Im coming from a rooted Verizon Galaxy S5 with safestrap, Im no stranger to root methods and installing custom roms. With that being said Im getting the Verizon Note 4 and have been reading and have information overload as some of the information seems old. Im just looking to root to install Titanium Back up and possibly install a stock debloated rom. I'm still on KK 4.4.
What is currently the best root method and are there any stock roms for the retail version.
Thanks for any help
None right now.
There are no good root Methods for the Note 4 on KK or no roms?
no root since the device came out sorry
Unless Im reading it wrong the Kingroot 4.5 and supersu me method will give temp root and that should be all need to do what I need to. Doesnt say its for dev edition only so we'll see.
Thanks
jrv331 said:
Unless Im reading it wrong the Kingroot 4.5 and supersu me method will give temp root and that should be all need to do what I need to. Doesnt say its for dev edition only so we'll see.
Thanks
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Titanium Backup won't work properly with temp root you can freeze apps as well using debloater it will give you the same result.
From what Im reading the Debloater by Gatesjunior is the popular method, but as long as I can disable most of the crap Im fine.
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Trying to figure out if I should root using the original method the install updated rom or do ota then root with new method. Is there a benefit either way? The one thing I was worried about was it seemed like there were issues with installing updated roms. Anyone have an opinion on which root method is easier?
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Trying to figure out if I should root using the original method the install updated rom or do ota then root with new method. Is there a benefit either way? The one thing I was worried about was it seemed like there were issues with installing updated roms. Anyone have an opinion on which root method is easier?
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Post this question in Q&A or reply to one of the root threads and ask it. This really clutters up this forum.
Also, just root then update.
Dont Update
Never do an OTA (OVER THE AIR) UPDATE....IF YOU WANT ROOT IN THE FUTURE
What you need to do is root then flash a rom that is built off of the newest update.
and BTW post threads in the right forums so next time you wont get you ass ripped
yeah sorry was just thinking it was relevant not a forum expert though will move or delete thanks for the reply
jkcpsal said:
Trying to figure out if I should root using the original method the install updated rom or do ota then root with new method. Is there a benefit either way? The one thing I was worried about was it seemed like there were issues with installing updated roms. Anyone have an opinion on which root method is easier?
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As the others said, this should be in Q&A. To go into more depth though on why you want to root then update, all of the more recent root efforts are based around flashing an earlier version of the stock rom to allow rooting. If you were to update and then root you would be going forward then backward in order to go forward again (ie. update, downgrade, root, update). Doesn't make much sense.
+1 Root then unlock nand then flash custom, no need to update, most customs are based off of newest update, as previously stated of course
Helppp!
Hi, I have a samsung galaxy note 8 LTE, which i just updated to 4.4.2.
How do I get this rooted?
-Do i follow this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
Seems like that's only confirmed for 4.2.2..
What else should I take note of? I've read things about 'Recovery' and unlocking bootloader.
-Should I do a recovery? How do I do that?
-Do I have to worry about the bootloader?
-Will I be able to get further ota updates after rooting?
Should I wait for 4.4.4 before rooting?
Thank you in advance. I've done alot of reading but I'm still paranoid and confused...
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Helppp!
Hi, I have a samsung galaxy note 8 LTE, which i just updated to 4.4.2.
How do I get this rooted?
-Do i follow this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
Seems like that's only confirmed for 4.2.2..
What else should I take note of? I've read things about 'Recovery' and unlocking bootloader.
-Should I do a recovery? How do I do that?
-Do I have to worry about the bootloader?
-Will I be able to get further ota updates after rooting?
Should I wait for 4.4.4 before rooting?
Thank you in advance. I've done alot of reading but I'm still paranoid and confused...
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I have all of these questions!
There's so much information in these forums, and it's very confusing.
I simply can't find a guide for how to get from Kit-kat on the Note 8 to rooted and with civato's ROM (would love some increased pen accuracy).
Any help would really be appreciated!
pandabamboo said:
Helppp!
Hi, I have a samsung galaxy note 8 LTE, which i just updated to 4.4.2.
How do I get this rooted?
-Do i follow this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
Seems like that's only confirmed for 4.2.2..
What else should I take note of? I've read things about 'Recovery' and unlocking bootloader.
-Should I do a recovery? How do I do that?
-Do I have to worry about the bootloader?
-Will I be able to get further ota updates after rooting?
Should I wait for 4.4.4 before rooting?
Thank you in advance. I've done alot of reading but I'm still paranoid and confused...
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I don't have a 5120 but everything I have read confirms that CF Autoroot works without issue on that device. Just make sure after boot up you install SuperSU, update binary, and set it to apply upon system boot. If it doesn't work the first time keep trying. As a warning....this root method will trip Knox and void your warranty. Can follow the steps HERE to root.
