NOT to the external sdcard. So in terms of that precious and small internal 16gb, you don't win any at all !!
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In terms of Samsungs implementation, this isn't the case for the app itself. The app is moved to external sd - you can prove this by unmount in your sd card - apps on SD will be greyed out as unavailable.
The real issue is that if an app has large data files that are downloaded after the app is installed usually go to internal sd, Because this is a function of the app itself, and not apps2sd.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
In terms of Samsungs implementation, this isn't the case for the app itself. The app is moved to external sd - you can prove this by unmount in your sd card - apps on SD will be greyed out as unavailable.
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Are you sure this is the case for the Tab S?
I tested this on my first day having the Tab S... When moving apps to SD
- size used internally did not decrease
- size used on external SD did not increase
- I searched for new files on external SD, could not find any.
I'm not rooted, that limits my options to look properly.
I've had apps2sd in my old HTC desire, do I'm not clueless
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fred_be9300 said:
Are you sure this is the case for the Tab S?
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Positive.
You can see this more clearly with large apps.
For example, I have Word, Excel, and Powerpoint on my Tab S, and around 500MB free.
If I move these to SD, my free internal space goes up to 874MB.
If I unmount my external SD, the apps grey out with a small "SD" icon against them, and can't be used until I remount the SD card.

Can one Install/Move apps to SD card?

Can't find any mention of this specifically. But apps be installed/moved to the SD card?
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mrcamp said:
Can't find any mention of this specifically. But apps be installed/moved to the SD card?
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Only thing i found was:
"Settings"-"ASUS-Usersettings"-"App-Insatllation"
There you can choose if you prefer internal or external storage for App-Installation. Maybe something you've been looking for
OK. Thanks for the quick response. I just ordered the US version in 16GB, so will put in a 64 GB card.
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The Apps settings menu has a "movable" list next to downloaded, running and all.
I don't have an SD card so I can't take any action on the apps listed there. But it sure looks like you'll be set.
I did this last night. I moved my apps, music, and books to a 64gb sd card. However, some apps were not able to move to the sd card. Not sure why but it said it was not allowed and these were third party apps. I used wondershare mobilego to move the apps and moved the music/books by plugging in my sd card to my pc.
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mrcamp said:
Can't find any mention of this specifically. But apps be installed/moved to the SD card?
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You need root and Link2sd Plus.Create a second partition (ext 2,3 or 4) on SD Card and you can link almost everything on that partition.But you can move/link the apps and games after you install them on phone.
Can't show screenshots ,coz i am new member ,sry.
i post hire:
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[Resolved] [ZenFone2 Bug Report] Is it possible to install apps & games directly on memory card?
you can move the movable apps to the SDcard, but everytime i format the phone or update, it seems that the apps is able to move back to the sd card again....
i am not sure why

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