HI All
I want to ask something I have lg g3 now I love taking photography photos but I want from all of you to help me
Im between 2 choice : 1- buying LG G4
2- Buying canon 600D camera
please help me !
is LG G4 camera have limited specs to take different type of photography photo because as every one know that DSLR Cameras can change lens as you want so please every body use lg g4 manual camera mode help me
It would depend on what you are intentions are.
If I was going somewhere where I knew I wanted to take photographs, I'd bring my DSLR, no questions asked. Physical size of sensor, quality of sensor, quality of lenses, size of lenses are all superior to an DSLR. Of course the LG G4 is also much cheaper, for the price of an LG G4 I couldn't even buy one of the lenses I own.
I see the camera of the LG G4 more as something oh crap I want to capture this moment now. But even using RAW the image quality is no where near as good as my DSLR.
The G4's camera is very good for a phone camera. But it is not as good as a DSLR, or even a nice point-and-shoot camera, in terms of flexibility.
Two simple examples of why:
- No optical zoom.
- It's a fixed-aperture lens.
If you cannot get closer to your subject, too bad, without having a zoom lens.
And if you want to change your depth-of-field, or do something like use a longer exposure time in bright lighting, you can't, due to the fixed-aperture of the lens.
Adjusting your shutter speed and aperture are two fundamentals of setting your exposure, but phone cameras only allow control over shutter speed. And the ISO range only goes so far high or low, then you reach the limit of your shutter speed adjustment.
The G4's manual mode offers more control than most phones, which is great. But if you want to set either the ISO or the shutter speed, then you have to take complete control over the exposure. You cannot select a shutter speed, and then have the phone automatically set an appropriate ISO value. You need to select both values yourself.
If you want to learn about photography, and have a more-versatile camera, I would go with the DSLR, or some standalone camera. If you just want a better camera in your pocket, vs the G3, yes, the G4 would do that. But as much as I like my G4's camera, my Nikon P7700 lets me do much more, and a DSLR would be even better. The G4 is not a substitute for a "real" camera, IMO.
You already got a g3? For gods sake, buy the dslr!
If your G3 is working fine and you know you're going out to take photos buy the DSLR without a doubt.
The G4 takes spectacular photos for a phone, but it's just a phone. You get the flexibility of having a smartphone with an excellent camera. If you post-process you can shoot and save in RAW as well.
I'm not a photographer so the G4 is more than I expected. There's a thread with sample pictures we have all taken and shared if you want to check that thread out and get an idea of what kind of quality you'll be getting by upgrading to the G4.
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here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-picture-samples-t3099772
I posted some pictures of our cat. Couldn't be happier.
If your main reason is photography, buy a DLSR. The photo quality of the G4 is the best for smartphone's at the moment of writing but DLSR camera's are far better. Like @RedOCtobyr mentioned the LG G4 has no optical zoom and has a fixed aperture. This won't allow you to change the size of the diafragma nor zooming in on objects (digital zoom is - and most likely will always be - crappy). If your main reason is taking pictures just whenever you want to you should probably choose for the G4 though because most likely you will always have your mobile phone in your pocket opposed to an DLSR which requires an additional bag.
Personally I would choose the DLSR in both cases though (I had a LG G3 before my G4 but I lost it so I had to get a new one) because the G3 also can take some nice pictures which are more than average.
Sorry if my English isn't correct, I am from the Netherlands
Get the G4 and carry one of these in your back pocket.
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The camera quality is very low.
Anyone know software or procedure to improve quality ?
What do you mean, by very low? I find it quite okay for a 3.15 mp. It's not like the 5mp of the diamond 2, or those on nokia phones, but you don't buy a touch pro 2 for the camera, you know?
The only bad photos I've seen from the TP2 are when there's low lighting--the picture gets noise, distortions. Maybe if you posted one of yours and explained how you wanted it improved someone could give you some tips. Otherwise I'd recommend trying some shots in good lighting and see if you get better results.
