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Returning mine.

I got my SGx2 yesterday but I am sending it back. Here are a few things that I found that some may find helpful;
1) Screen resolution is simply too low for this large of a display. Many apps were grainy due to stretching, web pages were difficult to read and did not zoom correctly. Buttons and UI elements were comically large. I think the engineer had a sight problem.
2) Tethering did not work - Mind that I do not have the tethering option on my plan, and yes I know there are work arounds however coming from a nexus s I am spoiled. It simply forces your browser to a t mobile page to upgrade your account.
3) I heard several people say don't knock Touchwiz 4 until you try it, well I tried it and didn't like it. Very fisher price feeling, too cartoony for my tastes. I had to install launcher pro as soon as i could.
4) There was so much bloatware on this device. There were at least 15 apps that I would never use.
Good Stuff
1) Even though the screen resolution is crap, it still is a pretty screen, very bright and vibrant.
2) Data is fast, very very fast. This will be what I miss most going back to my nexus s. I was getting 13MB down in Milwaukee.
3) Fast, can't knock the performance. The first non-stock android experience i have had that didn't have any lag. I would love to see a stock android build run on this thing.
I hope this helps answer any questions for potential buyers. Feel free to ask anything I may have missed.

I've got a nexus s and I have been debating getting the sgs2. I love my nexus and personally like Samsung phones...only thing holding me back is waiting to see if the prime makes it to T-Mobile sometime. I don't wanna be waiting for ICS and I know the nexus s will get it. I'm also debating the amaze, but as I said, I like Samsung better then htc
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OP what device did you come from and are you going to the IP4S?

i was going to buy this phone on launch date, but i think i will also wait this one out, and see whats coming out in the next few months. nexus one still does what i need it to do.

I use a Nexus S. I do have an IP4S on order, but my Nexus will still remain my primary device. I am the sysadmin for alot of organizations that use the google apps eco system. For that Android will always be my primary.

What did you expect going from pure android to masked android . I'm waiting on this phone for the annoucement next week and to see if Cyanogen supports it. I'm assuming they will because they supported the Vibrant and it sucked.

wondercoolguy said:
What did you expect going from pure android to masked android . I'm waiting on this phone for the annoucement next week and to see if Cyanogen supports it. I'm assuming they will because they supported the Vibrant and it sucked.
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This is precisely why I have been with my nexus this long, and my original droid before that. Unfortunately I was convinced by all of the professional reviewers that this unit was somehow different. It's no harm no foul, im only out the $12 for the overnight shipping

tru.dat I'm currently using Nexus One and have been since the day it came out. It's just time and Hercules w/ Cyanogen or the Galaxy Nexus is the perfect device to give it up. If I do get a hercules then I'm gonna throw launcher pro ASAP I hate touchwiz and I've seen 4.0 on Epic touch just lame

Just walked into the store and played with the gs2. I can't justify spending 600 on it when my nexus works just as well, nothing that special
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If you have a pure google phone stay away from it. Not a real reason to upgrade. T-mobile wants you to pay for tethering mytouch 4g tethering didn't work outside the box either. Touchwiz makes everything look big use a different launcher like adw ex , go launcher, or launcher pro. to adjust rows and columns. Once root comes change the density of the phone to make everything look better also uninstall the battery draining bloatware. The nexus prime will be nice with its 720p display but for one doesn't have a sd card. Apps will be even more incompatible with the screen look at certain games on the sensation. Ice cream sandwich source will drop meaning it will reach all rooted phones within a month or two. The only benefit you get is straight google updates. Unless you want touchwiz with icecream you'll be running cm 8 or miui.

Like mentioned here, waiting to see how XDA devs support for it, CM7, and other love from developers.
I was lucky to at least have devices with XDA Support. Blind luck. I'm sure it will get it. It better lol

Posting from this phone and i can say this phone is blazing fast!!!
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I think a handful of people doing an upgrade or buying retail will be let down. If your coming from a sensation or a Nexus S than I could see why. This is not a god phone and although it comes with some goodies. Some might think it's not that big of a step up. Personally the screen alone makes the other phones pale in comparison.
People getting new contracts will most likely be happy with this phone. I don't see any other on tmobile at the moment that I would sign a two year contract on.
The people that did get the phone and return it. Did you notice any GPS issues with yours?