You will want to install a custom recovery to flash roms (PhilZ or TWRP). However, changing the recovery, bootloader, etc. will prevent you from taking OTA updates. This is not such a bad thing because you never know if a new OTA will destroy root and lock the device. It is better to let the devs modify it first and then flash it safely. Usually only takes a day or so for devs to do this.
As for changing the bootloader, it depends on the rom you flash. Some will be fine running from older bootloader and some require the KK bootloader. Just check the first post of the rom and it should give you the requirements.
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jwdink said:
I have all of these questions!
There's so much information in these forums, and it's very confusing.
I simply can't find a guide for how to get from Kit-kat on the Note 8 to rooted and with civato's ROM (would love some increased pen accuracy).
Any help would really be appreciated!
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You can use CF Autoroot to obtain root and then install custom recovery via Odin as well. Then you can flash whatever rom you want.
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As a warning....this root method will trip Knox and void your warranty. Can follow the steps HERE to root.
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Thanks CCallahan. Do you know of any method that will not trip Knox?
You can use CF Autoroot to obtain root and then install custom recovery via Odin as well. Then you can flash whatever rom you want.
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I just wasn't sure on the details of these steps, and wasn't sure where to find more detail. I think I've figured it out now.
First I'd follow these steps: http://www.theandroidsoul.com/samsu...n5100-wifi-philz-touch-advanced-cwm-recovery/
Then, I'd use philz to install the custom kernel (edit: and ROM). I haven't been able to find any step-by-step instructions, however. But these seem close enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDOY3Oi1VX8
Does this all sound correct?
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Thanks CCallahan. Do you know of any method that will not trip Knox?
I just wasn't sure on the details of these steps, and wasn't sure where to find more detail. I think I've figured it out now.
First I'd follow these steps: http://www.theandroidsoul.com/samsu...n5100-wifi-philz-touch-advanced-cwm-recovery/
Then, I'd use philz to install the custom kernel. I haven't been able to find any step-by-step instructions, however. But these seem close enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDOY3Oi1VX8
Does this all sound correct?
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I do not know of any root method compatible with the N8 that will not trip Knox. Towelroot is not compatible otherwise it would be an obvious choice.
Yes...looks like that walkthrough will work fine for installing PhilZ.
Why are you installing a custom kernel? Are you sticking with the stock rom or flashing a custom one? A lot of roms already come with the kernel packaged.
CCallahan said:
I do not know of any root method compatible with the N8 that will not trip Knox. Towelroot is not compatible otherwise it would be an obvious choice.
Yes...looks like that walkthrough will work fine for installing PhilZ.
Why are you installing a custom kernel? Are you sticking with the stock rom or flashing a custom one? A lot of roms already come with the kernel packaged.
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I'm installing a custom ROM & Kernel because the accuracy of the pen is not very good on my device, and I primarily brought it for note taking. My understanding is that civato's ROM/kernel will fix this (hopefully!).
But I didn't mean to imply that I'm only installing a custom kernel but keeping the stock ROM. I was planning on doing both, as described in civato's kernel+ROM release thread.
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I'm installing a custom ROM & Kernel because the accuracy of the pen is not very good on my device, and I primarily brought it for note taking. My understanding is that civato's ROM/kernel will fix this (hopefully!).
But I didn't mean to imply that I'm only installing a custom kernel but keeping the stock ROM. I was planning on doing both, as described in civato's kernel+ROM release thread.
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Ah ok....after you get PhilZ on there just flash civato's rom and you will be good to go.
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CCallahan said:
I don't have a 5120 but everything I have read confirms that CF Autoroot works without issue on that device. Just make sure after boot up you install SuperSU, update binary, and set it to apply upon system boot. If it doesn't work the first time keep trying. As a warning....this root method will trip Knox and void your warranty. Can follow the steps HERE to root.
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Hi CCallahan,
Would you please confirm whether the method described in the link you mentioned to root Galaxy note 8.0 GT-N5120 running android 4.4.2 would work on note 8.0 i467m (LTE canadian version) running on 4.4.2?
beniboy86 said:
Hi CCallahan,
Would you please confirm whether the method described in the link you mentioned to root Galaxy note 8.0 GT-N5120 running android 4.4.2 would work on note 8.0 i467m (LTE canadian version) running on 4.4.2?
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The procedure is the same but you want to go and download the CF AutoRoot for your device here: http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
Your device is on the list so is compatible. There are also some basic instructions listed for how to root.
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The procedure is the same but you want to go and download the CF AutoRoot for your device here:
Your device is on the list so is compatible. There are also some basic instructions listed for how to root.