I've never seen anyone demonstrate the 3.2mp camera of the TP2 has noticeably worse quality than the 5mp camera on D2 with side-by-sides taken under the same conditions. For the sake of people for whom picture quality is important, you'd think some blog would've given that a shot.
There is a good comparison with the HD here (you all would have seen this anyway).
I found if you change the Quality to Super Fine and increase the Sharpness to +5 under Image Properties you will squeeze a little more out of it.
Under poor lighting, you can try and tilt the device around and watch the screen while the lens gains and loses light exposure. Sometimes a small adjustment in camera angle makes all the difference.
Still auto focus and macro functionality is so much better than my Trinity.
It is what is is but I find it pretty good.
Check out the two images attached that I took on the weekend, for a phone cam it's not bad. Definitely better than the majority of 5MP phone cams out there (they pretty much all have the same rubbish sensor anyway.) These were taken with all the settings on standard (didn't know there was a super fine lol)
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There is a good comparison with the HD here (you all would have seen this anyway).
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I'm amazed at the amount of noise in those TP2 shots, even the outdoor ones. That's not something I've seen in other outdoor shots from the TP2.
There are a number of reasons why the quality is bad on the Pro 2 which I am trying to work out.
1) You cannot change the capture format from JPEG, this means that JPEG compression is noticeably visible. There must be a way to change this otherwise they would not show this option
2) Metering mode algorithms - They suck! simple as that. My Sony Ericsson W800i was better at taking photos than this.
3) Sharpness - you have to play around with it as I have a feeling you either need less of it or more.
4) Resolution - I learnt from my previous phone LG Viewty (5MP) that not always the largest resolution is the best to use on all occasions. So I advise testing out the same shots but in different resolutions, I stuck with 1MP.
I think the camera has potential but the algorithms on the cam driver doesn't perform well enough for such a high end device.
How to compensate for noisy and grainy photos:
Install Noiseware for Windows
Reduce your photo like you should be doing anyway to about 50% of it's original size.
What I do is import my photos into photoshop automatically when the device is connected and I use an action to reduce all the photos in batch processes, then if I want to I'll use Noiseware to reduce some of the noise out from the photo. (Free version you have to do that manually not in PS)
Windows Mobile has Windows Update so I am pretty sure that when Windows 6.5 is officially released there will be some form of a firmware upgrade or service pack that will improve the camera quality, if not then I'm sure the cam driver is accessible for us to edit. Most likely the algorithms would be in hexadecimal format.
I honestly dont think its bad at all, but then personally I didnt buy it with the camera as one of the reasons, but for facebook etc its pretty damn good for the MP.
It is afterall a business device not a SLR.
haha it's a camera phone. The photos are supposed to be shoddy.
Those shots were taken absolutely stock with no tweaking, they are noisy, because it is a phone with a camera unit smaller than a 10p piece and a lense which is minute. They are nowhere near as noisy as in that comparison review posted and so I question the authors ability.
If you buy a phone for a camera then I really do pity you as at best the results are always going to be shocking, i.e the best camera phone is pretty much on par with the average £50 digital camera.
Can we get more users posting some test images?
Im currently deciding on a new phone and this has been on my mind, those comparison shots are pretty shoddy >< dazkeirle loo fine though
Tip: remove back cover and make sure the lense is clean!
Could it be register related?
If so, i took a peek at my registery value for the camera in:
HKLM>Drivers>BuiltIn>Camera>
My sensor type says 4100. Maybe there a different types ?
Maybe it's nothing, maybe it is.
Hi guys! I don't know if someone already post something about...
I'm quite expert in photography, i got a good experience in serveral years of photoshots with my canon 350D and later Canon 40D, so i would like to espose a technical issue of the nexus camera.
You maybe need some skill in photography to understand all, i assume you know the basis.