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but for one doesn't have a sd card. .
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How do you know that for sure....

Jjday7 said:
The people that did get the phone and return it. Did you notice any GPS issues with yours?
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I didn't use it long enough to test GPS sorry. I did turn it on and fire up maps, mine seemed to lock on quickly, I was stationary though.

well at least i know i finally can dump the nexus S for Hercules, for the extra space speed and SD card slot
i felt like i was jailed for a year on the nexus S
couldn't do much with the limited space

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How do you know that for sure....
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Well for one all the reports say it doesn't. Also google would probably want to keep it from having a sd card slot. Less vulnerable to exploits. Internal memory is also faster than sdcard slot.

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Well for one all the reports say it doesn't. Also google would probably want to keep it from having a sd card slot. Less vulnerable to exploits. Internal memory is also faster than sdcard slot.
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That basically kills it for me....wow now I don't have to wait

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That basically kills it for me....wow now I don't have to wait
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You should still wait for the prime if it has 64 internal gig memory. Then it will be a buy over this if its just 16 gigs no sd card slot like the nexus s. 16 gig space isn't enough with all the clockwork backups titanium backups. and miui back ups. You'll run out of space fast. I personally cant get a phone without a sd card slot because i watch a lot of movies and listen to a lot of music on my phone.

I got the Hercules this morning, was the 2nd one to get it at my local T-Mobile store. This phone is BEAST. Lightning quick and beautiful display. GPS locks quick.
Also purchased the Body Glove case, very nice case--has an Otterbox feel to it.
I paid full price ($529), didn't want 2 year contract because I dont want to be stuck with AT&T if the merger goes through. Felt it was worth paying extra to have freedom and AT&T would probably offer me a sweet deal to stay (i.e. Nexus Prime).
If you are coming from a Vibrant like I am, you will be very happy with the Hercules

Help me decide: Galaxy Note 2 vs Nexus 4

Hi all,
i currently am using a galaxy nexus and wish to upgrade my phone. I am debating between the Galaxy note 2 and the nexus 4.
I'm a fan of the pure google experience but am intrigued by the galaxy note 2's stylus functionality. I would appreciate if note 2 owners can share their experience of using the phone. Is the S pen functionality actually useful day to day? Or is it more of a cool "show off" feature?
thanks!

Doubt your going to get an unbiased answer in here.... :laugh:
That said, I wasn't even considering the Note 2 at one stage, but in the end because I couldn't get a Nexus 4, it made me think again about what I wanted...
I had a Nexus 7 and a Galaxy Nexus. I saw the Nexus 4 as just a very fast, more polished version of the Galaxy Nexus, otherwise the ownership experience was much the same IMHO. The Nexus 7 was superfluous and I didn't really use it to its potential. So I looked into the Note 2, as it addressed many things I didn't like about the Gnex, mainly, poor battery life, poor camera and lack of storage.
So I've got the Note 2.
No regrets. The camera appears to be better than the Nexus 4, battery life MUCH better (in fact, much better than any phone I've ever used before), and although the screen does not have 300+ PPI, its more "impressive" to look at. And it also fills in as a tablet.
Very happy with it. I do slightly miss Vanilla Android, but TBH you can still turn it into an object of desire with a little work.
As for the pen, for me, its a bit of a gimmick TBQH. Others may disagree.

netninja said:
Hi all,
i currently am using a galaxy nexus and wish to upgrade my phone. I am debating between the Galaxy note 2 and the nexus 4.
I'm a fan of the pure google experience but am intrigued by the galaxy note 2's stylus functionality. I would appreciate if note 2 owners can share their experience of using the phone. Is the S pen functionality actually useful day to day? Or is it more of a cool "show off" feature?
thanks!
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I can't speak for the rest, but I honestly bought the first note thinking that I'd NEVER use the SPen, but in reality it's REALLY useful.
When I am on a phone call, I whip out the pen and just start writing on the smemo pad that comes up... Numbers, words, dates, etc. Very handy.
It's also a very precise tool.
When it's cold outside, I can use the Spen instead of taking off my gloves. Saves me from frostbite LOL.
It's great for screen captures of a specific size, or even the whole page!
I also admit that I was thinking about buying the Nexus 4 in addition to my Note 2. But I thought to myself that Pure Google is great, but I'd miss A LOT of the added functionality that Samsung or any other company adds to their devices. Those little touches make the experience really nice. So does google! But the SPen, huge battery, expandable memory, added software, larger screen.... All are necessary for me now... I'm a Samsunger for the next year at least hehe.
I hope I've helped shed some light on my personal use and opinion.