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Thanks for your response. I have only one corcern left. In the link you posted, on top of the table of CF-Auto-root, it mentions that if the bootloader is locked this might brick the device! How can I make sure that my bootloader is unlocked prior to start rooting.
Previuosly, I had my note 8 rooted with CF auto root via odine when it was on jelly bean 4.1.2. Does this mean that it is safe to root it again with new CF auto root for 4.4.2?
It's just a warning pal I rooted fine from 4.4.2 with chainfire autorotate it's just a precaution before proceeding as with any flashing procedure it contains a risk of bricking
Sent from my GT-I9505
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Thanks for your response. I have only one corcern left. In the link you posted, on top of the table of CF-Auto-root, it mentions that if the bootloader is locked this might brick the device! How can I make sure that my bootloader is unlocked prior to start rooting.
Previuosly, I had my note 8 rooted with CF auto root via odine when it was on jelly bean 4.1.2. Does this mean that it is safe to root it again with new CF auto root for 4.4.2?
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How did you update to 4.4.2? Rom flash or OTA? Did you manually update the bootloader?
As far as I know Samsung doesn't usually lock bootloaders unless it is carrier dictated. It is usually common on HTC and Moto devices.
Better to be safe than sorry though.
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CCallahan said:
How did you update to 4.4.2? Rom flash or OTA? Did you manually update the bootloader?
As far as I know Samsung doesn't usually lock bootloaders unless it is carrier dictated. It is usually common on HTC and Moto devices.
Better to be safe than sorry though.
Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
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I updated to 4.4.2 via Kies with samsung's released firmware. I havent done any other flashing apart from this. So, I suppose rooting must be fine, right?
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I updated to 4.4.2 via Kies with samsung's released firmware. I havent done any other flashing apart from this. So, I suppose rooting must be fine, right?
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Sorry but I can't/won't confirm whether or not that particular model is safe to root after 4.4.2 upgrade. Maybe someone with more knowledge on that version can chime in. I wouldn't think it would be an issue but don't want to steer you wrong. The bootloader could be locked.
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Sorry but I can't/won't confirm whether or not that particular model is safe to root after 4.4.2 upgrade. Maybe someone with more knowledge on that version can chime in. I wouldn't think it would be an issue but don't want to steer you wrong. The bootloader could be locked.
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thanks, I will dig in more on this and will post here if I find something useful.
So far I've had only Samsung phones, which were rooted by flashing a zip file through the built-in recovery (containing signed SuperSU).
Now I have a 2013 Nexus 7 and I'm looking at the rooting guides and I see bootloader unlocking, flashing custom recoveries and a lot of other things which personally confuse the hell out of me as to why are they needed.
So I wanted to ask if there is a way to just flash a zip file with the SuperSU (and buzybox) app like how it's done on the Samsung phones? Or if there is a method that doesn't require replacing the stock recovery / flashing ROM components?
If anything its easier than any Samsung device but the thing is don't Root if it confuses you at least until you understand how to do it there is tons of guides online
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If anything its easier than any Samsung device but the thing is don't Root if it confuses you at least until you understand how to do it there is tons of guides online
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That's kind'a my question, it's not that I don't know how, I just don't get if all the side-stuff in 90% of the guides is actually needed, so I asked if there is a way to just get SuperSU working without any custom-recoveries or other side-things.
To my knowledge, you need to have a custom recovery to root it. Unlocking the bootloader helps with this, as it ensures recovery and root sticks.
Or, just use the Wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit to unlock and root.
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That's kind'a my question, it's not that I don't know how, I just don't get if all the side-stuff in 90% of the guides is actually needed, so I asked if there is a way to just get SuperSU working without any custom-recoveries or other side-things.
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I was in the exact same position as you four days ago, up until then the only android devices I had owned were the Samsung Galaxy S2 and S4. It is quite different to the rooting process on the samsung devices but just as you did with the Samsung devices you will learn as you go along. My bootloader is unlocked, rooted with a custom rom and it was pretty easy to do
CrisR82 said:
That's kind'a my question, it's not that I don't know how, I just don't get if all the side-stuff in 90% of the guides is actually needed, so I asked if there is a way to just get SuperSU working without any custom-recoveries or other side-things.
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A sideload would only be needed if you didn't dump SuperSU on the phone first.
Unlock bootloader
Flash TWRP
Flash SuperSU
Done
Get wugfresh's nexus root toolkit. It's made for the novice in all of us.... Works great, self updates, awesome help section.. Look into it.. It's made specifically for the nexus line of products
Thanks for the replies guys, but noone seems to say what is the minimum that neds to be done for rooting.
I'll re-ask my question in a different way:
When rooting, does the bootloader always have to be unlocked and a custom recovery always needed to be installed?
CrisR82 said:
Thanks for the replies guys, but noone seems to say what is the minimum that neds to be done for rooting.