I notice that nexus camera shot photos ONLY at f/2.8, that is also the maximum aperture of the lens. For those who knows the general rules of photography this just sound not good.
Maximum aperture (our case F/2.8) is needed when you shot with low light situation, but for other situation, in daylight, shot at f 2.8 reduce the depth of field and also the sharpness of the detail in picture, because the lens works better when you close the aperture to an high numer ( f 4 or f 5.6). This more closed aperture would be better for ALL picture you take in daylight, results as more detailed picture and a general better sharpness.
I do some test for understand how the camera work, but there is no situations where the camera shots at different aperture... if you take a photo with strong sun light (at 12.00 ) camera take f 2.8 aperture and, for not burn the light, 1/3400" time !!!!!! like you take photo at F1 cars in action !!
Obviusly, if you shot a landscape you don't need a SO FAST time (landscape did't move ) but you need a close aperture for obtain a better picture!
i hope it's clear (sorry for english....)
Now, what we can do? can the camera shot at more close aperture? or it's an hardware limit? (it would be strange however...)
maybe we can tell google to take a look at this "problem"
You're forgetting something, the 'lense' is most probably an f/2.8 prime, it's not going to have aperture blades so it can't possibly change f/stop.
The only thing we could change if there were manual settings are ISO and shutter speed.
After having a play for five minutes it looks to me like the Nexus has a prime aperture of f/2.8, a maximum shutter speed of ~1/3400th of a second and 1/17th of a second is the slowest. The ISO ranges from 50 to 650.
It's pretty crappy, I'd love to have manual ISO and shutter speed controls, it would make cell phone cameras much more interesting to use for sure.
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Let me just say one thing:
ITS A PHONE
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Kalavere said:
You're forgetting something, the 'lense' is most probably an f/2.8 prime, it's not going to have aperture blades so it can't possibly change f/stop.
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ok understand, i was thinking that is present an electronic shutter that is able to "simulate" the change of aperture..
so we must take this as fix aperture... and so it's not possible to have feature for manual speed control, you risk to get under or over exposure... maybe it could be sync with iso, but i don't think we get a good results...
There are no moving parts in the camera lens, so no zoom or aperture control. The aperture is fixed, so therefore the only control we have is shutter and ISO. Sadly this means the DoF is fixed for any given focal distance.
However, f/2.8 is not so bad as it sounds. The DoF is related to the aperture size and the focal length of the lens (hence the f/x in the aperture - f is the focal length!).
Because the lens on your phone is tiny and mounted very close to the camera sensor, the focal length of the lens is also very small, particularly when compared to an SLR camera where the lens is mounted some distance away from the sensor, so has a much larger focal length.
The result is, an aperture of f/2.8 on a phone camera will have similar DoF to a lens on your SLR at around f/8 to f/11 i.e. around the mid range. Also, because the lens if effectively a prime lens with fixed aperture, they can optimise the lens for those parameters, so you have less compromise than you would have on a typical zoom lens for your SLR.
One thing to always remember though, is that its a phone first and a camera second. You shouldn't expect SLR performance from a phone! There are other camera apps out there than can give you a bit more manual control than the standard app, but you'll never be able to control the aperture! With the standard camera, you can however adjust the brightness level by +/-3 EV in 1 EV steps - tap the settings icon, then the +/- icon, then you can set the exposure compensation level.
Fixed aperture. Can't change it. Very small focal length means wide DOF.
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ok understand, i was thinking that is present an electronic shutter that is able to "simulate" the change of aperture..
so we must take this as fix aperture... and so it's not possible to have feature for manual speed control, you risk to get under or over exposure... maybe it could be sync with iso, but i don't think we get a good results...
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It's not possible to simulate a change of aperture, you'd need blades to do it. It's just a feeble 3.43mm f/2.8 prime. You'd end up with a hulk of a phone if you tried to introduce aperture blades to the little CMOS. I don't even think it would be possible on such a small sensor.