zkyevolved said:
When I am on a phone call, I whip out the pen and just start writing on the smemo pad that comes up... Numbers, words, dates, etc. Very handy.
It's also a very precise tool.
When it's cold outside, I can use the Spen instead of taking off my gloves. Saves me from frostbite LOL.
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Never realise it did that, interesting, thanks.
As for getting cold in Spain, give over!

Thanks for the replies guys. They were all very good descriptions.
I gotta make a decision and it ain't an easy one!

The S-Pen is the reason I bought the Note 2 and i use it for more things than I first intended. I love all the retouching tools that are available on Android not to mention apps like SketchBookPro which are pretty useless without the S-Pen.
The pen is also, as another wrote, very accurate and very useful on Web pages like this to quickly change to italic or bold without having to zoom in!
One feature I really thought was a gimmick was the smart stay feature. But I assure you it isn't. It is one my favourites. In good light I now never have the screen sleep on me whilst reading. It however sleeps 15 seconds after I turn my head away.

Hey all,
Just wanted to say thanks for the advice! I got my Galaxy Note II in titanium today very pleased so far.

netninja said:
Hey all,
Just wanted to say thanks for the advice! I got my Galaxy Note II in titanium today very pleased so far.
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Good desicion, this is without doubt the best phone I have owned, so smooth. When I get my wife's s3 it feels slow and tiny compared.

i was making the same choice as well
nexus 4 advantages
-pure google experience
-cheap
-qualcomm s4 pro
-higher pixel density
galaxy note 2 advantages
-android 4.1 with touchwiz customisations which gives it a lot more software features out of the box compared to nexus 4
-a bit more expensive but i managed to order mine for $529AU, which isnt too much more compared to $399AU price of the nexus 4
-exynos 4412 might not be as quick as the s4 at 1080p, but at 720p theyre more or less on par
-although pixel density is lower, the screen real estate is much higher when you factor in that the on screen keyboard of the nexus 4 reduces the usable screen area to around 4.4-.4.5inches
-camera has a lot of useful features that i'd use
-a lot more choices in terms of cases available at the moment
-monster battery
-s pen (this wasnt really a selling point for me though since i barely used it in my note 1)
so after evaluating it (and seeing a massive price drop), i forked out the money. it also helped that the note 2 was available whereas the nexus 4 is still unavailable.

Ability with my N7105 to swap out the (massive capacity) battery and provision of a microsd slot wins it for me The 16GB max of the Nexus 4 is a deal breaker for me. No way I'll buy any device lacking a card slot. Why does Google do this? I can't see the non swappable 2100mAH battery lasting long on a quad core device either.

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Ability with my N7105 to swap out the (massive capacity) battery and provision of a microsd slot wins it for me The 16GB max of the Nexus 4 is a deal breaker for me. No way I'll buy any device lacking a card slot. Why does Google do this? I can't see the non swappable 2100mAH battery lasting long on a quad core device either.
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I agree, without µSD card, you can't take your music, vidéos and game with you. My internal memory is almost full, Gameloft game consume up to 1Go per game. Other games and apps use more and more spaces, around 50Mo per apps, and you have only 10Go left on the 16Gb model.
The main problem about the note is that you can't move game data to the external µSD without beeing root and using something like DirectoryBind.
And if you take many HD videos, 16Gb is ridiculous.

netninja said:
Hey all,
Just wanted to say thanks for the advice! I got my Galaxy Note II in titanium today very pleased so far.
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Enjoy mate I'm sure you will
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Galaxy Note 2. Nexus 4 is slow in comparison. Nothing special about it unless you like stock ROM from Google. No external memory slot. Absolute deal breaker for any phone for me.