I'll re-ask my question in a different way:
When rooting, does the bootloader always have to be unlocked and a custom recovery always needed to be installed?
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Bootloader needs to be be unlocked, but can be relocked after rooting
AFAIK, you can use stock recovery, but custom offers better options/control over the situation. Most roms/kernels are flashed via twrp or cwm..... You can flash through rom toolbox if you choose to stay stock recovery
You can use Towel root to root your tablet in about 30 seconds. It'll also unlock your bootloader for you.
Cousin recovery is only needed of you intend to flash kernels and Roms and the like. If, like me, you only want root for installing things like xposed then you don't need to bother with one.
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CrisR82 said:
Thanks for the replies guys, but noone seems to say what is the minimum that neds to be done for rooting.
I'll re-ask my question in a different way:
When rooting, does the bootloader always have to be unlocked and a custom recovery always needed to be installed?
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Yes, all the steps that are listed are required for rooting your Nexus. I understand what you are asking and I was also hesitant at first, but it was super easy to root and I didnt use the WugFresh took kit I manually rooted mine, following Zedomaxs Video tutorial, that way I could stop and Pause it at every step to make sure things were happening as they should here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1cD-JXRGX8
I confirm towelroot works on the 2013 nexus 7. After rooting unlock bootloader with app from google play. This method does not wipe user data or need a computer at all. And if root is lost and the towelroot exploit is patched with the next os update you can reroot the old way.
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In the ever changing market of roots and exploits I believe it would be nice to have a device specific rooting "poll". the other reason I'm starting this thread is because I can't seem to root my phone tried towelroot but it says my device is not supported. Im running stock 4.2.2 and I want to root mainly so I can back everything up before I custom install stock 4.4.2
Towelroot works for 4.4
Being on 4.2.2 you could try the Safe-Root method depending on your actual Firmware. Otherwise you have to stick to rooting through CWM.
All methods have their threads here. Please read them.
You could also backup your data with adb without root and after update restore this adb backup to your device. So there's no need to root before installing custom 4.4.2
CWM all day! so fast and easy to do plus it's easy to unroot.
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CWM all day! so fast and easy to do plus it's easy to unroot.
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how exactly? I know I need to flash smth but I dont know which file it is and such. could I have a link to the proper page please?
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how exactly? I know I need to flash smth but I dont know which file it is and such. could I have a link to the proper page please?
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http://www.s4miniarchive.com/search/label/Root Find your model version and read the instructions, you won't regret it.
4.2.2 can be rooted using Kingo. Doesn't trip knox.
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As per title I'm stuck with T-Mobile on the Android KitKat 4.4.2 version. I have root, TWRP, Bootloader is unlocked, and I know how to use backup apps such as Titanium.(thank you guides)
What I'm trying to do is upgrade to the latest version of stock Android without losing root, apps and TWRP. Is there a way to do something like this?
Sorry if this is a newbie question. Thanks to anyone who helps me out in advanced!
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As per title I'm stuck with T-Mobile on the Android KitKat 4.4.2 version. I have root, TWRP, Bootloader is unlocked, and I know how to use backup apps such as Titanium.(thank you guides)
What I'm trying to do is upgrade to the latest version of stock Android without losing root, apps and TWRP. Is there a way to do something like this?
Sorry if this is a newbie question. Thanks to anyone who helps me out in advanced!
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yes it's very easy if you already have root and twrp. Download the latest updated rom you want and flash the bootstrap 1st then the rom. There's roms that already have root access so it's even easier
I have a very vague understanding how any of this works. I managed to get this far thanks to everyone who helped make the tutorials I used to make it to were I am now.
What exactly is a bootstrap?
Same for the ROM Would it be easier to aquire an OTA with root so I wouldn't have to go through all the time and effort that Titanium backups take? Or would I still lose all my apps? I'm trying to do this the as hassle free as possible. If the OTA suggestion is not an option, where would I find a rooted stock Android Marshmallow ROM(if such exists)? Or would I not be able to jump from KK to MM?..
Thanks for your reply! and again sorry for being a complete script kiddie
shagggggggy said:
I have a very vague understanding how any of this works. I managed to get this far thanks to everyone who helped make the tutorials I used to make it to were I am now.
What exactly is a bootstrap?
Same for the ROM Would it be easier to aquire an OTA with root so I wouldn't have to go through all the time and effort that Titanium backups take? Or would I still lose all my apps? I'm trying to do this the as hassle free as possible. If the OTA suggestion is not an option, where would I find a rooted stock Android Marshmallow ROM(if such exists)? Or would I not be able to jump from KK to MM?..
Thanks for your reply! and again sorry for being a complete script kiddie
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pm me and I will help you step by step