Kalavere said:
You're forgetting something, the 'lense' is most probably an f/2.8 prime, it's not going to have aperture blades so it can't possibly change f/stop.
The only thing we could change if there were manual settings are ISO and shutter speed.
After having a play for five minutes it looks to me like the Nexus has a prime aperture of f/2.8, a maximum shutter speed of ~1/3400th of a second and 1/17th of a second is the slowest. The ISO ranges from 50 to 650.
It's pretty crappy, I'd love to have manual ISO and shutter speed controls, it would make cell phone cameras much more interesting to use for sure.
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I agree. That would be great!!
Hello Gliders,
what do you think about photo quality with Captivate Glide?
I have to say I'm barely satisfied with it. Pictures taken with it are good, but they totally can't win a comparison with those taken with my old phone (a Nokia N97 mini with a 5 MP camera).
You'll find two photos attached just to notice the difference (and I can totally assure that difference is way more evident in daylight photos.. Nokia, sadly, rocks.) The first pic is taken with Glide (Camera FX is the app), the second one with Nokia.
Glide
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Did you experience the same?
Are you satisfied with your camera photo quality?
Any fix or app or tool or anything to improve photo quality?
Google and xda weren't my friend this time.
try it with the default app. i have found a lot of 3rd party camera apps do not take as good of pics as the default camera. a lot of them crop and enlarge a photo that the camera is more than capable of taking at native resolution.
If you ask me the glide is bad at close ups but if you take a pic of like a mountain ut does great but you could make sure in the settings that the resloloution is set to its highest mine has changed on me before
sent from my captivate glide
I think there is something wrong with your camera, maybe its dirty or something, for my part i am very pleased with the quality of the glide's camera, here's some examples:
Gab1288 said:
I think there is something wrong with your camera, maybe its dirty or something, for my part i am very pleased with the quality of the glide's camera, here's some examples:
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I have to admit, your pics are very good. I don't get the same quality.
Are they taken with the native app?
Any suggestion about what I could do to improve mine?
I have inception v2 rom and those pictures were taken with the stock camera app. As for advices, always touch to focus before taking a picture, make sure the lens is clean and most important of all, don't shake while taking the shot. But you may be unlucky, all the digializers are not made equal and on a small one like that, the tolerance is pretty big, or maybe I got lucky with mine. But your picture looks more unfocused than grainy (little coloured dots), so I think your digitalizer is fine. Try touch to focus and stay really steady. Sorry for bad engish
I was using Camera Zoom FX for a while too. I bought the app when the Google Market was having their 10 cent app specials. After a while I noticed that the pictures were always out of focus and appeared grainy and it was very difficult to get a nice clear photo. Later on I decided to try going back to the stock camera app (I am using Osimood) and noticed a huge difference in the quality of the photos. At the very least I found that it was easier to take good clear photos with the stock camera app. Once in a while the photos from Camera Zoom FX would look good but it usually took me quite a few tries before I got the picture that I was satisfied with. If I get a chance I will post two different pictures for you to see.
I'll try, but I don't think I'll get pics as good as yours. Let's see.
Thank you )
this one was taken with my glide. i think the phone has an excellent camera. i have found that many, if not all of the 3rd party camera apps all come out blurry. mainly because they take a photo at a certain resolution and enlarge it. check your resolution on camerafx.
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Samsung Galaxy S7 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The front facing camera is permanently fixated on things in the background while things (faces) at selfie distances are out of focus. This defeats the purpose of the front facing camera. It doesn't seem to adjust its focus ever...
However, I do like the raise your hand or say cheese to take a picture function.
Noticed the same thing, pictures on face are a blurry mess compared to my s6.
Yep noticed too, and I even made a comparison with the S6, which resulted sharper..
I have an S7 and my wife has the S7 edge and the front camera is the best we ever had.
my sister was complaining the same thing but it thought she was being nit picky as she just switched form Apple but i guess it might be a known issue then.