I just traded away my 16gig n4 for the international Note 2 and wow is all i can say. This is the best phone ever, samsung really hit a home run with this thing.

Nickel Dime Bay said:
I just traded away my 16gig n4 for the international Note 2 and wow is all i can say. This is the best phone ever, samsung really hit a home run with this thing.
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Nice. I'm curious what made you decide to switch the N4 for the GNOTE 2?

netninja said:
Nice. I'm curious what made you decide to switch the N4 for the GNOTE 2?
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Bigger screen (N4 was super nice and clear)
Colors on the N4 were a bit washed out. That could also have been my eyes just like AMOLED screens better.
SD card slot
LTE (getting the ATT one soon)
And battery life is INSANE!
Those are some of MY reasons for switching. Loved the Nexus, that phone is so smooth!! But the Note 2 is just better in my eyes.
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I really wanted the Nexus 4, had two in the cart but was never able to purchase them on the release date. Really was bummed about that.
However, since I had time to wait for them to restock, I started looking a bit harder at other phones, and came across the GT-N7100 Note 2. What sealed it for me was:
Bigger screen
Huge battery capacity
Replaceable battery
Back isn't made of glass
SD card slot (64Gb on the way!)
S Pen sounded like a really neat idea
International version avoided carrier bloatware
International version has hotspot enabled
Since I've got it:
Screen really is nice
Battery life really is good
S-pen holds definite promise
Runs so, so smooth
Big phone is big
Can't move apps to SD card, (why god, why?!) but this can be fixed with root
Doesn't have a dedicated car dock like my Epic 4G did
Finding a 2A car charger is damn near impossible, but easy if you are good with a soldering iron to mod an existing one
Belt cases are hard to find (yeah, i kick it old school)
Completely happy with my purchase. Google did me a favor by running out of stock so fast.

netninja said:
Thanks for the replies guys. They were all very good descriptions.
I gotta make a decision and it ain't an easy one!
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I moved on from the Note1 powered by CM10/AOSKP based Roms, to the Note 2 and never doubted between it and the N4.
Could not even consider a phone without a sd slot, replaceable battery and smaller screen, even for that price and being pure Google.
Not to mention the Note 2 got an amazing sound, due the Wolfson DAC, and an amazing GPS/GLONASS performance.
And talking about amazing, what an amazing battery performance!
Actually, if you don't care about the fact that the Note is manufactured by Samsung, and don't care about the pure Google experience (Nexus devices) and prices, I don't even understand why you still have doubts.
Specially after all the answers you got here
Did you post this same question on the N4 forum?
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sleebus.jones said:
[*]Finding a 2A car charger is damn near impossible, but easy if you are good with a soldering iron to mod an existing one
[*]Belt cases are hard to find (yeah, i kick it old school)
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Completely happy with my purchase. Google did me a favor by running out of stock so fast.
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otterbox has a defender case with belt clip. some ebay cases have a belt clip too.
and as for the 2A charger, just go on the google play store and buy the 2A charger that they sell for the nexus 7. i've been using my nexus 7 2A charger to charge my note 2, charges quite rapidly.

I have the note 2....also getting the nexus 4...because its cheap...... will be useful to give it as a gift to my brother
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Should i return my droid turbo for a note 4?

I just got a droid turbo 64gb ballistic nylon ..I am coming from a galaxy s3 and i was trying to choose between the 2 and thought maybe the note 4 might be too big but after getting home etc im having a bit of buyers remorse.. naked android is fine and all but im not really going to use the moto voice functions and the camera is meh.. the bigger note is a little imposing but if i can handle 5.2 on the turbo fine i figure 5.7 is fine as well .. i almost never 1handed use (im 6ft big hands anyways) and after seeing some s pen demos and camera shot im close to returning my turbo for a note 4... i would love some pros and cons of the note 4 and any experiences you guys have owning your note 4 thanks in advance

I would. The note 4 is a nice phone and I really like. I'm coming from a mdk S4. I had the same question as you for size. The size is perfect.

thanks my wife has an s5 and we have a galaxy tab and i bought her a gear 2 neo smartwatch for xmas i should have stayed in the family

Remember that you are in a note 4 forum so there will be some bias. I love the note. Came from the note 2. I have 0 regrets and I love the s pen. It is a game changer. Camera is pretty good. It is a larger phone but to me not too big. Although I will say I hope they don't go any bigger. One handed operation is not an issue for anyone because of the 1 quick 1 handed operation feature. All you do is swipe back and forth from the sides and it shrinks the whole screen to that side. And you can also adjust that screen. Bigger or smaller. I attached a picture but not sure how if it shows it.
Biggest deal breakers are no SD card and no battery. I love my 128gb SD card and with 5.0 allowing apps to save data to the SD card again makes it even better.
I will say that if you like to root it is not looking good. I would not get this phone on hopes that it will get root and unlocked bootloader. But to honest, I don't miss it at all. This is coming from someone who has jail broken/rooted every single phone.
Just my 2¢. Good luck.
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furfmonkey said:
I just got a droid turbo 64gb ballistic nylon ..I am coming from a galaxy s3 and i was trying to choose between the 2 and thought maybe the note 4 might be too big but after getting home etc im having a bit of buyers remorse.. naked android is fine and all but im not really going to use the moto voice functions and the camera is meh.. the bigger note is a little imposing but if i can handle 5.2 on the turbo fine i figure 5.7 is fine as well .. i almost never 1handed use (im 6ft big hands anyways) and after seeing some s pen demos and camera shot im close to returning my turbo for a note 4... i would love some pros and cons of the note 4 and any experiences you guys have owning your note 4 thanks in advance
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Eventually note 4 is my choice, which great camera quality.

Android_Fr3ak said:
Remember that you are in a note 4 forum so there will be some bias. I love the note. Came from the note 2. I have 0 regrets and I love the s pen. It is a game changer. Camera is pretty good. It is a larger phone but to me not too big. Although I will say I hope they don't go any bigger. One handed operation is not an issue for anyone because of the 1 quick 1 handed operation feature. All you do is swipe back and forth from the sides and it shrinks the whole screen to that side. And you can also adjust that screen. Bigger or smaller. I attached a picture but not sure how if it shows it.
Biggest deal breakers are no SD card and no battery. I love my 128gb SD card and with 5.0 allowing apps to save data to the SD card again makes it even better.
I will say that if you like to root it is not looking good. I would not get this phone on hopes that it will get root and unlocked bootloader. But to honest, I don't miss it at all. This is coming from someone who has jail broken/rooted every single phone.
Just my 2¢. Good luck.
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this. i am rocking my note 4 with 160 gb of total space and 3 removable batteries. i am selling my nexus 6 which doesnt have sdcard or removable battery. dump the turbo man. even though note only has 16 mp camera i think the software is better therefore it takes better photos then the turbo. This is my perfect phone!

I came from the Droid Turbo Ballistic 64 gig and can say without a doubt the Note4 is a better device all around. The build quality is better, the screen is larger, extSD support and the camera is quicker. I'm 6ft with big hands too and prefer the larger phone. The Turbo is a nice phone but the lack of a extSD, removable battery and no reboot option from the power menu killed it for me. Both have no root for the retail but that isn't a issue for me, there are two other rooted S5's here in case I get bored. I had the Turbo for two weeks, the stock Android got really boring and the camera lag was horrible. Both cameras aren't the best with the stock app so I would suggest a 3rd party app like A Better Camera. I ended up purchasing the app but the free version was nearly just as good. To sum it up I'm happy with my decision to go back to Samsung and the Note4.

Ok guys i pulled the trigger.. I called Verizon and i got the last black note 4 they had in stock .. (at first she told me only white then hold on a few seconds and someone just cancelled their order) I don't even have to leave my home . The new note 4 is being mailed to me and i just have to put the turbo in the box and slap on a prepaid label and im all done and its only like $2 more a month .. thanks for the feedback and i look forward to sharing my stories with my note 4

Good choice
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You will love it

I like droid turbo and where Motorola is going with their devices but...they're just not quite there yet imo. Note 4 is just a better phone all around if you don't mind touchwiz