Front camera is totaly out of focus! Has anyone else noticed that? A flagship phone shall never have such low level defect!
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Front camera is totaly out of focus! Has anyone else noticed that? A flagship phone shall never have such low level defect!
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Welcome to the party, check out the S7 camera thread and you will see that many have this issue.
The front camera is utilising the center focus mode. Mine is working great. Sharps selfies and lots of details. Look at the eyes and the baby's shirt that is in focus. Tey are sharp and clear.
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Not impressed, blurry snapshots.
took this one today with my front camera I'm very satisfied with its quality
extremely disappointed with the front facing camera. very blurry selfies.
blurry and feels like the beauty filter is on eventhough its off.
my s6 was way more realistic.
Camera too wide inducing unwanted distortion and even with all the beauty feature turned off, image still look very paint like.
I'm interested by this topic. Any sample? The picture above is not really sharp. I hesitate with the One Plus 3.
Thanks
Relayers said:
I have an S7 and my wife has the S7 edge and the front camera is the best we ever had.
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you havent tried other phones have you
I've created a thread on Samsung forum regarding this. Front camera has fixed focus to infinity instead of 40-50cm and software libs apply a crazy blur on faces and skin tones especially when iso goes up. It's incredible, I use screenshot of viewfinder to have a better picture than the shooted one!
oile said:
I've created a thread on Samsung forum regarding this. Front camera has fixed focus to infinity instead of 40-50cm and software libs apply a crazy blur on faces and skin tones especially when iso goes up. It's incredible, I use screenshot of viewfinder to have a better picture than the shooted one!
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Link please? :fingers-crossed:
a lot of distorsions. I hate wide angle cameras.
S7 offer poor unrealistic selfie ..Best selfie which i had was with Htc one m8 and M9
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Asus ZenFone 3 Zoom come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Certainly not as good as iPhone or Pixel. But for a budget phone, this is hard to beat. Portrait mode doesn't always blur the correct areas. Auto mode definitely is noisy and when you zoom in, often a lot of definition is lost.
But despite this, this camera is much better than many other phones. You will not hate this camera. It may not be the best you ever use either though.
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Certainly not as good as iPhone or Pixel. But for a budget phone, this is hard to beat. Portrait mode doesn't always blur the correct areas. Auto mode definitely is noisy and when you zoom in, often a lot of definition is lost.
But despite this, this camera is much better than many other phones. You will not hate this camera. It may not be the best you ever use either though.
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Pretty much on the dot... For it price, I don't think you will get any better. For the manual mode, I believe it will beat phone out of this price range as well.
I am having some ptoblems when i try to review photos by native camera App.
Many times the last picture comes above the previews one.
Does anybody having same problem?
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Does anybody having same problem?
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Have same issue.
I like it with Nougat
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Anyone have latest asus pixel master apk for zenfone 3 zoom?
I'm really liking the phone - my only criticism would be that I find indoor pictures are too "warm" (yellow) but I suppose I'll need to learn how to play with manual mode for that. My previous phone handled indoors much better (Moto X Play, not known for its camera).
koimr said:
I'm really liking the phone - my only criticism would be that I find indoor pictures are too "warm" (yellow) but I suppose I'll need to learn how to play with manual mode for that. My previous phone handled indoors much better (Moto X Play, not known for its camera).
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You can go into manual mode and adjust the white balance.
A camera with potential.
I love the camera in this phone.
Hardware wise it has same or in some cases greater abilities than galaxy s7 edge or iphone 7 plus.
The real problem I see here is software. It doesn't do justice with the hardware. Auto mode is rubbish.
But and the but is pretty BIG.
If you know your manual mode. You can do miracles with this phone.
(Remove space from link to access it.... I am not allowed to add outside links yet.... Sorry for that.)
And for the selfie camera and portrait images I would suggest you to use google camera port drive. google.com/open?id=1IEf-BZQdk_SH3WVG3aev05pdiRpVqW68