I too started with the turbo ballistic backing 64 gig version. I wanted to love that phone but turned out that the note 4 was just a better choice for me. The turbo IMO is a sweet looking phone more so than my note 4 but the wow factor didn't seem to match up with the hype I've heard people talking about . don't get me wrong it's a very nice phone but after getting used to the size of the note 3 it just seemed like the turbo was tiny which it isn't but just felt that way. I also didn't like the fact that you couldn't pull the battery and no SD slot. I liked the note 3 I had but I love the note 4 so far. It's fast has a beautiful screen and battery lasts longer than I thought it would. And another big plus with me is that all of my other phones use the same size sim as the note 4 so I can switch phone anytime I want. If I would have kept the turbo then i could only use that one phone with the sim that it took. If Verizon still had the 30 day period maybe I would have been able to really test out the turbo but only having 2 weeks I went ahead and returned it for the 4 which turns out was right f decision. Jesse
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IMHO if you are not a phone junky, not someone who actually uses your phone all day, or actually if your not a person who is into Android enough to read this website.... Then the Turbo is the better phone. Especially if you've been an iPhone person and this is your first Android.
BUUUUT, if you know a little, and actually understand what touch wiz is comparabley, the the Note 4 is miles ahead.
Ignorance is bliss

I just got the note 4 yday, had to exchange it cause mine was defective. While waiting, I played with the turbo and was impressed. I like the heavy duty feel it has. Makes it feel less fragile than the note and I'm really hating touchwiz right now. Really debating on taking the turbo.

had a note 2 and have a note 3. i *just* got a turbo thinking the extra battery and more accurate gps/compass (you note 3 owners know what i mean) would be more important but I already have buyer's remorse.
as much as people bag on touchwiz, the added features are something i find extremely useful. quick toggles, lockscreen shortcuts. all the settings tiles. these things are not there on the turbo and with no root it won't be happening any time soon.
i thought i could move on, and i can't. i'll be putting in for an exchange tomorrow.
and, fwiw, the compass/gps doesn't seem much better than the note 3 and the battery life is certainly not that of a phone with 3900mAh on tap. totally disappointed. its a great phone, but it i thought it would be better, and it's not.

[Q] Buy now or wait until S6 release?

Hey all, have been looking hard at the Note 4 as replacement for my aging 4S. Looking to get away from ios, wouldn't be my first android device nor my first samsung. I would be buying the phone full price, no contract, and was wondering if I should buy now or wait till the S6 release and see if there is a price drop?
Thanks
Coop

Check slickdeals.net they have deals for note 4
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Galaxy S6 release won't effect the price of the Galaxy Note 4...
Both are two different series in phone..
Now if you want Galaxy S6, it will b cheaper then Note 4
The price of the Galaxy S6 should b the retail price of the Galaxy S5 today... Note 4 stays the same...
3 months back I made the switch from iPhone 4S to Note 4 glad I did... all iPhones are the same
Note 4 has the removable battery and SD slot that the Galaxy S6 and iPhone don't have
In many ways the Galaxy S6 is a step back from Galaxy S5 I just like the look better and new figure print sensor but looks are not everything, it's features or what it includes also sells the phone... I won't b buying Galaxy S6 nor Note 5
Phones are personal preference, so goodluck! I can say I just recently read something about Best Buy having a good deal on Note 4 like $200 off retail price or something close but I didn't read to much into it, it may only have been for people who sign up on a contract...
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nemopsp said:
Phones are personal preference, so goodluck! I can say I just recently read something about Best Buy having a good deal on Note 4 like $200 off retail price or something close but I didn't read to much into it, it may only have been for people who sign up on a contract...
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Those Best Buy deals were for contract Note 4s.
I got my Note 4 a few weeks ago to replace an LG G3 my son decided to throw and destroy. I was going to wait for the S6...and I still think I'm going to get one...but the N4 is a fantastic phone and you can't go wrong with it if you like the size. I'm really happy w/ the Lollipop update except for the lock screen notifications (I wish it was like stock android still...doubt tap to open is a MUST) so I can definitely recommend it without reservation.
I just want the same camera (or better) in a smaller footprint. The camera is probably the most important aspect in a phone to me, so the S6 is really enticing since it's essentially the Note with a smaller form factor. Removeable battery and SD Card don't even move the needle for me, so that's not an issue.

dbdynsty25 said:
Those Best Buy deals were for contract Note 4s.
I got my Note 4 a few weeks ago to replace an LG G3 my son decided to throw and destroy. I was going to wait for the S6...and I still think I'm going to get one...but the N4 is a fantastic phone and you can't go wrong with it if you like the size. I'm really happy w/ the Lollipop update except for the lock screen notifications (I wish it was like stock android still...doubt tap to open is a MUST) so I can definitely recommend it without reservation.
I just want the same camera (or better) in a smaller footprint. The camera is probably the most important aspect in a phone to me, so the S6 is really enticing since it's essentially the Note with a smaller form factor. Removeable battery and SD Card don't even move the needle for me, so that's not an issue.
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I'm still on the 4.4.4 kitkat update... tho I do have the OTA of 5.0.1... but I don't like the notification pop up... so I'm staying where I am and 5.0.1 isn't much of a update rather wait for 5.1
But personally coming from a iPhone with out a removable battery and SD card really limits the phone.. space wise and battery
I guess depends on how much you update phones but personally, I update every 2 to 3 years an once the phone get to 1st year on a internal battery. It don't last as long and needs to b replaced. For this reaosn removable battery is nice just simply buy a new battery for like $12, all fixed... where on internal phone it's going to cost you $60 mayb more from a phone repair store... or if you do it your self it would b like $20 but a pain (talking from experience, just not simple)
SD card is nice just to add extra storage your right it don't move from my phone but it's having it what counts... Note 4 has 32gb plus 64gb sd card... no reason to need space but on 32gb my phone would b full... plus i bought 64gb card for $30
These are two reasons y I came to this phone and away from iPhones, my iPhone is still a great phone but needs a new battery so I put the money towards a new phone instead since I kno it will have same issue in time... plus memory was always a struggle phone always full, alot times went to take a pic just to see a pop saying not enough free space....
Plus the note 4 camera is great... It's very close to the one in Galaxy S6... not much difference...
As I said its all personal preference... it's what you want and how your going to use the phone...
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Is it worth the upgrade?

I have the s5 currently.
If the s6 worth it to upgrade. I do love the new look, and can live without sd card, and removable batt

short answer? yes.
long answer? yes yes.

ab30494 said:
I have the s5 currently.
If the s6 worth it to upgrade. I do love the new look, and can live without sd card, and removable batt
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Totally worth it. Camera department ois camera software is awesome. Fast phone. Battery is good on me so far. I prefer internal memory because im not limited to apps and games i install. I use spottify for music. 100 gb cloud storage microsoft one drive is cool. I store pics and vids manually. Very worth the upgrade....
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I have had the S6 for about a week and would say it is very much worth it. I have not had any issues with battery life. With the two biggest complaints I have heard being no removable battery and no sd card, since you are fine with both of those I would say the upgrade is well worth it.

YES!

Definately worth it for the camera alone. Screen is better, CpU is lightning fast, built much better. Yes, upgrade.
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I have the s5 currently.
If the s6 worth it to upgrade. I do love the new look, and can live without sd card, and removable batt
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It is absolutely worth it. I wasn't a Samsung phone fan until this phone came out. You can check out my blog explaining, in a nutshell, why this phone has turned me into a fan.
Long story short, the camera phenomenal, the hardware is stellar, the design is the best they've ever come out with, and they come with so much free apps/software...and it's stuff you can actually choose to disable or uninstall (for the most part). They've streamlined the UI to look much cleaner, too. The phone is awesome. Really worth a look in person.
I'm a Sprint Employee. My opinions are my own, and do not reflect an official statement from the company.

Is it worth it even after all the RAM issues? In all honesty, my Nexus 4 outperforms this thing. Kinda disappointing considering how well specked out this beast is.

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I don't experience the RAM delima myself. My device performs very well. I'd like to see the benchmarks you claim.
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I meant the Nexus 4 outperforms it in-terms of real world usage. Benchmarks do not dictate a good experience. Sure, the S6 may load apps faster, but my Nexus is much smoother. Also, the S6 will start to reload apps once you have more than 3 apps open in the background